launching All New Corolla Altis

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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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ni ni gw kasi fotonya
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bonus: generasi sebelomnya

Altis (generasi 9)
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all new AE112 (generasi 8)
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*jauh bgt antara generasi 8 ke 9 ya. hiks. makin tua aja ni mobil gw :(
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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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budi_gentle wrote:@satyr...

Gue cuma alergi aja klo liat mbl mahal tp masih pake Torsion-beam... :ungg:

Gue sih netral gak milih-milih mobil... mazda 3 tuh keren bgt... hatchback but Full independent :mrgreen:

Anyway.. keren sih ud pake HID, & tiptronic... but unfortunately still 4speed...
wah alergi. situ pake mobil apa emang? orang tajir nih kayanya pakenya kelas camry ke atas :ngacir:
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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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@yusaku

Klo mbl FWD, penggunaan Drum brake blkg & cakram dpn gak ngaruh banyak.... Kecuali klo mbl RWD, emang kudu semua cakram...???

Why...??

Gini... Pada mobil FWD saat mobil ngerem dari kecepatan sedang - tinggi... semua bobot mobil jd tertumpu di depan.. coba rasain klo ngerem mendadak... pasti badan serasa didorong kedepan bangeeetttt.... dan juga rem bekerja keras untuk nahan ganasnya tenaga mesin yg tersalur di roda depan... Jadi Rem dibelakang seperti tidak bekerja malah... Coba klo lg jalan tarik rem tangan sekuat-kuatnya.. yg ada malah nge-block, bukannya nge-rem....

Kecuali klo ngeremnya pas mobil mundur.. nah semua bobot tertumpu ke belakang deh... disinilah rem belakang tromol kewalahan...

Klo mbl RWD kudu pake cakram semua... knp???... karena rem diroda belakang tugasnya menahan ganasnya tenaga mesin yg tersalur di roda belakang... selain itu rem roda depan juga ikut menahan pergerakan mobil scr keseluruhan....

Gitu... boss...

buntut-buntutnya sih COST-SAVING juga :mrgreen: ...

ooooiiiii... bikin thread baru aja... bahas REM... suspensi udahlah... cukup... :mrgreen:
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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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@satyr...

Nggak koq... sumpeh gue biasa-biasa aja... :mrgreen:

Cuma gw prnh pny mbl yg ud pake Full-Independent & Torsion-beam.... :mrgreen: itu juga second hand... :mrgreen:... trus gue ganti deh shock-absorber-nya merk aftermarket ky KONI, dsb....

emang sih klo duduk didepan gak gitu ngaruh antara torsion-beam & Full-independent... tapi klo duduk belakang baru ngaruh bgt :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

BAck to topic... cape ngomongin suspensi mulu sob.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Anyway Camry worth-it bgt loh...!!!... Camry 2004 aja worth-it bgt.... Full-Independent lagi... Apalg klo shock-nya diganti ama merk aftermarket yg oke.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: maknyusss :mrgreen: :ngacir:
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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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Aplikasi Drum sepertinya krn lebih rendah costnya deh.
iya, corolla mulai altis yg pakai torsion beam, seiring berjalannya waktu, refinement2 produsen pd torsion-beam makin baik performanya walaupun tetap menghasilkan sensasi yg berbeda dgn independent apalagi double-wishbone.

Sorry oot.
Civic hatchback memakai torsion beam (unlike civic sedan yg doublewishbone), objectivenya adalah spacious. makanya ada magic-seat (kursi tall mode / spt kursi bioskop), versi Sedannya tidak bisa.
Namun interestingnya, handling performance civic hatchback ini sangat baik, apalagi yg hatch Type R, liat saja disandingkannya dgn apa saja & sering menang dlm handling, malah kemarin vs Impreza 2.5turbo AWD, masih menang hatch TypeR.
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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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Klo bicara handling... bukan mslh torsion-beam aja... tapi juga pengaruh dari kekerasan suspensi, sasis, respon setir, dsb...

Klo sasis jelek tp ud Full-Independent... sama aja bo'ong...

Tp klo sasis bagus banget... tp msh torsion-beam... bisa jadi lbh baik...

Sasis itu pny prioritas utama.... Apalg klo sasis bagus, trus full-independent & racikan keras/empuk suspensi bagus... TOP dah... coba aja BMW, dikelasnya mana ada yg bisa ngalahin handling-nya BMW...??


Anyway, handling & nyaman beda loh...


Woi back to topic... jauh amat... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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bener. handling ga semata2 masalah torsion beam

makanya.. pake torsion beam jg ga masalah kalo buat gw
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Kemarin Suzuki Neo Baleno
Sekarang Toyota New Altis
Besok Senin Honda Accord

Semua segmen sudah ada bintangnya... silahkan pilih...
Tapi kalau harus pakai bensin pertamax, bayar listrik mahal, bayar asuransi mobil mahal.... jangan pada ngeluh ya...... industri mobil khan memberi kebebasan konsumen untuk memilih sendiri... hehehee....
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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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Yoi...

Gue juga... Klo mbl masih sekitar 200jt-an sih gak mslh...

Buat gue, Klo ud sekitar >250jt.. torsion-beam.. itu rada masalah... :ngacir: :ngacir:

just my opinion :mrgreen:
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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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Mantep tuh New accord... katanya dashboard-nya pake PADDED-DASHBOARD...

nunggu second-hand aja :ngacir: :ngacir:
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padded dashboard , apa ya?
kalo sedan besar, pilih 2nd setelah tahun pertama aja, harganya terkoreksi jauh.
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311 jt gw sih pilih BMW 325i aja 2nd deh :D

kalo emang mau corolla.. tunggu facelift. mesin baru tuh 2ZR-FE

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@GTR

Padded dashboard itu.... konstruksi dashboard yg biasa dipakai pada mobil-mobil premium eropa / jepang spt; BMW, Lexus, Mercy, dsb....

Kebanyakan mbl jepang Rp. 100 ~ 400jt.. pake konstruksi NON-PADDED dashboard.....
Penasaran?? coba iseng-iseng pukul dashboardnya Civic, CR-V, Camry, X-Trail, dll... pasti rada kopong... nah itu non-padded dashboard....

Bandingin ama dashboardnya (padded) mbl-mbl menengah atas eropa....

PADDED DASHBOARD gak akan menimbulkan bunyi-bunyi (krit-krit, duk-duk, trrrr-trrrr, dsb...) seperti dashboard NON-PADDED

Nah KONON.... New Accord 2008 udah pake PADDED DASHBOARD.... Jarang bgt mobil jepang kelas segment ACCORD pake PADDED DASHBOARD.... tapi gue juga penasaran sih bener apa nggaknya?? kita liat aja nanti....:ngacir:

Anyway... altis masih pake konstruksi dashboard which is not better than Innova's dashboard....

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Re: launching All New Corolla Altis

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ga jarang koq bang..accord dari dulu emg padded koq..mksdnya bahan lembut kan?
kalo sekelas dibwh nya mcam civic cr-v gitu yg memang kosong X..last time I checked..captiva jg lembut tuh..walo cuman sebagian...
kalo ga salah altis tuh padded jg kan?
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gimana bedainnya sih? awam nih @_@
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satyr wrote:gimana bedainnya sih? awam nih @_@
itu loh plastik lembek....tapi tadi gw liat all new altis launching dasbor bagian atasnya udah pke plastik lembek loh... :e-dance:
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ntar deh kalo liat lagi gw pencet2..

tp kalo plastik lembek sih all new gw jg udah gitu

twincam gw jg..

ato gmn ya? pusing ah gw.. wakkaka
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jaman dulu sih semua juga pakai padded-dashboard... tapi kemudian ada masalah yaitu menjadi pecah-2 kalau kena panas dari kaca depan. kemudian muncul airbag... yang harus memberi jalan untuk meledak. jadi memang lebih simple kalau pakai yang cetakan.... oleh sebab itu yang produksinya buanyak sekali.. lebih gampang pakai cetakan.
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auk deh gelap soal ginian gw
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Berhubung launching corolla altis dah lewat. Silahkan melanjutkan diskusi test drive, suspensi, review dsb di http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... &sk=t&sd=a

Supaya tidak terjadi double topic, maka topic ini saya lock.

Terima Kasih :beer: