how to start engine, mobil injeksi jaman now vs jaman 90an?

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ini teori sotoy saya kenapa saya nunggu sebentar sebelum start.,
saat kontak On fuel pump bekerja agar bensin naik & siap untuk diinjeksikan, ECU juga mungkin membaca sensor2.
Nah starter mobil itu membutuhkan daya listrik yang sangat besar dan bisa mempengaruhi kinerja alat yang lain, contoh gampang saat starter mobil dinyalakan maka lampu kabin akan meredup. Kalau dari kontak on langsung start, maka dinamo starter akan bekerja bersamaan dengan fuel pump (dan mungkin perangkat ECU?) sehingga putaran fuelpump (dan kelibrasi ECU?) jadi tidak maksimal. sehingga waktu start akan memerlukan waktu sedikit lebih lama apalagi kalau kondisi aki kurang sehat.

soal nunggu dulu sebelum start sebenernya juga kejadian di sepeda motor injeksi, saat beli vario baru kemarin saya jg dikasihtau dari pihak dealer kalau sebelum starter nunggu dulu sampai jarum speedo bergerak dan balik ke posisi awal (bebarengan sama suara desing fuel pump).
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qushay20019 wrote:
classicrock wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 22:47 Kalo dulu pas pake diesel konvensional selalu wajib nunggu glow plug agak lama sebelum start (sambil nahan kunci di posisi G), apalagi pagi hari. Sekarang pas pake mesin bensin, ya selalu kontak ON, tunggu lampu lampu pada mati baru start. Mungkin karena kebiasaan. Hehe.
sama nih, ane bantu rawat Trooper diesel '86 4x4 punya mertua. Katanya kalo mau dinyalain, kunci kontak ke on tahan dulu sampe lampu koil yg warna kuning mati, baru distart
Hehehe wajib itu om. Diesel konvensional lawas butuh waktu lebih lama untuk proses pemanasan awal. Beda sama diesel modern, glow plug nya singkat saja bekerjanya, berbarengan dengan saat kunci kontak ON, maka itu kesannya kalo diesel modern bisa langsung start.
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duduk lansung puter or pencet tombol, setuju sama yang bilang start stop button buat keren2an dong, kalo start stop button nya di kiri setir kaya gk5, punya bocah piyik suka main pencet2 aja kalo lagi di jalan - -"
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biasa abis tancepin kunci lgsg nyalain di miras. udah 5 taun ga kenapa2 tuh. di mobil sebelumnya juga begitu. baik2 aja
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qushay20019 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:20
classicrock wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 22:47 Kalo dulu pas pake diesel konvensional selalu wajib nunggu glow plug agak lama sebelum start (sambil nahan kunci di posisi G), apalagi pagi hari. Sekarang pas pake mesin bensin, ya selalu kontak ON, tunggu lampu lampu pada mati baru start. Mungkin karena kebiasaan. Hehe.
sama nih, ane bantu rawat Trooper diesel '86 4x4 punya mertua. Katanya kalo mau dinyalain, kunci kontak ke on tahan dulu sampe lampu koil yg warna kuning mati, baru distart
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Dulu 4 thn selalu langsung start gak pernah ada masalah. Tapi gak tau efek kalo lebih dr 4 thn. Pakai mobil baru sampe sekarang masih ikutin kebiasaan lama
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kalau pengalaman dan perasaan pribadi,, pengaruhnya ke aki. (bukan ke nini..)
praktek in tunggu engine start mati dll, baru cegreng,,, alhamdulillah 4 tahun baru ganti si aki.
kmr2 coba langsung cegreng, aki langsung bengekk.
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riisesky wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:19 duduk lansung puter or pencet tombol, setuju sama yang bilang start stop button buat keren2an dong, kalo start stop button nya di kiri setir kaya gk5, punya bocah piyik suka main pencet2 aja kalo lagi di jalan - -"
Kalo gk salah start stop button pas lagi jalan di pencet bakal nothing happen. Tapi tetep aja, jangan coba ini pas lagi ngebut, tiap mobil bisa beda" reaksinya :ngacir:
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ya kalau dikasih jeda dikit saja sebelum start engine, kasih kesempatan buat ECU "mikir" dulu, soal fuel pump si mestiny ga pengaruh banyak, apalagia di mobil zaman now yang udah closed loop. juga katanya biar itu kapasitor di starter motor keisi dulu oleh aki, jadi kerja aki enteng.
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Putar kunci on, sambil nunggu bunyi tek tek selesai, kocok pedal gas... Baru starter.

Kalau muncul bunyi seperti kuda meringkik, ulangi prosedur diatas dari off...

3x tidak menyala, masukkan gigi 2, kopling tetap diinjak.. Terus teriak... Ya, doroooong.
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eridek wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:55 Putar kunci on, sambil nunggu bunyi tek tek selesai, kocok pedal gas... Baru starter.

Kalau muncul bunyi seperti kuda meringkik, ulangi prosedur diatas dari off...

3x tidak menyala, masukkan gigi 2, kopling tetap diinjak.. Terus teriak... Ya, doroooong.
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kalau dorong, start dari gigi 1, kasihan yang dorong, begitu lepas kopling, bisa keseleo tangannya...

sedangkan jika mulai dari gigi 3, kasihan juga yang dorong, terlalu jauh dorongnya...apalagi kalau mobilnya, 2 ton...phanter.....
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Oh oke oke om
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quyquy wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2018 15:43 Jaman era2 mobil injeksi thn 90an saya msh inget betul, sewaktu akan start engine kita di himbau utk kalibrasi dulu. Jd kunci kita putar on, lalu menunggu indikator cek engine dari menyala sampai mati, baru kunci kita putar ke start.

Selain dari lampu cek engine, biasanya disuruh menunggu sekitar 5 detikan baru start engine.

Nah kalo untuk mobil2 jaman skr gimana ya?

Apakah bagus lgs start engine tnp menunggu kalibrasi dulu?

Skr saya pake outlander sport keyless.
Kalo pake keyless tombol start stop engine: tekan tombol start (tnp injek rem) 2x (dng jeda tekan tombol skitar 1-2 detikan) sampai muncul lampu2 indikator, lalu tunggu 5 detikan, lalu injek rem dan tekan tombol start lg dan mesin menyala.
Klo saya lebih sering pakai metode sama kayak TS, kadang jg mikir ini starter mobil apa starter lokomotif diesel sih :mky_01: urutannya panjang bener..
Tp kadang jg injek rem lsg pencet tombol start ya nyala aja normal
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saya biasanya nunggu indikator airbag mati baru start
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Rundeer wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 14:14
riisesky wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:19 duduk lansung puter or pencet tombol, setuju sama yang bilang start stop button buat keren2an dong, kalo start stop button nya di kiri setir kaya gk5, punya bocah piyik suka main pencet2 aja kalo lagi di jalan - -"
Kalo gk salah start stop button pas lagi jalan di pencet bakal nothing happen. Tapi tetep aja, jangan coba ini pas lagi ngebut, tiap mobil bisa beda" reaksinya :ngacir:
yep kalo lagi bergerak ga ngaruh, tapi kalo lagi lampu merah meleng dikit dipencet mati juga :big_cry:
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Buka pintu >masuk duduk > injem rem > pencet tombol.
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injek rem - tekan tombol. udah hampir 3th gitu, normal2 aja
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