Troubleshooting Mazda 323 Trendynamic(need help)

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Re: Tentang relay starter

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poeticmind wrote:koh sjamsul... mana dia?! tolong bangunin, mar... :upss:

@erpurpone : maksudnya ditipu gimana? disuruh beli apa aja? :e-think:
salah satu malpraktek didunia bengkel, ane disuruh beli carb cleaner,ganti tutup radiator,ganti slang filter,ganti idle up,ganti busi,ganti kabel busi + kabel koil,ganti slang radiator yg katanya udah rusak,beli red silent,OMG....nyesel juga dibawa ke bengkel,kenapa gak disuruh sekalian ganti mobil aja...huuufffffhhh
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Re: Tentang relay starter

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m4rio wrote:gini, ane jelasin dikit ya.

gunanya relay starter itu, supaya komponen yang akan kita pasangin relay itu dapat dialiri arus langsung dari aki, jadi selain tidak membebani saklar atau switch komponen tersebut, juga mempersingkat jalannya arus menuju komponen yang akan kita pasangin relay.

contoh :
Lampu head lamp

switch lampu head lamp bisa berakibat atau beresiko tingi untuk terbakar / gosong kalau bohlam lampu yang kita pakai itu melebihi ukuran standard. nah kalau kita menggunakan Relay maka arus yang melewati switch akan sama, karena arus dari switch hanya mengaktifkan switch yang ada di dalam relay, nah sedangakn sumber arusnya biasa diambil langsung dari aki, nah kalau sudah begini kan tentu switcg akan aman.
mungkin yang dimaksud bro badak bener,coz ane gak tau juga yg dimaksud relay starter yg kayak gimana,yg jelas katanya kalo dipasang relay itu biar klo pas distarter agak enteng gak membebani kerja aki,tp itu katanya lho,coz ane jg gak tau....kalo bisa ditampilkan skemanya dong...
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Re: Tentang relay starter

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BADAK wrote:
m4rio wrote:gini, ane jelasin dikit ya.

gunanya relay starter itu, supaya komponen yang akan kita pasangin relay itu dapat dialiri arus langsung dari aki, jadi selain tidak membebani saklar atau switch komponen tersebut, juga mempersingkat jalannya arus menuju komponen yang akan kita pasangin relay.

contoh :
Lampu head lamp

switch lampu head lamp bisa berakibat atau beresiko tingi untuk terbakar / gosong kalau bohlam lampu yang kita pakai itu melebihi ukuran standard. nah kalau kita menggunakan Relay maka arus yang melewati switch akan sama, karena arus dari switch hanya mengaktifkan switch yang ada di dalam relay, nah sedangakn sumber arusnya biasa diambil langsung dari aki, nah kalau sudah begini kan tentu switcg akan aman.
M4r, kyk nya relay starter yg dimaksud bukan relay item kotak yg biasa dipake di lampu2 :e-think:
Setauku relay starter adalah bendix starter yg letaknya di dalam dinamo starter, bentuknya kyk solenoid bergigi. Karena fungsinya yg mirip relay, maka ada yg nyebutin sbg relay starter CMIIW.
@om peot: koh sjam udah mengundurkan diri dr dunia persilatan :upss:
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Re: Tentang relay starter

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Pertama perlu dikoreksi dl kl saya bkn master, tp cmn nubie aja :D
Begini bro, kl diliihat dr beberapa parts yg diganti menurut saya itu mmg tidak semuanya berkaitan dgn keluhan bro erpurpone. Krn kaitan antara tutup radiator (cooling system), selang filter udara (intake & exhaust system), carb cleaner (fuel system) berbeda dgn penggantian macam relay & kabel busi (electrical). Mungkin bengkel tsb hny melihat bahwa parts2 tsb memang hrs diganti, jd sekalian menyarankan diganti.
Sedangkan kl relay starter yg dimaksud adalah untuk mempermudah starter, bisa jd relay tsb sesuai yg dijelaskan oleh m4rio. Karena fungsi bendix starter yg lebih utama adalah untuk starter itu sendiri. Dengan kata lain kl bdndix starter rusak, susah untuk melakukan starter.
Mungkin bro erupone bisa melihat dr harganya, kl relay sekitar 10-20rb, bisa dipastikan itu yg dijelaskan bro m4rio. Karena hrg bendix starter ckp mahal. CMIIW.
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Re: Tentang relay starter

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relay stater tu motor stater bukan dak?????
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Re: Tentang relay starter

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Lain, motor starter itu switch starter. Bentuknya kyk tabung kcl, posisinya nempel ama dinano starter.
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bedanya motor sama relay apa dong???
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ak4ng wrote:bedanya motor sama relay apa dong???
ayam sama telor duluan mana? :big_smoking:
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BADAK wrote:
ak4ng wrote:bedanya motor sama relay apa dong???
ayam sama telor duluan mana? :big_smoking:
sy makan duluan dua2nya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ak4ng wrote:
BADAK wrote:
ak4ng wrote:bedanya motor sama relay apa dong???
ayam sama telor duluan mana? :big_smoking:
sy makan duluan dua2nya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pisang ama telor pilih mana? :big_smoking: :big_slap:
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No junk plizzzzz!! :big_smoking:
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apa itu junk?? yg sy tau cuma junkyard tempat badak nyeruduk rongsokan... :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
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Harap perhatian buat bung hansen, jangan kebanyakan ngejunk.


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BADAK wrote:No junk plizzzzz!! :big_smoking:
junk tu apa dak????? kl dlm bhs sunda artinya''silahkan',,, tanya om peot,,,
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Re: Tentang relay starter

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ada kok Relay Starter. kalo yang dimaksud badak itu lain lagi.
jadi di sini ane bagi 2 nih. Dinamo starter dengan Relay. dan ini dua hal, barang, jenis yang berbeda.

mobil ane aja dipakein kok relay sterter. jadi prinsipnya ya sama dak kyk tambahin relay buat head lamp.
beneran dah ADA relay buat starter. yang bentuknya ya itemkotak, ada 4 kaki. ASLI dah ADA.
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m4rio wrote:ada kok Relay Starter. kalo yang dimaksud badak itu lain lagi.
jadi di sini ane bagi 2 nih. Dinamo starter dengan Relay. dan ini dua hal, barang, jenis yang berbeda.

mobil ane aja dipakein kok relay sterter. jadi prinsipnya ya sama dak kyk tambahin relay buat head lamp.
beneran dah ADA relay buat starter. yang bentuknya ya itemkotak, ada 4 kaki. ASLI dah ADA.
nah....kalo ada tolong dishare dong skema pemasangannya please.....coz ane gaptek mesin mobil
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kalo ini ane musti cari dulu nih rangkaiannya. dulu ane pernah punya nih rangkaiannya.
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m4rio wrote:kalo ini ane musti cari dulu nih rangkaiannya. dulu ane pernah punya nih rangkaiannya.
i always waiting deh :off_sleep:
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atau kalau gk ente ke bengkel2 aja coba cari relay set starter. ada kok yang jual, dulu juga ane pernah masang buat mobil Box bokap ane, beli di bengkel langsung di pasang di bengkel juga.
jadi ente gk pusing cari petunjuknya. dan gk usah tunggu lama2.
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[ASK] RPM ngaco

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mazda trendy ane kalo pertama kali dinyalain mesinnya indikator RPM nya musti ngaco,ntar kalo udah dibawa keliling +- 15 menitan RPM kembali normal,napa ya rpm nya kok mabuk,thanks pencerahannya
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Re: [ASK] RPM ngaco

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mazda trendynamic speedo display digital yaa...??

sepengalaman saya pembacaan rpm di displaynya bs ngaco kalo ada kebocoran listrik di kabel2 busi dan kabel koilnya, selain itu kondisi terminal2 di koil dan ditributornya juga mesti dibersihkan dan dikasi isolasi yg bagus. Saran saya coba ganti kabel busi + coilnya 1 set, kalo bisa pilih yg bagusan supaya awet.

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jalu wrote:mazda trendynamic speedo display digital yaa...??

sepengalaman saya pembacaan rpm di displaynya bs ngaco kalo ada kebocoran listrik di kabel2 busi dan kabel koilnya, selain itu kondisi terminal2 di koil dan ditributornya juga mesti dibersihkan dan dikasi isolasi yg bagus. Saran saya coba ganti kabel busi + coilnya 1 set, kalo bisa pilih yg bagusan supaya awet.

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iya deh ntar dicobain,tp anehnya sprti yg ane katakan diatas klo udah dipake +- 15 menitan rpm tuh udah gak mabuk lagi om
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[ASK] cari kabel plus starter

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Gimana sih om cara yg sederhana nyari kabel plus (+) nya dari starter,ane udah nyari dgn nyolok2in tespen dc(anak ane bagian nyalain starter)gak ketemu juga,ngumpet dimana loe.....!?!?!? tolong dong om kasih tau caranya,kira2 kabel mana tuh starter.... :thanks:
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Re: [ASK] cari kabel plus starter

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bukan nya waktu itu oom purpone udah bikin tret mengenai ini yah??
dan klo ga salah mesin nya uda berhasil nyala khan oom? mank knapa lagi oom? :e-think:
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