Toyota Yaris

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Oh ya nih, HUnya yaris ini built in ya? kalo iya, ga bisa diganti2 donk. Padahal pingin ganti audio juga nih. Ato, emang standarnya udah cukup bagus kali ya?


Untuk yaris versi indo kursi depan seperti ini ato ga ?


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Naruto wrote:Mau tanya nih, gw juga minat ama yaris.
Tapi mau tanya2 pendapat dulu rekan2 disini.
1. Mesinnya kan mesinnya vios, standarnya kenceng ga? at least, kenceng mana ama 1.5 nya aerio dan jazz vtec ( sama2 matic, or sama2 manual)?
2. Pake bodykit type RS, nambah duit lagy, ato termasuk di type S limited edition? Kalo iings itu bodykit type S juga ato optional ? bingung nih. Banyak banget liat optionalnya.
3. Mendingan matic ato manual ya? maklum, ga pernah pake matic nih. Performa matic dan manual terpaut jauh ga? kira2 0-100kmh terpaut berapa detik ? ( ambil contoh aja, barangkali ada yang tau dari vios, spt mr datsu. CMIIW) . Dari dulu soalnya gw pake manual mulu. Penggunaan : sering2 di kota Surabaya yang notabene macet dan bolongannya gede2, sampe aerionya sekarang bobrok neh,, T_T :( , tapi 1 minggu sekali ke luar kota. +- 100 km dari surabaya.
4. Dengan budget 160 jtan. Kira, mending ambil yaris ini ato mobil bekas lain dengan harga serupa ya? (contoh : 318i 2001 kalo ga salah harganya udah 150 jt ya? CMIIW).
5. Mau tanya juga, seperti Mr. Obs yang udah liat unitnya, head unit standardnya bagus ga? type E dah ada CD player?
6. Mendingan ambil E ATO S ya ? Accessoris type S sebanding dengan harganya ga? kalo ga mendingan type E kali ya?
7. Gw minat warna merah nih. Bagus ga warna merahnya ? merah terang seperti ferrari ato BMW gitukah ?
8. Oh ya, kalo di luar kota ato ditol , untuk ukuran mobil mini gini, oleng ga ya? gimana kalo jazz ? takut oleng nih kalo salip2 bus. Soalnya biasa pegang juga aerio (kalo mobil kecil). Mantep nih mobil. Buat salip2 luar kota ga ada masalah.

Kalo menurut pendapat gw sendiri mobilnya dah keren 'n cakep nih, dimodif juga gampang. Tapi sayang, panel instrument di tengah gitu. T_T.
Websitenya yaris indo jelek banget neh... ga friendly user banget. misalnya di spesifikasi, bisa reset2 sendiri gitu. Rese banget deh. Liat teliti2 , tau2 reset ... T_T

Thanks ya, any comments and suggestions welcomed !! :D :D
1. kalau mengenai mesin, cukup kenceng bro, setara lah ama jazz vtec, plus minus untuk mesin gak beda jauh
2. bodykit yang RS tentu saja nambah lagi, kalau yang ings aftermarket tuh.
3. kalau suka nya kenceng, manual lebih berasa bro, cuma matic nya yaris cukup modern koq, super ECT, mirip ama GLC nya honda yang di CRV atau Stream 2.0 atau Accord
4. tergantung kebutuhan
5.head unit integrated, udah ada CD koq
6. tergantng juga, kalau type S banyak gimmick nya, prestise doank lah. kalau gue pilih E aja, sisanya kita bisa pasang aksesories yang memang bener dibutuhkan
7. selera bro
8. kalau Yaris belum tahu, yang jelas bobot lebih enteng dari pada jazz, kalau jazz selain lebih berat dikit, cd nya juga cukup rendah, mild shake sewaktu di ovrtake atau papasan ama mobil gede ada, cuma perasaan kalau jazz malahan gak segede civic ferio, ini pengalaman saya.

mengenai kursi untuk handicapted. itu cuma buat JDM aja, disini udah pasti gak disertakan, even yang built up dari IU
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mr. naruto..

Perbedaan antara mesin 1NZ-FE VVT-i Vios/Yaris/Ist dengan M15 VVT Aerio/Baleno Next-G dan dengan City/Jazz VTEC gak terlalu beda jauh..saya udah pernah pake Aerio dan masih pake Vios dan pernah nyetir Jazz temen...

Kalo beda manual matic biasanya bisa beda ampe 1-2 detik..tapi kurang tau juga untuk mesin 1NZ-FE..gak pernah nyoba yang matik...

Bung piterr, CD nya jazz emang berapa? Yang jelas CD-nya Yaris dan Vios dan Alitis dan Camry itu sama-sama 0,3...jadi handling yaris akan mirip dengan vios, yang bikin beda adalah masalahnya dengan angin samping karena berat yaris yang ringan dan tingginya yang lebih tinggi dari sedan..

Kalau menurut mr Naruto perbedaan yang cuman 1-2 detik ngaruh, berarti yaris manual adalah pilihan terbaik...bahkan dibanding jazz VTEC sekalipun... mesin 1 NZ-FE itu mesin kelas 1500cc terbaik milik toyota...hanpir gak ada masalah...tapi saya gak tau juga kalo mesin VTEC 1500cc dipasang di "sedan beneran" bakal bagus apa gak...kalo selama ini saya udah sering banget "say goodbye" ke City VTEC di cipularang...

Tapi nanti jangan bandingin Yaris dengan Aerio...Yaris gak akan sestabil Aerio walaupun CD nya lebih kecil...soalnya ukuran bodi yaris ataupun jazz gak proporsional buat ngebut2..

cuman ada satu yang penting...kalo mau performanya optimal pake pertamax plus...
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Ada beberapa pertanyaan Mr. Naruto terjawab dalam review ini (yang dibold):

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle ... A9783.html


2007 Toyota Yaris
Surprisingly charming at the bottom rung.
by Conor Twomey (2005-12-23)

When Toyota launched the first Yaris in Europe in 1999 it completely redefined what Europeans call the "supermini." It was short and upright, yet cleverly designed and oddly cool - a deserving European Car of the Year (as its 1.2 million owners can attest to) and the template for just about every new supermini since. Its replacement has just hit forecourts across Europe and by February, it will be in your local Toyota dealership too. The chic little Yaris is coming to America , erasing all memories of the grim Echo and even making its Scion xA sibling look a little dowdy in the process.

Two body styles are offered in the U.S. , a four-door sedan and three-door hatch, and they couldn't be any more different in character. The hatchback uses every design trick in the book to disguise its tall, short shape. Its broad shoulders, arched beltline and heavily creased metalwork all help to visually compress the Yaris, while sophisticated surface treatment and unusually proportioned headlamps are employed to make its stubby snout cute and appealing.

Overall, it's taut and brilliantly executed, no doubt slaved over for months in Toyota 's European studio, unlike the Japanese-designed sedan, which is rather dour and featureless by comparison.


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The sedan and hatch are also surprisingly different inside. The hatchback uses the European interior, with its stylish door trims and multiple storage compartments, including the dash-top storage bins and the two deep pockets on either side of the stacked HVAC controls.

Sadly, the cool 3-D digital instruments of the European Yaris get swapped for a meager speedometer and LED fuel gauge in U.S. models, although its trademark rear seats are offered here. The rear seats can be slid forward and backward to generate either as much rear legroom or as much trunk space as the nineteen-inch longer sedan, depending on your needs. Indeed, the rear seats of the hatchback feel more spacious than those of the sedan, thank to its three inches of extra height and the fact that the seatbacks tilt.

The sedan uses a slightly different dashboard that doesn't have as many handy compartments but does get a center armrest/storage box to compensate. The sedan is also fitted with a tilting driver's seat, which really helps offset the lack of steering reach adjustment, while manual sedans also get a tachometer - a vital tool for getting the most out of the car's modest engine. The surprisingly spacious rear uses a standard bench seat, complete with center armrest, cupholders and a split/fold operation on some versions. The quality of construction is beyond reproach, even in our pre-production test cars, but the plastics themselves are of the hard, easily scratched variety and none of the storage compartments were lined so loose objects can rattle rather annoyingly.

Only one engine is offered, a 1.5-liter four-cylinder engine that's bolted to a five-speed manual or an optional four-speed automatic. With 106 hp and 103 lb-ft of torque, the manual hatchback should be able to reach 60 mph in the mid-nine seconds range, with the four-speed automatic taking around a second longer, though the larger sedan won't suffer performance-wise because it weighs exactly the same as the 2293-lb hatch and has the same drag coefficient too. Unsurprisingly, gas mileage for both models is identical also, managing 34 and 40 (city/highway) EPA mpg, or 34 and 39 mpg for automatic models.


The gas-mileage reality might be somewhat different, though. The Yaris feels peppy at first but once out on the highway the lack of power is very noticeable so you will spend a lot of time with your right foot buried in the carpet. Once up to speed, it settles into a quiet, composed cruise, although automatic models tend to overcompensate for having only four gears and are too keen to change down to kick down, even under light acceleration.


Heritage handling

Find a windy road somewhere, though, and the Yaris' European heritage becomes evident. Despite its basic MacPherson front and sway-bar-free, torsion beam rear suspension, the front-wheel-drive Yaris is nonetheless a fine handling little car. The steering is just about quick enough to make the Yaris feel nimble, while also offering reasonable weight and decent feedback, all of which allows you to throw the Yaris around with unexpected vigor and confidence. When it does run out of grip, it happens very progressively and is easily corrected with a lift of the gas pedal and because you're constantly thrashing it to within an inch of its life, the Yaris driving experience is surprisingly exhilarating and amusing. Yeah, the brakes did start to show signs of fade after a while, and yes, the gearchange is a little rubbery, but compared to the dynamics of its rivals, the Yaris is almost like a pint-sized Porsche.

Which leaves only the yet-to-be-released price to discuss. I reckon the base hatch will be priced at around $12,000, which buys you a manual gearbox, air conditioning, 14-inch steel wheels, power steering and little else. Most buyers will spend a couple of hundred bucks more on the Convenience Package, which includes 15-inch steel wheels, a rear wiper and defroster and a CD stereo with an MP3 input jack, and an extra grand or so on the Power Package which offers power windows, locks and mirrors, ABS and those clever rear seats. Sadly, a tachometer, cruise control, a tilt-adjustable driver's seat and an engine immobilizer are not offered on the hatchback. The sedan's Convenience Package offers a split rear seat instead of a rear wiper and the Power Pack throws in cruise control as well as a tachometer on automatic models. Side and curtain airbags, alloy wheels, spoilers and fog lamps are stand-alone options on both models and there's also a Sedan S model, which has the Convenience Package, alloys and a body kit as standard.

Toyota has had to de-content the Yaris to make it price-competitive with other subcompacts but because the car is expensively engineered to compete in Europe, they've had to strip it to the bare bones to get there. Still, that's the way I'd rather have it. The Yaris might be sparse but it's robust, cute looking and surprisingly pleasant to drive, while also being utterly painless to own. In fact, I think Toyota should bring more of its European products here because despite being the most utilitarian car in Toyota 's lineup, the Yaris is more charming and fun than just about any other car they make.
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I want to make an observation I made abt this Yaris while I examine her in Toyota showroom.

Maybe some people may NOT notice it. Its not serious, BUT under certain conditions, could agak ganggu.

Nah ! For those who pakai Yaris mayoritas sendiri, atau sering 2 orang doang, ngak usah baca post saya ini. No problem ! Enjoy the Yaris !

What is my observation ? Well, first, I am abt 171 cm tall. Jadi sedang. Ngak tinggi tapi ngak pendek. Typical Indonesian height.

Nah ! Yaris baris depan si OK. No problems. Legroom baris 1 dan 2 juga ngak masalah. Cukup untuk mobil city car.

Then what is the problem ? Well, what I found out was, saat saya duduk di baris 2, posisi biasa sebelah kiri, maupun kanan, dan saat saya stel kursinya ke posisi paling landai, paling relax dan santai, kepala saya ternyata mentok ama car ceilingnya.

Bukan cuman mentok 1 mm doang. Sekitar 5 mm lebih ! Artinya berasa kepala agak kejepit ke plafon mobil !

Kalau duduk di tengah baris 2 si OK. Tapi orang biasa kan duduk di kiri atau kanan.

So what this means is, jika yang mau beli Yaris akan pakai sendiri atau jarang sekali carry 4 orang dewasa yang tingginya ngak lebih dari 171 cm, Yaris is OK.

TAPI, kalau rencana agak SERING nganggkut 4 dewasa, dan tingginya 171 cm or lebih, then U got to understand, and accept this design consequence of the Yaris rounded rear pillar C section. Kepala mentok. Kalau jarak jauh bisa ganggu kenyamanan.

In my humble opinion, kalau sering carry 4 adults, then I think the Yaris may not be the most suitable car. The Yaris is best for 1 or 2, only occasionally 4 adults, for city cruising.

Saya lupa apakah Jazz ada kepala mentok di baris 2, tapi se inggat saya, tidak.

Just FYI. NO Offence whatever intended. Like I said, apa gunanya saya dan forum ini kalau hal hal seperti gini tidak saya laporkan ?

Kalau semua orang pikiran dan observasinya sama, apagunanya forum ini ?

AS they say " Know before U buy " !

Mungkin kalau duduknya geser ke tengah dikit, ngak masalah, tapi saya kan kalau coba mobil, ngak mungkin sengaja duduk pepet ke kiri atau kanan. Saya duduk as naturally as usual. And trust me, kepala saya mentok. Dan bukan gara gara rambut saya panjang atau tebal.

I know some people may accuse me of what again. Tapi I am just trying to alert Yaris buyers yang takutnya sering carry anggota keluarga yang tinggi, dan takutnya ganggu nanti. Itu saja.
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datsu wrote: Bung piterr, CD nya jazz emang berapa? Yang jelas CD-nya Yaris dan Vios dan Alitis dan Camry itu sama-sama 0,3...jadi handling yaris akan mirip dengan vios, yang bikin beda adalah masalahnya dengan angin samping karena berat yaris yang ringan dan tingginya yang lebih tinggi dari sedan..
yupe, that's why i said: untuk yaris saya belum tahu. CD nya saya yakin gak jauh beda..... tingginya sih cuma beda 5mm, gak bedalah asumsinya. jadi mungkin yang menjadi faktor penentu adalah berat mobil dan cd kalo dihitung dari samping or belakang ya... hehehe namanya apa tuh kalo cd diukur dari samping ?? anyone explain?
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Not just CD, tapi Yaris wheelbase kalau ngak salah lebih pendek dari say Vios.

So I feel that handlingnya Yaris ngak mungkin bisa tanding ama Vios, meskipun mesinnya sama, cause bodinya BEDA. Juga center of gravitynya pasti beda juga.
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Sithlord wrote:Then what is the problem ? Well, what I found out was, saat saya duduk di baris 2, posisi biasa sebelah kiri, maupun kanan, dan saat saya stel kursinya ke posisi paling landai, paling relax dan santai, kepala saya ternyata mentok ama car ceilingnya.

Bukan cuman mentok 1 mm doang. Sekitar 5 mm lebih ! Artinya berasa kepala agak kejepit ke plafon mobil !
Ya, I agree. Sebetulnya saya sudah komentar hal ini di awal thread.
observer wrote:Omong2 sudah ada yang lihat Toyota Vitz/Yaris belum?

Saya pernah lihat sekali di showroom Ivan, n terus terang sedikit kecewa karena penampilannya tidak sebagus yang saya bayangkan. Satu minus lagi adalah ruang kepala di kursi luar baris ke-2 agak terbatas bahkan sampai mentok kepalaku. Yang pasti orang setinggi saya (183cm) ngak mungkin nyaman di situ deh.
Tapi setelah saya coba duduk lagi dengan bangku di-recline ke posisi paling belakang, maka kepalaku tidak mentok lagi. Memang dalam hal ini Yaris kalah lega dibandingkan Jazz. Tapi daripada beli Jazz yang sudah pasaran, saya rela lah toleransi handicap ini.
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Thanks atas saran2nya..
oh ya, baca berita di mobil.com, TRD parts buat yaris bakalan masuk juga ke indonesia. Wah, asyik nih.. hehehe
Tapi emang beneran ga ya? ntar cuma bualan TAM doank nih.
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Bung Obs. Kok terbalik ama saya. Justru kepala saya mentok saat bangku di posisi paling recline. Sudah mentok. Ngak bisa recline lagi. Justru mungkin kalau di bikin posisi lebih upright, baru lolos kepala saya. Maybe I should check again.

Anyway U are 183 cm tall. What do U eat since U are young ? Wah ! Tinggi segitu main golf ada advantage sebenernya. Longer legs, longer hands means bigger swing arc radius, dan pukulan bolanya bisa lebih jauh !

Thats why all the Top Golfers are very tall guys ! U should try golf kalau belum. U got the body advantage ! Sayang kalau ngak di pakai !

Tapi hell, Gary Player, golfer bagus dari South Africa, juga ngak tinggi, tapi kalau techniquenya bagus, bisa lumayan juga. But of course, the world's not fair. Jika sama sama bagus techniquenya, the taller guy will swing farther, everytime !

I think waktu anda masih muda, pasti banyak cewek naksir yah ! Kan cewek suka cowok tinggi !

And U can go on annual holidays, buy many cars. Man ! Life is good to U ! Enjoy while U can !

The main point is, sebelum beli mobil, study the car real hard. Get all the plus and minuses. Baru bisa jadi informed buyer. Kalau sudah tau minusnya masih bisa terima, urusan jadi selesai deh ! No more surprises !
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For Yaris indeners dan yang belom tapi thinking of ordering, my advise is jangan dulu till Sunday.

Cause hari Minggu ini, 19 Feb, siapa pun boleh ke Parkir Senayan Timur, there will be 4 units, each of the differring types (E, S), for anyone to test drive ! So Try before U buy !

I may or may not go. Tergantung ada activitas apa or not on Sunday. Cause I juga inggin cicipin mesin Vios ini. Banding rasanya ama HR15DE.

Tapi I am sure, mesin sama, bukan artinya Yaris bisa ngebut like Vios. No way. Like X-Trail 2.0 pasti lebih sip banding c24 2.0. Mesin sama, tapi body beda. Pasti handlingnya beda juga.

But what I am interested is in knowing, suara mesinnya, kehalusannya, tarikannya, responsnya to gas pedal. Also bantinggannya.

Heres a tip for Yaris test drivers. Go earlier in the morning. Saat banyak orang masih tidur enak. Sudah siang, bakal antri nanti ! Tau sendiri berapa hari ini cuaca PANAS man !

The event is from morning 8:00 am to abt 4-5 pm. On Sunday only ! So don't miss this chance to try sebelum keluar duit !

Yang pakai Vios juga mending coba lagi. Pasti beda rasanya.
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Sithlord wrote:Bung Obs. Kok terbalik ama saya. Justru kepala saya mentok saat bangku di posisi paling recline. Sudah mentok. Ngak bisa recline lagi. Justru mungkin kalau di bikin posisi lebih upright, baru lolos kepala saya. Maybe I should check again.
anda betul bro sithlord.... kepala saya juga mentok nih.. tinggi gak beda jauh 173cm.... sales nya toyota ampe gak bisa ngomong..... koq tahu tahu nya kalo orang tinggi disitu mentok.... cuma overall masih kategori oke laah...hehehe
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Bro Piterr,

Kalau anda sering baca post saya, anda akan lama lama sadar, meskipun kadang critic saya bisa tajam, bahkan untuk orang tertentu, ngekihin (menjengkelkan), TAPI anda akan sadar, I ALWAYS tell the truth ! Ngak pernah bohong atau pelintir fakta. Meskipun kadang salah, juga ngak sengaja.

Istilah saya mirip judge Simon Cowles di American Idol. Banding Paula Abdul dan Randy, Simon itu kesannya kasar, rude, to the point banget. Meskipun bikin orang telingganya merah. Tapi itulah saya, seperti dia. Jelek saya ngak akan ada ampunnya. Even Nissan, ada model yang no good juga. The Terrano is one of them. Kuno, nil safety, meskipun platnya kelihatan tebal, sempit, mahal. I NEVER recommend this car to any SMer. Not even once !

Sooo, anda baru tau, when I say Yaris itu baris 2nya kepala mentok, I am not trying to ridicule Toyota again. Fact is fact ! Ngak bisa di bantah !

Dan kenapa saya mau alert all Yaris buyers ? Cause dari pengalaman saya lihat banyak orang Indo test / lihat mobil, mayoritas cuman main duduk di driving seat. Start engine, drive, hey, its OK ! Buy ! Ngak pernah mereka analyse baris 2nya, baris 3nya, space cargonya selega berapa.

Sudah beli, baru " Kok begitu ya " ?

That is why I always STRESS to all SMers, sebelum beli mobil, Check and Recheck again ! Visit the showroom 3 kali juga OK ! Duduk lamaan di bangkunya. Test drive min.15 min kalau bisa. Kita bukan beli mainan 160,000 tapi 160 juta man ! Masa cuman basa basi saja saat pelajarin ?

That is why this info is very useful. Like I said, kalau sudah ngerti, dan tau jarang pakai baris 2 untuk carry orang tinggi, its OK ! Like bung Obs. He already knows and accepts it !

TAPI takutnya orang lain ngak sadar, beli Yaris untuk jadi " mobil keluarga ". Nanti sering ramai ramai 4 orang jalan jalan. Apalagi jaman sekarang, ABG pada tinggi tinggi semua. Kalau kepalanya mentok begitu, apa ngak ganggu nanti ?

Wah ! Saya 171 cm saja berasa. Apalagi anda, 173 cm. As for Bung Obs, yang tingginya mirip orang bule raksasa, kalau masih bilang ngak mentok, artinya I harus ukur ulang, apakah saya sudah tinggi 190 cm ?

Once again, jaman sekarang, kalau mau jual / ganti mobil, itu lumayan repot. Cause resale value lagi banyak yang no good. All brands are suffering ! Dan juga kalau tiap tahun ganti mobil terus juga rugi uang.

So make sure U really know the stuff yang mau di beli inside out, supaya pakai 3-5 tahun PUAS ! Ngak nanti seperti orang di Kompas, beli mobil cuman 2000 km, atau 10,000 km, sudah ganti !

To me, justru invest banyak waktu dan tenaga untuk analyse perbedaan mobil itu seru !

As they say, the Journey is as enjoyable as the destination itself ! Jangan cuman duduk, stir di kursi depan, 10 minute, thats it ! Buy ! Too fast man ! Study the car as U would calon istri anda ! U can't know 100% about her, but U should go for at least 80% before saying " I do ! "
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Wah g setuju banget dengan sarannya bung Sit, nice done.
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Sithlord wrote:I think waktu anda masih muda, pasti banyak cewek naksir yah ! Kan cewek suka cowok tinggi !
Hehehe, justru waktu gue muda, cewek pada ngak tertarik karena seperti tiang bendera gitu. Sekarang malah lebih [cencored].....eh, berisi. :lol:
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Sithlord wrote:Wah ! Saya 171 cm saja berasa. Apalagi anda, 173 cm. As for Bung Obs, yang tingginya mirip orang bule raksasa, kalau masih bilang ngak mentok, artinya I harus ukur ulang, apakah saya sudah tinggi 190 cm ?
Hehehe, either my body is too short, or your body is too long relative to height. Anyway I'll check again when I test drive this Sunday.
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Also Yaris have a seat common to many Japanese cars, including the Honda Stream, yaitu, saya perhatiin, panjang kursi bagian horizontalnya, yaitu, bagian yang di duduki pantat kita, agak pendek. Istilah not full size as some people call it in their reviews on websites.

Gimana mau tau ? well, ambil posisi duduk biasa di kursi driver. Then anda pakai tanggan ukur celah antara bagian kursi paling ujung, sampai ke bagian kaki knee joint. ( Is it Lutut in Indonesian ?).

Kalau kursi not full size, gapnya lumayan besar. Artinya, jarak jauh, ngak terlalu comfort. That is why I can feel so much difference between my c24's bigger seats banding Stream's. Beda rasanya kalau agak lamaan di mobil.

But I am more forgiving about this. Toh namanya juga city car. What do U expect ? Cuman terus terang, urusan kepala mentok itu lebih serious. Kalau libur keluar kota, dan anak ABG yang besar, tinggi duduk di baris 2, bisa complain terus dia nanti.

Actually the Serena's seats juga saya belum 100% puas. Masih ada celah, tapi its a lot better than Stream's. Kalau ngak salah inggat, kursi di mobil Eropa seperti BMW sangking full sizenya, duduk jadi mantap dan enak.

So I call this the " Ergonomic " factor yang juga harus di pertimbangkan saat beli mobil. Well, memang we can't have it all. Tapi harus sadar, nanti betah atau tidak dengan kondisi seperti yang di sajikan ATPM.

On looking back, saat saya beli Stream, umur saya cuman 31, 3+ years ago. Cuman beda sedikit, tapi saya inggat, saat itu saya masih agak seperti orang Indo umumnya.

Agak rash. Duduk sebentar di Stream, rasa OK. Baris 3nya saja sangking saya basa basi, malah saya sendiri OKin. Now, I wonder to myself " How in the hell do I pass the Stream's 3rd row as OK at that time ? " I made a big mistake of NOT being teliti enough !

Maybe at that time I was too much in a hurry to buy a new car, jadi agak ceroboh ! Careless ! Not observant enough ! Tapi at least I maafkan sendiri, toh tahun 2002, pilihan mobil ngak sebanyak sekarang.

Now agak nyesal, gimana ? Mau jual juga sudah rugi, terus belum dapat mobil pengantinya.

So take it from my 2002 mistake ! Harus benar pikir matang !

Bukan check dan recheck, tapi check, check, check, and check again ! Remember, its 160 juta, not Rp160,000 ! We are talking about ! Murah memang untuk ukuran mobil, tapi hell, its still not small money !

Kalau c24, yang saya merasa agak sedikit tidak puas itu adalah BBMnya yang cuman 1:7.7 average. I would like it to be more irit. Tapi hell, jaman sekarang, memang umum angka itu untuk minivan besar. So I got no choice anyway.

Buying a car itu saya pikir seperti tembak pistol ke sasaran. U only got a few bullets ! Kecuali orang kaya lah ! Kalau orang biasa, kan gonta ganti mobil terus ngak mungkin. Boros ! Juga repot jualnya. Ke pedagang di banting habis. Ke stranger takut mobil / rumahnya di rampok.

So like the military guys like to say " Make every shot count ! " Artinya, aim really hard, make sure U are sure thats the target U want, before U FIRE ! "
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Sithlord wrote: Kalau c24, yang saya merasa agak sedikit tidak puas itu adalah BBMnya yang cuman 1:7.7 average. I would like it to be more irit. Tapi hell, jaman sekarang, memang umum angka itu untuk minivan besar. So I got no choice anyway"
Bung Sithlord,

Kalau ada keberanian kayak saya ini, bisa coba menggunakan sedikit saja dimethylketone (2.50 cc ke 3.00 cc untuk setiap liter BBM).

Saya telah mencoba pada ketiga mobil saya :

1. Proton Wira 1.5 - dari 1 : 10 ke 1 : 12
2. Volvo 940 LPT - dari 1 : 6 ke 1 : 8.3
3. Lexus RX300 3.0 - dari 1 : 7.8 ke 1 : 9.2

Ok punya Bung.
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DIMETHYLKETONE itu apa Pak ? Yang sudah saya catat adalah Toluene & Acetone...
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frontier wrote:DIMETHYLKETONE itu apa Pak ? Yang sudah saya catat adalah Toluene & Acetone...
Dimethylketone = Propanon = Acetone, sama saja.

Toluene, Xylene yang biasa ada dalam campuran termasuk dalam kategory Heavy Naphthalene ataupun Aromatic Benzene. Orang biasa sebut Bensin.
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cuman FYI aja.....

buat kalian semua yg ada di surabaya.....dan minat ke Yaris....bisa dateng ke SSCC,Supermall Pakuwon hari sabtu bsk tgl 18 Feb.....

ada acara pengenalan Yaris tuh.....ok......

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Untuk semua yang di Jakarta DAN Surabaya juga,

Yang inggin test drive Yaris, apalagi kalau di Surabaya belum bisa test drive, silahkan naik pesawat terdekat ke Jakarta, dan ke Lapanggan Parkir Timur. Bisa test drive Yaris sampai kenyang, well ada batasnya waktu soalnya yang mau coba harus antri.
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Haha ! Lupa ! Paling penting, minggu ini tanggal 19 Feb 06, pagi sampai sore.

Must try before U buy !
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gw td ngeliat yaris silver lewat depan gw...keren bgt...more futuristik then jazz....
tp menurut gw modelnya lebih kerenan swift...
tp resale value nya pasti lbih bagusan yaris...
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Post by observer »

Waha, teman2, Yaris gue sudah tiba di rumah. Cuman sayangnya belum ada plat polisi, jadi paling ditonton aja di rumah. Kata sales yang antarin sepanjang jalan banyak orang yang lihatin dan bahkan ikutin! :)

Pengamatan pertama: pintunya enteng amat, seperti punyanya Avanza gitu. Dan Mr. Darklord you're right, bangku belakang pada posisi reclining lebih mentok kepala, tapi cuman sebatas rambut saja, ngak sampai kulit sih. Cabin depan terasa lega banget baik ruang kaki maupun ruang kepala! Dan dengan posisi bangku depan di paling mundur, saya tetap bisa duduk di belakangnya. I may be wrong, but I suspect as far as legroom is concerned, Yaris even beats Altis!!
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