Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat - PART 01

[grandscenic]

1. US government "terpaksa" kasi loan ke GM karena kalo likuidasi ekonomi Amerika bisa tambah morat marit. Makanya namanya "GOVERNMENT BAILOUT"

2. Credit line Ford adalah dari BANK, atas usaha dan agunan sendiri...bukan dari PEMERINTAH....ngerti kan bedanya? Ibaratnya saya minjam dari BCA pake agunan dan proses kredit, bukan dapet Bantuan Miskin dari Departemen Sosial...beda

1. lehman brothers dibiarin bangkrut, ngapain "maksa" nyelamatin GM?
us govt bego kah? ato krn prospek masa depan GM yg msh bagus?
tolol2 ya org2nya Obama, buang2 duit percuma milyaran dolar?

2. GM dpt duit dr fed itu hibah ato pinjaman?
klo pinjaman, mesti dibalikin ga duitnya? pake bunga ga?
enakan mana (ford) minjem dibank ato (GM) di fed?
silakan googling mas......


bujug, bener2 oot dah ini. tred ttg toyota tp ngebahas ford n GM

Lanjut dah.. biar oot jg, tmbh wawasan...

knapa utk si GM diksh kucuran dana, krn produk ini da pnya pasar..,dan jd identitias industri otomotif US, skrg GM ini jg dipegang oleh sebuah perusahaan (tp ane lupa nama prshaannya), tp yg pasti ini prshaan.. yg pnya Departemen Keuangan US, makanya skrg di split menjadi New GM dan Old GM, utk Old Gm klo ga slh cma pnya saham sktr 10%, New GM lebh dr stngahnya, sisanya ya pihak ketiga.

Who Owns The New GM?

The common stock of the new General Motors Co. will be owned by:
U.S. Treasury: 60.8 percent
United Auto Workers Retiree Medical Benefits Trust: 17.5 percent
Canada and Ontario governments: 11.7 percent
The old GM: 10 percent

[FortunerMan]

Kalo ownership ya memang berbeda, tapi bukannya perusahaannya jadi berubah. Pegawai2nya masih itu2 saja, bos2nya kebanyakan itu2 juga, kepala2 pabrik ya itu2 juga, engineer2nya ya itu2 juga. Yg banyak berubah yg busuk2nya, yaitu managementnya - kalo engineer2nya banyak yg hebat2. Bukan berarti owner baru trus company culturenya jadi berubah secara instan.

Yg om sebut "Old GM" yg 10% itu cuman bondholders...obviously ini juga banyak pihak, begitu juga para "creditor"

61 percent: U.S. government
17.5 percent: United Auto Workers union through its retiree health-care trust
11.7 percent: Canadian government
9.8 percent: Bondholders from the old company

[asudarsono]

Wah gede juga bail outnya. saya setuju dgn posting bro terdahulu, GM dibail out ini krn Negara AS punya kepentingan di situ. Jadi nggak dibiarkan go under seperti contoh PanAm, TWA, Lemann dkk. Kalau PanAm bankrut siapa perduli??? Kalau GM bangkrut, gimana nasib AS soalnya soko guru AS khan antara lain Detroit.

Kemarin ada kawan2 perusahaan asing yg dibailout sama Pemerintahnya (bos2nya yg dulu terlalu berani ..... Dubai, Dubai). DI kantor Indonesia yg ganti cuma 4 orang dari puluhan expat. Tapi walau gitu, kerasa buanget corporate culturenya berubah total. Jauh lebih hati2. Moga2 GM juga jadi lebih baik.

[grandscenic]

Yg om sebut "Old GM" yg 10% itu cuman bondholders...obviously ini juga banyak pihak, begitu juga para "creditor"

Ya betul, dr gambar jg bs dilihat, gak ada tulisan Old GM, terima ksh atas tambahanya.

[mintblue]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/busin ... oyota.html

Adding to its woes, the transportation secretary, Ray LaHood, said Wednesday that owners of recalled Toyotas should stop driving their vehicles, though he quickly backtracked on the comments.

Kenapa terkesan otoritas AS & media massa di sana bertubi2 ''memukuli'' Toyota ya? Ada apa ini? mulai tercium aroma konspirasi
http://www.financialpost.com/story.html ... um=twitter

There can be little doubt that Toyota, the world's greatest auto maker in recent years, has become the victim of much more than another typical out-of-control All-American media frenzy. When top-line political gamesman such as U.S. Transport Secretary Ray LaHood, Congressional pit bull Henry Waxman, and conniving United Auto Workers executives start piling on, this is clearly much bigger sport that the usual ritual public lynching of auto executives, a routine occurrence in Washington. The attack on Toyota, at this time of U.S. economic weakness and populist excess, is fast turning into a great American nationalist assault on a foreign corporation, an economic war.

Dikorek2 lah kesalahannya, sampai Tacoma & Prius dibawa juga.
Tapi untungnya negara (AS) dgn mayoritas rakyat berpendidikan tinggi, opini susah disetir. banyak juga yg berpendapat ''We would save more lives by parking our Obama than by parking our Toyotas'' (http://twitter.com/#search?q=Toyotas)

Bgm nih rekan2 di forum ini? bikin gerakan sejuta SM-ers membela pabrikan Asia?

[FortunerMan]

Masuk akal lah, GM kan Government Motors...makes sense lah di belain sama "Government", wong yg punya kok Malah si menteri Lahood tadinya bilang "Stop driving" recalled Toyotas, dan seluruh Toyota owners panik. Tapi beberapa jam kemudian statementnya ditarik kembali (pastinya setelah di telpon lawyernya Toyota)

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2010 ... -cars.html

Just hours after Department of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood advised Toyota owners affected by the recent recall to “stop driving” their cars, LaHood has retracted his statement. LaHood made the comments earlier today appearing before a heading into the recalls.

“What I said in there was obviously a misstatement,” said LaHood. The DOT is now urging owners to contact their local dealership to have the problem fixed as soon as possible.

[DOHC]

yee... justru jgn ampe donk tuh toyota bangkrut, scara ntuh perusahaan gede banget gt, mo dikmanain pekerja2 nya kalo mereka bangkrut.... apalagi kaya di indonesia, kliatan banget toyota melalui astra tuh "sungguh besar" di negeri ini... lah wong presdir nya wafat aja, ampir stengah koran isinya ucapan yg segede2 nya, mendiang gusdur aja kalah tuh banyak nya.... nah kalo toyota bangkrut, ambrol donk ekonomi negeri ini...

Lho...kalo Toyota Jepang bangkrut...nggak ngaruh lah ama Toyota Indonesia...badan usahanya kan lain - tinggal jualan Dong Feng Corolla atau Daewoo Camry aja, adem ayem aja Toyota Indonesia maap, ane ikut2an pake logika ngawur...yg katanye GM Asia adem2 aja kalo GM USA likuidasi...

nah kalo uda gt, bakal ane borong tuh dong feng corolla atau daewoo camry nya...

[DOHC]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/busin ... oyota.html

Adding to its woes, the transportation secretary, Ray LaHood, said Wednesday that owners of recalled Toyotas should stop driving their vehicles, though he quickly backtracked on the comments.

Kenapa terkesan otoritas AS & media massa di sana bertubi2 ''memukuli'' Toyota ya? Ada apa ini? mulai tercium aroma konspirasi
http://www.financialpost.com/story.html ... um=twitter

There can be little doubt that Toyota, the world's greatest auto maker in recent years, has become the victim of much more than another typical out-of-control All-American media frenzy. When top-line political gamesman such as U.S. Transport Secretary Ray LaHood, Congressional pit bull Henry Waxman, and conniving United Auto Workers executives start piling on, this is clearly much bigger sport that the usual ritual public lynching of auto executives, a routine occurrence in Washington. The attack on Toyota, at this time of U.S. economic weakness and populist excess, is fast turning into a great American nationalist assault on a foreign corporation, an economic war.

Dikorek2 lah kesalahannya, sampai Tacoma & Prius dibawa juga.
Tapi untungnya negara (AS) dgn mayoritas rakyat berpendidikan tinggi, opini susah disetir. banyak juga yg berpendapat ''We would save more lives by parking our Obama than by parking our Toyotas'' (http://twitter.com/#search?q=Toyotas)

Bgm nih rekan2 di forum ini? bikin gerakan sejuta SM-ers membela pabrikan Asia?

mungkin jg seh ini usaha pemerintah sana utk menjegal penjualan toyota, dan scara tidak langsung menolong perusahaan2 mereka sendiri kaya GM utk meningkatkan penjualan nya... yah istilahnya kaya kasi jalan gt si GM utk maju kaya dulu lagi ngalahin toyota...

[maskopat]

Ada situs NHTSA di bawah, kita bisa cari kompain konsumen, investigasi, recall dll terhadap merk2 mobil secara rinci.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/

Yang Cobalt itu khan masih investigasi, belum tentu ada masalah yang berakibar recall. Kasus Cobalt baru dibuka 27 Januari 2010 ini (nomor kasus PE10005)

Kasus lain yang sedang diinvestigasi termasuk (ini list cuma mobil yg dijual ATPM Indonesia :

BMW
seri 3 E46 2002 - 2005 : Lampu belakang bermasalah

Ford
Escape / Tribute 2001 - 2004 : mesin terbakar

Honda
Civic dan Accord 2001 -2002 : airbag bocor
Accord 2002 - 2003 : kunci tuas AT
Oddessy 2005 : pintu belakang menutup sendiri
Oddessy 2007 - 2008 : oli rem kemasukan udara

Mazda
RX8 2004 - 2006 : tuas kopling patah

Jeep
Grand Cherokee 1993 -2002 : terbakar saat tabrakan

Subaru
Impreza WRX 2002 - 2003 : pipa bensin bocor

Toyota
Corolla 2006 : ECM / idle mesin

Volvo
XC90 2004 : pipa bensin bocor

Bnyak di antara ini teidak akan jadi recall, karena tidak terbukti ada kesalahan manufaktur

weits, gak ada mitsu di situ... sip dah...


*kabor dulu ah....

[DOHC]

* ikutan om kopat


wahh ga ada isuzu ama nissan... sipp dahh

[maskopat]

* ikutan om kopat


wahh ga ada isuzu ama nissan... sipp dahh

siiiip.... mobil aman dan reliable gitu loch.....

.......wush..... ngacih ah... sebelum disabet..........

[grandscenic]

Kenapa terkesan otoritas AS & media massa di sana bertubi2 ''memukuli'' Toyota ya? Ada apa ini? mulai tercium aroma konspirasi

Dikorek2 lah kesalahannya, sampai Tacoma & Prius dibawa juga.
Tapi untungnya negara (AS) dgn mayoritas rakyat berpendidikan tinggi, opini susah disetir. banyak juga yg berpendapat ''We would save more lives by parking our Obama than by parking our Toyotas'' (http://twitter.com/#search?q=Toyotas)

Bgm nih rekan2 di forum ini? bikin gerakan sejuta SM-ers membela pabrikan Asia?

Ya org2 sono emang kritis, gak gampang ikutan maen arus, contohnya utk dikls luxury car, mereka mayoritas lebih muji Lexus dibanding Audi, Bmw, MercBenz. Saya baca ada slh satu keluarga pecinta otomotif & punya usaha dibidang otomotif.. mereka bilang gini..

"Lexus is more reliable...we have three. My husband (he has 25+ years with every single model on the planet) can fix a Lex with his hands tied behind his back and a blindfold on.
You would need a team of engineers, a psychic, the patience of Job, and a bottle of vodka to be able to deal with a German car.

Utk used car, Midsize Sedan yg paling bnyk dicari Honda Accord.
Utk Minivan #1. Odyssey, bahkan Sedona di #2.

..semuanya si Nippon punya.

[asudarsono]

enak emang mobil Jepang, kecuali sering hrs pakai SST. Kepingin gitu bongkar mesin Toyota modal obeng dan kunci pas doank

[FortunerMan]

Full article di atas http://www.financialpost.com/story.html ... um=twitter

The war on Toyota

There can be little doubt that Toyota, the world's greatest auto maker in recent years, has become the victim of much more than another typical out-of-control All-American media frenzy. When top-line political gamesman such as U.S. Transport Secretary Ray LaHood, Congressional pit bull Henry Waxman, and conniving United Auto Workers executives start piling on, this is clearly much bigger sport that the usual ritual public lynching of auto executives, a routine occurrence in Washington. The attack on Toyota, at this time of U.S. economic weakness and populist excess, is fast turning into a great American nationalist assault on a foreign corporation, an economic war.

The White House has denied any such motivation on the part of the United States. But that denial lacks credibility. While it may be technically true that President Obama's team didn't explicitly reach a decision to target Toyota, nobody in this crowd needs a presidential order to turn the Japanese auto giant's Sudden Unintended Acceleration (SUA) problem into a national industrial advantage for the United States. The owners of union-dominated Government Motors can spot a strategic economic opportunity without waiting for the memo from head office.

California Congressman Henry Waxman swung into action, using recent anecdotal reports of sudden acceleration as a pretext for extended assaults on Toyota and its management. The UAW has joined the project as part of its campaign against Toyota's closure of a unionized California plant.

Wednesday you could practically see the calculating wheels spinning under the hood of Mr. LaHood's cranium when the transportation secretary told a committee that Toyota owners should simply "stop driving" their Toyotas. He later claimed to have misspoken, but then said much the same thing. If Toyota drivers are worried, they can take their vehicles to a dealer where, as Mr. LaHood knows, there was nothing the dealer could do since it is expected to take weeks if not months for Toyota to "fix" the alleged cause of Toyota's alleged sudden acceleration problem.

Toyota shares continued their SUA plunge Wednesday, ending just below $74, down from recent highs of $92. The company has lost $23-billion in market capitalization since the crisis began.

At this stage, there is little hard data on whether Toyota actually has a sudden acceleration problem. The company is not helping matters with its apparent scrambling to come up with an explanation and a "fix" for a phenomenon that has been cropping up in auto industry lore for decades. No maker is immune, but Toyota is seems to have been caught in the latest run of reports. All of the reports are anecdotal accounts of out-of-control vehicles for reasons that nobody can ever adequately explain. The latest stories, including one of a Tennessee man who says his 2003 Camry suddenly jolted into a parking space, become instant media legends.

Of the millions of cars on the road, only a few hundred anecdotal reports exist, making it far more likely that other things are happening, including driver mistakes and even fluke occurrences that no amount of corporate fixing can avoid. Usually the stories fade and the auto companies move on, although Audi famously became victim of a SUA craze a couple of decades ago, losing massive market share even though no problem was ever identified beyond driver error.

Toyota's experience looks like it could become even worse than Audi's, mainly because bashing Toyota serves the national economic interest of the United States, U.S. auto makers, union leaders and others whose economic ideas tend toward nationalism. U.S. jobs for U.S. workers employed by U.S. companies.

Is the media involved? The extent of exaggeration surrounding Toyota's problem may be just a little larger than the usual media frenzy. In a typical over-the-top anti-Toyota item, famed author James B. Stewart Wednesday told Wall Street Journal readers to "avoid - or sell - Toyota Motor shares." His reason is that Toyota may have misrepresented the cause of a now notorious crash of a Toyota Lexus ES-350 in San Diego last August. Toyota said the Lexus crash, in which four occupants were killed following a frantic 911 call, was due to a faulty floor mat.

The official accident report by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration makes clear that the floor mat is the likely culprit and Toyota may not quite be responsible. The mat in the Lexus was "not secured" properly, and it was also the wrong mat for that Lexus model. There also appeared to be no notable issues with the accelerator pedal itself.

Another newspaper treatment of the Lexus event, in The New York Times, also treated the San Diego crash as a function of a Toyota acceleration problem that has more causes than a poorly-maintained and wrongly installed floor mat. So far, however, nobody has proven this to be true. Even less clear is how the fix Toyota has announced - involving a new part for the accelerator pedal - is even related to the problem. Was Toyota panicked into doing something - anything - when faced with a looming full-bore economic attack from the United States Economic Marines, with the media imbedded as part of the crusade?

[asudarsono]

* ikutan om kopat


wahh ga ada isuzu ama nissan... sipp dahh

Subaru ada yg diinvestigasi yaitu WRX dengan hasil


Subaru has initiated a voluntary regional recall to replace specific engine fuel lines and hoses
on approximately 5,724 2002 and 2003MY Impreza WRX models registered in 16 “cold weather” states located in NOAA Climate Zone 1.

The affected states are:
Alaska, Colorado, Iowa, Idaho, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, North Dakota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York,
South Dakota, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

Campaign code WVK-21 has been assigned to this regional recall.
In extremely cold temperatures, a certain engine fuel line/hose may
temporarily seep some fuel during initial cold engine start up.
If this condition occurs, vehicle occupants may notice the smell of fuel.
To correct this condition, affected vehicles will require replacement of the engine fuel delivery line and hose.
A special repair parts kit will be available in the near future.
The kit contains all parts needed to complete this repair.

Additionally, Subaru will follow up in early CY 2010 with letters to owners
that it will provide an extended 12 year/unlimited mileage warranty for this
condition to owners of affected vehicles located in the remaining 34 states.

Kecepatan penanganan dan keseriusan pabrik sangat dihargai. Anggap aja dpt hasil studi gratis

[FortunerMan]

GM mulai bayar hutang 5 thn lbh cepat, bhkn diprediksi bisa lunas di 2011 (4thn lbh cpt)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33958644/ns/business-autos/

Oh...bayar hutang lebih cepat ya...duitnya dari mana?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33961851/ns/business-autos/

The repayment of government loans will begin with a $1.2 billion installment in December. GM said it plans to repay the debt over the next two years and possibly as early as next year.

That money will come from a $16.4 billion contingency fund set up by the U.S. government in case sales worsened or other problems cropped up. The seemingly circular payment plan was already stirring controversy in Congress. "What is the logic in repaying government loans with taxpayer dollars?" asked Brooke Buchanan, a spokeswoman for Republican Sen. John McCain.

Brad Coulter, director of O'Keefe and Associates, a financial consulting firm near Detroit, said using government money to pay off the government debt is partly a public relations move.

Ooo...ya ya ya Bayar utang lama lebih cepat, dengan dana bantuan baru...sip!

[asudarsono]

Tentang WAR ON TOYOTA, apa iya sih? Jadinya bener nih Amerika suka berperang, dan perang di mana2 adalah "hiburan" bagi para warmongers bule? Kayak novel Tom Clancy aja.

Apakah ini hanya keluh kesah sebuah perusahaan multinasional yang sedang dirundung misluck sementara? Saya nggak tahulah.

Yang penting adalah bahwa semua pabrikan makin sigap dalam memperbaiki mobilnya, makin mendengarkan keluhan konsumen setianya dan selalu berusaha membuat mobil yang lebih baik. Itu recall voluntary Subaru sudah dibahas di NASIOC sampai 12 halaman, katanya hampir semua WRX tahun itu emang mengalami gejala bbm bocor. Kenpa harus nunggu ditunjukkan oleh NSHTA? Kenapa nggak dari dulu (sejak 2002) dengerin kliennya? In this regard, pemerintah AS sedang melakukan tugas secara baik sebagai regulator, bukan mengada2.

Tapi juga jangan sampai isu ini ditangkap secara sensasional sehingga terjadi kepanikan.

Toyota akan tetap hidup kok. Lagi pula kekuatan Toyota bukan cuma di sedan. Apalagi di Indonesia, kekuatannya di MPV yang sama sekali tidak terpengaruh isu recall.

[FortunerMan]

2009 GM msh rugi kyknya, tp gedean mana ama ruginya toyota?
kedepannya?

btw, 2010 toyota diprediksi untung apa rugi ya? bisa rugi 3thn berturut2 loh

Hmmm...mari lihat datanya Ini Toyota, yg lagi parah2nya nih katanye....
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9743450

Toyota Posts $1.7B Profit, Raises Annual Forecast
Toyota returns to profit in Oct-Dec, raises annual earnings forecast despite recall problems
Toyota Motor Corp., grappling with spreading safety problems that are battering its image, returned to profit in the October-December quarter and raised its annual earnings forecast.

The world's No. 1 automaker Thursday reported a quarterly net profit of 153.2 billion yen ($1.7 billion) and cited stronger sales of the Prius and other "green" models. It reported a 164.7 billion yen loss a year earlier.

The results don't reflect the damage from the massive recalls linked to faulty gas pedals, announced Jan. 21. But the suspension of U.S. sales of eight of its most popular models and repair costs are expected to undermine earnings in the current quarter.

Still, Toyota raised its annual earnings forecast and expects to be back in the black after losing money last year. It now expects a profit of 80 billion yen for the year through March from an earlier projection of a 200 billion yen loss.

Mayan lah...afterall, it's poor Toyota, makers of unsafe cars, yg quality ratingnya yg tinggi adalah hasil nyumpel mulut konsumennya Malah sudah kena recall, masih naikin forecast tahunannya...

[asudarsono]

Hahaha, iklan di bawah posting bro FM adalah : FORD FLEX : FLEX QUALITY CAN'T BE BEAT BY HONDA PILOT.

Ironis sekali

[GTR]

Ternyata permasalahan yg didapat toyota berasal dari salah satu pemasoknya yaitu CTS corp yg ada di China ,
hmmm kalau gue lihat sih emang gak aneh . karena China terkenal dengan produk murahnya yang mana kualitas produknya tidak terjamin stabilitasnya seperti contoh Susu China . Sangat sangat Berani produsennya menambahkan Melamine berlebihan ke produknya hanya untuk mengejar standard makanan dan minuman .

Link supplier Toyota yg bermasalah : http://www.ctscorp.com/automotive/pedal/modules.htm

Bro, just clarification aja. CTS itu American Company yg ada basis produksinya dimana-mana, salah satunya termasuk China. Jadi kalo ada produk CTS yg defect itu berarti QC dr CTS as a company yg hrs bertanggung jawab dong bukan negara origin productionnya. Memang benar produk China banyak yg murah dan kalo mau murah ya otomatis harus mau compromise di quality dong. Kasus melamine itu hanya contoh sebagian pelaku industri yg tidak bertanggung jawab yg tidak bisa dipakai utk menggambarkan kualitas product China secara umum saat ini. Dgn budget produksi yg pantas dr pemesan, China dpt memproduksi barang standard international yg good in quality setara dgn negara advance lain dgn cost yg jauh lbh kompetitif. Masalahnya banyak pemesan mau cost produksi redah untuk profit yg lbh besar maka jadilah produk yg bermasalah di reliability dan quality. Just for info China skrg adalah pemegang rekor untuk kereta listrik tercepat di dunia mengalahkan Jepang dan Eropa yg notabene adalah negara yg advance di bidang industri (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581 ... latestnews). Jadi kalo mrk hanya bisa produksi barang "sampah" ini ga bakal bisa terwujud. Just my 2 cents. Cheers

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... e-pedals/1

Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi are among CTS' auto customers.

Honda's U.S. spokesman Kurt Antonius said that the pedal assemblies Honda buys from CTS are a different design. He said that CTS is obliged to inform other automakers who bought pedals similar to the Toyota design, "and they haven't notified us." He added: "We have no customer complaints. We have examined the pedals. It doesn't appear to be a problem for us."

Nissan spokesman Scott Vazin said "our designs are different" for the CTS assemblies. Throttle-pedal systems used on Nissan and Infiniti vehicles are linked to a feature than will "recognize when both the brake and accelerator are depressed and automatically reduce engine power," he says. That makes it easier for a panicked driver to stop a runaway car.

Mitsubishi spokesman Maurice Durand said CTS builds the pedal assembly to Mitsubishi specifications, which the automaker believes are different from Toyota's. Mitsubishi has no reports of sticking throttles, he says.

Throttle systems today are electronic. When the driver pushes the pedal, it doesn't directly connect to the engine. Rather, the movement of the pedal arm acts on electronic components attached to the pedal assembly. That sends an electrical signal to the engine-control computer, telling it to add more fuel to speed up or cut back to slow down.

In the Toyota case, though, the problem appears to be with mechanical parts that return the throttle pedal to its normal position once the driver lets up on the gas.

Even though Toyota hasn't figured out how to fix the problem, it says its dealers are supposed to work with worried owners to see if a remedy can be found before the official recall procedure is announced.

Pedal assemblies from Toyota's other supplier, Denso, aren't all interchangeable with the CTS units, the automaker says, eliminating what would be an obvious and relatively easy fix.

Toyota balks at discussing suppliers, though it had to name CTS in its recall report to NHTSA Thursday. "We consider this a genuine Toyota part, no matter who makes it," Hanson says. "It's not the supplier's responsibility. It's ours."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... le1448216/

“They are all designed to their specifications. All the designs are very different.” CTS has between 16 and 20 per cent of the global market for accelerator pedals, and also supplies them to Chrysler, Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi, he said.

CTS is the supplier, yes, but that does not mean they designed it. Initial designs usually come from the manufacturer, and especially in the case of Honda and Toyota, both supplier and manufacturer work closely to get it to production the way they both want it to.

That's probably why you haven't heard any of the other OEMs using CTS pedals issuing recalls (yet).

[FortunerMan]

Hebat juga ya, berarti untuk Camry saja Toyota bikin berapa design pedal gas (kurang kerjaan juga ya)...soalnya yg merek Denso gak bermasalah nyangkut2 - dan supplier tidak mungkin ada cacat produksi di produksinya.

[solar_kerosen]

Pembelajaran bagi suatu negara besar dan maju serta produsen raksasa jangan terlalu Duniawi . makanya ingat Tuhan atau Agama karena kita hidup di bumi tidak sendirian . untuk itulah segala sesuatu yg kita rencanakan dan kerjakan perlu didoakan maupun dibuat acara selamatan jangan terlalu teknik dan juga duniawi

NB: memang kayaknya jauh dari topik tapi percayalah, KITA TIDAK SENDIRIAN DI DUNIA INI MASIH ADA YG LEBIH TINGGI DERAJATNYA

[FortunerMan]

Nah kalo yg ini kayanya yg di Indonesia pasti ngikut deh...soalnya Jepang juga kena dan ini import dr Jepun
http://us.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/02 ... tml?hpt=T1

Toyota: Software to blame for Prius brake problems
Tokyo, Japan (CNN) -- Without issuing a recall of its iconic Prius hybrid vehicles, Toyota said Thursday a software glitch is to blame for braking problems in the 2010 model.

"We would want to be given a little time," Hiro Yuki Yokoyama, Toyota's managing officer, said when reporters asked whether a recall was in the works.

The company changed its braking system software in January as part of what it called "constant quality improvements," but did not say what it would do about vehicles manufactured before then.

Toyota officials described the problem as a "disconnect" in the vehicle's complex anti-lock brake system (ABS) that causes less than a one-second lag. With the delay, a vehicle going 60 mph will have traveled nearly another 90 feet before the brakes begin to take hold.

Brakes in hybrids such as the Prius operate differently from brakes in most cars. In addition to standard brakes, which use friction from pads pressed against drums or rotors, the electric motors in hybrids help slow them. The process also generates electricity to recharge the batteries.

[mpvlover]

Pembelajaran bagi suatu negara besar dan maju serta produsen raksasa jangan terlalu Duniawi . makanya ingat Tuhan atau Agama karena kita hidup di bumi tidak sendirian . untuk itulah segala sesuatu yg kita rencanakan dan kerjakan perlu didoakan maupun dibuat acara selamatan jangan terlalu teknik dan juga duniawi

NB: memang kayaknya jauh dari topik tapi percayalah, KITA TIDAK SENDIRIAN DI DUNIA INI MASIH ADA YG LEBIH TINGGI DERAJATNYA

Ngomong apa sih mau bawa bawa SARA ke forum otomotif ??? mayoritas org amerika itu penganut kristen apa loe mau ngomong kristen itu bukan agama ??

Loe pikir bangsa ini ingat tuhan atau agama ?? baca koran murah banyak berita kriminal kakek nyodomi cucu bapa memperkosa anak kandung org motong motong anak kecil buat latihan ilmu hitam! cuma bangsa ini yg ngomong UU nati [cencored] padahal tiap ada acara dangdut hebohnya minta ampun. cuman bangsa ini juga yg terorisnya orang sendiri dengan KTP indonesia !! bunuh diri bawa bom bawa bawa byk org ga bersalah ! jangan MUNA bung !!!

KITA EMANG GA SENDIRIAN BUKAN CUMA DI DUNIA INI BUNG, DI UNIVERSE INI ADA RIBUAN GALAKSI DGN JUTAAN MATAHARI DAN MILYARAN PLANET KAYA BUMI, JGN PIKIR MANUSIA ITU PALING SUCI PALING HEBAT BUNG!

Loe mau khotbah silakan ke tetangga loe tp jangan OOT di forum otomotif !! NGACO INI ORANG APA HUBUNGANNYA DESAIN PEDAL GAS SAMA AGAMA YANG BIKIN ???

EH BUNG LIAT DI NEGARA MAJU MANA ADA WASIT SEPAK BOLA BABAK BELUR DIHAJAR PEMAEN BOLANYA ?? DISINI WASIT DIKEJAR DITENDANG DILUDAHIN !! NGACA BUNG SEBELOM NGOMONGIN NEGARA ORANG !! BELAJAR BERADAB DULU, BARU BISA BIKIN PEDAL GAS BUNG !!

[zweifellos]

om mpvlover kenapa ya?

memang postingan om solar kerosen terlihat aneh karena membawa masalah ingat tuhan atau agama ke otomotif tapi kok respon dari om mpvlover jadi kek gitu ya?

SARAnya di mana ya? saya nangkapnya om solar kerosen nyaranin BERUSAHA DAN BERDOA. tapi kok malah jadi SARA?

ini yang saya ngerti dari postingan om solar kerosen:

Pembelajaran bagi suatu negara besar dan maju serta produsen raksasa jangan terlalu Duniawi .

yang dibahas adalah negara besar atau produsen raksasa. dalam kaitan thread ini mestinya toyota dan jepang atau merk/negara lain yang juga ikutan recall2an. dan juga ga ada ngaitin dengan agama tertentu. cuman bilang (ngingetin) jangan terlalu duniawi. makanya saya bingung kenapa tiba2 jadi fokus ke orang amerika serta agama?

makanya ingat Tuhan atau Agama karena kita hidup di bumi tidak sendirian . untuk itulah segala sesuatu yg kita rencanakan dan kerjakan perlu didoakan maupun dibuat acara selamatan jangan terlalu teknik dan juga duniawi

NB: memang kayaknya jauh dari topik tapi percayalah, KITA TIDAK SENDIRIAN DI DUNIA INI MASIH ADA YG LEBIH TINGGI DERAJATNYA

ini ga ada yang bilang itu produsen atau negara maju ga beragama. cuman diingetin supaya ingat tuhan dan agama. seperti kalo ada orang bilang bahwa pejabat2 kita mestinya ingat tuhan dan agama, tentu ini bukan lantas artinya negara kita atau itu pejabat tidak beragama apalagi agama yang dianutnya bukan merupakan agama, seperti yang om mpvlover maksudkan.

makanya saya bingung, kok respon om mpvlover aneh bgt?