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Jupiemx99 wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:44 Untuk kelas lmpv dan harga segitu, mobil ini cukup menjanjikan. Secara umum exterior dan interior lebih unggul dari lmpv lain. Setiap mobil memang ada kelebihan dan kekurangannya. Kalau dilihat harga lmpv lain seperti avanza, mobilio, ertiga kelihatannya overpriced. Tapi mereka main dengan diskon. Dan diskonnya cukup besar. Saya gak yakin x pander bisa ngasih diskon besar. Kemungkinan harganya naik. Indentnya juga lumayan panjang.
Ini imho aja ya.. :big_peace:
Iya merek lain harga price list nya ga real ada diskon besar.

Kalau dibilang xpander murah sih gak juga yah.
Krn mobil ini teknologi mesin dan transmisi jadul punya.

Mesin xpander sudah ada dari tahun 2005 diluar nama nya mitsubishi colt city car.
Transmisi sendiri 4 at sudah dr tahun 90an punya

Jd duit yg kita keluarkan beli tampilan baru interior dan exterior.

Kaget juga liat kap mesin ada list karet di pinggir ( kaya pintu) , guna nya apa y? Jarang liat mobil jepang ada karet di kap mesin.
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bener sih emang paket ekonomis nya mitsu aja ..
karena mitsu sangat jarang ngeluarin mid mpv ( terakhir maven) .. jadi heboh aja
tapi overall sih menarik koq..

karet kap mesin buat biar aer ujan ga langsung nyprat ke ruang mesin ..
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ada saran ??

Pilih Ultimate interior Beige


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masih bingung :big_blushing:
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selera itu om , kalo ada duid lebih beli utimate g amasalah koq..
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Takumi wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 18:34 selera itu om , kalo ada duid lebih beli utimate g amasalah koq..
iya sih om, cuma bingung buat jangka panjang,

hitam takut banyak baretan klihatan

klo beige takut kusam & cepat kotor ja.
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modtari wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 18:42
Takumi wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 18:34 selera itu om , kalo ada duid lebih beli utimate g amasalah koq..
iya sih om, cuma bingung buat jangka panjang,

hitam takut banyak baretan klihatan

klo beige takut kusam & cepat kotor ja.
item aja om, gak gampang keliatan kalo kotor, apalagi kalo ada bakal sering dinaikin anak kecil
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Sy sih lbh cocok yg item
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:mky_02:
apktntaj wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 16:08 IMHO, LMPV market has been disrupted by XPander.

Bagusss lahh... biar pabrikan lainnya tobat dan nyadar bahwa kita konsumen di Indonesia bukan lagi sapi perah yg dengan seenaknya disodori overpriced mobil kaleng kerupuk minim fitur selama bertahun-tahun tanpa inovasi berarti. Yg untung juga kita konsumen. Merdekaaa!
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modtari wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 18:25 ada saran ??

Pilih Ultimate interior Beige


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Sport Interior Black

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masih bingung :big_blushing:
Sebenernya lebih ke selera juga sih. Om punya anak kecil atau nggak? Terus apakah dipake sendiri atau sama supir?
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steakikan wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:38
Brozki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:29
osbertc0ol wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:34

Setuju,

Diliat spek mesin nya sih mobilio dan xpander sama2 141 loh, malah keliatanya lebih bagus expander soalnya 141 @4k sedangkan mobilio @4500 (CMIIW)

Gak sabar ada yg review..

Lah torsi puncaknya mobilnyong kan 145Nm @4600rpm om, sementara xpander 141Nm @4000rpm :big_smile]
Mungkin karena torsi puncaknya didapat di rpm lebih rendah, bukan karena peaknya lebih tinggi...
Betul om, kalo kurva torsinya ditarik ke rpm 4000 ya kurang lebih aja sih torsinya ama mitsu. Emang L15Z1nya ahond kan karakternya lebih ke hi revving.
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keretalaut wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 17:49
Jupiemx99 wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:44 Untuk kelas lmpv dan harga segitu, mobil ini cukup menjanjikan. Secara umum exterior dan interior lebih unggul dari lmpv lain. Setiap mobil memang ada kelebihan dan kekurangannya. Kalau dilihat harga lmpv lain seperti avanza, mobilio, ertiga kelihatannya overpriced. Tapi mereka main dengan diskon. Dan diskonnya cukup besar. Saya gak yakin x pander bisa ngasih diskon besar. Kemungkinan harganya naik. Indentnya juga lumayan panjang.
Ini imho aja ya.. :big_peace:
Iya merek lain harga price list nya ga real ada diskon besar.

Kalau dibilang xpander murah sih gak juga yah.
Krn mobil ini teknologi mesin dan transmisi jadul punya.

Mesin xpander sudah ada dari tahun 2005 diluar nama nya mitsubishi colt city car.
Transmisi sendiri 4 at sudah dr tahun 90an punya

Jd duit yg kita keluarkan beli tampilan baru interior dan exterior.

Kaget juga liat kap mesin ada list karet di pinggir ( kaya pintu) , guna nya apa y? Jarang liat mobil jepang ada karet di kap mesin.
Mitsu pake old angine and old tranny buat menekan harga xpander ini kali ya, Kalo ga perlu riset buat new engine and new tranny kan ga perlu ada biaya riset yg harus ditanggung konsumen.

Soal karet di kap mesin fungisnya kurang lebih sama kaya di pintu om, utamanya buat peredaman suara.
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+ juga mencegah turbulen di engine bay nya..
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Dari harga dan interior, saya cocok yg sport, kabin warna cerah ga setaun jg dekil dekil, selisih harga sama ultimate lebih baik beli HU and sound system mumpuni aja.... cmiiw..
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Brozki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 23:31
keretalaut wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 17:49
Jupiemx99 wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:44 Untuk kelas lmpv dan harga segitu, mobil ini cukup menjanjikan. Secara umum exterior dan interior lebih unggul dari lmpv lain. Setiap mobil memang ada kelebihan dan kekurangannya. Kalau dilihat harga lmpv lain seperti avanza, mobilio, ertiga kelihatannya overpriced. Tapi mereka main dengan diskon. Dan diskonnya cukup besar. Saya gak yakin x pander bisa ngasih diskon besar. Kemungkinan harganya naik. Indentnya juga lumayan panjang.
Ini imho aja ya.. :big_peace:
Iya merek lain harga price list nya ga real ada diskon besar.

Kalau dibilang xpander murah sih gak juga yah.
Krn mobil ini teknologi mesin dan transmisi jadul punya.

Mesin xpander sudah ada dari tahun 2005 diluar nama nya mitsubishi colt city car.
Transmisi sendiri 4 at sudah dr tahun 90an punya

Jd duit yg kita keluarkan beli tampilan baru interior dan exterior.

Kaget juga liat kap mesin ada list karet di pinggir ( kaya pintu) , guna nya apa y? Jarang liat mobil jepang ada karet di kap mesin.
Mitsu pake old angine and old tranny buat menekan harga xpander ini kali ya, Kalo ga perlu riset buat new engine and new tranny kan ga perlu ada biaya riset yg harus ditanggung konsumen.

Soal karet di kap mesin fungisnya kurang lebih sama kaya di pintu om, utamanya buat peredaman suara.
And don't forget about the reliability. Penggunaan engine dan tranny yang sudah terbukti handal bertahun-tahun bisa meminimalisir keluhan batch pertama, terutama dari sektor ini (hal yang bisa digunakan sebagai bahan black campaign kompetitor-kompetitornya). Toh dengan ini juga sudah lebih dari cukup untuk kelasnya.

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Mungkin ga ya. apakah gaya mitsu ? tipe sport dikeluarkan varian dengan transmisi manual pada facelift selanjut nya?
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utk mesin 4A91 masih terus diproduksi hingga hari ini........paling banyak diproduksi di pabrik SAME di Liaoning spt nya (krn banyak dipake oleh mobil merek lokal di RRC)

Tentu 4A91 yg skg dibanding yg 2005 juga sudah mengalami penyempurnaan2

Utk matic 4AT mungkin utk pertimbangan biaya pemeliharaan yg ekonomis juga
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Mitsubishi 4A9 engine

The Mitsubishi 4A9 engine is the newest family range of all-alloy inline four-cylinder engines from Mitsubishi Motors, introduced in the 2004 version of their Mitsubishi Colt supermini, and built by DaimlerChrysler-owned MDC Power in Germany (previously a joint venture).[1][2]

The engine project was begun as a joint effort by Mitsubishi Motors and DaimlerChrysler (DCX), with Mitsubishi handling the development of the engines and MDC Power GmbH, a company previously jointly established by Mitsubishi and DCX, handling production. The 4A9 is Mitsubishi's first four-cylinder engine family to adopt a high-pressure die-cast aluminum block.[1][3]

All engines developed within this family have aluminum cylinder block and head, four valves per cylinder, double overhead camshaft layouts, and MIVEC continuous variable valve timing (intake only).

Engine family characteristics
For high output and low fuel consumption, the MIVEC system and other measures (including optimized shaping of the intake and exhaust manifolds and cylinder head) were used to promote intake and exhaust efficiency. Optimally shaped cooling passages in the cylinder head and optimal control of the flow of coolant into the cylinder head help to suppress engine knocking. Comprehensive measures to engine components were taken to minimize friction.[1]

For lightness and compactness; design optimization, material optimization, and component integration were identified as effective means of minimizing weight and bulk, so they were comprehensively effected in combination with each other. With regard to materials, the cylinder block is made of aluminum; the cylinder-head cover and intake manifold are made of plastic; the exhaust manifold has a pipe-based structure and cams driven by a timing chain. Component integration was applied in many areas of the engine. Notably, the functions of engine accessories were integrated into the cylinder block.[1]

Exhaust emissions from the engine are minimized by measures including optimal design of the combustion chambers, optimal control of the intake air motion by means of the cylinder-head ports, employment of the MIVEC system, employment of an ultra-thin cylinder head gasket, and employment of micro-droplet fuel injectors. The vehicle's overall exhaust emissions are further suppressed by location of the exhaust manifold at the rear of the engine. This layout is beneficial since it minimizes the heat capacity of the exhaust system upstream of the catalytic converter and thus, together with combustion control, promotes activation of the catalytic converter.[1]

4A91's DOHC camshafts are driven by a single-stage roller chain of 8.0 mm (0.3 in) pitch and 12.5 mm (0.5 in) width, instead of the previous 4G15's cogged belt drive. Camshafts act directly on bucket-type tappets. The intake camshaft is fitted with a continuously variable cam-phasing, altering timing up to 50 degrees. Valves are inclined at an included angle of 34 degrees versus the 4G15's wider 45 degrees.[3]

4A91
Specifications

Engine type — DOHC 16v, ECI multiple
Displacement — 1499 cc
Bore pitch — 83.0 mm
Bore — 75.0 mm
Stroke — 84.8 mm
Compression ratio — 10.5:1
Power — 109 hp (81 kW; 111 PS) at 6000 rpm
Torque — 145 N·m (107 lb·ft) at 4000 rpm

Applications
2004 Mitsubishi Colt
2007 Mitsubishi Lancer
2004-2006 Smart Forfour
2011 Haima 2
2011 Brilliance fsv
2014 Soueast v3
2016 Yema T70 SUV
2017 Soueast DX3
2017 Mitsubishi Xpander

Dicuplik dari wikipedia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4A9_engine
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Turboman wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:40 utk mesin 4A91 masih terus diproduksi hingga hari ini........paling banyak diproduksi di pabrik SAME di Liaoning spt nya (krn banyak dipake oleh mobil merek lokal di RRC)

Tentu 4A91 yg skg dibanding yg 2005 juga sudah mengalami penyempurnaan2

Utk matic 4AT mungkin utk pertimbangan biaya pemeliharaan yg ekonomis juga
Matic 4AT nya sama kayak inova 2kd AT yah om turbo? Kalo sama berarti kuat dong?
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Wongsuroboyo wrote: Matic 4AT nya sama kayak inova 2kd AT yah om turbo? Kalo sama berarti kuat dong?
Unit matic nya beda lah om... Innova lama kan rearwheel drive...

Xpander front wheel drive gk mungkin matic 4at nya sama... [emoji55] [emoji55] [emoji55]

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Merah type sport modif ala2 sleeper...(ganti velg aja) mantap tuh...
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Sepertinya xpander, mesin 4A91 nya di down spek biar bisa minum premios kali ya mengingat LMPV..
Soalnya di spek luar ternyata dia itu 109HP (111PS) dan 145 nm @4000 (peak torsi beda 1 dengan mobilio)

Harus dikobel berarti :big_love:
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osbertc0ol wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:18 Sepertinya xpander, mesin 4A91 nya di down spek biar bisa minum premios kali ya mengingat LMPV..
Soalnya di spek luar ternyata dia itu 109HP (111PS) dan 145 nm @4000 (peak torsi beda 1 dengan mobilio)

Harus dikobel berarti :big_love:
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soal interior cepet kotor , lapisin sarung jok aja kalo ga kulit yang bludru warna sama cukup bikin aman koq..
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Betul om, kalo kurva torsinya ditarik ke rpm 4000 ya kurang lebih aja sih torsinya ama mitsu. Emang L15Z1nya ahond kan karakternya lebih ke hi revving.
umum itu karakter honda emang biasa di rpm tinggi, power dan torsinya kebantu dari sistem vtec nya juga

4g91 mesin si expander ini wajar pake mesin dari taun 2004an .., secara ga perlu ada biaya develop lagi , dan spare part produk nya udah banyak di produksi , di colt sama ex yg 1.5 luar banyak..
dan kalo emang hp nya turun wajar , mapping ecu nya di turunin na biar oktan rendah masih bisa sedikit aman terutama di daerah2 pedalaman ..
4at nya mirip2 sama 4a/t dari mitsubishi grandis cuman dengan ratio berbeda ..
sayang yah sebenernya kalo dia 5 a/t sih lebih baik lagi , tapi ya sudah lah demi harga yg terjangkau ..

yg sedikit gw sayangin .. keknya bakal banyak juga uber yg berdar pake mobil ini .. .
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Sudah ada yg coba manual nya?exceed manual terutama