Transmisi Bermasalah, Toyota: Ini Tidak Berhubungan dengan Safety dan Kualitas

[BeBeQ289]

Maaf mau tanya, apa keluhan ini berlaku juga buat mesin bensin?

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[Li0s]

Terlalu yah toyota
Selama ini padahal sy incer toyota karena mobil mobilnya terkenal badak dan ass ny jempolan
Yah walopun musti conpare dengan fitur yg agak trondol dengan harga yang didapat. Ya kalo gini kepercayaan jadi luntur. Image pelayanan aftersales oke sudah gag lagi didapat. Capedeh

[ChZ]

Terlalu yah toyota
Selama ini padahal sy incer toyota karena mobil mobilnya terkenal badak dan ass ny jempolan
Yah walopun musti conpare dengan fitur yg agak trondol dengan harga yang didapat. Ya kalo gini kepercayaan jadi luntur. Image pelayanan aftersales oke sudah gag lagi didapat. Capedeh

Memang badak koq oom... Konsumen hanya perlu edukasi saja...



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[nyotnyet]

Terlalu yah toyota
Selama ini padahal sy incer toyota karena mobil mobilnya terkenal badak dan ass ny jempolan
Yah walopun musti conpare dengan fitur yg agak trondol dengan harga yang didapat. Ya kalo gini kepercayaan jadi luntur. Image pelayanan aftersales oke sudah gag lagi didapat. Capedeh

Memang badak koq oom... Konsumen hanya perlu edukasi saja...



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Bener kok badak, coba aja naik badak, pasti jendul lompat2...ga bisa smooth...


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[DOHC]

Bener kok badak, coba aja naik badak, pasti jendul lompat2...ga bisa smooth...


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ternyata mapia dah perna "naekin" user BADAK yg dr jatim...

serem lhar...

[nyotnyet]

Bener kok badak, coba aja naik badak, pasti jendul lompat2...ga bisa smooth...


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ternyata mapia dah perna "naekin" user BADAK yg dr jatim...

serem lhar...

Kayanya salah ngomong nih....hahaha


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[d1226my]

Udah di re-map pake firmware 2300 gak ada efek

Orang BeRes nya sampe bingung

Saya Andre (Bandung)

ANKI tipe G 2GD AT
Masalah yang tiba tiba terjadi pada saat odometer baru mencapai posisi 106 km saja
Serah terima pengiriman unit tgl 11 Oktober 2016 odo di km 58
Sejak dikirim pemakaian pribadi hanya 48 km.. masalah terjadi tgl 27 Oktober 2016 saat odo 106 km
Nopol resmi diterima tgl 24 Oktober.. jadi sebelum nopol resmi keluar itu hanya dipakai sekitaran rumah - isi bbm - isi angin ban saja

Masalah seperti ini:
Saat mau dimundurkan tongkat perseneling dipindah ke R selama bbrp detik yang sangat singkat (dibawah 5 detik) di display masi ada tulisan R lalu tiba tiba indikator posisi itu hilang.. pedal rem masi saya injak

selang beberapa detik sesudahnya ada jedukan yang sangat keras sampai dipikir nubruk tembok atau pintu rumah. lantai tempat mobil diparkir keramik dan posisi basah sehabis hujan sehingga sampai ada spin sebentar dari ban belakang

dicoba mobil dikeluarkan dari rumah.. maju sepertinya tidak ada masalah.. (atau belum ketauan lagi)
dimasukan gigi mundur lagi.. tidak ada respon - mobil tidak mulai melaju mundur selama bbrp detik walaupun rem dan gas tidak diinjak sama sekali.. setelah bbrp detik terjadi jeduk lagi yang sama

dicoba sekali lagi di posisi jalan yang agak menurun sedikit.. dipindah ke gigi mundur rem dan gas tidak diinjak.. mobil terbawa maju karena jalan menurun dan selang bbrp detik jeduk lagi baru mundur

Didatangi Kepala bengkel dan TL dari dealer tempat pengambilan unit pada tgl 28 Oktober sore setelah proses kontak kontakan yang cukup ribet dengan support bantuan sangat banyak dari rekan rekan yang mobilnya mengalami masalah juga

direset ecu (dilepas kabel - lalu dipasang kembali setelah bbrp menit)
reflash transmisi dari laptop yang dibawa mereka naik ke V2300 (bawaan mobil V2200) masalah masih tetap ada tidak ada perubahan sama sekali
Posisi mobil tidak keluar dari garasi . Posisi sampai sekarang masi di 106 km

Ada kontak dari CR TAM Jakarta mau datang ke Bandung bertemu untuk membicarakan masalah ini

Salam JEDUKKKKKK

[andyez86]

Yaaa.....gmna yah TAM ga pernah salah kan..ini ga berhubungan sm safety dan kualitas (katanya)...btw ANKI saia di parkiran mall td jedugg jg,agk lompat gt hampir sundul mbl d dpn...tp krn TAM blg ga berhubungan sama safety paling bsk saia nambah asuransi jiwa aja..

[nyotnyet]

Dann...ada kabar dari temen kalo ada calya yg klaim jedug juga di jkt...


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[ChZ]

Kalo di US problem paling marak itu accelerator stuck...

Mungkin di Indon ntar paling marak accelerator stuck + JEDUG.



Di US sudah sampe lawsuit karena makan korban jiwa dan Atoyot dipaksa recall semua unitnya...

Disini? Nunggu korban jiwa dulu kah kl sampe tu sudden acceleration terjadi dan nubruk pedestrian/tukang parkir yang lagi kasih aba-aba...? Ah paling ntar ngeles "konsumen perlu edukasi" lagi...

[nyotnyet]

Kalo di US problem paling marak itu accelerator stuck...

Mungkin di Indon ntar paling marak accelerator stuck + JEDUG.



Di US sudah sampe lawsuit karena makan korban jiwa dan Atoyot dipaksa recall semua unitnya...

Disini? Nunggu korban jiwa dulu kah kl sampe tu sudden acceleration terjadi dan nubruk pedestrian/tukang parkir yang lagi kasih aba-aba...? Ah paling ntar ngeles "konsumen perlu edukasi" lagi...

"Kami sudah cek, itu pedal akselerator dibuat reboundnya lebih lambat supaya customer lebih pede waktu mendahului, itu cuma perlu edukasi"

"Karpetnya terlalu tebal jadi nyangkut"
"Itu fitur baru auto accelerator yang tidak kami sebutkan, karna kami selalu memberi kejutan lebih dibanding kompetitor kami"

Hahahahahaha


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[haristk7]

https://www.tsikot.com/forums/toyota-ca ... dex47.html

Forum otomotif Filipina,ini saya quote beberapa post dari halaman web tersebut

According to toyota a certain pioneer batch of 2016 that is experiencing shift shock is due to small valve body of the transmission solenoids they accumulate pressure due to its size. daw. They have adjusted the the size and made it bigger of the new replacement transmission that has been shipped in, they said it will shift smoother and will eliminate the pressure that is causing the shift shock. Kudos for toyota's after sales for having a fix right away other brands like ford will leave you "found on the road dead"

by Monserato June 24th, 2016

yes, Toyota has confirmed that there is indeed a tranny problem and ordering will be 15 working days. replacement takes about 2-3 days and it has a different part number. if not, they are also launching a software update by august 2016 to help solve the problem. at least , they recognize the problem and doing something about it.

by fireblade June 24th, 2016

Dari Top Gear Filipina http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/industry ... 6-20160624

With the launch of the new Toyota Fortuner--with its more efficient 2.8-liter diesel engine and upgraded six-speed automatic transmission--we've been hearing (and receiving) some complaints about jerkiness or “shift shock” in the gearbox. This more commonly occurs when slowing down in Sport mode, as the transmission downshifts, but can also occur during upshifts or normal operation in other modes. Often happening at the 35kph shift point (and sometimes at 80kph), it is sometimes mild, sometimes annoying, and in some cases harsh.

Dan ini dari forum Fortuner Australia, mesin 2.8 Diesel 6AT https://www.fortunerforum.com.au/forum/ ... hift-shock

Hi Matt, I think I have the same issue too. This happened to me when I was driving from Blackheath to Katoomba. While travelling at 70km/h -ish, when I was just about to go downhill, the transmission suddenly (probably detecting a reduction of RPM due to steep incline) shifts down too much until it felt like 3rd gear. This is potentially dangerous if the road is slippery, or if there was a vehicle close behind. I also highlighted this "smart transmission" issue in an earlier thread 'Engine Braking'.

i found a way to "minimise" this effect by maintaining speed at least for the initial downhill, although it doesn't work all the time. I know it sounds crazy because many times we just want to go slow downhill for engine braking or when we're towing. I hope Toyota could provide a fix for this (Hello Toyota Australia, you read this?) , ECU re-programming whatever it may be.

By Kiat, 26-06-2016

The "SHIFT SHOCK" issue is quite common in the Philippines Fortuner. The fortuners in the Philippines are made in Indonesia rather than Thailand. They have fortuners with the GD2's 2.4 diesel and that might be the case. There is a possibility that their gearing is different over there but I will ask a few questions and see what their diff: ratio numbers are. There was a transmission software upgrade recently and there were no complaints after that.

By cheekydonkey 18-08-2016

baru nemu itu aja sih setelah saya coba cari di negeri tetangga...

[shama]

permasalah yang sama di nissan juke ane dan ford secara garasinya miring jadi yg mesti pindah ke n trus tarik hand brake agak ngeden bru pindah ke p.supaya gak jedug.....tapi ane ga sempat hubungi dealer secara waktu itu belum ada showroom nissan di mari.

[flamboyan]

Slogan Toyota Global saat ini:

"Jedug with Sudden Acceleration for Your Sensation"

[Thio]

Kasihan amat nasib customer Toyota di Indo. Sungguh tidak bertanggung jawab dan semena2 perlakuan produsennya. Apa karena mobil murah kaya innova dan fortune jadinya kurang digubris?

[silentIm2]

Kasihan amat nasib customer Toyota di Indo. Sungguh tidak bertanggung jawab dan semena2 perlakuan produsennya. Apa karena mobil murah kaya innova dan fortune jadinya kurang digubris?

Inilah hasil kalo customer ga kritis, serba nrima brand image dan ASS yg sebenarnya masih bagusan bengkel spesialis. Astra sebagai dominant manufacturer mulai arogan.

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[Turboman]

Kasihan amat nasib customer Toyota di Indo. Sungguh tidak bertanggung jawab dan semena2 perlakuan produsennya. Apa karena mobil murah kaya innova dan fortune jadinya kurang digubris?

definisi mobil murah itu kelas harga brp ya om

apakah mayoritas rakyat Indonesia mampu beli mobil 340 - 490 jt ??

[grimjow]

Liat video Om Turboman, yang nomor 2, agak seram juga...
Kirain abis jedug bakal berubah jadi autobots / decepticon.
Itu sih jelas masalah di mobil, bukan karena customer ga tahu cara pakai mobil / ECU yang ga beres.


Kasian amat ya jadi customer di Indonesia.
Dari komunitas yang sempet curhat ke Toyota langsung, apakah tidak ada follow up dari ATPM?

[Mozawa]

https://www.tsikot.com/forums/toyota-ca ... dex47.html

Forum otomotif Filipina,ini saya quote beberapa post dari halaman web tersebut

According to toyota a certain pioneer batch of 2016 that is experiencing shift shock is due to small valve body of the transmission solenoids they accumulate pressure due to its size. daw. They have adjusted the the size and made it bigger of the new replacement transmission that has been shipped in, they said it will shift smoother and will eliminate the pressure that is causing the shift shock. Kudos for toyota's after sales for having a fix right away other brands like ford will leave you "found on the road dead"

by Monserato June 24th, 2016

yes, Toyota has confirmed that there is indeed a tranny problem and ordering will be 15 working days. replacement takes about 2-3 days and it has a different part number. if not, they are also launching a software update by august 2016 to help solve the problem. at least , they recognize the problem and doing something about it.

by fireblade June 24th, 2016

Dari Top Gear Filipina http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/industry ... 6-20160624

With the launch of the new Toyota Fortuner--with its more efficient 2.8-liter diesel engine and upgraded six-speed automatic transmission--we've been hearing (and receiving) some complaints about jerkiness or “shift shock” in the gearbox. This more commonly occurs when slowing down in Sport mode, as the transmission downshifts, but can also occur during upshifts or normal operation in other modes. Often happening at the 35kph shift point (and sometimes at 80kph), it is sometimes mild, sometimes annoying, and in some cases harsh.

Dan ini dari forum Fortuner Australia, mesin 2.8 Diesel 6AT https://www.fortunerforum.com.au/forum/ ... hift-shock

Hi Matt, I think I have the same issue too. This happened to me when I was driving from Blackheath to Katoomba. While travelling at 70km/h -ish, when I was just about to go downhill, the transmission suddenly (probably detecting a reduction of RPM due to steep incline) shifts down too much until it felt like 3rd gear. This is potentially dangerous if the road is slippery, or if there was a vehicle close behind. I also highlighted this "smart transmission" issue in an earlier thread 'Engine Braking'.

i found a way to "minimise" this effect by maintaining speed at least for the initial downhill, although it doesn't work all the time. I know it sounds crazy because many times we just want to go slow downhill for engine braking or when we're towing. I hope Toyota could provide a fix for this (Hello Toyota Australia, you read this?) , ECU re-programming whatever it may be.

By Kiat, 26-06-2016

The "SHIFT SHOCK" issue is quite common in the Philippines Fortuner. The fortuners in the Philippines are made in Indonesia rather than Thailand. They have fortuners with the GD2's 2.4 diesel and that might be the case. There is a possibility that their gearing is different over there but I will ask a few questions and see what their diff: ratio numbers are. There was a transmission software upgrade recently and there were no complaints after that.

By cheekydonkey 18-08-2016

baru nemu itu aja sih setelah saya coba cari di negeri tetangga...

BUSET DAH....berarti cacat jedug itu karena VALVE BODY TRANSMISI innova/unfortuner yg terlalu kecil ukurannya??

pasti nanti pihak tam mengatakan hanya masalah EDUKASI saja.

[d1226my]

Kasihan amat nasib customer Toyota di Indo. Sungguh tidak bertanggung jawab dan semena2 perlakuan produsennya. Apa karena mobil murah kaya innova dan fortune jadinya kurang digubris?

definisi mobil murah itu kelas harga brp ya om

apakah mayoritas rakyat Indonesia mampu beli mobil 340 - 490 jt ??

setuju om.. buat kita dirumah ANKI G AT Diesel yang lagi troubled ini udah cukup mahal ...
unit lain dirumah IPAH D4D G AT 2010
Lalu ada pula IPAH D4D V AT 2011

Walau sekarang baru nambah unit innova kita ikutin terus kenaikan harga innova

Untuk pengmbilan ANKI pertimbangan ambil G karena ke V perbedaan harganya berasa... G di ANKI ini dibanding V yang ada dirumah sudah jauh lebi banyak fasilitasnya jadi kita rasa sudah cukup ambil G aja.. keperluan saya dan ortu untuk pemakaian mobil tercukupi semua dari tipe G tanpa harus beli V

kadang prinsip saya just because you could does not mean you should. secukupnya saja tidak usa berlebihan

[silverlining]

Ane seorg newbie SR di forum tercinta Serayamotor ini.
Cb baca thread ini penyakit ini melebar ke Aussie dan Filipina bahkan td ada Calya dicurigai sama.
Mohon info apakah sampe hr ini kasus transmisi ini ada yg kena ke Sienta?

[Turboman]

Ane seorg newbie SR di forum tercinta Serayamotor ini.
Cb baca thread ini penyakit ini melebar ke Aussie dan Filipina bahkan td ada Calya dicurigai sama.
Mohon info apakah sampe hr ini kasus transmisi ini ada yg kena ke Sienta?

Sienta sih belom denger apa2 ya

mudah2 an sih bagus lah dan jangan ada problem

[ChZ]

CVT bisa jedug iz good... Teknologi terbaru dari Toyota...

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[3mul]

Liat video Om Turboman, yang nomor 2, agak seram juga...
Kirain abis jedug bakal berubah jadi autobots / decepticon.
Itu sih jelas masalah di mobil, bukan karena customer ga tahu cara pakai mobil / ECU yang ga beres.


Kasian amat ya jadi customer di Indonesia.
Dari komunitas yang sempet curhat ke Toyota langsung, apakah tidak ada follow up dari ATPM?

Ehm... bukan komunitas tapi grup user ANKI-ANF.
Follow up ada, kita disuruh mampir ke beres terdekat dan dilakukan tes jalan. Ada juga yg didatangin teknisi ke rumah.
Waktu tes jalan, jeduknya halus so.. dianggap "wajar" dan turbo putu juga kedengaran samar2 doang berhub mesin panas & lingkungan yg berisik. Jadi ga di apa2in. Seminggu kemudian mobil baru dipake lagi dan...jeduk mayan keras 3 kali dlm jarak 500 meter

[artoodetoo]

Nah, apakah konsumen cukup berani untuk boikot, tidak lagi beli ANF dan ANKI?
Om Ginting sudah memulai. Kalau gerakan ini cukup masif, pasti TAM bakal mikir juga.
Saya juga sudah pasti tidak akan beli ANKI dan ANF.

*nek itu karena gak punya duit Dul *keplak