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"EU have noted Brexit to be followed by:
Grexit.
Departugal.
Italeave.
Fruckoff.
Czechout.
Oustria.
Finish.
Slovlong.
Latervia.
Byegium.

Until EU reach the state of Germlonely."

Germalone or Germaining is more appropriate
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Ha ha ha ... is this for real? Where the hell did u get those? :mky_02:
iwidiyanto wrote:"EU have noted Brexit to be followed by:
Grexit.
Departugal.
Italeave.
Fruckoff.
Czechout.
Oustria.
Finish.
Slovlong.
Latervia.
Byegium.

Until EU reach the state of Germlonely."

Germalone or Germaining is more appropriate
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selama 2 tahun ke depan sesuai article 50 Lisbon itu buat nego syarat2 nya UK keluar ... apalagi nanti yang mimpin nego bukan David Cameron, tauk tuh jadinya gimana ...

tanggapannya PM2 di EU udah ga enak semua komentarnya ... soalnya Euroskeptic di masing2 negara udah koar2 ...

sebenernya klo liat pengungsi araber itu disini, sebagian besar sepertinya datang dari kalangan cukup lho, buktinya pada pegang iphone 6 / samsung s7 waktu datang, sebagian besar bisa bicara bahasa Inggris lumayan fasih ... malah salah satu Iraqi yang saya kenal dulu ex student di London (biaya sendiri bukan beasiswa) ...

sekarang disini klo cukur rambut di salon2 yang ownernya Iraqi lebih murah dibanding salon2 punya bule, rata2 10-15 euro ... kadang suka dikasih bonus pijit juga klo udah langganan
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betul .... unscheduled meeting tonite .... starting now
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newrubble wrote:betul .... unscheduled meeting tonite .... starting now
Bener tebakan saya, selamat meeting om. :off_good_job:
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kira-kira ada efeknya bagi pelajar ga yah? yang menerima beasiswa contohnya.
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dieselman228 wrote:kira-kira ada efeknya bagi pelajar ga yah? yang menerima beasiswa contohnya.
ini ada artikel bagus dr BBC buat kepastian para mahasiswa, pekerja, turis, dll. kayaknya ga terpengaruh. semoga membantu

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887
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http://www.vox.com/2016/6/24/12025514/brexit-cartoon


kalau bc ini, beratny justru kbnykn d UK nya drpd pihak EU.
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kalo kita bicara modern brit cultural anthropology .... mrk itu labour unionship society

mrk tdk suka dgn immigrants yg datang n bangun ethnical communal societies ..... south asian .... araber ..... jewish n skrg ini yg paling ganggu ......

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Walah..
Mimpi ane adlh menghabiskan hari tua di salah 1 european country, uk comes first, germany on 2nd..
Dgn brexit ini, impian ane makin dekat apa makin jauh ya..
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anehnya anak muda UK pada banyak yang pengen Remain ... apa yang mereka lihat yah dari Remain ?

free school, bebas pilih univ se EU ? atau ada hal lain ?
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unemployment package lbh menarik (jgn tanya detail)

education quality itu pasti incl.student benefits

business easiness

lower crime rate

flexi cultural integration (di UK kalo immigrant stay dua thn blm bs bhs inggeris bisa kena deportation)

better healthcare
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Dari yang saya tau memang yang vote leave kebanyakan isunya menolak imigran yang mulai makan banyak lapangan kerja di Inggris. Kelas-kelas pekerja yang merasa lapangan kerjanya diembat imigran. Sepertinya buat warga uni eropa sebelumnya gak sulit buat cari kerja di Inggris walaupun untuk pekerjaan yang kelasnya di bawah manajer. Kalau Indo kan kalau non-indo citizen bisa kerja di indo (resminya) kalau jabatannya min. manajer atau skillnya emang spesialis yang "langka".

Btw, OOT dikit, somehow saya kepikiran kalau Indo ada model vote leave dari ASEAN, bisa aja banyak yang vote leave karena ngira bisa ngusir singaporean/malaysian dari Indo dengan itu.
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James Bond sekarang mesti apply visa sebelum bertugas.
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spartacus wrote:Dari yang saya tau memang yang vote leave kebanyakan isunya menolak imigran yang mulai makan banyak lapangan kerja di Inggris. Kelas-kelas pekerja yang merasa lapangan kerjanya diembat imigran. Sepertinya buat warga uni eropa sebelumnya gak sulit buat cari kerja di Inggris walaupun untuk pekerjaan yang kelasnya di bawah manajer. Kalau Indo kan kalau non-indo citizen bisa kerja di indo (resminya) kalau jabatannya min. manajer atau skillnya emang spesialis yang "langka".

Btw, OOT dikit, somehow saya kepikiran kalau Indo ada model vote leave dari ASEAN, bisa aja banyak yang vote leave karena ngira bisa ngusir singaporean/malaysian dari Indo dengan itu.
bukannya di malaysia yg banyak tki ktia disana... :mky_04: kalo pulang itu 1 juta tki mampus juga tuh jokowi pusing
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octafiantos wrote:James Bond sekarang mesti apply visa sebelum bertugas.
berdasar immigration act of 1971 tetap visa free apalagi UK EU EEA trikat visa deal siapapun govt official dr manapun diantara mrk travel inside their zone must hold diplomatic visa

ini yg bikin iri parliamentarian members dr indo apalagi skrg ini sejak 2010.01.01 timor leste citizens trmsk uk non-nationals visa free policy
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martinnn wrote:
bukannya di malaysia yg banyak tki ktia disana... kalo pulang itu 1 juta tki mampus juga tuh jokowi pusing
lsg under contract from dir.gen.taxation for massive tax collection door 2 door ..... reposession n arresting anyone resists

bekali mrk parang spy mrk tdk lg pulang 'tinggal nama' (tapi malah bikin org lain lifeless)

seru itu kalo nonton dr jauh sini
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newrubble wrote:
octafiantos wrote:James Bond sekarang mesti apply visa sebelum bertugas.
berdasar immigration act of 1971 tetap visa free apalagi UK EU EEA trikat visa deal siapapun govt official dr manapun diantara mrk travel inside their zone must hold diplomatic visa

ini yg bikin iri parliamentarian members dr indo apalagi skrg ini sejak 2010.01.01 timor leste citizens trmsk uk non-nationals visa free policy
Indo passport power index rank 69 ... timor leste rank 46 incl. free schengen
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sejak keluarnya uk denger denger isu rasisme menguat lagi disana kepada kaum black dan slavic apa hubungannya ya kan yg kemaren vote itu kebanyakan kaum tua kok kaum mudanya yang marah marah di jalanan
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indo itu proud nation ..... cut off tie with ex colonial masters ..... looted all assets of 'em

requested standing side by side equal ...n they then followed all such request ..... indo has then been treated at same level of advancement

all goods originated from indo are subject to full import duty and students from indo subject to full tuition without hosting govt subsidies .... etcetera

timot leste has used so called (my terminology) street begging diplomacy .... asking excemptions from many european countries and therefore any timorese:

-studying in any european schoolings until uni shall be treated same as locals including (free) tuition n accommodation policies. on condition entry (transit) from portugal first before continue journey to particular place

-entering european countries for biz n pleasure may enjoy visa free after transit from portugal

-any goods originated from timor leste be considered as porto local products if trans ship in any porto sea/airport prior final distribution in europe

-political parties in timor leste required to establish at least loose cling with any political party in europe

-ECB shall maintain or improve health level of timor leste financial system through porto central bank

mana mau indo spt bgitu ..... lebih baik miskin n ujan batu drpd idup terhina tapi terjamin dibantu
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newrubble wrote:indo itu proud nation ..... cut off tie with ex colonial masters ..... looted all assets of 'em

requested standing side by side equal ...n they then followed all such request ..... indo has then been treated at same level of advancement

all goods originated from indo are subject to full import duty and students from indo subject to full tuition without hosting govt subsidies .... etcetera

timot leste has used so called (my terminology) street begging diplomacy .... asking excemptions from many european countries and therefore any timorese:

-studying in any european schoolings until uni shall be treated same as locals including (free) tuition n accommodation policies. on condition entry (transit) from portugal first before continue journey to particular place

-entering european countries for biz n pleasure may enjoy visa free after transit from portugal

-any goods originated from timor leste be considered as porto local products if trans ship in any porto sea/airport prior final distribution in europe

-political parties in timor leste required to establish at least loose cling with any political party in europe

-ECB shall maintain or improve health level of timor leste financial system through porto central bank

mana mau indo spt bgitu ..... lebih baik miskin n ujan batu drpd idup terhina tapi terjamin dibantu
Lalu return favor nya apa dr timor leste Om?
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ya sama ..... no import duty on european imported items with B/L issued in porto ports

no visa for anyone coming from europe and transit in porto

plus leste central bank must absorb pre-euro porto's currency in exchange govt of leste must issue 50yr govt bonds in equal value for the benefit of ECB and pay coupon thereof on periodical base .... ECB shall then aid leste govt by sending cash (in usd) equal to the total amount of such bonds (conditional liquidity grant)

dulu bukan sy yg bikin agreement tapi sy kebagian tugas pre signing final draft revision di lisbon y2k

(sy ingat itu event ssdh unesco sponsored world purcussion music festival 'sacred rhytm' di bali n sy jadi inhouse attorney nya)
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Baru baca2 di forum sebelah, ada analisa agak non mainstream, mungkinkah sektor finansial Indonesia dari dulu jadi salah satu tujuan "gelap" dari institusi2 money laundering internasional? Mgk Indo bukan tax heaven state tapi bisa jadi money laundering state mengingat begitu longgar & ramahnya kpd duit/investasi asing, dan terbukti selalu saja bisa mengundang datangnya duit2 milyaran usd per bulan, walau ekonominya sedang demam kronis sejak dekade2 lalu. Dibandingkan dgn Venezuela, Saudi yg sama2 kaya tapi ga semudah Indonesia mendatangkan duit "bulanan".
Oper mik ke Senior2 yg mgk pada punya pandangan lain.
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@denmas8

Maaf om, tapi kalau untuk money laundering bukannya lebih mudah ke Singapore? Setau saya bikin perusahaan di singapura itu mudah sekali, sehari bisa beres, paling ada ketentuan untuk direksi harus ada orang lokalnya, tapi koreksi kalau salah ya. Jadi mau bikin perusahaan kosong atau holding tidak sulit.

Naro dana di sing banks juga mudah. Indo malah banyakan regulasi untuk perbankan, setor diatas 100jt mesti declare sumber duitnya dari mana. Instrumen investasinya juga ga banyak, paling saham, obligasi, sukuk, dll. (saya mikir instrumen invest buat money laundering macam CDO dan lain2nya kaya di US).

Dibilang ramah sama uang atau investasi juga gak. Kalau mau bikin PMA minimal modal 1juta US. Belum regulasi sama perijinan yang seabrek, perburuhannya juga ribet. Yang ramah presidennya doang buat bujuk investor.

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On the other note, mungkin mau tanya sama om @newrubble . Mungkin gak diadain referendum kedua soal Brexit? karena berita2 yang ada sepertinya banyak yang kecewa dan merasa dibohongi dengan kampanye kubu "Leave". Terakhir, banyak yang kesal karena dana iuran ke EU ternyata ga bisa langsung dialokasikan ke National Health Servicenya UK, padahal dulu kampanyenya tim "Leave" kaya gitu.
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Sampai2 sepakbola jg di politisasi, timnas inggris brexit di europe cup.. vs negaranya om nr yg luasnya cm 1/6 kota jakarta, penduduk ga sampe 500rb..hehe tbw, slow clap nya iceland pas celebrate keren euy..