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http://oto.detik.com/read/2016/02/19/10 ... yang-sulit

IMHO :
Utk merek ini ane pribadi sih cukup optimis mereka akan bertahan, prinsipal mereka punya ambisi tinggi utk menjadi pemain besar dunia

Cuman ane heran aja sudah sekian lama mereka di ASEAN masih aja jadi anak bawang melulu, masih belum ada strategy yg "Jozzzzz" utk membuat mobil yg sesuai dgn pasar ASEAN & mengobrak abrik dominasi Dai Nippon di ASEAN

Beda banget dengan konco2-nya yg bermain di bidang elektronik & industri baja.......mobil2 Jepun yg dibuat di ASEAN banyak yg pelat baja nya beli dari si "P S C"
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Izin tinggalin jejak dulu....

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indirect to topic ...

kalo ada yg bilang (kalo tdk ada ya tdk apa) ... posco hebat jadi steel vendor asean born japs

sy akan bilang ... that jap is always good in bailing out away from.... cartel definition

outsiders might (bukan ... may) see ... korean steels (read: posco).have been metalizing its asean products

few see ... behind posco (hari ini trading) ... there are :
5.083% direct shareholding under nippon steel n sumitomo metal.corp..(affiliated to tyt) ;
1.01% indirect nominee under mckenzie nominee for tyt.affiliation
2.02+% indirect tyt nominee.under saudia. ma..investment mgmt (danareksa nya negeri.unta ... biasa dipakai financial combatants (istilah sy).sbg special purpose vehicle ... in high compliance market zones)
3% (yg ini sy tdk tau persis krn per 2015.12) indirect nominee.for various jap agencies under nat'l pension service of korea dlm bentuk ... trust account

vs

8.31% pure korean ownership

nah itu controlling shareholder map of posco today ... yg kecil ada di floors ya mostly dia lagi dia lagi
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Kayaknya pasar sini susah banget ya dipenetrasi sama non-japs brand.
Ane pribadi sebenarnya ga liat itu brand dari negara mana, yg penting: kenyamanan, reliability, performance, style & harga masuk kantong. RV, ASS bagus mah bonus. Ane tau mobil2 korea itu nyaman n performance udah mulai kejar japs tapi ane ga berani ambil karena track record reliability mesinnya yg belum bagus (kecuali yg kerjasama dgn japs dulu spt sephia or trajet). 5-10 taun lagi mungkin beli brand korea kalo ada improvement di sisi ini.
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Gosipnya Hyundai Indonesia owned by Bimantoro group, jadi Hyundai Global ga ambil pusing jualan laku ala ga di Indo. Mungkin karena itu mereka ga all out di Indo, ga masukin veloster,
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3mul wrote:Kayaknya pasar sini susah banget ya dipenetrasi sama non-japs brand.
Ane pribadi sebenarnya ga liat itu brand dari negara mana, yg penting: kenyamanan, reliability, performance, style & harga masuk kantong. RV, ASS bagus mah bonus. Ane tau mobil2 korea itu nyaman n performance udah mulai kejar japs tapi ane ga berani ambil karena track record reliability mesinnya yg belum bagus (kecuali yg kerjasama dgn japs dulu spt sephia or trajet). 5-10 taun lagi mungkin beli brand korea kalo ada improvement di sisi ini.

siapa bilang buktinya brg elektronik udah korea mendominasi di indonesia , masalah mobil itu lebih kompleks karena harganya sangat mahal dan juga banyak yg beli mobil pake # Cicilan Kridit............ :mky_07: :wkkk: ini mempersulit penetrasi pasar otomotif
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pt hyundai indonesia itu ada 99.74% bina cakra niaga (bambang trihatmodjo) krn itu panji adhikumoro (29).ada dalam board membership sejak 2014

seperti juga dia punya grandauto dinamika.(under nominee JLS dan DM)
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Kalo di India hyundai ada di posisi 2 ya dibawah Suzuki
Toyota ma Honda kalah...

Kenapa di India mereka bisa maju? Apa lebih dulu masuk di banding mobil2 jepun selain si juki?
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Indonesia sih susah meruntuhkan brand2 yg udah terlalu dominan, kecualu emang tuh brand ancur secara global ya.
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hyundai baru masuk india thn 96 saat disana baru ada 6 brands dg maruti suzuki sbg lead market

wkt itu maruti suzuki hanya ada dua lineup px n satu commercial ... indo buat suzuki masih global primadona u developing market seperti usa u premium

sementara u hyundai indo juga main destination developing market ... bahkan hanya di indo hyundai bersedia rebrand bimantara (arya-h100 , cakra , nenggala) ... krn itu mrk mulai CKD 1994 bersamaan dg apec summit

bimantara sbg brand mrk batalkan 2003 ... dulu sy diminta batalkan n sy lakukan itu dg bantuan ibu ratnawati widjaja ... yg sempat lama jadi direktur perdata department kehakiman indo
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Sama saya juga yakin akan ambisi Hyundai di otomotif global. Untuk pasar ASEAN Hyundai harus merancang mobil khusus Indonesia di segmen LMPV seperti yang dilakukan oleh brand Jepang beberapa dekade lalu. Nissan dengan Grand Livina sejak tahun 2007 dan Mitsubishi come back dengan next LMPV di 2017. Saya dengar dan pernah baca bahwa ini akan dilakukan oleh Ford global. Sayang keburu gulung tikar duluan hmmm.
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ford brand besar dan punya source bagus syg penjualan di indonesia gak bagus karena harga terlalu mahal main di 300 juta keatas .kalau jujur mungkin mobil ford banyak yg gagal bayar # cicilan kredit ini salah satu faktor yg bikin hengkang tambah lagi banyak pungli gak resmi makin bingung
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knp us brands susah jaman skrg direct invest indo

krn US foreign corrupt practices act yg makin galak n makin tdk kenal kompromi bikin us manufacturers susah u bergerak di offline informal state(s).macam indo

tdkmgkn business di indo atau selevel indo itu tanpa (arabics bilang) baqashish / rashuah ... apalagi mrk smua adalah stock exchanges listed companies .... hrs full financial statement transparency ... ini u apa itu u apa

mrk lbh suka

southkorean / zhonghuan JV partners yg masuk n or fabricating in high risk state(s)

or

local automotive trading house & paralel importer(s) macam garansindo atau ivanmotor jualan brands n lineups mrk ....

cukup mrk.itu dipakaikan "baju" seolah brand holder agencies (pdhl hanya terikat in-country exclusive brand sales and aftersales agreement) ... renewable every 10yr term with "principal option to ... early termination subject to bona fide.evidence in any event of gross violation by thr indonesian party to this agreement ...." (ini sy quote dr satu agreement u jualan US brand yg masih jalan di indo ....mobil sekeras batu yg dijual seharga batu permata)
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DancingFate wrote:Kalo di India hyundai ada di posisi 2 ya dibawah Suzuki
Toyota ma Honda kalah...

Kenapa di India mereka bisa maju? Apa lebih dulu masuk di banding mobil2 jepun selain si juki?
mungkin karena bemain kelas tanggung, contoh ngeluarin i10 / i20 saat Honda dan toyo cuman punya jazz yaris yang paling murah (brio belum keluar), tentu i10 lebih murah lebih laku. sekarang honda mulai ngejar dengan brio nya.
di india juga mobil2 suzuki tahun 90an masih dijual sebagai brand new, sama seperti disini sih tapi bukan cuman pickup aja mobil lawas yg dijual disana
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hrsnya u investment highrisk countries spt indo ... zimbabwe ... iran ...

cukup lakukan CKD / full manufacturing spt mazda mr90 (m323 mk.1) ... mitsi L300 (delica minitruck mk.2) ... suzuki mehran (maruti800) ... morgan 4/4

hyundai? husus org indo yg mau terliat kaya n mau keep mobil sampai mati bisa bikin "national car" di indo dgn 1996-2005 hyundai dynasty (mitsi sigma engine platform) ... rebatch kalo perlu
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marzoochi wrote:Dan sekarang Proton gulung tikar?
http://dapurpacu.com/278334/proton-disi ... diam-diam/
Setelah beberapa lama koma akhirnya tak kuat juga... :off_lazy:
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marzoochi wrote:Dan sekarang Proton gulung tikar?
http://dapurpacu.com/278334/proton-disi ... diam-diam/
mungkin ada kaitannya sama restrukturisasi proton yang dikomando drb hicom di malaya sana...

apalagi setelah tahun ini fix mau nyiapin plant baru buat ngerakit ertiga rebadge.

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Kuncinya di Model yang populasinya besar seperti small MPV atau city car dan low SUV yang lagi menanjak.
Tambahan after sales ervice yang fleksibel dan kompetitif bisa jadi momentum untuk brand non Japan.
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Kapok pake hyundai. Gak banget dah sampe kapan pun.
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marzoochi wrote:Dan sekarang Proton gulung tikar?
http://dapurpacu.com/278334/proton-disi ... diam-diam/
bukannya baru mou sama hendropriyono kemarin untuk bkin esemka

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marzoochi wrote:Dan sekarang Proton gulung tikar?
http://dapurpacu.com/278334/proton-disi ... diam-diam/
Di obral di obral, mangga nubade nyubi mobil anyar rasa lotus [emoji12]

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vipere wrote:Kapok pake hyundai. Gak banget dah sampe kapan pun.
Bisa di share om yang membuat kapok ambil hyundai knp, penasaran hehe
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marama wrote:
Bisa di share om yang membuat kapok ambil hyundai knp, penasaran hehe
kalo ada yang share pengalaman mobil korea rewel dsb pasti bentar lagi ada yang syer pengalaman yang kontra, mobilnya enak gak rewel dsb..,
beda sm mobil jepang, biasanya kalo ada yg syer rewel yg lain woles aja malah kadang pada ikutan munculin kekurangannya :mky_01:
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Hyundai model skrg uda mulai oke kok...temen g ada yg pake tucson 2012 masi oke2 aja sampe skrg tanpa masalaberarti...masalanya cuman satu harganya terjun bebas...