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mojacko wrote:saya sejak dulu pecinta sedan, anti MPV,
SUV boleh laa

nih saya lg long trip nyetir E39 saya keliling jawa tengah,

sangat Fun untuk manuver di Pantura,

dan pastinya semua penumpang, termasuk saya tdk ada yg sakit pinggang atau punggung
Wah enak banget ya emang seri 5 anti sakit punggung pinggang wkwkwk....

Kalo kelg ane roadtrip pake E36 bolak balik keliling pantura dulu or E46 di sumatera utara, waduh sakit pinggang semua baik yg nyetir ama yg numpang pas sampe tujuan :mky_07:
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janda2 kembang compact size favorit yg ampe 10thn ke dpan msh bikin malu mbl keluaran baru dg hi price tag n content yg kopong :

*E46/330ci n E90/325i
*w204
----> part n workshop beragam type/hrg
----> reliability > dr euro merk lain, meski slightly blw jap's mid size. P'alaman nge keep n nge restore bbrp, sll ada antithesis utk statement mbl jerman itu rewel n mhl, hv been there.
==============

*civic fd2
------> reliability, dsign, k engine, rear axl indpnt, affordable part, easy maintanance.

diatas nama2 janda kembang yg menarik buat dipinang. murah tp ngga murahan, sec tampilan n content, as a toys atopun daily transport. :mky_02:
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jivos wrote:janda2 kembang compact size favorit yg ampe 10thn ke dpan msh bikin malu mbl keluaran baru dg hi price tag n content yg kopong :

*E46/330ci n E90/325i
*w204
----> part n workshop beragam type/hrg
----> reliability > dr euro merk lain, meski slightly blw jap's mid size. P'alaman nge keep n nge restore bbrp, sll ada antithesis utk statement mbl jerman itu rewel n mhl, hv been there.
==============

*civic fd2
------> reliability, dsign, k engine, rear axl indpnt, affordable part, easy maintanance.

diatas nama2 janda kembang yg menarik buat dipinang. murah tp ngga murahan, sec tampilan n content, as a toys atopun daily transport. :mky_02:
Accord CM7 juga menarik om... malah lebih relayebel dari Civic FD saya rasa. Sayang aja taunnya udah tua itu Accord lebih cocok buat weekend toys.

E90 325i juga favorit saya.... seken udah 400an, menarik buat weekend toys. Yang M-Edition terakhir itu bagus...

Saya kalo daily enak pake mobil kecil macem Jazz aja... kecil tapi ngga terlalu kecil, besar ngga terlalu besar, enak buat bawa orang, barang + blusukan.
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demennya yg compact om,
yg full sized p'alaman pk e39 e60 msh terasa big buat sy yg seharian kdg di jalanan ibukota. accord cm2 td nge mall liat rear lamp merah n putih yg di tengah imo beneran merusak tampilannya sj, accord cm lama lbh nice looking.

asumsi budget ngepas om, yg nyari the one for all purposes, fc jg beda2 dikit ama jazz, kec jandanya jazz murah

under 250mil kondisi mint bkn hal sulit buat e90/325i lci atopun w204 c280, yg fd2 under 200 mlh.
trakhir ane ditawarin subie sti 2013 km 3000 MT cm 240jetia aja :big_biglaugh:
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1. Pajak. Sepertinya yg ngusulin peraturan tsb haters sedan
2. Selera. Mayoritas masyarakat Indonesia masih memilih kapasitas/quantity dibanding kenyamanan/quality. Yg ngomong kenyamanan mpv suv kayak sedan belum pernah nyetir 'sedan beneran'
Calon penghuni garasi:
MPV nyuaman utk bawa keluarga
Hatchback unyu2 buat istri
Sedan lawas mulus untuk mainan
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Saya n anak saya sedan lovers. Skrg masih pakai sedan yg berencana tukerin ke LSUV. Tp kl nantinya ada rejeki, bakal nyimpen sedan seken di garasi utk menunjukkan kecintaan kami thd sedan.
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Hatchback unyu2 buat istri
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buat rally dulu banyak yang pakai sedan dan sekarang banyak yg pake hatchback
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E46, E60 530 stuju.... perna naek, kondisi 2 2 nya mint krn 2 2 owner nya sama2 cinta ama mobil nya.... usia ud tembus 10 tahun tp naikan nya masi blep2, dan 2 2 nya masi rawatan astra dan satu lg BMW authorised service center d melbourne up to this date... dan kl d bejek, ntuh suara erangan mesin plus exhaust nya bener2 eargasm banget...

w204 jg stuju... my all time fav C klasse.... apalagi yg ud pake velg AMG.... bener2 proper saloon bagi ane... ga kegedeaan dan minim jati diri sperti W205 skrg (sorry om kompre.. hehe)....

jivos wrote:janda2 kembang compact size favorit yg ampe 10thn ke dpan msh bikin malu mbl keluaran baru dg hi price tag n content yg kopong :

*E46/330ci n E90/325i
*w204
----> part n workshop beragam type/hrg
----> reliability > dr euro merk lain, meski slightly blw jap's mid size. P'alaman nge keep n nge restore bbrp, sll ada antithesis utk statement mbl jerman itu rewel n mhl, hv been there.
==============

*civic fd2
------> reliability, dsign, k engine, rear axl indpnt, affordable part, easy maintanance.

diatas nama2 janda kembang yg menarik buat dipinang. murah tp ngga murahan, sec tampilan n content, as a toys atopun daily transport. :mky_02:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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kalo yg saya rasain...nyetir mobilio sama grand civic mirip kok feel nya...mobilio jg drive position rendah, body roll minim..
apa saya yg gk normal
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amfibi wrote:
mojacko wrote:saya sejak dulu pecinta sedan, anti MPV,
SUV boleh laa

nih saya lg long trip nyetir E39 saya keliling jawa tengah,

sangat Fun untuk manuver di Pantura,

dan pastinya semua penumpang, termasuk saya tdk ada yg sakit pinggang atau punggung
Wah enak banget ya emang seri 5 anti sakit punggung pinggang wkwkwk....

Kalo kelg ane roadtrip pake E36 bolak balik keliling pantura dulu or E46 di sumatera utara, waduh sakit pinggang semua baik yg nyetir ama yg numpang pas sampe tujuan :mky_07:
hehe pengalaman pertama saya long trip,
mau ngetest FC, eh iseng juga sekalian nanyain penumpang, istri+mertua, pegel2 apa ngga di mobil 8 jam

katanya ngga
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bisti wrote:kalo yg saya rasain...nyetir mobilio sama grand civic mirip kok feel nya...mobilio jg drive position rendah, body roll minim..
apa saya yg gk normal
grand civic kan udah beda umur oom hehe
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alvin23 wrote:
bisti wrote:kalo yg saya rasain...nyetir mobilio sama grand civic mirip kok feel nya...mobilio jg drive position rendah, body roll minim..
apa saya yg gk normal
grand civic kan udah beda umur oom hehe

iyaa jg kali ya..
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kl yg ane ngalamin...

nyetir cityZ ama ferio berasa ad beda nya... tp yg berasa paling jauh beda nya antara cityZ ama all new city, apalagi city aria...

mungkin ane yg tralu sensitip orang nya...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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bisti wrote:kalo yg saya rasain...nyetir mobilio sama grand civic mirip kok feel nya...mobilio jg drive position rendah, body roll minim..
apa saya yg gk normal
Kata ane mah beda banget deh om, abisnya grand civic kan posisi duduknya rada selonjor ala sedan beneran, mobilio ya kyk brio yg posisi duduknya lebih ke duduk drpd selonjor, ala hatchback... Trus mobilio steernya super ringan n no feedback, respons gas rem dsb nya jg beda bgt... :mky_01:
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Saya juga gak tau nyetir altis posisinya lbh enak drpd cx5 , sensasinya ada sendiri kl sedan .... pas gitu .
jadi gak kebayang nyetir mazda6 gimana hehe

gimana2 sedan beda ama suv apalagi mpv . Cm sedan kurang friendly mmg kl udah keluarga apalagi kl masih kecil2 yg bth banyak barang , tas dan kereta.....
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DOHC wrote:ga smua corolla mods robot..

altis smua seri, dr awal ampe skrg ga bkin napsu liatnya...

tp kl greco, all new lewat... mau sekacrut apapun (anehnya malah ckup terawat rata2, malah altis ke atas ud beberapa kl ktemu yg kacrut) pasti bkin ane nenggok sejenak..
Ada yg bilang all new nih, saya masih miara :mky_03:

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Posisi duduknya bener2 rebah, beda sama altis yang mulai agak tinggi tp jd nanggung gitu. Sedan banget rasanya. Cuma karena biasa harian pake hatchback disebelahnya, setiap masuk keluar anc bawaannya pegel karena posisi duduknya yg terlalu rendah
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@ adty

wahh masi ckup seger tuh om... 1.8 kann yah... ane perna cobain yg 1.6 aj ahoyy tuh... matic... ini mobil bukan buat ngebut tp buat dnikmatin...
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DOHC wrote:@ adty

wahh masi ckup seger tuh om... 1.8 kann yah... ane perna cobain yg 1.6 aj ahoyy tuh... matic... ini mobil bukan buat ngebut tp buat dnikmatin...
Iya om 1.8 matic. Borosnya minta ampun ni mobil :big_biglaugh:
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oom adity, emang 1 ltr dapat brp kilometer ?
BUkannya ini mobil Toyota, bukan gallant hiu
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jivos wrote:janda2 kembang compact size favorit yg ampe 10thn ke dpan msh bikin malu mbl keluaran baru dg hi price tag n content yg kopong :

*E46/330ci n E90/325i
*w204
----> part n workshop beragam type/hrg
----> reliability > dr euro merk lain, meski slightly blw jap's mid size. P'alaman nge keep n nge restore bbrp, sll ada antithesis utk statement mbl jerman itu rewel n mhl, hv been there.
==============

*civic fd2
------> reliability, dsign, k engine, rear axl indpnt, affordable part, easy maintanance.

diatas nama2 janda kembang yg menarik buat dipinang. murah tp ngga murahan, sec tampilan n content, as a toys atopun daily transport. :mky_02:
Nah ini masta biem sudah bersabda. :e-dance:

E46 330 either yang coupe atau sedan sih emang mantap om. Sudah baby m3 ini. Beda kelas lah kalo dibanding sama 325i atau 320i. 330 udah electric seat 2 kursi depan, setir sudah mtech, setting suspensi jg udah beda dibanding seri lain.

M54B30 ini kan pernah terpilih jadi enjin terbaik di dunia taun berapa gt. Sampai skrg jg dijadiin dasar mesin inline 6 biem. Bener2 classic ini om. Untung ane udah dikasi kesempatan buat nyetir 330 ini baik yang coupe atau sedan. Sampe skrg ini mobil jadi impian ane. Semoga nanti bisa kesampaian bungkus.
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DOHC wrote:E46, E60 530 stuju.... perna naek, kondisi 2 2 nya mint krn 2 2 owner nya sama2 cinta ama mobil nya.... usia ud tembus 10 tahun tp naikan nya masi blep2, dan 2 2 nya masi rawatan astra dan satu lg BMW authorised service center d melbourne up to this date... dan kl d bejek, ntuh suara erangan mesin plus exhaust nya bener2 eargasm banget...

w204 jg stuju... my all time fav C klasse.... apalagi yg ud pake velg AMG.... bener2 proper saloon bagi ane... ga kegedeaan dan minim jati diri sperti W205 skrg (sorry om kompre.. hehe)....
:big_biglaugh: ...no problem mod...itu selera..saya suka e36 dibanding e46 n e90...tp tdk pernah berpikir membandingkan utk mencari kelebihan e36...
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adty wrote: Ada yg bilang all new nih, saya masih miara :mky_03:

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Posisi duduknya bener2 rebah, beda sama altis yang mulai agak tinggi tp jd nanggung gitu. Sedan banget rasanya. Cuma karena biasa harian pake hatchback disebelahnya, setiap masuk keluar anc bawaannya pegel karena posisi duduknya yg terlalu rendah
Minggu kemarin bawa all new yg 1.6 punya temen. Ga dirawat, penyok sana sini. Tapi anehnya enak bener ini mobil, tarikan oke bgt, torsi merata dan kuat. Handling lincah, feedback stir okelah. Pedal placement juga oke buat heel and toe. What a fun little car :mky_02: itu baru 1.6 blm 1.8 kayak punya om
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campoeran wrote:Saya juga gak tau nyetir altis posisinya lbh enak drpd cx5 , sensasinya ada sendiri kl sedan .... pas gitu .
jadi gak kebayang nyetir mazda6 gimana hehe

gimana2 sedan beda ama suv apalagi mpv . Cm sedan kurang friendly mmg kl udah keluarga apalagi kl masih kecil2 yg bth banyak barang , tas dan kereta.....
CX-5 kalau sama lawan sesama SUV nya, CR-V posisi duduknya masih lebih enak CR-V juga om.

CX-5 buat saya posisi duduknya gak spesial spesial amat. Yang spesial ya transmisinya :big_biglaugh:
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Hiks hiks, saya jadi rindu All New Corolla saya, 1.6 M/T
Monggo mampir ke blog saya http://yahyakurniawan.net
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Setau saya perhitungan pajak di luar negeri memperhitungkan faktor konsumsi BBM & juga emisi gas buang ga dilihat dari tipe sedan/SUV nya. Menurut saya make sense kalo kaya gitu. logic nya yah Jazz/City harusnya pajak nya sama karena mereka di range yang fuel consumption nya sama. yang boros2 kaya MPV yang mesti diincer pajak lebih mahal.

Sama ane kurang agree kalo dibilang Sedan di luar ga laku. belom lama ini, ane sempet jalan ke Shanghai sama Sydney yang ane liat mostly masih sedan or sedan tanpa buntut yang mayoritas ya.