Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
deltalube yahh... kayanya ditempat ane di pluit jg ud mulai bnyak meneer... entah gmana kualitas nya... kl utk mrek2 yg jarang apalagi baru gt, ane blom brani buat jadi oli mesin ane... plg hanya sebatas utk oli gardan atau transmisi atau minyak rem dan PS...
utk harga, unil opal jg di atas si htec kan meneer (dgn catatan kl toko oli nya ga mark up tuh si htec punya price)
utk harga, unil opal jg di atas si htec kan meneer (dgn catatan kl toko oli nya ga mark up tuh si htec punya price)
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
Waktu saya beli, opaljet 24s malah lebih murah, saat itu cuma 110k/L, htech sudah buka harga 120-125K/LDOHC wrote:deltalube yahh... kayanya ditempat ane di pluit jg ud mulai bnyak meneer... entah gmana kualitas nya... kl utk mrek2 yg jarang apalagi baru gt, ane blom brani buat jadi oli mesin ane... plg hanya sebatas utk oli gardan atau transmisi atau minyak rem dan PS...
utk harga, unil opal jg di atas si htec kan meneer (dgn catatan kl toko oli nya ga mark up tuh si htec punya price)
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
si htec harganya variatif kl di jakarta meneer.... di SnD seliter 150 rebu, atrium range 110-120an, ayung 90an rebu.... ntah mana yg bener...
kl unil opal krn cuman 1 toko yg jual jd yahh mau ga mau cuman ad harga dr dia, 120an rebu slter..
kl unil opal krn cuman 1 toko yg jual jd yahh mau ga mau cuman ad harga dr dia, 120an rebu slter..
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
mo tanya, penggantian oli 10rb km sekali masih normalkah?
kondisi jalan 50% macet tiap hari n 10rb km dapet sekitar 4bulan. oli selama ini pake mitsu 5-30 api SN.
selain dtmf adakah toko lain yg terpercaya untuk beli oli? klo bisa di pasar palmerah karena kebeneran kerjanya deket situ
kondisi jalan 50% macet tiap hari n 10rb km dapet sekitar 4bulan. oli selama ini pake mitsu 5-30 api SN.
selain dtmf adakah toko lain yg terpercaya untuk beli oli? klo bisa di pasar palmerah karena kebeneran kerjanya deket situ

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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
10 rb Km dlm 4 bulan sih bagusscorpio wrote:mo tanya, penggantian oli 10rb km sekali masih normalkah?
kondisi jalan 50% macet tiap hari n 10rb km dapet sekitar 4bulan. oli selama ini pake mitsu 5-30 api SN.
selain dtmf adakah toko lain yg terpercaya untuk beli oli? klo bisa di pasar palmerah karena kebeneran kerjanya deket situ
Yg penting olinya bagus dan tiap ganti oli ganti filter olinya dgn filter oli genuine
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
Perbedaan oli yg umurnya cuman 5000 km dan bisa 10.000 km or lebih
As subject
Masih banyak user yg hingga hari ini masih terpaku dgn angka keramat 5000 km utk ganti oli dan "Takut" utk ganti oli sampe 10.000 km
Sebetulnya simple aja, kita bisa lihat Technical data sheeet sebuah oli
Contoh Mesran Prima dan Mesran super......kenapa umurnya cuman sampe 5000 km / 5 bulan, semua ada dasarnya :
http://pelumas.pertamina.com/Files/pdf/ ... 20Oils.pdf
Bisa dilihat angka TBN awal keduanya gak sampe 7 mg KOH dan VI nya juga under 130
Sedangkan oli2 yg di rekomen ganti di 10.000 km / 12 bulan rata2 ber TBN sekitar 9 - 11 mg KOH dan VI nya di atas 150
Jadi semua ada dasarnya
Semoga bermanfaat
As subject
Masih banyak user yg hingga hari ini masih terpaku dgn angka keramat 5000 km utk ganti oli dan "Takut" utk ganti oli sampe 10.000 km
Sebetulnya simple aja, kita bisa lihat Technical data sheeet sebuah oli
Contoh Mesran Prima dan Mesran super......kenapa umurnya cuman sampe 5000 km / 5 bulan, semua ada dasarnya :
http://pelumas.pertamina.com/Files/pdf/ ... 20Oils.pdf
Bisa dilihat angka TBN awal keduanya gak sampe 7 mg KOH dan VI nya juga under 130
Sedangkan oli2 yg di rekomen ganti di 10.000 km / 12 bulan rata2 ber TBN sekitar 9 - 11 mg KOH dan VI nya di atas 150
Jadi semua ada dasarnya
Semoga bermanfaat
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
Mau tanya om turbo.
Setiap ganti olie mesin apa harus sekalian ganti filter oli juga?atau cukup 3x ganti oli baru penggantian ke 4 plus ganti filter oli?
Sent from semarpret yg semakin hari signalny semakin kamfret.
Setiap ganti olie mesin apa harus sekalian ganti filter oli juga?atau cukup 3x ganti oli baru penggantian ke 4 plus ganti filter oli?
Sent from semarpret yg semakin hari signalny semakin kamfret.

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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
Sebaiknya ganti filterAndrian wrote:Mau tanya om turbo.
Setiap ganti olie mesin apa harus sekalian ganti filter oli juga?atau cukup 3x ganti oli baru penggantian ke 4 plus ganti filter oli?
Sent from semarpret yg semakin hari signalny semakin kamfret.
Kalo filter ori dirasa mahal bisa pake Sakura or Aspira, yg penting diganti
Konon oli filter di atas 6000 km mulai mengalami kejenuhan
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
Sebentar lagi sudah waktu ganti oli mesin mobil tua produksi tahun 1981 bermesin tipe Toyota 3T 1770cc OHV karbu.
Terakhir turun mesin karena kebanjiran tahun 1998.
Biasanya pakai oli Mesran Prima XP 20W50, ganti tiap 4000-5000 km (ditempuh sekitar 1 tahun).
Ada saran oli yang direkomendasikan?
Lebih baik oli sintetik atau oli mineral untuk mobil tua tahun 81?
Spek API dan kekentalan sebaiknya berapa untuk keawetan mesin dan irit bbm (maklum ni mobil kalau kondisi macet2an, bisa 1:6 premium.. kalo tol lancar santai sih bisa 1:11.. )
Mesran Prima XP 20W50
Mesran Prima XP 10W40
Mesran Super 20W50
Shell? Total?
Atau anti mainstream pakai oli Meditran SX 15W40?
Nuhun.
Terakhir turun mesin karena kebanjiran tahun 1998.
Biasanya pakai oli Mesran Prima XP 20W50, ganti tiap 4000-5000 km (ditempuh sekitar 1 tahun).
Ada saran oli yang direkomendasikan?
Lebih baik oli sintetik atau oli mineral untuk mobil tua tahun 81?
Spek API dan kekentalan sebaiknya berapa untuk keawetan mesin dan irit bbm (maklum ni mobil kalau kondisi macet2an, bisa 1:6 premium.. kalo tol lancar santai sih bisa 1:11.. )
Mesran Prima XP 20W50
Mesran Prima XP 10W40
Mesran Super 20W50
Shell? Total?
Atau anti mainstream pakai oli Meditran SX 15W40?
Nuhun.
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Re: Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 05
kalo selama ini pakai 20W50 gak pernah nguap maka boleh coba 15W40didietkeren wrote:Sebentar lagi sudah waktu ganti oli mesin mobil tua produksi tahun 1981 bermesin tipe Toyota 3T 1770cc OHV karbu.
Terakhir turun mesin karena kebanjiran tahun 1998.
Biasanya pakai oli Mesran Prima XP 20W50, ganti tiap 4000-5000 km (ditempuh sekitar 1 tahun).
Ada saran oli yang direkomendasikan?
Lebih baik oli sintetik atau oli mineral untuk mobil tua tahun 81?
Spek API dan kekentalan sebaiknya berapa untuk keawetan mesin dan irit bbm (maklum ni mobil kalau kondisi macet2an, bisa 1:6 premium.. kalo tol lancar santai sih bisa 1:11.. )
Mesran Prima XP 20W50
Mesran Prima XP 10W40
Mesran Super 20W50
Shell? Total?
Atau anti mainstream pakai oli Meditran SX 15W40?
Nuhun.
oli 15W40 saat panas kekentalan sama spt SAE 40 tunggal
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********** OUTSTANDING PROTECTION Over 90,000 psi ************
1. 5W30 Pennzoil Ultra, API SM = 115,612 psi
I have not been able to find this oil with the latest API SN certification. The bottle says, “No leading synthetic oil provides better wear protection”. For once, a product’s hype turns out to be true.
zinc = 806 ppm
phos = 812 ppm
moly = 66 ppm
2. 10W30 Lucas Racing Only = 106,505 psi
zinc = 2642 ppm
phos = 3489 ppm
moly = 1764 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
3. 5W30 Mobil 1, API SN = 105,875 psi
zinc = 801 ppm
phos = 842 ppm
moly = 112 ppm
4. 0W30 Amsoil Signature Series 25,000 miles, API SN = 105,008 psi
zinc = 824 ppm
phos = 960 ppm
moly = 161 ppm
******* 10% below number 1 = 104,051 psi ********
5. 10W30 Valvoline NSL (Not Street Legal) Conventional Racing Oil = 103,846 psi
zinc = 1669 ppm
phos = 1518 ppm
moly = 784 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
6. 5W50 Motorcraft, API SN = 103,517 psi
zinc = 606 ppm
phos = 742 ppm
moly = 28 ppm
7. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Conventional Racing Oil (silver bottle) = 103,505 psi
zinc = 1472 ppm
phos = 1544 ppm
moly = 3 ppm
8. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Synthetic Racing Oil, API SL (black bottle) = 101,139 psi
zinc = 1180 ppm
phos = 1112 ppm
moly = 162 ppm
9. 5W30 Chevron Supreme conventional, API SN = 100,011 psi
This one only costs $4.29 per quart at the Auto Parts Store where I bought it.
zinc = 1018 ppm
phos = 728 ppm
moly = 161 ppm
10. 5W20 Castrol Edge with Titanium, API SN = 99,983 psi
zinc = 1042 ppm
phos = 857 ppm
moly = 100 ppm
titanium = 49 ppm
11. 20W50 Castrol GTX conventional, API SN = 96,514 psi
zinc = 610 ppm
phos = 754 ppm
moly = 94 ppm
12. 30 wt Red Line Race Oil = 96,470 psi
zinc = 2207 ppm
phos = 2052 ppm
moly = 1235 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
13. 0W20 Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy, API SN = 96,364 psi
zinc = 742 ppm
phos = 677 ppm
moly = 81 ppm
14. 5W30 Quaker State Ultimate Durability, API SN = 95,920 psi
zinc = 877 ppm
phos = 921 ppm
moly = 72 ppm
15. 5W30 Castrol Edge with Titanium, API SN = 95,717 psi
zinc = 818 ppm
phos = 883 ppm
moly = 90 ppm
titanium = 44 ppm
16. 10W30 Joe Gibbs XP3 NASCAR Racing Oil = 95,543 psi
zinc = 743 ppm
phos = 802 ppm
moly = 1125 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
17. 5W20 Castrol GTX conventional, API SN = 95,543 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
NOTE: Oil numbers 16 and 17 were tested weeks apart, but due to the similarities in their wear scar sizes, their averages ended up the same.
18. 5W30 Castrol GTX conventional, API SN = 95,392 psi
zinc = 830 ppm
phos = 791 ppm
moly = 1 ppm
19. 10W30 Amsoil Z-Rod Oil = 95,360 psi
zinc = 1431 ppm
phos = 1441 ppm
moly = 52 ppm
20. 5W30 Valvoline SynPower, API SN = 94,942 psi
zinc = 969 ppm
phos = 761 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
21. 5W30 Valvoline Premium Conventional, API SN = 94,744 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
22. 5W20 Mobil 1, API SN = 94,663 psi
zinc = 764 ppm
phos = 698 ppm
moly = 76 ppm
23. 5W20 Valvoline SynPower, API SN = 94,460 psi
zinc = 1045 ppm
phos = 742 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
******** 20% below number 1 = 92,490 psi ********
24. 5W30 Lucas conventional, API SN = 92,073 psi
zinc = 992 ppm
phos = 760 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
25. 5W30 O'Reilly (house brand) conventional, API SN = 91,433 psi
This one only costs $3.99 per quart at the Auto Parts Store where I bought it.
zinc = 863 ppm
phos = 816 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
26. 5W30 Red Line, API SN = 91,028 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
27. 5W20 Royal Purple API SN = 90,434 psi
zinc = 964 ppm
phos = 892 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
28. 10W30 Quaker State Defy, API SL (semi-synthetic) = 90,226 psi
zinc = 1221 ppm
phos = 955 ppm
moly = 99 ppm
29. 5W20 Valvoline Premium Conventional, API SN = 90,144 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
************ GOOD PROTECTION 75,000 to 90,000 psi **********
30. 30 wt Castrol Heavy Duty conventional, API SM = 88,089 psi
zinc = 907 ppm
phos = 829 ppm
moly = 56 ppm
31. 10W30 Joe Gibbs HR4 Hotrod Oil = 86,270 psi
zinc = 1247 ppm
phos = 1137 ppm
moly = 24 ppm
32. 5W20 Pennzoil Ultra, API SM = 86,034 psi
I have not been able to find this oil with the latest API SN certification.
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
33. 15W40 RED LINE Diesel Oil, API CJ-4/CI-4 PLUS/CI-4/CF/CH-4/CF-4/SM/SL/SH/EO-O = 85,663 psi
zinc = 1615 ppm
phos = 1551 ppm
moly = 173 ppm
34. 5W30 Royal Purple API SN = 84,009 psi
zinc = 942 ppm
phos = 817 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
35. 20W50 Royal Purple API SN = 83,487 psi
zinc = 588 ppm
phos = 697 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
36. 20W50 Kendall GT-1 High Performance with liquid titanium, (conventional) API SN = 83,365 psi
zinc = 991 ppm
phos = 1253 ppm
moly = 57 ppm
titanium = 84 ppm
37. 5W30 Mobil 1 Extended Performance 15,000 mile, API SN = 83,263 psi
zinc = 890 ppm
phos = 819 ppm
moly = 104 ppm
38. 0W20 Castrol Edge with Titanium, API SN = 82,867 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
******** 30% below number 1 = 80,928 psi ********
39. 15W40 ROYAL PURPLE Diesel Oil, API CJ-4 /SM, CI-4 PLUS, CH-4, CI-4 = 76,997 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
40. 5W30 GM's AC Delco dexos 1 (semi-synthetic) API SN = 76,501 psi
zinc = 878 ppm
phos = 758 ppm
moly = 72 ppm
**************** MODEST PROTECTION 60,000 to 75,000 psi ************
41. 5W30 Royal Purple XPR (Extreme Performance Racing) = 74,860 psi
zinc = 1421 ppm
phos = 1338 ppm
moly = 204 ppm
NOTE: This particular bottle of oil was just opened, but was out of a 3 ½ year old case.
42. 5W40 MOBIL 1 TURBO DIESEL TRUCK Oil, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4 and ACEA E7 = 74,312 psi
zinc = 1211 ppm
phos = 1168 ppm
moly = 2 ppm
43. 15W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, SM, SL, “Load Carrying Capacity/Film Strength” = 73,520 psi
zinc = 1519 ppm
phos = 1139 ppm
moly = 80 ppm
44. 15W40 MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4/SM, SL = 73,300 psi
zinc = 1297 ppm
phos = 1944 ppm
moly = 46 ppm
45. 15W40 Farm Rated Heavy Duty Performance Diesel, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF/SL, SJ (conventional) = 73,176 psi
zinc = 1325ppm
phos = 1234 ppm
moly = 2 ppm
46. 15W40 SHELL ROTELLA T Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4,CF/SM = 72,022 psi
zinc = 1454 ppm
phos = 1062 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
47. Brad Penn, Penn Grade 1 Nitro 70 Racing Oil (semi-synthetic) = 72,003 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
48. 0W30 Brad Penn, Penn Grade 1 (semi-synthetic) = 71,377 psi
zinc = 1621 ppm
phos = 1437 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
49. 15W40 “OLD” SHELL ROTELLA T Diesel Oil, conventional, API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4,CG-4,CF-4,CF,SL, SJ, SH = 71,214 psi
zinc = 1171 ppm
phos = 1186 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
50. 10W30 Brad Penn, Penn Grade 1 (semi-synthetic) = 71,206 psi
zinc = 1557 ppm
phos = 1651 ppm
moly = 3 ppm
51. 15W40 VALVOLINE PREMIUM BLUE HEAVY DUTY DIESEL Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF/SM = 70,869 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
52. 15W50 Mobil 1, API SN = 70,235 psi
zinc = 1,133 ppm
phos = 1,168 ppm
moly = 83 ppm
53. 5W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, SL, SM = 69,631 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
******** 40% below number 1 = 69,367 psi ********
54. 5W30 Motorcraft, API SN = 68,782 psi
zinc = 796 ppm
phos = 830 ppm
moly = 75 ppm
55. 5W40 SHELL ROTELLA T6 Diesel Oil, synthetic, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4/SM = 67,804 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
56. 15W40 LUCAS MAGNUM Diesel Oil, conventional, API CI-4,CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF/SL
= 66,476 psi
zinc = 1441 ppm
phos = 1234 ppm
moly = 76 ppm
57. 15W40 CASTROL GTX DIESEL Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4/SN = 66,323 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
58. 10W30 Royal Purple HPS (High Performance Street) = 66,211 psi
zinc = 1774 ppm
phos = 1347 ppm
moly = 189 ppm
59. 10W40 Valvoline 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil conventional, API SJ = 65,553 psi
zinc = 1154 ppm
phos = 1075 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
60. Royal Purple 10W30 Break-In Oil conventional = 62,931 psi
zinc = 1170 ppm
phos = 1039 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
********** UNDESIRABLE PROTECTION Below 60,000 psi ***********
61. Torco 10W40 TR-1 Racing Oil with MPZ conventional = 59,905 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32279
Jadi dari hasil test di atas, ternyata banyak oli buntut 20 yang ketahanan geseknya di atas oli buntut 40 or 30
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********** OUTSTANDING PROTECTION Over 90,000 psi ************
1. 5W30 Pennzoil Ultra, API SM = 115,612 psi
I have not been able to find this oil with the latest API SN certification. The bottle says, “No leading synthetic oil provides better wear protection”. For once, a product’s hype turns out to be true.
zinc = 806 ppm
phos = 812 ppm
moly = 66 ppm
2. 10W30 Lucas Racing Only = 106,505 psi
zinc = 2642 ppm
phos = 3489 ppm
moly = 1764 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
3. 5W30 Mobil 1, API SN = 105,875 psi
zinc = 801 ppm
phos = 842 ppm
moly = 112 ppm
4. 0W30 Amsoil Signature Series 25,000 miles, API SN = 105,008 psi
zinc = 824 ppm
phos = 960 ppm
moly = 161 ppm
******* 10% below number 1 = 104,051 psi ********
5. 10W30 Valvoline NSL (Not Street Legal) Conventional Racing Oil = 103,846 psi
zinc = 1669 ppm
phos = 1518 ppm
moly = 784 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
6. 5W50 Motorcraft, API SN = 103,517 psi
zinc = 606 ppm
phos = 742 ppm
moly = 28 ppm
7. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Conventional Racing Oil (silver bottle) = 103,505 psi
zinc = 1472 ppm
phos = 1544 ppm
moly = 3 ppm
8. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Synthetic Racing Oil, API SL (black bottle) = 101,139 psi
zinc = 1180 ppm
phos = 1112 ppm
moly = 162 ppm
9. 5W30 Chevron Supreme conventional, API SN = 100,011 psi
This one only costs $4.29 per quart at the Auto Parts Store where I bought it.
zinc = 1018 ppm
phos = 728 ppm
moly = 161 ppm
10. 5W20 Castrol Edge with Titanium, API SN = 99,983 psi
zinc = 1042 ppm
phos = 857 ppm
moly = 100 ppm
titanium = 49 ppm
11. 20W50 Castrol GTX conventional, API SN = 96,514 psi
zinc = 610 ppm
phos = 754 ppm
moly = 94 ppm
12. 30 wt Red Line Race Oil = 96,470 psi
zinc = 2207 ppm
phos = 2052 ppm
moly = 1235 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
13. 0W20 Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy, API SN = 96,364 psi
zinc = 742 ppm
phos = 677 ppm
moly = 81 ppm
14. 5W30 Quaker State Ultimate Durability, API SN = 95,920 psi
zinc = 877 ppm
phos = 921 ppm
moly = 72 ppm
15. 5W30 Castrol Edge with Titanium, API SN = 95,717 psi
zinc = 818 ppm
phos = 883 ppm
moly = 90 ppm
titanium = 44 ppm
16. 10W30 Joe Gibbs XP3 NASCAR Racing Oil = 95,543 psi
zinc = 743 ppm
phos = 802 ppm
moly = 1125 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
17. 5W20 Castrol GTX conventional, API SN = 95,543 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
NOTE: Oil numbers 16 and 17 were tested weeks apart, but due to the similarities in their wear scar sizes, their averages ended up the same.
18. 5W30 Castrol GTX conventional, API SN = 95,392 psi
zinc = 830 ppm
phos = 791 ppm
moly = 1 ppm
19. 10W30 Amsoil Z-Rod Oil = 95,360 psi
zinc = 1431 ppm
phos = 1441 ppm
moly = 52 ppm
20. 5W30 Valvoline SynPower, API SN = 94,942 psi
zinc = 969 ppm
phos = 761 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
21. 5W30 Valvoline Premium Conventional, API SN = 94,744 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
22. 5W20 Mobil 1, API SN = 94,663 psi
zinc = 764 ppm
phos = 698 ppm
moly = 76 ppm
23. 5W20 Valvoline SynPower, API SN = 94,460 psi
zinc = 1045 ppm
phos = 742 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
******** 20% below number 1 = 92,490 psi ********
24. 5W30 Lucas conventional, API SN = 92,073 psi
zinc = 992 ppm
phos = 760 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
25. 5W30 O'Reilly (house brand) conventional, API SN = 91,433 psi
This one only costs $3.99 per quart at the Auto Parts Store where I bought it.
zinc = 863 ppm
phos = 816 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
26. 5W30 Red Line, API SN = 91,028 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
27. 5W20 Royal Purple API SN = 90,434 psi
zinc = 964 ppm
phos = 892 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
28. 10W30 Quaker State Defy, API SL (semi-synthetic) = 90,226 psi
zinc = 1221 ppm
phos = 955 ppm
moly = 99 ppm
29. 5W20 Valvoline Premium Conventional, API SN = 90,144 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
************ GOOD PROTECTION 75,000 to 90,000 psi **********
30. 30 wt Castrol Heavy Duty conventional, API SM = 88,089 psi
zinc = 907 ppm
phos = 829 ppm
moly = 56 ppm
31. 10W30 Joe Gibbs HR4 Hotrod Oil = 86,270 psi
zinc = 1247 ppm
phos = 1137 ppm
moly = 24 ppm
32. 5W20 Pennzoil Ultra, API SM = 86,034 psi
I have not been able to find this oil with the latest API SN certification.
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
33. 15W40 RED LINE Diesel Oil, API CJ-4/CI-4 PLUS/CI-4/CF/CH-4/CF-4/SM/SL/SH/EO-O = 85,663 psi
zinc = 1615 ppm
phos = 1551 ppm
moly = 173 ppm
34. 5W30 Royal Purple API SN = 84,009 psi
zinc = 942 ppm
phos = 817 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
35. 20W50 Royal Purple API SN = 83,487 psi
zinc = 588 ppm
phos = 697 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
36. 20W50 Kendall GT-1 High Performance with liquid titanium, (conventional) API SN = 83,365 psi
zinc = 991 ppm
phos = 1253 ppm
moly = 57 ppm
titanium = 84 ppm
37. 5W30 Mobil 1 Extended Performance 15,000 mile, API SN = 83,263 psi
zinc = 890 ppm
phos = 819 ppm
moly = 104 ppm
38. 0W20 Castrol Edge with Titanium, API SN = 82,867 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
******** 30% below number 1 = 80,928 psi ********
39. 15W40 ROYAL PURPLE Diesel Oil, API CJ-4 /SM, CI-4 PLUS, CH-4, CI-4 = 76,997 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
40. 5W30 GM's AC Delco dexos 1 (semi-synthetic) API SN = 76,501 psi
zinc = 878 ppm
phos = 758 ppm
moly = 72 ppm
**************** MODEST PROTECTION 60,000 to 75,000 psi ************
41. 5W30 Royal Purple XPR (Extreme Performance Racing) = 74,860 psi
zinc = 1421 ppm
phos = 1338 ppm
moly = 204 ppm
NOTE: This particular bottle of oil was just opened, but was out of a 3 ½ year old case.
42. 5W40 MOBIL 1 TURBO DIESEL TRUCK Oil, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4 and ACEA E7 = 74,312 psi
zinc = 1211 ppm
phos = 1168 ppm
moly = 2 ppm
43. 15W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, SM, SL, “Load Carrying Capacity/Film Strength” = 73,520 psi
zinc = 1519 ppm
phos = 1139 ppm
moly = 80 ppm
44. 15W40 MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4/SM, SL = 73,300 psi
zinc = 1297 ppm
phos = 1944 ppm
moly = 46 ppm
45. 15W40 Farm Rated Heavy Duty Performance Diesel, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF/SL, SJ (conventional) = 73,176 psi
zinc = 1325ppm
phos = 1234 ppm
moly = 2 ppm
46. 15W40 SHELL ROTELLA T Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4,CF/SM = 72,022 psi
zinc = 1454 ppm
phos = 1062 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
47. Brad Penn, Penn Grade 1 Nitro 70 Racing Oil (semi-synthetic) = 72,003 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
48. 0W30 Brad Penn, Penn Grade 1 (semi-synthetic) = 71,377 psi
zinc = 1621 ppm
phos = 1437 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
49. 15W40 “OLD” SHELL ROTELLA T Diesel Oil, conventional, API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4,CG-4,CF-4,CF,SL, SJ, SH = 71,214 psi
zinc = 1171 ppm
phos = 1186 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
50. 10W30 Brad Penn, Penn Grade 1 (semi-synthetic) = 71,206 psi
zinc = 1557 ppm
phos = 1651 ppm
moly = 3 ppm
51. 15W40 VALVOLINE PREMIUM BLUE HEAVY DUTY DIESEL Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF/SM = 70,869 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
52. 15W50 Mobil 1, API SN = 70,235 psi
zinc = 1,133 ppm
phos = 1,168 ppm
moly = 83 ppm
53. 5W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, SL, SM = 69,631 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
******** 40% below number 1 = 69,367 psi ********
54. 5W30 Motorcraft, API SN = 68,782 psi
zinc = 796 ppm
phos = 830 ppm
moly = 75 ppm
55. 5W40 SHELL ROTELLA T6 Diesel Oil, synthetic, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4/SM = 67,804 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
56. 15W40 LUCAS MAGNUM Diesel Oil, conventional, API CI-4,CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF/SL
= 66,476 psi
zinc = 1441 ppm
phos = 1234 ppm
moly = 76 ppm
57. 15W40 CASTROL GTX DIESEL Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4/SN = 66,323 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
58. 10W30 Royal Purple HPS (High Performance Street) = 66,211 psi
zinc = 1774 ppm
phos = 1347 ppm
moly = 189 ppm
59. 10W40 Valvoline 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil conventional, API SJ = 65,553 psi
zinc = 1154 ppm
phos = 1075 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
60. Royal Purple 10W30 Break-In Oil conventional = 62,931 psi
zinc = 1170 ppm
phos = 1039 ppm
moly = 0 ppm
********** UNDESIRABLE PROTECTION Below 60,000 psi ***********
61. Torco 10W40 TR-1 Racing Oil with MPZ conventional = 59,905 psi
zinc = TBD
phos = TBD
moly = TBD
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32279
Jadi dari hasil test di atas, ternyata banyak oli buntut 20 yang ketahanan geseknya di atas oli buntut 40 or 30
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Trims banget infonya... pengen coba oli meditran sx 15w40 (aman gak ini u/ mesin OHV bensin tahun 81?) .. atau mesran prima xp 10w40 ..Turboman wrote:kalo selama ini pakai 20W50 gak pernah nguap maka boleh coba 15W40didietkeren wrote:Sebentar lagi sudah waktu ganti oli mesin mobil tua produksi tahun 1981 bermesin tipe Toyota 3T 1770cc OHV karbu.
Terakhir turun mesin karena kebanjiran tahun 1998.
Biasanya pakai oli Mesran Prima XP 20W50, ganti tiap 4000-5000 km (ditempuh sekitar 1 tahun).
Ada saran oli yang direkomendasikan?
Lebih baik oli sintetik atau oli mineral untuk mobil tua tahun 81?
Spek API dan kekentalan sebaiknya berapa untuk keawetan mesin dan irit bbm (maklum ni mobil kalau kondisi macet2an, bisa 1:6 premium.. kalo tol lancar santai sih bisa 1:11.. )
Mesran Prima XP 20W50
Mesran Prima XP 10W40
Mesran Super 20W50
Shell? Total?
Atau anti mainstream pakai oli Meditran SX 15W40?
Nuhun.
oli 15W40 saat panas kekentalan sama spt SAE 40 tunggal
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Teoretis aman, apalagi untuk mesin bensin tua.didietkeren wrote:Trims banget infonya... pengen coba oli meditran sx 15w40 (aman gak ini u/ mesin OHV bensin tahun 81?) .. atau mesran prima xp 10w40 ..Turboman wrote:kalo selama ini pakai 20W50 gak pernah nguap maka boleh coba 15W40didietkeren wrote:Sebentar lagi sudah waktu ganti oli mesin mobil tua produksi tahun 1981 bermesin tipe Toyota 3T 1770cc OHV karbu.
Terakhir turun mesin karena kebanjiran tahun 1998.
Biasanya pakai oli Mesran Prima XP 20W50, ganti tiap 4000-5000 km (ditempuh sekitar 1 tahun).
Ada saran oli yang direkomendasikan?
Lebih baik oli sintetik atau oli mineral untuk mobil tua tahun 81?
Spek API dan kekentalan sebaiknya berapa untuk keawetan mesin dan irit bbm (maklum ni mobil kalau kondisi macet2an, bisa 1:6 premium.. kalo tol lancar santai sih bisa 1:11.. )
Mesran Prima XP 20W50
Mesran Prima XP 10W40
Mesran Super 20W50
Shell? Total?
Atau anti mainstream pakai oli Meditran SX 15W40?
Nuhun.
oli 15W40 saat panas kekentalan sama spt SAE 40 tunggal
Spek Meditran SX 15w-40
http://pelumas.pertamina.com/Files/pdf/ ... 20Oils.pdf
API SL/SJ, ACEA A3/B3, MB228.3/229.1, artinya bisa dipakai di mesin bensinPRODUCT DESCRIPTION
The complete performance level of this
lubricant are as follows :
API CI-4/CH-4/CG-4/CF-4/
SL/SJ, DHD-1, ACEA E5/E3/B4/B3/A3-02, ACEA E7/
A3/B3/B4-04, MB228.3/229.1, MAN3275/271, VOLVO
VDS-3, Mack EOM Plus, Cummis 20071/72/76, MTU
Category 2, Japanese Engines TD25&4D34T4, JASO DH-
1 (Capable)
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nanya donkkk... kalo untuk karimun wagon R pake oli apa ya yg direkomendasiin ama suhu suhu disini.
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wuihhhh.......King Mar kunjungan ke SM......kasih hormat dulum4rio wrote:nanya donkkk... kalo untuk karimun wagon R pake oli apa ya yg direkomendasiin ama suhu suhu disini.





Oke
Yg udah pasti sih kasih oli 5W30 aja yg mudah ditemui.......atau at least 10w30
Kalo rocker arm type solid cari yg API SL atau SN
kalo udah roller rocker bebas
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Malam rekan2 SM...
Mohon pencerahan, apa bedanya Castrol Magnatec SAE 5W-30 vs Magnatec Professional A5 SAE 5W-30 ya?
Sekarang saya pake yg Prof A5 di All New Avanza E 1.3 mt.
Menurut mekanik di Beres Aut*2K, oli tsb bisa dipakai sampai 10rb KM.
Terima kasih.
Mohon pencerahan, apa bedanya Castrol Magnatec SAE 5W-30 vs Magnatec Professional A5 SAE 5W-30 ya?
Sekarang saya pake yg Prof A5 di All New Avanza E 1.3 mt.
Menurut mekanik di Beres Aut*2K, oli tsb bisa dipakai sampai 10rb KM.
Terima kasih.
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Mohon masukannya suhu2 semua, mobil ane toyota vios 07. Baru flushing oli matic di bengkel umum tp dikasi oli atf t-iv seharusnya atf ws. Apakah ane harus flushing lg atau bisa diteruskan pakai atf t-iv ini? Selain merk toyota apakah ada alternatif merk lain untuk oli atf ws?
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Yg prof A5 lbh bagus rekomdasi by FORD.dulu dpt harga cuma 85rb/L skr di beres A2k skr kalo gk salah 170rb lbh mahal dari pada shell hx8.nyesel bgt gk nyetok padahal avanza cuma butuh 3liter.tomy_j wrote:Malam rekan2 SM...
Mohon pencerahan, apa bedanya Castrol Magnatec SAE 5W-30 vs Magnatec Professional A5 SAE 5W-30 ya?
Sekarang saya pake yg Prof A5 di All New Avanza E 1.3 mt.
Menurut mekanik di Beres Aut*2K, oli tsb bisa dipakai sampai 10rb KM.
Terima kasih.
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Kalo proses shifting / ganti giginya normal ya pake terus aja gppceiszha wrote:Mohon masukannya suhu2 semua, mobil ane toyota vios 07. Baru flushing oli matic di bengkel umum tp dikasi oli atf t-iv seharusnya atf ws. Apakah ane harus flushing lg atau bisa diteruskan pakai atf t-iv ini? Selain merk toyota apakah ada alternatif merk lain untuk oli atf ws?
T-IV itu bedanya cuman lebih kental drpd T-WS, sebetulnya Matic dikasih oli lebih kental sedikit dr spec ya ga pa pa sii buat powertrain, krn dalam bekerja suhu ATF akan panas / sangat panas
Tapi kalau ganti giginya terasa jadi sluggish ya terserah kalo mau diganti bolehhh
Nah itu udah pas banget tuh olinya.........cocok dahtomy_j wrote:Malam rekan2 SM...
Mohon pencerahan, apa bedanya Castrol Magnatec SAE 5W-30 vs Magnatec Professional A5 SAE 5W-30 ya?
Sekarang saya pake yg Prof A5 di All New Avanza E 1.3 mt.
Menurut mekanik di Beres Aut*2K, oli tsb bisa dipakai sampai 10rb KM.
Terima kasih.
bagusan yg Mag Prof krn dia comply ke std LongLife Ford WSS M2C91x
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Terima kasih atas pencerahannya broTurboman wrote:Nah itu udah pas banget tuh olinya.........cocok dahtomy_j wrote:Malam rekan2 SM...
Mohon pencerahan, apa bedanya Castrol Magnatec SAE 5W-30 vs Magnatec Professional A5 SAE 5W-30 ya?
Sekarang saya pake yg Prof A5 di All New Avanza E 1.3 mt.
Menurut mekanik di Beres Aut*2K, oli tsb bisa dipakai sampai 10rb KM.
Terima kasih.
bagusan yg Mag Prof krn dia comply ke std LongLife Ford WSS M2C91x

Kalo harga yg Magnatec Prof A5 di Beres sih 165/liter.
Sementara yg Magnatec 5W-30 di Lott* Mart harganya 120rb/liter

1. Sama2 SAE 5W-30, sama2 API SM, bedanya di mana ya bro?
2. Apa efeknya bila saya pakai yg Magnatec 5W-30?
3. Apa benar memang Prof A5 bisa dipakai hingga 10rb KM (dengan catatan jarang kena macet)?
Terima kasih.
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Nah itu kan ada tulisan ACEA A1 / A5 /B5 dan Ford WSS-M2C913-C/ WSS-M2C913-D.....itu kan semua ada maknanyatomy_j wrote: Terima kasih atas pencerahannya bro![]()
Kalo harga yg Magnatec Prof A5 di Beres sih 165/liter.
Sementara yg Magnatec 5W-30 di Lott* Mart harganya 120rb/liter
1. Sama2 SAE 5W-30, sama2 API SM, bedanya di mana ya bro?
2. Apa efeknya bila saya pakai yg Magnatec 5W-30?
3. Apa benar memang Prof A5 bisa dipakai hingga 10rb KM (dengan catatan jarang kena macet)?
Terima kasih.
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Itu SAPS 1,2 - 1,3 %
High detergent........biasanya diikuti dgn kadar antiwear yg tinggi juga
jelas bisa dipakai jauh
Mau macet or gak macet ya kita lihat Km dan durasi waktu aja, patokannya 10.000 Km atau 10 - 11 bulan mana yg tercapai duluan aja
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om mau nanya nich temen ada innova gen 1 bensin manual mau ganti oli mesin mau coba 0w depanya yg bgs apa ia?
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Kalo proses shifting / ganti giginya normal ya pake terus aja gpp
T-IV itu bedanya cuman lebih kental drpd T-WS, sebetulnya Matic dikasih oli lebih kental sedikit dr spec ya ga pa pa sii buat powertrain, krn dalam bekerja suhu ATF akan panas / sangat panas
Tapi kalau ganti giginya terasa jadi sluggish ya terserah kalo mau diganti bolehhh
Makasi om turbo masukannya. Ane udh terlanjur flushing lg di a2k. Perasaan wktu pke t-iv jd agak lambat tarikan mbl tp halus pindahnya. Bener gk sih kata org a2k klo oli atf ws gk perlu gnti om?
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T-IV itu bedanya cuman lebih kental drpd T-WS, sebetulnya Matic dikasih oli lebih kental sedikit dr spec ya ga pa pa sii buat powertrain, krn dalam bekerja suhu ATF akan panas / sangat panas
Tapi kalau ganti giginya terasa jadi sluggish ya terserah kalo mau diganti bolehhh
Makasi om turbo masukannya. Ane udh terlanjur flushing lg di a2k. Perasaan wktu pke t-iv jd agak lambat tarikan mbl tp halus pindahnya. Bener gk sih kata org a2k klo oli atf ws gk perlu gnti om?
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0W30gilaasepeda wrote:om mau nanya nich temen ada innova gen 1 bensin manual mau ganti oli mesin mau coba 0w depanya yg bgs apa ia?
gak banyak pilihan di sini
Petronas Syntium 5000 - 0W30 (dah jarang juga)
Mobil1 - 0W30
Amsoil AZO - 0W30
Kalo hoki bisa dapetin Agip Sint Evolution 0W30 lgs beli aja.....yg penting asli
Teeteupp suatu hari harus diganti juga, cuman ya bisa sgt panjangceiszha wrote: Makasi om turbo masukannya. Ane udh terlanjur flushing lg di a2k. Perasaan wktu pke t-iv jd agak lambat tarikan mbl tp halus pindahnya. Bener gk sih kata org a2k klo oli atf ws gk perlu gnti om?
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Kalo mineral ganti dlm 2 tahun, ya ini ganti di tahun ke 3 lah
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bisa beli di mana om? berapa harga 1 ltr?Turboman wrote:0W30gilaasepeda wrote:om mau nanya nich temen ada innova gen 1 bensin manual mau ganti oli mesin mau coba 0w depanya yg bgs apa ia?
gak banyak pilihan di sini
Petronas Syntium 5000 - 0W30 (dah jarang juga)
Mobil1 - 0W30
Amsoil AZO - 0W30
Kalo hoki bisa dapetin Agip Sint Evolution 0W30 lgs beli aja.....yg penting asli
Teeteupp suatu hari harus diganti juga, cuman ya bisa sgt panjangceiszha wrote: Makasi om turbo masukannya. Ane udh terlanjur flushing lg di a2k. Perasaan wktu pke t-iv jd agak lambat tarikan mbl tp halus pindahnya. Bener gk sih kata org a2k klo oli atf ws gk perlu gnti om?
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Kalo mineral ganti dlm 2 tahun, ya ini ganti di tahun ke 3 lah