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nyari the best top hatchback/city car
salam om2 sm disini.
butuh input,
dpt tugas berat dr adik, di suruh nyariin mbl hatchback/citycar/ compact car terbaik yg ada di pasaran saat ini, aslinya ane nol pengalaman di jap's car.
rintangannya;
# budget 275 k bawah
# kondisi baru ngga mw 2nd
# cost maintanance/parts/ ngga mahal2 amat.
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kriteria mbl na:
# engine: kudu responsive - love to revv.
# transmisi: acurate en performed nice ( MT/AT ok, Min 5 speed k atas)
# chasis: dinamis/flexible caracternya.
# handling & ride: sharp precise.
# Fun to Drive.
# reliabilitynya cukup baik.
pake point2 diatas, imho mbl yg baik lahir dr kriteria diatas, plus mrpkn porsi terbesar komposisinya ke pembentukan harga unit dr pihak car manufacturing.
* ngga terlalu concern dg gimmick2 aksesoris, audio, space yg lega, ato pemanis lainnya.
klo ada ya sukur - bonus namanya
butuh input,
dpt tugas berat dr adik, di suruh nyariin mbl hatchback/citycar/ compact car terbaik yg ada di pasaran saat ini, aslinya ane nol pengalaman di jap's car.
rintangannya;
# budget 275 k bawah
# kondisi baru ngga mw 2nd
# cost maintanance/parts/ ngga mahal2 amat.
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kriteria mbl na:
# engine: kudu responsive - love to revv.
# transmisi: acurate en performed nice ( MT/AT ok, Min 5 speed k atas)
# chasis: dinamis/flexible caracternya.
# handling & ride: sharp precise.
# Fun to Drive.
# reliabilitynya cukup baik.
pake point2 diatas, imho mbl yg baik lahir dr kriteria diatas, plus mrpkn porsi terbesar komposisinya ke pembentukan harga unit dr pihak car manufacturing.
* ngga terlalu concern dg gimmick2 aksesoris, audio, space yg lega, ato pemanis lainnya.
klo ada ya sukur - bonus namanya
4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move the soul.
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Re: nyari the best top hatchback/city car
tambahan info:
benchmarknya disini
suzuki swift sport ( yg MT pricenya msk kategori)
output: 136ps/160nm
bobot: 1045kg
refined engine, chasis, en transmisi dg price tag dan running cost yg wajar.
benchmarknya disini
suzuki swift sport ( yg MT pricenya msk kategori)
output: 136ps/160nm
bobot: 1045kg
refined engine, chasis, en transmisi dg price tag dan running cost yg wajar.
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Ecoboobs, torqueny pling gede di kelasny, dan peakny dri bawah
Dan mesin turbo mudah di upgred tenaganya lagi

Dan mesin turbo mudah di upgred tenaganya lagi

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Re: nyari the best top hatchback/city car
Harus jepangan om? Kalo boleh non jepang sih setuju Fiesta Ecoboost aja... 
Kalo harus jepangan... swift sport MT lah ya yg paling pas

Kalo harus jepangan... swift sport MT lah ya yg paling pas

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Re: nyari the best top hatchback/city car
If only happy to rev-iness, hands down to manual Mirage...one of the most exciting engine I've ever tried, excluding its CVT variant tapi ya[emoji28]
Kalo liat semua aspek, Fiesta EcoBoost MT. Dibikin semaput sama review kamer sebelah soal feel koplingnya[emoji22], sedangkan DSG nya horror(banyak yang kena TCM nya), dan memang level of fun nya beda...cmiiw![emoji216] [emoji252] [emoji252] [emoji252]
Kalo liat semua aspek, Fiesta EcoBoost MT. Dibikin semaput sama review kamer sebelah soal feel koplingnya[emoji22], sedangkan DSG nya horror(banyak yang kena TCM nya), dan memang level of fun nya beda...cmiiw![emoji216] [emoji252] [emoji252] [emoji252]
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@billyad & amfibi
* ngga mesti jepang si om, eropa jg bole
* fiesta ecoboost 1.0:
- dr segi output msh 125hp ya, torsi si unggul
klo diluar lawanya swift sport justru fiesta st 1.6 ecoboost.
- mantau millis & forum2 fiesta hrg parts nya mahal om sama dg mbl german, transmisi dct, tcm, steering rack b'masalh, hrg transmisi 80jt klo beli br ( klo waranty da expired repot ni). hrg unit turbo di mbl begini sktr 60jt an mungkin klo rusak. kec dpt copotan.
* engine en chasisny emang tajam sih
* ngga mesti jepang si om, eropa jg bole
* fiesta ecoboost 1.0:
- dr segi output msh 125hp ya, torsi si unggul
klo diluar lawanya swift sport justru fiesta st 1.6 ecoboost.
- mantau millis & forum2 fiesta hrg parts nya mahal om sama dg mbl german, transmisi dct, tcm, steering rack b'masalh, hrg transmisi 80jt klo beli br ( klo waranty da expired repot ni). hrg unit turbo di mbl begini sktr 60jt an mungkin klo rusak. kec dpt copotan.
* engine en chasisny emang tajam sih
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Waduh.... kriterianya mungkin agak sulit nih 
Oke... pilihan ane :
1. Suzuki Swift Sport MT (syukur2 kalo diskonnya banyak)
2. Honda Jazz RS MT/AT (syukur2 kalo versi blacktop masih ada)
3. All New Mazda 2 GT
4. Ford Fiesta Ecoboost MT
5. Suzuki Swift MT
Mungkin kudu panggil suhu dimarih nih


Oke... pilihan ane :
1. Suzuki Swift Sport MT (syukur2 kalo diskonnya banyak)
2. Honda Jazz RS MT/AT (syukur2 kalo versi blacktop masih ada)
3. All New Mazda 2 GT
4. Ford Fiesta Ecoboost MT
5. Suzuki Swift MT
Mungkin kudu panggil suhu dimarih nih


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Sebagai pengguna Swift Sport...no doubt Swift Sport M/T...
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Re: nyari the best top hatchback/city car
vote :
hatch jepangan : swift sport m/t atau GK5 type S a/t atau m/t)
citycar jepangan : mitsu mirage a/t atau m/t
hatch non jepangan : fiesta ecoboost m/t (btw, yg m/t ada ngga ya?)
citycar non jepangan : belum ada ide
hatch jepangan : swift sport m/t atau GK5 type S a/t atau m/t)
citycar jepangan : mitsu mirage a/t atau m/t
hatch non jepangan : fiesta ecoboost m/t (btw, yg m/t ada ngga ya?)
citycar non jepangan : belum ada ide
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kalo sudah ngomong semua faktor itu ya nggak ada yang lebih pas dari Suzuki Swift Sport MT....
apalagi ngomong reliabilitas... Suzuki dan Ford tingkat reliabilitasnya jauh banget. mesin M16A di SSport itu mesin lama, udah teruji reliabilitasnya.
IMO, pure driving happiness ya NA dong.... kurva tenaga linier dengan high-revving engine. hot hatchback tradisional yang sangat honest. Suzuki proves that this kind of car will still win the heart of enthusiasts
sebetulnya tadi mau nyaranin Mazda RX-8 MT atau Honda Civic Type R, tapi karena mintanya baru ya SSport...
apalagi ngomong reliabilitas... Suzuki dan Ford tingkat reliabilitasnya jauh banget. mesin M16A di SSport itu mesin lama, udah teruji reliabilitasnya.
IMO, pure driving happiness ya NA dong.... kurva tenaga linier dengan high-revving engine. hot hatchback tradisional yang sangat honest. Suzuki proves that this kind of car will still win the heart of enthusiasts
sebetulnya tadi mau nyaranin Mazda RX-8 MT atau Honda Civic Type R, tapi karena mintanya baru ya SSport...
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setuju sama bro chz pilih Suzuki Swift Sport M/T aja, warna pilih yg kuning biar eyecatching jgn yg warna putih soalnya swift yg standar juga ada warna putih. ntar malah dikira dimodif sendiri 


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lokasi di mana?jivos wrote:salam om2 sm disini.
butuh input,
dpt tugas berat dr adik, di suruh nyariin mbl hatchback/citycar/ compact car terbaik yg ada di pasaran saat ini, aslinya ane nol pengalaman di jap's car.
rintangannya;
# budget 275 k bawah
# kondisi baru ngga mw 2nd
# cost maintanance/parts/ ngga mahal2 amat.
-------------------------
kriteria mbl na:
# engine: kudu responsive - love to revv.
# transmisi: acurate en performed nice ( MT/AT ok, Min 5 speed k atas)
# chasis: dinamis/flexible caracternya.
# handling & ride: sharp precise.
# Fun to Drive.
# reliabilitynya cukup baik.
pake point2 diatas, imho mbl yg baik lahir dr kriteria diatas, plus mrpkn porsi terbesar komposisinya ke pembentukan harga unit dr pihak car manufacturing.
* ngga terlalu concern dg gimmick2 aksesoris, audio, space yg lega, ato pemanis lainnya.
klo ada ya sukur - bonus namanya
maksudnya chassis dinamis/flexible ini apa? chassis flexible tidak akan menghasilkan handling yang tajam dan presisi.
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Polo gimana? Mayan tu,... Meskipun namanya kyk doggy gw,... 

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new mazda 2 skyactiv dong.. mesin udah gasoline direct injection, 6 speed gearbox (baik di a/t atau m/t), i-stop, HID projector headlights, dan mazda sudah terkenal fun to drive (dari sisi mesin dan handling). 275jt sih dapet tuh yg GT...(varian tertinggi)
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@ imingwahyudi
mirage data sheet specnya msh kalah ni.
@om yg nyaranin jazz rs at/mt
awalnya sdh lgs mw ambil jazz rs at bln kmrn, cm main k forum2 sini, apalagi bc review om chz, langsung buyar da.
syarat buang duit di jazz , specnya hrs dinaikkan:
# mesin kudu yg dohc direct inject 132hp
# rem blkg kudu pk disc, minimal swap pk disc honda tiger mungkin.
@ om yg anjurin fiesta ecobost 1.0
ada lemah di point2 ini:
# parts mhl, cost main tinggi +/- sm dg mbl jerman
# FC claim pabrik berbanding terbalik dg actual
# rekomendasi Beres Ford sendiri yg bs handle dg baik unit fiesta, utk area jabotabek mungkin cm 3. Ford bekasi & ford Jkt Pusat/brt
# rear brake tromol.
# reliabiltynya krg badak, cth dct, tcm, steering rack
Diluar itu, still it's a great car. best engines 3 times, known as great handling car.
@chz/fred/rocco
* awl kenal ni mbl di iims 2013, kagum am specna, cm hargana ngga kuat. trus br keingat lg skrg.
Review luar blg ni mbl sport yg karakternya back to basic, impresi b'kendara mirip '80 /90' race car ford escort, peugeot 205gti, en golf gti.
* article top ten hatch, swift sport rank 3, lawannya dr segi spec en harga msh diatas 500jt, spt 208gti ato golf gti/r.
http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/recom ... hatchbacks
*itu yg yellow champion norak ngga tu/ dikiraiin
taxi ngga?
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@maskopat
lok jakarta om
maaf emang rancu jd nya.
maksudnya: chasis punya tingkat kedinamisan&flexibilitas yg baik buat melawan manuver twisting ato cornering.
mirage data sheet specnya msh kalah ni.
@om yg nyaranin jazz rs at/mt
awalnya sdh lgs mw ambil jazz rs at bln kmrn, cm main k forum2 sini, apalagi bc review om chz, langsung buyar da.
syarat buang duit di jazz , specnya hrs dinaikkan:
# mesin kudu yg dohc direct inject 132hp
# rem blkg kudu pk disc, minimal swap pk disc honda tiger mungkin.
@ om yg anjurin fiesta ecobost 1.0
ada lemah di point2 ini:
# parts mhl, cost main tinggi +/- sm dg mbl jerman
# FC claim pabrik berbanding terbalik dg actual
# rekomendasi Beres Ford sendiri yg bs handle dg baik unit fiesta, utk area jabotabek mungkin cm 3. Ford bekasi & ford Jkt Pusat/brt
# rear brake tromol.
# reliabiltynya krg badak, cth dct, tcm, steering rack
Diluar itu, still it's a great car. best engines 3 times, known as great handling car.
@chz/fred/rocco
* awl kenal ni mbl di iims 2013, kagum am specna, cm hargana ngga kuat. trus br keingat lg skrg.
Review luar blg ni mbl sport yg karakternya back to basic, impresi b'kendara mirip '80 /90' race car ford escort, peugeot 205gti, en golf gti.
* article top ten hatch, swift sport rank 3, lawannya dr segi spec en harga msh diatas 500jt, spt 208gti ato golf gti/r.
http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/recom ... hatchbacks
*itu yg yellow champion norak ngga tu/ dikiraiin
taxi ngga?
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@maskopat
lok jakarta om
maaf emang rancu jd nya.
maksudnya: chasis punya tingkat kedinamisan&flexibilitas yg baik buat melawan manuver twisting ato cornering.
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yg polo stdb8099ok wrote:Polo gimana? Mayan tu,... Meskipun namanya kyk doggy gw,...
spek msh di bwh
hrg otr ngga masuk om
polo gti, lbh tinggi lagi hrg na.
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Polo std aja, ntar diupgret pake mesin 2.0 golep gitiai,...jivos wrote:yg polo stdb8099ok wrote:Polo gimana? Mayan tu,... Meskipun namanya kyk doggy gw,...
spek msh di bwh
hrg otr ngga masuk om
polo gti, lbh tinggi lagi hrg na.
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sempet lirik & cr tau spec yg gt ni omtesna wrote:new mazda 2 skyactiv dong.. mesin udah gasoline direct injection, 6 speed gearbox (baik di a/t atau m/t), i-stop, HID projector headlights, dan mazda sudah terkenal fun to drive (dari sisi mesin dan handling). 275jt sih dapet tuh yg GT...(varian tertinggi)
* engine khok sm dg yg R ya 115hp
* semua spec gt ada di swift sport kec. i stop & a bunch of multimedia gadget.
swift sport
mt : 6 speed trans
at : cvt 7 speed
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Saran aja, kalo memang nyari yang fun to drive, sebaiknya avoid CVT. U will feel like an old man.jivos wrote:sempet lirik & cr tau spec yg gt ni omtesna wrote:new mazda 2 skyactiv dong.. mesin udah gasoline direct injection, 6 speed gearbox (baik di a/t atau m/t), i-stop, HID projector headlights, dan mazda sudah terkenal fun to drive (dari sisi mesin dan handling). 275jt sih dapet tuh yg GT...(varian tertinggi)
* engine khok sm dg yg R ya 115hp
* semua spec gt ada di swift sport kec. i stop & a bunch of multimedia gadget.
swift sport
mt : 6 speed trans
at : cvt 7 speed
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yellow championnya swift sport ga norak sama sekali om, malah eyecatching banget serius dan di interior build qualitinya bener2 bagus seperti apa yg dikatakan madcat di trit review Suzuki Swift Sport AT 2013
btw di tulungagung ane pernah 3x liat swift sport kuning dan platnya sama, mungkin punya om rocco77 ya?

btw di tulungagung ane pernah 3x liat swift sport kuning dan platnya sama, mungkin punya om rocco77 ya?


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# Efek CVT transmisi thd Fun to Drive yg berkurang,
apakah berlaku sama ke semua merk mbl dg CVT nya?
# Oh sdh ada toh, review Swift Sport di SM, lgsg mw k tkp.
# Noted input buat yeellau nya.
# yg tauswift sport, kondisi & hrg part nya gmn ya?
apakah berlaku sama ke semua merk mbl dg CVT nya?
# Oh sdh ada toh, review Swift Sport di SM, lgsg mw k tkp.
# Noted input buat yeellau nya.
# yg tauswift sport, kondisi & hrg part nya gmn ya?
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# Efek CVT transmisi thd Fun to Drive yg berkurang,
apakah berlaku sama ke semua merk mbl dg CVT nya?
# Oh sdh ada toh, review Swift Sport di SM, lgsg mw k tkp.
# Noted input buat yeellau nya.
# yg tauswift sport, kondisi & hrg part nya gmn ya?
apakah berlaku sama ke semua merk mbl dg CVT nya?
# Oh sdh ada toh, review Swift Sport di SM, lgsg mw k tkp.
# Noted input buat yeellau nya.
# yg tauswift sport, kondisi & hrg part nya gmn ya?
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mending ambil SSS m/t aja om,
klo a/t gak bisa terlalu mengeksplor tenaganya om, menurut ane lebih fun to drive manual daripada matic
trus sekedar info aja om, kmren awal November ane kmren dpt info dr sales, katanya ada diskon lumayan,,,
tp ane gak nanya brp soalnya gak pengen beli,,,![Big Smile :big_smile]](./images/smilies/big_smile.gif)
klo a/t gak bisa terlalu mengeksplor tenaganya om, menurut ane lebih fun to drive manual daripada matic

trus sekedar info aja om, kmren awal November ane kmren dpt info dr sales, katanya ada diskon lumayan,,,
tp ane gak nanya brp soalnya gak pengen beli,,,
![Big Smile :big_smile]](./images/smilies/big_smile.gif)
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Transmisi CVT menurut beberapa rekan memang mengurangi fun to drive, ane sendiri ada Honda Mobilio RS CVT dirumah, menurut ane jadi hambar pas nyetir itu mobil, tapi itu mbl pilihan nyokap jadi mau gimana lagi 
btw soal reliabilitas udah dijelasin sama bro chz kalo mesin M16A sudah teruji reliable dan menurut ane spare part suzuki masih tolerable lah, ga terlalu murah tapi juga ga terlalu mahal
(cmiiw)

btw soal reliabilitas udah dijelasin sama bro chz kalo mesin M16A sudah teruji reliable dan menurut ane spare part suzuki masih tolerable lah, ga terlalu murah tapi juga ga terlalu mahal


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Minky ....imingwahyudi wrote:If only happy to rev-iness, hands down to manual Mirage...one of the most exciting engine I've ever tried, excluding its CVT variant tapi ya[emoji28]

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