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Waah, selamat om bwt mblnya... :mky_02: smoga langgeng deh... :big_exellent:

Anyway soal statement sales mercy yg blg bmw lebih jatuh resale valuenya, yah kan namanya jg jualan mercy mana mungkin blg bmw lebih bagus... :mky_01:

Dan menurut pengamatan nubie sih mbl luxury gini mirip" lah resalenya, udh pasti turun byk... Lah mbl 300-400 jtan turunnya jg hampir 100 jt koq... :big_slap:

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Congratulations om. Good choice!
Morris mini cooper mk1 (sold) : Honda HRV : Fiat 500 Abarth Esseesse : BMW X1 : Jeep JL Rubicon. Holy grail: karmann ghia type 14.
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wkwkw kayak orang kawin bro.. jangan langgeng2 ahh... repot ntar. expected use 3-5 years, ntar tuh mah diganti :)
Gak tau trend 5 thn lagi, may be hybrid? FCV? :D atau sepeda onthel (due to nuke lol).


ricz wrote:Waah, selamat om bwt mblnya... :mky_02: smoga langgeng deh... :big_exellent:

Anyway soal statement sales mercy yg blg bmw lebih jatuh resale valuenya, yah kan namanya jg jualan mercy mana mungkin blg bmw lebih bagus... :mky_01:

Dan menurut pengamatan nubie sih mbl luxury gini mirip" lah resalenya, udh pasti turun byk... Lah mbl 300-400 jtan turunnya jg hampir 100 jt koq... :big_slap:

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enak pake selama warranty sih om..:) 5 thn ya.
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ahmad88 wrote:wkwkw kayak orang kawin bro.. jangan langgeng2 ahh... repot ntar. expected use 3-5 years, ntar tuh mah diganti :)
Gak tau trend 5 thn lagi, may be hybrid? FCV? :D atau sepeda onthel (due to nuke lol).


Congrats bro Ahmad, nice choice... dua2nya pilihan bagus, you can't go wrong with either of them :big_exellent:
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ricz wrote: Anyway soal statement sales mercy yg blg bmw lebih jatuh resale valuenya, yah kan namanya jg jualan mercy mana mungkin blg bmw lebih bagus... :mky_01:

Dan menurut pengamatan nubie sih mbl luxury gini mirip" lah resalenya, udh pasti turun byk... Lah mbl 300-400 jtan turunnya jg hampir 100 jt koq... :big_slap:

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Betul... statement itu kurang tepat rasanya, lebih tepat kalau dia bilang resale value e class sedikit lebih baik ketimbang 5 series... etikanya jangan jelek2in produk kompetitor, kalau memuji produk sendiri ya sudah wajar toh... hehehe

But seriously, e class mmg sedikit lebih bagus resalenya krn lebih banyak peminat, tapi bicara eksklusifitas 5 series lebih jarang memang. It's like honda vs mazda, resalenya bagusan honda tapi bicara fitur / eksklusif mazda punya nilai lebih.
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Pantesan ada julukan kalo honda adalah mercy nya jepang ya om..oh my





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Nice choice,
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kapan mobilnya dateng om? berarti ini nik 2014 ya?
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Ngak salah honda mercy nya jepang? Ngak ada 1 produk pun yang bisa diadu dan hasilnya imbang

Kalo toyota cukup ngeluarin crown, udah bisa head2 head dg jerman

Belom lex nya



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Tadinya mau saranin diesel untuk entry level luxury cars by ATPM, simply karena duitnya lebih kerasa berharga diinvestasikan ke diesel modern...dan kalo beli bensin 4 silinder, malah kaya beli Accord casing Europe :big_slap: . kalo diesel, iritnya dapet, tenaga dapet... Engine note...yaaa....hening ini kok :mky_02:

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Selamat, oom......
Memang e-class facelift designnya jadi aneh.....
Lampu blkg jd kayak panggangan di dapur emak ane.....
Tampang depan jg jd berantakan.......
Jauh lebih manis yg sblm facelift......
Belakangan design2 mercy jd makin aneh......
Seperti sudah kehilangan jati diri khas mercy yang dari dulu setiap ada model baru sanggup membuat ane kagum.....minimum wanna say "wow".......
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ween wrote:Selamat, oom......
Memang e-class facelift designnya jadi aneh.....
Lampu blkg jd kayak panggangan di dapur emak ane.....
Tampang depan jg jd berantakan.......
Jauh lebih manis yg sblm facelift......
Belakangan design2 mercy jd makin aneh......
Seperti sudah kehilangan jati diri khas mercy yang dari dulu setiap ada model baru sanggup membuat ane kagum.....minimum wanna say "wow".......
jaman W212 2009 diluncurin gw sangat-sangat menyukai perubahannya dari W211 yang super-konservatif itu. tapi begitu 2013 facelift, makin heran sama desainnya.

udah bagus-bagus desainnya kotak berotot gitu malah diganti mletat-mletot gak jelas kayak mobil Korea jaman susah dulu, belom LED belakangnya yang malah keliatan kayak mobil korea banget.... ini desainer Merc tuker-tukeran ama desainer Hyundai apah?

begitu pula W204 ke W205... udah bagus-bagus desainnya W204 sporty gitu, malah dibuat kayak S-Klasse KW3. jadi aneh dan kehilangan karakternya....

dan A-Klasse lineup yang semakin bikin ane nggak ngeh.... what are they trying to make? termasuk CLS bantet a.k.a CLA. plus sekarang mereka mau ikut-ikutan BMW bikin SAV pesaingnya X4?

present days Merc are getting more and more... boring. the classic ones are better.

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Kalo bicara soal design mobil... gak lepas dari Chris Bangle dan bmw e65 7 series. Waktu pertama kali keluar, itu bmw yg lampu sein depan ada di atas, macem kayak alis - kontroversi. Semua pada bilang aneh... tapi kenyataan: best selling 7 series ever. Yg penting kan itu - sales sales dan sales. Org mau bilang produk itu jelek no problem yg penting sales nya kenceng. Sebaliknya produk yg dipuji2 bagus, tapi sales letoy... gak usah sebut merk spy gak ada yg tersinggung, tapi ada kan satu brand mobil yg semua pada memuji, nice design, great features, harga reasonable sekali, tapi tetep aja sales nya jeblok.

Sebaliknya ada merk2 spt Honda CRV, dikritik kiri kanan, material interior menyedihkan (tms saya juga sering kritik.. hehehe) - tapi kenyataan di lapangan tetep market share nya paling gede.

Yg menarik itu kadang bbrp kompetitor seolah 'bertukar tempat' spt yg disinggung master AD7AYA soal camry vs accord terbaru. Biasanya camry tampil konvensional cenderung konservatif, accord inovatif dan design nya fresh. Tapi iterasi terakhir ini camry tampil lebih dinamis sementara accord lebih konservatif. Saya lihat mercs vs bmw juga begitu, sekarang ini mercs dgn design radical, sementara BMW cenderung meneruskan design2 yg sdh ada. Bagaimana pun penilaian secara bisnis ada di omzet. Liat aja di indo lebih laku mana, itu selera pasar tdk terbantahkan.
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lbh tepatnya: nice model/looking mrpkn slh satu factor mbl bs laris dijual/tidaknya, msh banyak factor lain dr itu.
tiap area punya karakter/kemampuan yg berbeda.
ibarat kt: klo bmw ngeluarian: mpv 3 baris dg hrg parts yg murah, cost maintanance yg rendah, & bisa diisi premium pasti lbh laris drpd avanza.

* not just e65, tp jg e60 5 series masuk kategori the most ugly looking bmw, tp di segi sales plg laku compare previous 5. penyabnya bisa banyak hal: slh satunya pilihan dr competitor sblh yg lbh tidak menarik lg (see jeremy clark hate e60, but prefer to take e60 rather than merc e series, cost the reliable issue on e series at that time), option harga jg mempengaruhi sales 5 & 7 series saat itu.

@chz
imho, ampun ya buat mercfanboy
the nice looking merc adanya di:
c series: w 201 en w204, yg w205 nice korea looks.
new a & cla series: all ugly looking car, incl a45amg.
e series: so so, but yg fl skrg ugly looking.
slk : all good looking good investmsnt
cls: w218 more en more collectible than w219
s klaase: plg cakek yg dipk president skrg.
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jivos wrote:lbh tepatnya: nice model/looking mrpkn slh satu factor mbl bs laris dijual/tidaknya, msh banyak factor lain dr itu.
tiap area punya karakter/kemampuan yg berbeda.
ibarat kt: klo bmw ngeluarian: mpv 3 baris dg hrg parts yg murah, cost maintanance yg rendah, & bisa diisi premium pasti lbh laris drpd avanza.

* not just e65, tp jg e60 5 series masuk kategori the most ugly looking bmw, tp di segi sales plg laku compare previous 5. penyabnya bisa banyak hal: slh satunya pilihan dr competitor sblh yg lbh tidak menarik lg (see jeremy clark hate e60, but prefer to take e60 rather than merc e series, cost the reliable issue on e series at that time), option harga jg mempengaruhi sales 5 & 7 series saat itu.

@chz
imho, ampun ya buat mercfanboy
the nice looking merc adanya di:
c series: w 201 en w204, yg w205 nice korea looks.
new a & cla series: all ugly looking car, incl a45amg.
e series: so so, but yg fl skrg ugly looking.
slk : all good looking good investmsnt
cls: w218 more en more collectible than w219
s klaase: plg cakek yg dipk president skrg.
W201 = bulldog bantat 190E?
S-class terbaru juga sama jeleknya kek C & E classnya..(w222)
Merc terganteng menurut ane masih GLK x204 yg sblm facelift....warna coklatnya cocok bgt dgn modelnya :big_love:
(btw warna coklatnya mirip szk splash) :D
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khok dibilang bantat si om, he he blm kebeli jg ni.
yup 190e, khususnya 190e 2.6 16v cosworth yg over engineered itu.

zaman ane sma, celingak celinguk liat model mercy di jalanan, yg plg enak dilihat mata ya yg itu. mungkin krn compact size nya itu.
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walid_007 wrote:Ngak salah honda mercy nya jepang? Ngak ada 1 produk pun yang bisa diadu dan hasilnya imbang

Kalo toyota cukup ngeluarin crown, udah bisa head2 head dg jerman

Belom lex nya



Hahah
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ween wrote:
W201 = bulldog bantat 190E?
S-class terbaru juga sama jeleknya kek C & E classnya..(w222)
Merc terganteng menurut ane masih GLK x204 yg sblm facelift....warna coklatnya cocok bgt dgn modelnya :big_love:
(btw warna coklatnya mirip szk splash) :D
Selera (visual) memang sulit titik temunya. Tinggal skarang mayoritas voters blg 'mob A ugly/keren', itu aja sih menurut ane.

W201, kl dibilang boxer bantat, berarti lupa ama timeline mercedes.

Krn jelas 201 lahir duluan drpd 124. Jd, soal bantat/mekar, lbih tepat kl dibilang bahwa 124 adalah 201 mekar hihihihii.. krn ya itu, 201 nya eksis duluan di jalanan.

W222, imho sih, plus hasil baca germancarforum, benzworld, mbworld, nyaris semua di 3 forum terhormat tsb stuju dialah sonderklasse tercantik dlm timeline mercedes selain the almighty W126 yg legendaris itu.

Thank you robert lesnik for bringing us the majestic sonderklasse W222.

*bukan penboi mercy, punya aja kagak.. :big_slap:
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jivos wrote:khok dibilang bantat si om, he he blm kebeli jg ni.
yup 190e, khususnya 190e 2.6 16v cosworth yg over engineered itu.

zaman ane sma, celingak celinguk liat model mercy di jalanan, yg plg enak dilihat mata ya yg itu. mungkin krn compact size nya itu.
Cmiiw kl 2.6 non cosworth dan non 16v. Cosworth cm di 2.3 n 2.5. Keknya salah tulis aja ya? :D
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jivos wrote:lbh tepatnya: nice model/looking mrpkn slh satu factor mbl bs laris dijual/tidaknya, msh banyak factor lain dr itu.
tiap area punya karakter/kemampuan yg berbeda.
ibarat kt: klo bmw ngeluarian: mpv 3 baris dg hrg parts yg murah, cost maintanance yg rendah, & bisa diisi premium pasti lbh laris drpd avanza.

* not just e65, tp jg e60 5 series masuk kategori the most ugly looking bmw, tp di segi sales plg laku compare previous 5. penyabnya bisa banyak hal: slh satunya pilihan dr competitor sblh yg lbh tidak menarik lg (see jeremy clark hate e60, but prefer to take e60 rather than merc e series, cost the reliable issue on e series at that time), option harga jg mempengaruhi sales 5 & 7 series saat itu.
Setuju.. mmg faktor2 di atas mempengaruhi sales. Tapi di segmen ini sebetulnya persaingan cukup ketat jgn lupa msh ada a8 dan lexus ls. Jadi kalau dibilang bmw e65 cuma jualan merk sy kira salesnya tdk akan bagus krn di segmen ini konsumen cukup well informed. From design perspective not a success but from sales perspective spot on.

faktor lain ada pendapat bahwa saat itu ekonomi mmg sedang booming, jadi daya beli konsumen kuat...

Tapi terlepas semua itu mercs menempuh jalan yg kurang lebih sama dgn design (semi) radical.. sy bilang gitu krn new c and s class msh terlihat klasik imho.

Anyway memilih antara bimmer or mercs, sy bilang u cant go wrong msg2 punya kelebihan kekurangan, but definitely luxury nya dapet.
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melihat daerah mahal...sepertinya pik melesat dengan sangat cepat. porsche cayenne, banyak sekali di sana. Belum lambo.
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Pilihan bagus, om..!
5-Series facelift lebih ganteng dengan velg besar dan aksen alumunium di bemper depan belakangnya.
Belum lagi layar iDrive-nya yang jauh lebih besar dan canggih dari E-Class.
Tp bwt saya seh 520d lebih fun dan irit.., hehehe...
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andrijet wrote:Pilihan bagus, om..!
5-Series facelift lebih ganteng dengan velg besar dan aksen alumunium di bemper depan belakangnya.
Belum lagi layar iDrive-nya yang jauh lebih besar dan canggih dari E-Class.
Tp bwt saya seh 520d lebih fun dan irit.., hehehe...
om andri udah dpt, om indoristi udah dpt, om ahmad udah dpt.... :big_childish: