http://www.greencarreports.com/news/109 ... ir-dealersIt's often said by electric-car owners and advocates that once you start driving electric, you never want to go back.
Now it appears that at least a handful of car dealers are learning that the principle extends even to loaner cars from the dealership.
A recent Facebook thread on the BMW i3 Owners Group prompted Tom Moloughney to post about the phenomenon.
Moloughney--who's now driven three different electric cars, starting with a MINI E, progressing to a BMW ActiveE, and now a 2014 BMW i3 REx--suggests that savvy dealers will recognize the phenomenon and offer electric loaners.
He quotes one owner, who took in his BMW i3 for service and received a brand-new BMW 3-Series loaner car. That owner wrote:
Most people would love to drive a new BMW 3-Series for a few days as a loaner. Not me. It vibrates, burns gas, I have to use the brake pedal, makes noise and is slow. All this found during the 2.1 mile drive home.
The electric BMW i3 has no combustion-engine vibrations, offers strong regenerative braking that allows one-pedal driving under most circumstances, and of course has no powertrain noise.
The owner, to his or her credit, also uses the hashtag #FirstWorldProblems to describe his anguished plight.
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Seberapa nyaman sih sampai katanya yg sudah naik mobil elektrik jadi malas untuk mengendarai mobil mesin.
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salah 1 faktor mungkin krn karakter Torsi electro motor yg udah "nendang" sejak RPM rendah
"People buy horsepower buy drives Torque"
Knp banyak orang menyukai mobil Diesel, karena Torsi-nya yg nendang sejak RPM rendah
Nah electro motor juga Torsi udah nendang sejak RPM rendah dan terus ngegenjot sampe RPM tinggi
Maka itu diperlukan inverter utk mengontrol output Torsi elektro motor dan gerakan start - stop menjadi smooth
"People buy horsepower buy drives Torque"
Knp banyak orang menyukai mobil Diesel, karena Torsi-nya yg nendang sejak RPM rendah
Nah electro motor juga Torsi udah nendang sejak RPM rendah dan terus ngegenjot sampe RPM tinggi
Maka itu diperlukan inverter utk mengontrol output Torsi elektro motor dan gerakan start - stop menjadi smooth
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IMO kalo di indo sih masuk kategori 'useless'b8099ok wrote:Bmw i3 brp duid yak? Pingin



In My Opinion lho ya,,

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Khan ada powerbankbatumakam wrote:IMO kalo di indo sih masuk kategori 'useless'b8099ok wrote:Bmw i3 brp duid yak? Pinginkalo cuma buat koleksi/pamer2 sih gpp ya, tapi kalo buat harian
di luar negeri saja masih susah kalo punya electric car (susah dalam artian pencarian sumber listrik,lamanya charging,kagak boleh di derek dengan 4 roda menapak karena akan merusak motor electric dll) kalo soal harga di pasar UK sekitar GB£30,680 kalo di AUS lebih mihul lagi, masuk indo jangan tanya dah
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In My Opinion lho ya,,

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mau murah itu beli saja tazzari zero di rhys radio dalam. made in imola, italy. two seater, air cond, headunit, 110km max speed
nik 2012 minta rp. 550,000,000 onroad n on single full charge (7hour charging @ 2,500watts) capable to reach max140km (roughly 80miles) driving range @ 55km constant speed
sy pernah pinjam dua hari test drive tapi istri sy tdk suka n sy kembalikan ssdh sy coba coba
nik 2012 minta rp. 550,000,000 onroad n on single full charge (7hour charging @ 2,500watts) capable to reach max140km (roughly 80miles) driving range @ 55km constant speed
sy pernah pinjam dua hari test drive tapi istri sy tdk suka n sy kembalikan ssdh sy coba coba
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Powerbank???b8099ok wrote:Khan ada powerbankbatumakam wrote:IMO kalo di indo sih masuk kategori 'useless'b8099ok wrote:Bmw i3 brp duid yak? Pinginkalo cuma buat koleksi/pamer2 sih gpp ya, tapi kalo buat harian
di luar negeri saja masih susah kalo punya electric car (susah dalam artian pencarian sumber listrik,lamanya charging,kagak boleh di derek dengan 4 roda menapak karena akan merusak motor electric dll) kalo soal harga di pasar UK sekitar GB£30,680 kalo di AUS lebih mihul lagi, masuk indo jangan tanya dah
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Nice info Om NR, bagaimana tarikannya?newrubble wrote:mau murah itu beli saja tazzari zero di rhys radio dalam. made in imola, italy. two seater, air cond, headunit, 110km max speed
nik 2012 minta rp. 550,000,000 onroad n on single full charge (7hour charging @ 2,500watts) capable to reach max140km (roughly 80miles) driving range @ 55km constant speed
sy pernah pinjam dua hari test drive tapi istri sy tdk suka n sy kembalikan ssdh sy coba coba
Ada transmisinya?
Sewaktu ngecharge lampu di rumah jadi redup?


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rumah sy wattage nya 0.02 mw jadi tdk apa
acceleration 0-50 km itu (stopwatch) 4.8sec
ths EV is gearless drive
acceleration 0-50 km itu (stopwatch) 4.8sec
ths EV is gearless drive
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pernah baca di bbrp edisi autobild sering dibahas mobil2 elektrik (murni), mulai tesla, mini E, nissan leaf, bmw (lupa serinya, nongol di MI 4 : Ghost Protocol), dan yg bikin ngeces mercy SLS AMG E-Cell.... zero emission, max torque since 0 rpm..afaik.
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omg 80miles only at 550jt..really really not economical..
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Ah, barusan ketemu salah 1 edisi autobild (edisi 190, taun 2010) yg ada artikel mobil elektrik...SLS E-Cell yg saat itu masih dalam pengembangan..
kutipannya : (bukan pendapat / pengalaman saya looh..)
klaimnya : akselerasi 0-100kpj dalam 3,8 detik, 6 jam (kurleb) untuk menempuh 150km tapi merosot jika terus digunakan 'bermain-main'..E-Cell mencapai 533dk (bandingkan mesin bensin SLS 571dk), torsi 880 Nm didapat dari gabungan 4 motor elektrik. transmisi hanya 1 percepatan, motornya mampu mencapai 12000 rpm...handling sempurna berkat motor yg menggerakkan ke 4 roda secara individual tanpa differential..di tikungan bisa menyesuaikan tenaga dengan grip masing-masing roda
oh ya, Audi E-Tron merah juga sempat numpang lewat di IronMan3..
Tapi kalo di negara Indonesia saya koq pesimis (harga jual, ketersediaan stasiun pengecasan, apalagi pajaknya)...
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kutipannya : (bukan pendapat / pengalaman saya looh..)
klaimnya : akselerasi 0-100kpj dalam 3,8 detik, 6 jam (kurleb) untuk menempuh 150km tapi merosot jika terus digunakan 'bermain-main'..E-Cell mencapai 533dk (bandingkan mesin bensin SLS 571dk), torsi 880 Nm didapat dari gabungan 4 motor elektrik. transmisi hanya 1 percepatan, motornya mampu mencapai 12000 rpm...handling sempurna berkat motor yg menggerakkan ke 4 roda secara individual tanpa differential..di tikungan bisa menyesuaikan tenaga dengan grip masing-masing roda
oh ya, Audi E-Tron merah juga sempat numpang lewat di IronMan3..
Tapi kalo di negara Indonesia saya koq pesimis (harga jual, ketersediaan stasiun pengecasan, apalagi pajaknya)...
cmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiw....

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mudah2an aja menteri lingkungan idupnya bener2 org idup ...
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Di beberapa negara ada "subsidi" untuk pembelian EV ini,montirangin wrote:omg 80miles only at 550jt..really really not economical..
karena emisi nol.
Kelemahan EV ini sepertinya cuman 1, ngechargenya lama.
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Maap oot om NR. Itu rmh segede apaan sampe watt segaban gt? Bayar listriknya ngeriiiiiiinewrubble wrote:rumah sy wattage nya 0.02 mw jadi tdk apa
acceleration 0-50 km itu (stopwatch) 4.8sec
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iya, ini lagi mengkritik dimari bekas yg sebelumnya yg bilang mau support alam, go green dsb. 10thn malah lingkungan disumatera menjadisirahngelu wrote:Di beberapa negara ada "subsidi" untuk pembelian EV ini,montirangin wrote:omg 80miles only at 550jt..really really not economical..
karena emisi nol.
Kelemahan EV ini sepertinya cuman 1, ngechargenya lama.





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mrk mrk yg brani kasih tax discount n purchase price cut coba di liat coastal line nya penuh wind propelled gensets...giga size
bandingkan dgn coastal line jawa yg isi nya warehousing / kampung kampung orang susah
bandingkan dgn coastal line jawa yg isi nya warehousing / kampung kampung orang susah
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again..masalahnya mungkin sama spt di US dimana oil mafias (ga perlu sebut companies, terlalu sopan) megang kontrol agar battery tidak bisa berkapasitas reliable untuk digunakan dalam kekuatan signifikan dan dalam bentuk yg efisien (kecil). Banyak yg menanyakan kenapa puluhan tahun, namun research akan ini tidak menghasilkan something signifikan. Isunya yg keluar ya seperti itu karena behind politicians are those jerks.newrubble wrote:mrk mrk yg brani kasih tax discount n purchase price cut coba di liat coastal line nya penuh wind propelled gensets...giga size
bandingkan dgn coastal line jawa yg isi nya warehousing / kampung kampung orang susah
mungkin di indonesia juga sama.

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newrubble wrote:mau murah itu beli saja tazzari zero di rhys radio dalam. made in imola, italy. two seater, air cond, headunit, 110km max speed
nik 2012 minta rp. 550,000,000 onroad n on single full charge (7hour charging @ 2,500watts) capable to reach max140km (roughly 80miles) driving range @ 55km constant speed
sy pernah pinjam dua hari test drive tapi istri sy tdk suka n sy kembalikan ssdh sy coba coba



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Mending tesla D om.
Bisa autopilot, bisa baca papan speedlimit, 0-100 3.2 atau 3.4s setara current fastest car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbVEkh4AMqM
Bisa autopilot, bisa baca papan speedlimit, 0-100 3.2 atau 3.4s setara current fastest car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbVEkh4AMqM
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benerin link