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kalo ex sabang kurang seru krn sdh harga cartel
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Thx penjelasannya om rubble. Tepat.

Maap2 oot kejauhan... back to old benzes...

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Ya ini u beli classic benz. Bisa order g wagen ex oz dm via used car dealership dili
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Kalo ambil dari pedege sih gak perlu repot ke sabang. Di jkt ada 1 orang yg saya tau sering banget masukin eks UK. Salah satunya grosser warna biru.
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ssssssshh

when the first hand source speaks
everyone must listen

ok ilham silakan lanjut

byk disini yg mau punya benz bgt
sy tdk
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Hahaha...cuma nerusin info doang kok om. Lebih bermakna info mobil tua yg memang sudah lama terlempar lahir disini.
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newrubble wrote:ssssssshh

when the first hand source speaks
everyone must listen

ok ilham silakan lanjut

byk disini yg mau punya benz bgt
sy tdk
Sy pengennya "Hammer" aja om. Atau E500 nya deh. V8 by Porsche.
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@mod enji

Bukan bpkb di TL...tapi begitu mobil sudah masuk indo....apa jd no identity gitu aja....

Dan selanjutnya apa diurusin mudah dibikinin bpkb ama stnk indo

Lumayan dpt merc coupe....kalo duit banyak...punya gullwing pun bisa [emoji39] [emoji39] [emoji179] [emoji179] [emoji179]
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Om axa, kl sy udah dapet gmana caranya mobil slundupan dr tl ke indo bs dapet surat di indonya (sulapan/sukur2 legal), udah lama sy alih profesi jd smuggler, wkkwwkkkk...

Intinya, ngeluarin mobil dr sini msh jauh lbh gmpang drpd masukinnya ke indo.

Bisa sih nanya di sebelah ke org2 yg uda sukses masukin muscles ex amrik ke indo, gmana soal surat mobil mreka.
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Berarti satu2nya cara legal adalah cari kawan diplomat di LN atau mahasiswa, trus bayarin beli mobil bekas yang kita mau, 6 bulan sebelum pulkam ke Indon, trus pas waktu pulang kita bayar semua biayanya, plus "tengkiu money" sama ybs sikit,...sesampai di Indon, dia urus bpkb dan stnk....trus jual ke kita....hmmmm...jadi tertarik nih....
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newrubble wrote:utk bawa mobil dari luar indo ke dalam indo legal itu bisa tanpa siapapun indo citizen pejabat di indo embassy / jadi apapun asal ukan jadi illegal stayer di luar indo. Sy permah bantu (sbtulnya dia tdk perlu dibantu tapi krn dia report sj) satu unit bekas pakai benz w203 estate c220t cdi manual shift dr london sampe dpt plaat b---nnr (lima bln lalu sy liat dijual di dealership used car rakamotor di bandung n minta nya rp.350,000,000 pdhl saat pasang plaat mobil itu najib tawarkan ke sy rp.600,000,000 atau seharga 2008 vw t5 barndoor sy saat brandnew dulu n itu tdk masuk logical thinking alias gila). utk tawaran itu sy cuma jawap eat sierra hotel india tango n bark at moon. that benz worth nothin but trash bin to me (beli cuma £ 3,000 bekas sy yg pilihin)

ini aturannya u para indo yg ingin trash-to-treasure
Laws 17/2006 importation of articles by moving-in indo nationsls
finance minister reg 28/pmk.04/2008 customs charge on importation of moving-in articles

kalo mau baca isinya pls go google with keywords: ...barang pindahan aturan...

intinya ini bisa dilakukan oleh wni yg sdh bbrp bln ttt tinggal berturut turut diluar indo dgn visa sah dan berstatus "penduduk luar negara" dgn cara melapor pada indo embassy / indo diplomatic mission di negara dia tinggal dan tiap barang pindahan harus didaftarkan di kantoor itu sebelum kirim ke info

tdk mahal koq bayar import customs u mobil. kalo mau duit cepat kumpul byk tapi duit di tgn (di bank) sekarang just above poverty line pilih benz yg di luar indo murah (ingat, coupe, cabrio, estate, or classic of 'em) tapi di indo jadi incaran brppun harga
Oom NR, saya sudah copas nih, PMK no 28 tsb, yaitu :

Pasal 2
(1) Atas impor barang pindahan diberikan pembebasan bea masuk.
(2) Ketentuan pembebasan bea masuk sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1)
tidak berlaku terhadap barang pindahan yang dikategorikan sebagai
barang dagangan atau kendaraan bermotor

Berdasarkan pengalaman Oom, kalau harga mobil di LN kira2 USD 10,000.00, kira2 kena berapa pajak, bea masuk, dll untuk mobil bekas tersebut...
asumsinya semua legal ya, ada PIB, B/L, etc...

Apakah pajaknya dihitung dari harga baru atau harga bekas ?

Terima kasih sebelumnya.
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di baca sj smua pasti ktmu percentage nya. baik dlm aturan ini atau flm aturan yg ditunjuk oleh aturan ini
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hitungan tax mobil baru ataupun mobil bekas yg blm tua itu ada dlm tax table. sehingga mobil bekas yg blm tua (mobil yg masuk dlm table itu) di samakan tax imposition nya dgn mobil baru. adil kan?

sumbang uang sebanyak mgkn u govt spy govt bisa bikin ma'mur rakyat nya secepat mgkn
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intinya drpd mindahin, mending beli baru aja
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atau skalian beli yg classic yg sdh tdk ada dlm tax table jadi tax imposition nya bisa berdasar value tertulis pd invoice.
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Oom NR sama Oom NG,

Saya penasaran sama sejarah Merc 300CE (W124) di Indo.. Pertama kali masuk resmi tahun berapa ya? Dijual sampai tahun berapa? Terus ada berapa unit yg masuk ke Indo?
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antohalim wrote:Oom NR sama Oom NG,

Saya penasaran sama sejarah Merc 300CE (W124) di Indo.. Pertama kali masuk resmi tahun berapa ya? Dijual sampai tahun berapa? Terus ada berapa unit yg masuk ke Indo?
Lupa om pastinya mulai taun brapa heeehehehe..

Yg pasti yg dijual sekenan skarang rata2 mulai taun 89 (12 valve), sampe 92 (24 valve).. bbrp nyempil taun 93 mungkin batch terakir.

Brapa unit ngga tau. Rakitan wanaherang, german motor manufacturing (cmiiw om rubble..) bukan builtup.

Back to mid nineties, taun 94an sy diajak jln ama temen kuliah, ketemu ama Abi Yapto (mereka sepupuan), si Abi bawa 300ce pk sunroof, putih. Ntah impor dr mana.

Di gudang sy msh nyimpen iklan2 300ce/mercedes lain di majalah2 indo. Just fyi di majalah plg laris saat itu, TEMPO, mercedes/star motors ngga rajin ngiklan, cm bbrp x aja, yg rajin ambil kapling di halaman tengah TEMPO (2 halaman) si BMW tjahaja sakti motor (e28, e34, e30), Ovlov jg sering di majalah tsb (740 960), pt central sole agency.

Mercy/star motors dulu rajin ngiklan di 2 majalah bisnis: Swasembada dan Eksekutif, itu jaman2 w124 dan w202.

Silakan dewa saya.. om rubble..

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@ om NG : boleh minta foto atau scan iklan2 w124 nya? Hehe... terima kasih om kalo dibolehin. Sukur2 ada foto 500E atau hammer yg udah muncul di indo pada saat itu. Kalo yg munculnya baru2 mah sy kurang tertarik. Beda sensasi ngeliat foto lama.
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Betul om...kalo ane baca2 bundel2 tempo lama Allways BMW yg ngiklan sama pug n renault...sementara merc? Jarang bgt liat iklannya

Dimajalah2 baru malah gaperna liat iklan bimmer....european,cuma sering liat iklan mercedes cicilannya segini

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sy juga kurang faham

cuma sedikit sj bhw semua masuk ckd 550 unit (bila di rakit semua) dgn production code 124.050. datang dgn tiga shipment. salah stu nya mv northern genius yg anchored di tanjung priok tgl senin 24 april 1989 dan unload besok hari jam 12:03 jakarta. copy packing list nya ada di tempat sy yg bukan disini

harga saat launching (1989) rp. 155,000,000 (off) dan terahir (1993) rp. 225,000,000 (off). semua inline6 12v engined (code m.103). harga yg cukup stabil n sales output type ini mnrt star motors termasuk kurang bagus

pembeli terahir adalah pt hartono raya motor, surabaya. factuur terahir terbit thn 1995

yg cbu sy tdk ada data. tapi mmg byk yg datang u misi diplomatic n organisasi international krn saat itu (sblm thn 2003) yg urus plaat n stnk CD adalah departemen luar negeri ri cukup dgn copy PIB selama sekitar tiga hari kerja sehingga bgt mobil datang (tanjung priok, tanjung perak, medan, ujungpandang) plaat n stnk CD sdh di tangan diplomatic user sehingga dari disembarkation port mobil bisa lsg drive away. skrg proses nya enam bulan sesudah mobil sampai di bonded warehouse, disembarkation port sehingga byk diplomatic mission yg lbh suka sewa mobil local n mrk cukup punya CD plate n stnk
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99KY wrote:@ om NG : boleh minta foto atau scan iklan2 w124 nya? Hehe... terima kasih om kalo dibolehin. Sukur2 ada foto 500E atau hammer yg udah muncul di indo pada saat itu. Kalo yg munculnya baru2 mah sy kurang tertarik. Beda sensasi ngeliat foto lama.
Tentu boleh om, scan cm cukup pencet 2x klik di laptop saya..

Masalahnya...

Bahannya di manado dan sebagian sby.. lah sy msh lg jd tki di ostrali sini (tepatnya: negara bagian ke 7 :big_weee: dr 6 negara bagian ostrali)

CE ada bbrp iklan, 230E jg. E320 Masterpiece. Tiger jg tp ini kusus ini saya beli lembaran iklannya dr pedege iklan lawas.

500E atau hammer AMG sy pastikan tidak ada om krn tidak edar resmi, TAPI, AMG W124 300CE full black jd bintang iklan Jakarta Ban saat itu di majalah MM, jg Evolution II, 2 bintang iklan ini merajai iklan JB akir 80an awal 90an yg jualan Brabus, Carlsson, Racing Dynamics, Borbet, Ronal, ATS, Zender, Hartge. Merk2 terhormat semua dan TUV compliance bukan sampahan junk crap rubbish POS idiotic taiwanese brand.

Setiba sy di sub/mdc sy scankan apa yg ada ya om..
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99KY wrote:@ om NG : boleh minta foto atau scan iklan2 w124 nya? Hehe... terima kasih om kalo dibolehin. Sukur2 ada foto 500E atau hammer yg udah muncul di indo pada saat itu. Kalo yg munculnya baru2 mah sy kurang tertarik. Beda sensasi ngeliat foto lama.
Tentu boleh om, scan cm cukup pencet 2x klik di laptop saya..

Masalahnya...

Bahannya di manado dan sebagian sby.. lah sy msh lg jd tki di ostrali sini (tepatnya: negara bagian ke 7 :big_weee: dr 6 negara bagian ostrali)

CE ada bbrp iklan, 230E jg. E320 Masterpiece. Tiger jg tp ini kusus ini saya beli lembaran iklannya dr pedege iklan lawas.

500E atau hammer AMG sy pastikan tidak ada om krn tidak edar resmi, TAPI, AMG W124 300CE full black jd bintang iklan Jakarta Ban saat itu di majalah MM, jg Evolution II, 2 bintang iklan ini merajai iklan JB akir 80an awal 90an yg jualan Brabus, Carlsson, Racing Dynamics, Borbet, Ronal, ATS. Merk2 terhormat semua dan TUV compliance bukan sampahan junk crap rubbish POS idiotic taiwanese brand.

Setiba sy di sub/mdc sy scankan apa yg ada ya om..
Naaah. Sy pernah dengar juga soal w124 amg 300ce full black. Sekitar 2000an awal ada yg bilang mobilnya di pejaten. Di rumah pinggir jalan raya pejaten. Lalu 2005 pindH ke komplek deplu yg masuknya dr auto2000 ciledug dekat univ budi luhur.

Boleh om. Pokoknya langsung share disini aja begitu lagi buka laptopnya. Hehe...
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@ om NG : tapi sekarang JB sepi ya. Menurut sy sih ini mah. Patokan cuma berdasar penglihatan mata kalo lagi lewat depan situ...dan sempat bawa mobil customer kantor utk spooring disana. Mekanik yg khusus spooring cuma 1. Jadi sy nunggu sekitar 1 jam lebih. Atau sepi karena mobil2 langka yg disitu sudah dipindah ke gedung baru di dalamnya ya. Tadinya ada tiger wagon 2 units disitu. Dan pagoda.
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newrubble wrote:sy juga kurang faham

cuma sedikit sj bhw semua masuk ckd 550 unit (bila di rakit semua) dgn production code 124.050. datang dgn tiga shipment. salah stu nya mv northern genius yg anchored di tanjung priok tgl senin 24 april 1989 dan unload besok hari jam 12:03 jakarta. copy packing list nya ada di tempat sy yg bukan disini

harga saat launching (1989) rp. 155,000,000 (off) dan terahir (1993) rp. 225,000,000 (off). semua inline6 12v engined (code m.103). harga yg cukup stabil n sales output type ini mnrt star motors termasuk kurang bagus

pembeli terahir adalah pt hartono raya motor, surabaya. factuur terahir terbit thn 1995

yg cbu sy tdk ada data. tapi mmg byk yg datang u misi diplomatic n organisasi international krn saat itu (sblm thn 2003) yg urus plaat n stnk CD adalah departemen luar negeri ri cukup dgn copy PIB selama sekitar tiga hari kerja sehingga bgt mobil datang (tanjung priok, tanjung perak, medan, ujungpandang) plaat n stnk CD sdh di tangan diplomatic user sehingga dari disembarkation port mobil bisa lsg drive away. skrg proses nya enam bulan sesudah mobil sampai di bonded warehouse, disembarkation port sehingga byk diplomatic mission yg lbh suka sewa mobil local n mrk cukup punya CD plate n stnk
Noted om, 550 unit ya?

Paling2 seperempat udah brantakan total (di temen sy di sby ada 1 njogrok total)

Seperempat lg uda dimodif asal (plg top sih dulu dimodif moncong sl wannabe).

Seperempat lg kondisi asal jln, biasa banget.

Seperempat lg sisanya yg msh well maintained, dan di dlm ini bbrp puluh unit kondisi mint.

Perkiraan asalngawur aja sih.

Di sby pernah sensus 300ce by nopol yg kliatan di jln dan yg ngiklan, terkumpul 35an unit kurun setaunan sampe sy brenti sensus. Dr jumlah sgitu, setengah msh original paint dgn berbagai grade kemulusan dan prosentase, setengah sisanya repaint.

Yg mint bener2 mint cm nemu SATU, showroom ngagel jaya mobil sebelah TB Uranus.
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99KY wrote:@ om NG : tapi sekarang JB sepi ya. Menurut sy sih ini mah. Patokan cuma berdasar penglihatan mata kalo lagi lewat depan situ...dan sempat bawa mobil customer kantor utk spooring disana. Mekanik yg khusus spooring cuma 1. Jadi sy nunggu sekitar 1 jam lebih. Atau sepi karena mobil2 langka yg disitu sudah dipindah ke gedung baru di dalamnya ya. Tadinya ada tiger wagon 2 units disitu. Dan pagoda.
Ngga tau sy kondisi jb om hehehe..

Pernah nelp mereka, temen pesen brabus enjin buat jip mercy nya, lsg mundur teratur pas denger harga enjin plus install plus tuning di angka 300 jutzz. Taun 2011an.

Bapaknya temen tsb pernah punya jip mercy brabus racikan mekanik kawakan jb, reynard kris firmandira, almarhum.
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