Mesin Diesel vs Mesin Bensin

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Dulu ane pernah punya C223 dr th 94 - 2000.....sering ditarik sampe RPM tinggi gak pa pa......pas dijual KM 130 rb ga masalah.....dulu oli mesin juga sering mineral, tapi yg bagus....baru akhir2 aja pakai Semi Synth en sesekali Full Synth
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Rakean wrote: yg 2300cc itu C223 um bukan 4JA :mky_01:

Kenapa mesin panther (C223, dan 4JA1) kasar? karena pake timing gear um, 4D56 pake timing belt

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timing gear suaranya kasar jg biasanya diakibatkan kesalahan pemakaian user nya sehh... oli telat ganti mulu, filter oli jg pelitttt bangett diganti... atau pake nya oli ga jlas... kekentalan ngawur... kbiasaan maen rpm tinggi ala nyetir mobil bensin... dan satu lagi kbiasaan supir2, blayer2 gas sblom matiin... nahh kalo ntuh ritual diatas dijalanin yahhh ga heran suara panther nya garing super brisik...


*pengalaman satu unit panther operasional kantor yg suara nya ancur banget gara2 diabuse kaya ritual2 diatas oleh supir kantor..
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Ya iya lah om..

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y_anjasrana wrote:jd H1 masuk kategori mobil niaga?
Dilihat basisnya, iya...
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vote for mobil diesel2 sekarang (captiva, fortie, passport, etc.), suaranya enak didenger alus2 kasar gimana gitu :mky_02:
(terkecuali utk truk sama bis2 kecil, L300, dan sejenisnya you know lah :ngacir: )
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Kok ane nanjak make 4JA1 Aja lebih pede um.... kata orang sih boyo tapi ditanjakan dia rajanya *Cmiiw*
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^^^
Memang sdh pernah/bandingkan nanjak pakai apa saja?
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MetKet wrote:Kok ane nanjak make 4JA1 Aja lebih pede um.... kata orang sih boyo tapi ditanjakan dia rajanya *Cmiiw*
kalo buat top speed yaa boyo, tapi kalo tarik2an gigi 1-3 mantap :mky_02:

boleh diadu kekuatan nya vs d4d ipah (kondisi sama2 std) di tanjakan nagrek :mky_01:
Isuzu 4JA1-L Turbo Diesel Intercooler (2012 - 2016)
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MetKet wrote:Kok ane nanjak make 4JA1 Aja lebih pede um.... kata orang sih boyo tapi ditanjakan dia rajanya *Cmiiw*
Lirik nama usernya....... :big_chicken:
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Kalau perbandingan bensin & diesel dari sisi bahan bakar yg under spec, gmn?
Lebih cepat jebol mana(kerusakan lebih parah) antara :
1. Mesin bensin (baik na or turbo), diisi pertamax padahal requirementnya pertamax +
2. Mesin diesel, diisi solar biasa padahal requirementnya pertadex
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QnetiC wrote:Kalau perbandingan bensin & diesel dari sisi bahan bakar yg under spec, gmn?
Lebih cepat jebol mana(kerusakan lebih parah) antara :
1. Mesin bensin (baik na or turbo), diisi pertamax padahal requirementnya pertamax +
2. Mesin diesel, diisi solar biasa padahal requirementnya pertadex
Yg paling rentan ya = Gasoline Turbo om

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c 250 cgi=2000 cc 211 hp 350 nm..
c 250 cdi=2143 cc 201 hp 500 nm..

ini mana yg unggul dlm hal kenikmatan mengemudi...n biasanya diesel iritnya konsumsi minyak apa lumayan jauh dgn bensin..antara mesin cc yg tidak terlalu jauh..

saya lg pikir naksir diesel..tp klo isi pertadek itu bau asap knalpotnya apa msh bau nyengat...(maklum pikiran saya mungkin presiden ganti yg baru siapapun mungkin gak boleh isi premium lg)..
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^^
ada skrinsut kurva torsi nya om?
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Mesin Diesel :mky_01:

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kompresorz wrote:c 250 cgi=2000 cc 211 hp 350 nm..
c 250 cdi=2143 cc 201 hp 500 nm..

ini mana yg unggul dlm hal kenikmatan mengemudi...n biasanya diesel iritnya konsumsi minyak apa lumayan jauh dgn bensin..antara mesin cc yg tidak terlalu jauh..

saya lg pikir naksir diesel..tp klo isi pertadek itu bau asap knalpotnya apa msh bau nyengat...(maklum pikiran saya mungkin presiden ganti yg baru siapapun mungkin gak boleh isi premium lg)..
sudah pasti lebih nikmat c250cdi lah, kita kesampingnya FC nya
* not for getaran hater
* not for loud engine sound hater
* not for bau asap solar hater
* not for big torque hater
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y_anjasrana wrote:syg hatchback diesel langka ya... disini cuma ada i20, itu jg udah diskontinyu.....
Selain i20 masih ada pug 307 HDi om...tp jg udah discontinue...
Ada juga starlet diesel bermesin 1N 1500cc, super langka..... konon cuma ada 2 unit di Indonesia...
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i20 masih dibawah 307HDi
Yang sekelas dgn 307HDi ya Ford Focus TDCi dan kayaknya sih yg Focus masih dijual
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kompresorz wrote:c 250 cgi=2000 cc 211 hp 350 nm..
c 250 cdi=2143 cc 201 hp 500 nm..

ini mana yg unggul dlm hal kenikmatan mengemudi...n biasanya diesel iritnya konsumsi minyak apa lumayan jauh dgn bensin..antara mesin cc yg tidak terlalu jauh..

saya lg pikir naksir diesel..tp klo isi pertadek itu bau asap knalpotnya apa msh bau nyengat...(maklum pikiran saya mungkin presiden ganti yg baru siapapun mungkin gak boleh isi premium lg)..
Pernah saya tertarik dgn mesin benz 250cdi Om Kompresorz , tp yg ML class. Lihat punya lihat bagus ini boil Om. Kalau ga salah masuk euro 4 , Om. Tp yg bikin pusing , bahan bakar nya wajib Pertamax Dex pertamina, Om. Cuma boleh itu yg direcommend mercedes , lain tidak boleh. Garansi nya bisa gugur Om.
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Dulu mobil dinas alm ayah sy sebelum pensiun dari dinas active tni au (1990) adalah sebuah LHD jeep yg tadinya sy kira cj-7 (ternyata 1985 ssangyong korando-k7 . Sy ingat nomor dinas nya 123-00 atau saat dinas sipil b-1023-bu dan saat pensiun brubah jadi b-256-tk

Underneath the hood was a cummins 4b i6 diesel ...dgn parts yg sering complimented dgn nissan sd-33 (sy sering bawakan box parts nya dari benghar abri di bypass jkt) dan dulu di garasi rumah selalu tersimpan satu drum diesel oil omega 643 (sering di audit level oil nya oleh org org dr direktorat logistic au yg datang dgn sipil dg baju bertulis ...pt gapura raya)

Mesin yg bgt jelek tampilannya meski selalu dijaga sekali kebersihannya n yg sy suka ...bbrp x sy bawa jalan pas saptu malam ke depan menteng theater ...n saat sy iseng betting ...siapa yg paling cepat dari start point situ ke arah kuningan n u turn terahir di ujung rasuna said n balik ke arah start tafi ...sy hampir selalu menang meski transmisi nya cuma standard three speed matic gm400 (sy tdk tau axle ratio nya brp) pdhl lawan lawan sy sesama diesel engined saat itu ada dai taft gt yg pakai aftermarket charger

Mobil itu sering di ejek teman teman yg tampilannya yg tdk meyakinkan n kaca samping belakang yg model geser spt buatan local

Vibrasi nya cukup kasar meski tdk separah cj7 diesel CKD tapi gas pedal sy tekan ...body cukup bergoyang spt versi cj7 petrol ... tapi engine itu bisa bikin tyre spin yg cukup panjang ...

Power yg sama batu sy rasakan saat sy punya vw transporter lwb thn 2008 dulu meski durability masih di bawah ssangyong k7 itu
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billyd1773dz wrote:^^
ada skrinsut kurva torsi nya om?

hahahha...salah 1 master otomotif yang kalem... :frm_salut:

sori pak..gak punya n gak ngerti jg sampe hal sejauh itu..hehehe
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kompresorz wrote:c 250 cgi=2000 cc 211 hp 350 nm..
c 250 cdi=2143 cc 201 hp 500 nm..

ini mana yg unggul dlm hal kenikmatan mengemudi...n biasanya diesel iritnya konsumsi minyak apa lumayan jauh dgn bensin..antara mesin cc yg tidak terlalu jauh..

saya lg pikir naksir diesel..tp klo isi pertadek itu bau asap knalpotnya apa msh bau nyengat...(maklum pikiran saya mungkin presiden ganti yg baru siapapun mungkin gak boleh isi premium lg)..
sudah pasti lebih nikmat c250cdi lah, kita kesampingnya FC nya
* not for getaran hater
* not for loud engine sound hater
* not for bau asap solar hater
* not for big torque hater
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ya secara spek kynya nikmat cdi..pernah bbrp x naik cedrik sih senyap n halus ya..harusnya merci sih lebih nyaman lg..torsi 500 nm..
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richard t wrote:
Pernah saya tertarik dgn mesin benz 250cdi Om Kompresorz , tp yg ML class. Lihat punya lihat bagus ini boil Om. Kalau ga salah masuk euro 4 , Om. Tp yg bikin pusing , bahan bakar nya wajib Pertamax Dex pertamina, Om. Cuma boleh itu yg direcommend mercedes , lain tidak boleh. Garansi nya bisa gugur Om.
saya jg sempat naksir ml 250 cdi bro richard..modelnya bagus..tp saya pikir nilai jual lg..

ya ktnya harus dex ya..tp entahlah liat harganya jg seberapa jauh perbandingan dgn bensin..ini jg mau lihat antara c 200 cgi dgn c 250 cgi seberapa jauh perbedaan harga..klo beda 200 juta jg ogah..