Major factories reveal new 800cc MotoGP machines

TUFF Stough · Post by **TUFF Stough** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:10

September 26, 2006 Images of next year’s MotoGP bikes and reports on the new bikes began to filter in yesterday as the major factories returned to action at the Motegi circuit for an afternoon of testing the next generation of machinery following Sunday’s Grand Prix of Japan. Repsol Honda team riders Nicky Hayden and Dani Pedrosa were present with Hayden testing newly developed parts for his ‘New Generation’ RC211V while Pedrosa gave the V4 800cc MotoGP machine its first public viewing. At the same time Suzuki tested its 2007 V4 800cc machine with domestic test riders and Ducati rolled out the 800cc Desmosedici for both Capirossi and Gibernau to try. Pneumatic valves are likely to be run by all the machinery with realistic chances next year.

Sete Gibernau, who rode the 800 for the first time, confirmed the positive impressions that Capirossi received at Brno during the Italian's first contact with the GP7. Sete did a total of 43 laps, setting a best time of 1m47.44s

Loris Capirossi did the same number of laps, concentrating mainly on testing braking components, which come under considerable stress at the Japanese circuit.

Loris set a good pace and a quickest time of 1m47.91s, a time that would have made him competitive in the previous day’s race.

Spaniard Pedrosa put in 30-laps of the 4.801km Japanese circuit to give the HRC race engineers valuable data as they prepare the machine to comply with the 800cc MotoGP regulations scheduled for the 2007 season.

The initial shake-down test was positive and after a few visits to the pits for adjustments to various areas of machine set up the youngster lapped the multi-purpose race track at 1m 48.210s – a time just over half a second slower than his best lap time set in Sundays Japanese grand prix.

MotoGP world championship leader Hayden concentrated his efforts on improving his race starts with new clutch parts brought to the test by HRC engineers in a bid to help the American. Once he was satisfied with performance Hayden set about improving the corner speed stability of his RC211V.

Hayden will now turn his attention to the V4 800cc Honda and hopes the forecast rain showers hold off long enough for him to evaluate the performance of the V4 as the test team prepare the machine for next test following the Grand Prix of Valencia in late October.

Team Roberts arrived at Motegi with the first of the New Generation’ frames for the KR. The new machine was built in time for Friday morning practice. However, testing during a race weekend is very rarely successful and team rider Kenny Roberts Jnr struggled to find the necessary balance required for the super grippy surface at the Japanese circuit.

Kenny improved the handling characteristics of the machine throughout practice for the main event and took ninth place in the race. Today with five hours track time the team the new chassis performed up to design expectations and their day ended with Kenny reeling off a series off fast laps under his best race lap time, the best at 1m 47.57s.

Dani Pedrosa, had a best time of 1m 48.210s over the 30 laps he trilled the new 800cc machine. “The first feeling is that the new bike runs well and this is very important - it works normally and everything feels fine,” said Pedrosa. “The engine character feels a little different and this is to be expected but the package feels quite similar to the RC211V. Some things about the bike fees smaller and the rear seat is much shorter which makes the whole bike look more compact.”

“The bike has some characteristics which are a little more like a 250cc but it’s still a MotoGP bike. The lap time today is quite good for a first test – though it’s too early to say whether it will be faster than the 990. The cornering speeds feel very similar to the RCV – though the corner speed at Motegi is very low because there are many hairpins, so it’s very difficult to say definitely whether it’ll be quicker. This was a good first test though.”

Source: Gizmag

TUFF Stough · Post by **TUFF Stough** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:17

Rossi dengan Yamaha-nya nggak disinggung-singgung.

dado · Post by **dado** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:15

lah bukannya yamaha juga udah ngetes motor terbarunya.

p4nd4 · Post by **p4nd4** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:34

yoi rossi sudah ngetes juga motor barunya..sedangkan di atas kan waktu di motegi japan lahhh itu kan kandangnya honda jadi paslah buat honda mumpung semua ridernya disana yahh sekalian di testtt lohhhh...

nahh katanya yang 800cc sudah lebih compactt nihh jadi mudah-mudahan kelemahan Dani Pedrosa yang imut bisa lebih diminimalkan dengan motor yang lebih compact.

btw bro-bro posting donggg motor tim favorit dari motogp baik dari dulu ampe sekarang kalo bisa sih motornya doang hehehe sekalian buat referensi buat yang mo modifikasi tunggangannya ala motogp gitu lohhh tapi kok kayanya susah banget yahh nyarinya..

crayon · Post by **crayon** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:02

Gw coba bantu tapi kebanyakan Honda nich, jor2an tapi pembalapnya memble semua

[img]http://www.mcnews.com.au/motorcycleraci ... warmup.jpg

bung Panda ma bung Stuff jangan sad ya soalnya yang Yamaha, nih tak kasih filmnya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l50ODnwPgdk

p4nd4 · Post by **p4nd4** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:16

wahhh niceeee posttt bro crayonnnn......

modelnya bagusss bangettt nihhhh yang 800cc kayanya ga gitu gedeee yahhhh di pake ama Dani Pedrosa jadi imuttt bangettt nihhh motor hahahahahaha.....kayanya tahun 2007 moto gp akan tambah menarik nihhhh......

mmm cuman knalpotnya dimana yahh kok ga nampak ? seharusnya sih underseat yahhh.....

p4nd4 · Post by **p4nd4** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:08

dapet pics bagusss nihhh.......

crayon · Post by **crayon** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:36

wahhhh mantap bro p4nd4

keren banget ya, kayaknya Honda pake knalpot kolong dah

p4nd4 · Post by **p4nd4** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:52

Honda katanya menamakan yang 800cc ini RC 212 V

keren bangetttt modelnyaaaa lagian kayanya ga gitu gede seperti 211V jd bisa pas buat postur orang asia...

gilaaa jadiiii pengennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn..........

crayon · Post by **crayon** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:06

Tapi dipikir2 kok jadi aneh juga ya, masak wheel base honda panjang banget, kayaknya buat ngejar stabil di putaran atas, tikungan gak masuk kale

anak_singkong · Post by **anak_singkong** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:49

Tahun depan jg akan ada Team baru namanya Team Ilmor.

Team yg biasa merancang bangun mobil2 F1 ini akan mulai start thn ini dgn mengikuti 2 seri akhir musim motoGP 2006 di Estoril dan Valencia.

Team pimpinan Mario Illien dgn motor rancangan Eskil Sutter akan dikendarai oleh Garry McCoy. mantan sembalab GP-500 dan motoGP.

ini dia tampang motornya Team Ilmor..

warnanya msh hitam doff krn msh menunggu sponsor utama dr team ini.

anak_singkong · Post by **anak_singkong** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:56

Ini dia catatan waktu hasil test ride motoGP 800cc

1. Colin Edwards USA Camel Yamaha Team 1min 46.68 secs
2. Sete Gibernau SPA Ducati 800 1min 47.41 secs
3. Kenny Roberts Jr USA Team Roberts 1min 47.64 secs
4. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team 1min 47.70 secs
5. Loris Capirossi ITA Ducati 800 1min 47.89 secs
6. Kousuke Akiyoshi JPN Team Suzuki MotoGP 1min 47.89 secs
7. Dani Pedrosa SPA Honda 800 1min 48.21 secs
8. Tady Okada JPN Honda 1min 48.43 secs
9. Valentino Rossi ITA Yamaha 800 1min 48.58 secs
10. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Team Suzuki MotoGP 1min 50.48 secs

biembiru · Post by **biembiru** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:06

hmm.. kayaknya Ducati 800 udah siap banget.... moto800 eh.. motogp makin seru... hooray...

y_anjasrana · Post by **y_anjasrana** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:42

Knalpot Honda 800cc di sebelah kiri dan kanan bawah. Yg kiri dari silinder sebelah depan, yg kanan dari silinder sebelah belakang. Bentuknya udah ga bisa dibilang knalpot seperti umumnya desain knalpot lagi. Cuma pipa keluar dari mesin. Mirip2 di F1, cuma corong doank. Ini juga berarti Honda pakai mesin V.

Kotak metal di kolong seat bukan knalpot. Kemungkinan tangki bahan bakar. Sedangkan yg biasanya tangki bahan bakar, kemungkinan jadi saringan udara. Ini berguna untuk mengejar titik bobot serendah mungkin.

Btw wheelbase Honda kelihatannya mirip2 Ducati. Hanya saja buntut tawonnya dibuat lebih kecil dari RC112V, sehingga kelihatannya roda belakang jadi mundur. Beda dengan Ducati, yg buntut tawonnya mirip GP6, yaitu agak panjang, untuk menutupi silencernya.

TUFF Stough · Post by **TUFF Stough** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:45

Nice review!

p4nd4 · Post by **p4nd4** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:42

@y_anjasrana

betul bro honda pake mesin V4 sementara dulu sempat tersiar kabar kalo honda akan buat sensani dengan membuat mesin V3 tapi ternyata tidak jadi ketika secara resmi honda memperkenalkan motornya ternyata pake V4 yang sudah umum.

dan emang wheel base honda ga lebih panjang kok cuman lantaran kayanya sengaja di design untuk lebih sesuai dengan Dani Pedrosa aja jadi dibuat buntut tawonnya jadi lebih kecil dan pendek dehh tuh motor...tapi jadi keren banget hahahahaha

ini knalpotnya honda

Bro anak_singkong team Ilmor tuh pake motor apa yahh ?

anak_singkong · Post by **anak_singkong** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:38

p4nd4 wrote: Bro anak_singkong team Ilmor tuh pake motor apa yahh ?

montornya apa?

kyanya mrk bikin sendiri tuh; bukannya Team Ilmor biasa bikin mobil F1?

nama motornya yah..ILMOR

(CMIIW)

p4nd4 · Post by **p4nd4** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:39

wahh motor ilmor yahh ? ada mass productionnya ga yahh ? kok kayanya ga pernah denger..

anak_singkong · Post by **anak_singkong** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:11

p4nd4 wrote:wahh motor ilmor yahh ? ada mass productionnya ga yahh ? kok kayanya ga pernah denger..

gak tahu. ada yg pernah denger motor merk lLMOR?

setahu sy..
balapan motoGP itu balapan montor prototype atau montor yg gak dijual bebas dipasaran.

emang bbrp Team yg ikutan motoGP membeli lalu mengembangkan sndri mesin2 dr pabrikan2 ada spt contohnya thn 2006 ini ada Team KR yg membeli dan mengembangkan sndri mesin Honda RC-211V shg montornya jd bernama KR211V. Hal ini sama spt yg dilakukan oleh Team Moriwaki thn lalu. Tahun ini Team Moriwaki melakukannya pd mesin Kawasaki.

Sepengetahuan sy..
Team ILMOR melakukan rancang bangun sndri pd mesin dan chasis utk turun di motoGP ini. gak spt pabrikan atau team satelite atau team independen yg membeli motor atau mesin dr pabrikan yg ada.

coba aja kunjungi website ILMOR di

http://www.ilmor.co.uk/news_motogp.php

TUFF Stough · Post by **TUFF Stough** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:22

October 3, 2006 Astoundingly, at the Japanese GP, it called a press conference and in an unprecedented move it revealed the complete engine internals of its RC211V, the bike which had won 47 (58.75%) of the 80 races since the 1000cc formula was introduced. Our image gallery for this story contains imagery of many of the famous riders who have tasted World Championship success with Honda such as Hailwood, Spencer, Rossi, Lawson, Gardner and Doohan, plus the bikes they rode from the RC181 of the sixties to the NSR500 V4 and high res imagery of the internals of the RC211V – clearly Honda feels that the internals of the V4 800 of next year with its hydraulically operated valves are so far removed from the V5 1000 that it has nothing to fear. But if you’re a lover of fine engineering, feast your eyeballs on the Honda’s internals.

Source: Gizmag

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