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ooh iya om lupa, ane keingetnya yang di versi 2WD :mky_01:

sama anu....itu kalo nggak salah ngira..di gambar tampilan speedometer..di tuas wiper, itu ada "Auto"..Auto Rain Sensing Wiper kah ?

menariknya di Malaysia ada varian bensin, kalo dijual disini mungkin takut head to head ama Sorento kali ya ?
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Buka aja lgs ke Paultan um

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Loh?

Interior Hyuna tp grilnya koq Inokom?

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wah, cakep bener yah versi malaysia-nya.
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Iklan langka Santa Fe model baru unit bekas yang belum lama lalu ada 1 unit di jual, yang di Depok itu, terbukti cepat terjualnya. Sudah TERJUAL tu Santi bekas 2012. Padahal buka harganya 420 juta.


http://mobil.tokobagus.com/hyundai/?asf ... &sort=dsc2
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Resale Value wrote:Iklan langka Santa Fe model baru unit bekas yang belum lama lalu ada 1 unit di jual, yang di Depok itu, terbukti cepat terjualnya. Sudah TERJUAL tu Santi bekas 2012. Padahal buka harganya 420 juta.


http://mobil.tokobagus.com/hyundai/?asf ... &sort=dsc2

BTL marketing detected..........Dibayar brp ama Hyundai yah kira2.......

Tapi kok BTL marketing pakek nyerang merek laen......udah gak zaman tuh dagang gak simpatik kayak getu :wkkk:
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Bukan sales H miring. Dan bukan menyerang merek lain, cuman laporkan fakta saja. KPK juga ngak menyerang koruptor kok, cuman ambil tindakan sesuai fakta dan undang undang yang berlaku.


Turboman wrote:
Resale Value wrote:Iklan langka Santa Fe model baru unit bekas yang belum lama lalu ada 1 unit di jual, yang di Depok itu, terbukti cepat terjualnya. Sudah TERJUAL tu Santi bekas 2012. Padahal buka harganya 420 juta.


http://mobil.tokobagus.com/hyundai/?asf ... &sort=dsc2

BTL marketing detected..........Dibayar brp ama Hyundai yah kira2.......

Tapi kok BTL marketing pakek nyerang merek laen......udah gak zaman tuh dagang gak simpatik kayak getu :wkkk:
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420? pas di klik 380 kok :e-think:
mau nulis apa ya...
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Turboman wrote:
Resale Value wrote:Iklan langka Santa Fe model baru unit bekas yang belum lama lalu ada 1 unit di jual, yang di Depok itu, terbukti cepat terjualnya. Sudah TERJUAL tu Santi bekas 2012. Padahal buka harganya 420 juta.


http://mobil.tokobagus.com/hyundai/?asf ... &sort=dsc2

BTL marketing detected..........Dibayar brp ama Hyundai yah kira2.......

Tapi kok BTL marketing pakek nyerang merek laen......udah gak zaman tuh dagang gak simpatik kayak getu :wkkk:
BTL itu apa om Turbo?

Nama artis kah? Bunga Tjitra Lestari? :mky_02:
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madcat015 wrote:
Turboman wrote:
Resale Value wrote:Iklan langka Santa Fe model baru unit bekas yang belum lama lalu ada 1 unit di jual, yang di Depok itu, terbukti cepat terjualnya. Sudah TERJUAL tu Santi bekas 2012. Padahal buka harganya 420 juta.


http://mobil.tokobagus.com/hyundai/?asf ... &sort=dsc2

BTL marketing detected..........Dibayar brp ama Hyundai yah kira2.......

Tapi kok BTL marketing pakek nyerang merek laen......udah gak zaman tuh dagang gak simpatik kayak getu :wkkk:
BTL itu apa om Turbo?

Nama artis kah? Bunga Tjitra Lestari? :mky_02:
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Waktunya googling tentang BTL dan ATL...

Makasih penjelasannya om... :thanks:
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Click darimana ? Iklannya aja udah di remove karena dah sold out. Tanya aja member lain yang pernah baca iklan santi itu, buka harganya 420 juta, sampai saya sendiri rasa agak ketinggian juga.


Namun karena langka, dugaan saya deal finalnya sekitar +- 400-410 juta. Lose abt 10% tahun pertama, umum untuk semua mobil popular. Kagak terjun bebas seperti kata sales toyota.


Izark wrote:420? pas di klik 380 kok :e-think:
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bener sih sy juga liat iklannya 420jt..buka harganya..
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Yaaa, copasan dari si banci kaleng RV yang gk ad mutunya sama sekali... :mrgreen:


Woi, gk berani jwb tantangan gw? :mrgreen:

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Maaf OOT... :mky_01:

Dapat dari wikipedia...
wikipedia wrote: BTL sales promotion is an immediate or delayed incentive to purchase, expressed in cash or in kind, and having short duration. It is efficient and cost-effective for targeting a limited and specific group. It uses less conventional methods than the usual ATL channels of advertising, typically focusing on direct means of communication, most commonly direct mail and e-mail, often using highly targeted lists of names to maximize response rates. BTL services may include those for which a fee is agreed upon and charged up front.

BTL is a common technique used for "touch and feel" products (consumer items where the customer will rely on immediate information rather than previously researched items). BTL techniques ensures recall of the brand while at the same time highlighting the features of the product.
Very "touching" sampe "feeling" disgusted, dismayed, distracted... :mky_03:

OOT mode OFF :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Wait till you watch these 3 reports, disgusting ngak :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_BVB4kqp7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3prZUFNqC9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_Tn-CFwy0


Tapi tergantung lo siapa, pihak tertentu ya pasti ngak rasa muak, malah bilangnya HEBAT.


madcat015 wrote:Maaf OOT... :mky_01:

Dapat dari wikipedia...
wikipedia wrote: BTL sales promotion is an immediate or delayed incentive to purchase, expressed in cash or in kind, and having short duration. It is efficient and cost-effective for targeting a limited and specific group. It uses less conventional methods than the usual ATL channels of advertising, typically focusing on direct means of communication, most commonly direct mail and e-mail, often using highly targeted lists of names to maximize response rates. BTL services may include those for which a fee is agreed upon and charged up front.

BTL is a common technique used for "touch and feel" products (consumer items where the customer will rely on immediate information rather than previously researched items). BTL techniques ensures recall of the brand while at the same time highlighting the features of the product.
Very "touching" sampe "feeling" disgusted, dismayed, distracted... :mky_03:

OOT mode OFF :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Baca juga laporan ini madcat, kecuali ngak ngerti Inggris, muak ngak ? :


http://www.globallabourrights.org/reports?id=0503
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Ane rasa, itu lumrah di dunia bisnis...

"Never tell them the truth, but if you have to, wrap it in lies. It is easier to swallow..." - madcat015

Anywayyyy....

http://money.cnn.com/2006/04/29/news/in ... s_heavies/

Hyundai scandal could hurt automaker's growth
Chairman Chung Mong-koo was arrested Friday, his son is under investigation, and the company's stock price is falling.
FORTUNE Magazine
By Alex Taylor III, FORTUNE senior editor
May 1, 2006: 8:08 AM EDT

For the past three years, South Korea's Hyundai Motor has been the fastest-growing automaker on the planet. Driven by increased sales in the U.S., China, and India - not to mention in its home country - it has boosted production by a third and is poised to pass DaimlerChrysler and join the ranks of the world's top five auto manufacturers. Unit sales were up 16% in the first quarter, leaving industry observers wondering whether anything could slow the company's growth.

Now the answer to that question has become clear: Hyundai itself.

Both the chairman of Hyundai Motor, Chung Mong-koo, 68, and his son, Kia Motors president Chung Eui-sun, 36, are under investigation for their roles in scandals involving political slush funds and the misuse of company money through self-dealing.

In late April the elder Chung was arrested and charged with embezzling $106 million from the company to create slush funds and misappropriating another $318 million. Prosecutors are also trying to figure out what charges to bring against ten other Hyundai executives, including the younger Chung.

The affair has cast a pall over the company and the Chung family, which founded Hyundai nearly 60 years ago. Kia, a sister company, was forced to postpone an April groundbreaking ceremony in Georgia for its first American plant because Korean prosecutors barred the younger Chung from leaving the country. The event has been put off indefinitely, but a Kia spokesman says construction of the $1.2 billion plant will go forward.

More significant is the possible departure of the elder Chung from the company, at least until his legal problems are resolved. "The ramifications are beyond description," a Hyundai spokesman said.

Hyundai's problems reflect the cozy, insider nature of big business in Korea, where family ties and personal interests often outweigh concern for shareholders. The events in question date back to 2001, when the two Chungs set up a logistics company called Glovis to deliver auto parts and assembled cars. To no one's surprise, the company quickly won lucrative contracts from Hyundai and Kia, and the value of the Chungs' investment skyrocketed from about $5 million to $1 billion.

The younger Chung sold some of his shares in Glovis and apparently used the profits to buy a 2% stake in Kia to solidify his position as his father's successor. Holding a significant stake in Kia was important because of the intertwined financial ties among affiliates that allow the Chungs to control Hyundai. Prosecutors want to know if the Chungs transferred corporate assets between themselves illegally.

Authorities have also been questioning other Hyundai executives about allegations of illegal payoffs. The head of Glovis has been charged with creating a $7.2 million political slush fund, and two lobbyists have been arrested for using Hyundai's largess to help the company win approvals for construction projects. If all this sounds familiar, it is: A top Hyundai executive was convicted of delivering cash to a political candidate in 2002.

With charges flying - Hyundai executives are also suspected of embezzlement, tax evasion, misuse of public funds, and illegally transferring stock ownership - the company announced it would make a $1 billion donation to social-welfare programs to atone for illicit activities and restore public confidence. It also apologized for failing to meet its "social obligations" and causing public concern. But the Chungs failed to admit any wrongdoing, and their offer of charity apparently was not enough to deter prosecutors.

The scandals have reawakened concerns about the stability of Hyundai's U.S. management, where officials come and go with alarming speed. Last October, Kia's U.S. CEO, Peter Butterfield, was escorted from a dinner at a dealers' meeting and fired in a nearby room. Hyundai U.S. president Bob Cosmai left his job abruptly in January, apparently because he failed to meet ambitious sales targets.

Now questions are being asked about the impact of the scandal on Hyundai's future. The company's stock price has fallen from $98 at the beginning of the year to $89 as of April 28, and analysts expect first-quarter profits will decline by 7%.

Bruce Klingner, an analyst at Eurasia Group, a political-risk consultancy, expects some short-term turbulence, including postponement of globalization plans. But he adds that Hyundai's status as the country's second-largest conglomerate may protect it against long-term disruption for fear that aggressive prosecution might derail South Korea's economy.

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http://thekoreancarblog.com/2012/11/mpg ... undai-kia/

MPG scandal will cost $362M to Hyundai and KIA
By
Borja Melián
– 6 November, 2012Posted in: ., Home, Hyundai, Kia

According to South Korean economy analyst Nam Kyeong Moon, Hyundai and KIA will spend an estimate $362 million to compensate the 900,000 owners affected by the erroneous fuel consumption figures claimed by both automakers in the States since 2010.

However, Hyundai and KIA might be facing a greater penalty in terms of brand image and customer loyalty. Masamichi Nakamura, executive director from Interbrand (a company that evaluated brand value of worldwide corporations) told the media today that ‘this is going to hurt the [Hyundai and KIA] image’, because ‘brand value isn’t based just on analysts forecasts, but also on consumer image and reputation’.

This statements are supported by the tumbling down of both carmakers on the stock prices last week, with Hyundai ending with -7.2% and KIA with -6,9%. After the conversations between Hyundai-KIA and the Enviromental Protection Agency, the average MPG figures for both automakers are adjusted down of 3 percent, from 27 to 26 MPG.

Probably this story will last, so stay tuned to get the latest updates.

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http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 01264.html


U.S. Consumers Wary of Hyundais, Kias After Scandal

Consumers in the U.S. are less willing to buy Hyundais and Kias since the Korean automakers admitted overstating the gas mileage of their cars.

Auto industry website Edmunds.com on Sunday said the "purchase intent" for Hyundai's best-selling compact Elantra (sold as the Avante in Korea) fell from 6.7 percent on Oct. 28 to 6.3 percent on Nov. 18.

The Elantra, along with the compact Veloster, sub-compact Accent (sold as Verna in Korea) and Kia Rio (sold as Pride in Korea) were the main models that the automakers had said could travel 40 miles per gallon of gasoline.

The purchase intent for the Kia Soul compact fell from 9.2 percent to 7.3 percent. The Soul was the best-selling car in the U.S. in the "boxy" segment, which had been dominated by Japanese carmakers.

Earlier, U.S. consumer research firm Strategic Vision forecast Hyundai and Kia’s U.S. sales will decline 11 percent over the next several months.


Masih ada banyak lagi berita tentang kesalahan dan "kesalahan" pabrik otomotif, ga cuman Toyota, KIA, Hyundai, Honda, DaimlerChrysler, VW, dan banyak lainnya. Itu lumrah, dan itu dinamakan bisnis dan strategi.

Coba tanya google dah, kasi search query: -negara- automaker scandal
Mulai Jepang, Korea, Jerman, Amerika, banyak dah...

Buat owner KIA dan Hyundai, ane mohon maaf atas berita ini, ane bukan menyudutkan, tapi hanya membuka pikiran om RV kalo idealistisnya hanya ada di otaknya dia. Dunia bisnis itu realistis... bukan idealis.
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Resale Value wrote:Baca juga laporan ini madcat, kecuali ngak ngerti Inggris, muak ngak ? :


http://www.globallabourrights.org/reports?id=0503
Hahahahaa...

Ane? Ga ngerti bahasa Inggris?

So sorry old friend. You are dead wrong...

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Resale Value wrote:Baca juga laporan ini madcat, kecuali ngak ngerti Inggris, muak ngak ? :


http://www.globallabourrights.org/reports?id=0503
Si madcat englishnya gape koq...

Drpd lo BANCI, Singlish aja kagak LEWAT!!!


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Makanya, jangan teriak terus seolah toyota itu sempurna. Banyak yang ngak beres toyota, pula kasus Hyundai Kia ngak sampai ancam banyak nyawa konsumennya, beda ama kasus kasus toyota yang berapa kali nutup nutupi, permainkan recall, hindari recall, udah jatuh korban masih ngak mau ambil tindakan, sudah di tekan pemerintah Amrik baru terpaksa.


Dan banyak kasus lain. Pula kasus Hyundai / Kia yang lo quote tahun 2006, kasus toyota masih belum lama, dan masih recall terus kerjaannya. Artinya urusan mutunya masih berantakan sampai sekarang. Akibat cost cutting toyota yang makin gila gilaan yang di mulai berapa tahun lalu. Efeknya masih berasa sampai hari ini.


Kasus politic, pajak, ya gituan ada dimana mana, tapi yang seperti toyota, sampai ancam jiwa konsumennya, beda class sendiri di antara pabrik mobil.


Eh, bukannya lo orang honda ? honda sendiri beres ngak yah ? Seingat saya ada juga tuh kasus honda di tuntut ama konsumennya karena overstate mileagenya juga.


madcat015 wrote:
Resale Value wrote:Baca juga laporan ini madcat, kecuali ngak ngerti Inggris, muak ngak ? :


http://www.globallabourrights.org/reports?id=0503
Hahahahaa...

Ane? Ga ngerti bahasa Inggris?

So sorry old friend. You are dead wrong...

Skor IELTS ane 8 out of 9 taon 2006 lalu saat ane baru setaon lulus kuliah. Tertinggi di Sby, perlu ane kasi scan nya? :big_smoking: :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
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ricz wrote:
Resale Value wrote:Baca juga laporan ini madcat, kecuali ngak ngerti Inggris, muak ngak ? :


http://www.globallabourrights.org/reports?id=0503
Si madcat englishnya gape koq...

Drpd lo BANCI, Singlish aja kagak LEWAT!!!


:wkkk:
Thank u bro... Ane masih nubitol kok bahasa Inggris... :mky_01:

Anyway, coba cek link referer nya om RV, GlobalAbourRights.org

Salah penulisan bahasa inggris tuh, harusnya GlobalAboutRights.org.

Ane mana mw baca berita dari organisasi yang salah tulis namanya sendiri...

Mending CNN, Chosun-Ilbo, JakartaGlobe, IndonesiaFinanceToday... Reputasi nya tersohor... :big_smoking:
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Dan redflava.com, reputasinya jg tersohor... :big_smoking:


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Resale Value wrote:Makanya, jangan teriak terus seolah toyota itu sempurna. Banyak yang ngak beres toyota, pula kasus Hyundai Kia ngak sampai ancam banyak nyawa konsumennya, beda ama kasus kasus toyota yang berapa kali nutup nutupi, permainkan recall, hindari recall, udah jatuh korban masih ngak mau ambil tindakan, sudah di tekan pemerintah Amrik baru terpaksa.


Dan banyak kasus lain. Pula kasus Hyundai / Kia yang lo quote tahun 2006, kasus toyota masih belum lama, dan masih recall terus kerjaannya. Artinya urusan mutunya masih berantakan sampai sekarang. Akibat cost cutting toyota yang makin gila gilaan yang di mulai berapa tahun lalu. Efeknya masih berasa sampai hari ini.


Kasus politic, pajak, ya gituan ada dimana mana, tapi yang seperti toyota, sampai ancam jiwa konsumennya, beda class sendiri di antara pabrik mobil.


Eh, bukannya lo orang honda ? honda sendiri beres ngak yah ? Seingat saya ada juga tuh kasus honda di tuntut ama konsumennya karena overstate mileagenya juga.


madcat015 wrote:
Resale Value wrote:Baca juga laporan ini madcat, kecuali ngak ngerti Inggris, muak ngak ? :


http://www.globallabourrights.org/reports?id=0503
Hahahahaa...

Ane? Ga ngerti bahasa Inggris?

So sorry old friend. You are dead wrong...

Skor IELTS ane 8 out of 9 taon 2006 lalu saat ane baru setaon lulus kuliah. Tertinggi di Sby, perlu ane kasi scan nya? :big_smoking: :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
Oh... mohon dibaca berita dari thekoreancarblog dan chosun-ilbo. November 2012... :big_smoking: ada di postingan ane kok... :mrgreen:

Ane memang kerja dan punya diler Honda. Tapi ane bukan seorang chauvinist, ane pecinta otomotif dengan segala kekurangan, kecurangan, dan skandal pabrikan... tanpa peduli merek...

So, next time, jangan panggil ane orang Honda lagi ya... :mrgreen:

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I'm a unique persona on my own..., not a manufacturer ones with brainwashed and ignorance.

Car is a car, i'm looking for a soul in it... To hell with everything else...
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ricz wrote:Dan redflava.com, reputasinya jg tersohor... :big_smoking:


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Ane baru post ke 21++...

Ada race queen baru... :mky_02:
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