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MonSTER_GTR wrote:@dubs but still earth dreams, nothing really special gitu. earth dreams cuma mencakup mesin saja , tetapi skyactiv mencakup mesin, sassis, transimisi, suspensi. semuanya dibikin dari scratch.
Gak juga bro, coba deh main2 ke website mazda usa dan liat2 mazda 3.
Disono Mazda 3 dijual pake 2 mesin: 2.0 MZR buat yg standard dan optionalnya pake mesin 2.0 skyactiv (punyanya CX5)
itu mazda 3 masih yg model jadul (yg keluar di thn 2008 alias belom ada skyactiv2-an wkt itu), tapi sekarang mazda 3 jadul yg sama tsb bisa ditempel emblem SKYACTIV di bokongnya kalo anda beli mesin skyactive secara keteng-an (mesin skyactiv beda 7hp dari mesin regular MZR) .
Jadi chassis, transmisi, suspensi, dsb bisa pake model lama alias gak ada perubahan, tapi kalo anda beli option mesin 2.0 skyactiv-nya, maka bim salabim mazda tsb udah jadi mazda 3 skyactiv.

Skyactiv, earth dreams, efficient dynamics, dsb... itu kan cuma bahasa marketing aja. Gol utamanya cuma satu yaitu fuel efficiency.
Segala usaha dilakukan pabrikan mobil supaya produknya bisa lebih irit. Even naikkin horsepower udah bukan goal utama lagi (gak kaya dulu yg fokus utama sebuah improvement mobil adalah hp/torsi). Semua itu karena regulasi pemerintah yg makin ketat. Regulasi CAFE di US di tahun 2025 produsen mobil harus bisa produce mobil yg rata2 fuel economynya 54 miles per gallon, kalo engga bisa bakalan didenda.

Makanya produsen mobil akhir2 ini berlomba2 ciptain image positif (fuel efficient, ringan tapi kuat, "green", dsb) di mobil2 mereka, tapi mereka perlu label untuk menunjukkan improvement2 tsb, maka keluarlah label skyactiv, earth dreams, dsb.
Sebenernya sama aja seperti improvement2 yg mereka buat di model2 sebelumnya (dari interplay ke lantis ke protege ke mazda3 gen1), semua mazda2 tsb pasti ada improvementnya, tapi mungkin dulu fokusnya beda aja bukan fuel effiency yg no 1.

Kalo soal label, sebenernya sama aja kaya sportline di mercedes atau abarth di fiat, tapi bedanya sportline/abarth itu label buat nunjukkin performance, sedangkan skyactiv, earth dreams, dsb itu emblem buat effiency karena jaman udah berubah :mrgreen:

memang bener skyactiv itu seharusnya mencakup semua sisi bukan cuma mesin, dan kalaupun bener bahwa earth dreams honda itu cuma label di mesinnya aja, bukan berarti tidak ada penyempurnaan di sisi lain (transmisi, chassis, suspensi) yg dilakukan honda di mobil2nya, cuma mungkin gak ada labelnya :mrgreen:
Mudah2an nggak ngeyel lagi..."Earth Dreams kan cuman mesin aja" :mrgreen:
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Primatech wrote: 1. Even honda sendiri namain earthdreams itu inovasi di mesin, iseng2 buka wiki
Primatech wrote: atau: http://world.honda.com/news/2011/411113 ... echnology/

Key features of “Earth Dreams Technology”

1. A gasoline engine which realizes top level driving performance and fuel efficiency.
2. A compact diesel engine which realizes the world's lightest body*1, top-of-class*1 acceleration performance and fuel efficiency.
3. CVT which combines at a high level the fun of driving and fuel efficiency.
4. A two-motor hybrid system which realizes top-of-industry efficiency*1.
5. A high-efficiency, high output electric SH-AWD hybrid system which combines superior driving and environmental performance.
6. A compact, high efficiency electric powertrain for EVs.
Lucu ya, nggak ngerti bahasa inggris apa gimana ya. CVT itu apa...mesin? Dia yang koar2 Earth Dreams cuman mesin...eh dia juga yg ngasi info Earth Dreams termasuk CVT (transmisi). Lucu...lucu.
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Ni trit ripiu accord ato penjelasan skyactiv & earthdreams?

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MonSTER_GTR wrote:@risol1 iya om ane tau hhe pasti ada penyempurnaan hhe, tapi se signifikan apakah penyempurnaan nya hhe, ane gak ngomong earth-dream jelek kq dari awal ane post :ungg: :ungg: :ungg: :ungg: .
Udah ngomong jelek, salah pula.
MonSTER_GTR wrote:@dubs but still earth dreams, nothing really special gitu. earth dreams cuma mencakup mesin saja
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PA detected...

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Risol1 wrote:Skyactiv, earth dreams, efficient dynamics, dsb... itu kan cuma bahasa marketing aja. Gol utamanya cuma satu yaitu fuel efficiency.
Turboman wrote:Sekiaktip gak lain hanyalah merek dagang aja sih
vs
MonSTER_GTR wrote:ya sama aj sama yang bilang skyactiv cuman branding :upss: :upss: :upss: :upss:
Ilmunya udah beda...
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Hoi2 jaga emosi...

Hargai TS trit ini, dia udh bikin trit ini susah payah, jgn kalian jd pengacau..

Mmg kalian pintar, tp tolong jaga emosi & perkataan...

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@madcat apa toh PA? hhe :big_slap: :big_slap: :big_slap: :big_slap: serius ane gak tau :ungg: :ungg: :ungg:
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PA itu personal attack...

Kalo ketahuan melakukan PA, bakal ditindak lanjuti oleh momod dgn sanksi terberat yaitu banned...

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Kalo mau diskusi tentang earth dreams & skyactiv, bisa buat trit baru, jgn di sini - udh melenceng dr inti trit itu sendiri...

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@ricz thx for the explanation
@dubz ane capek ribut terus kita damai aja, mending nanti ane bikin trit skyactiv vs earth dreams
nah kita bisa bahas kelebihan ato kekurangan dari kedua teknologi tersebut. mungkin ini miskomunikasi aj, kalo ane
ada salah kata ane minta maaf, tapi ane gak ada maksud nyudutin earth dreams ato apapun ya :big_peace: :big_peace: :big_peace: :big_peace:
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ricz wrote:Kalo mau diskusi tentang earth dreams & skyactiv, bisa buat trit baru, jgn di sini - udh melenceng dr inti trit itu sendiri...
Melencengnya mulainya dari sini
MonSTER_GTR wrote:ehmm tapi kalo mau ngurangin berat mah bukan begitu carana arusnya kayak mazda ngurangin berat dengan struktur dan chassis lebih ringan . kalo ngurangin berat dengan copotin peredam mah namanya kurangin biaya :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
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Sudah ada trit khususnya bro dubz, diskusikan di situ aja...

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lah sori nih, itu benar dong kalo waktu itu ente ngomong kurangin bobot lewat copotin peredam, ya honda indonesia tentu salah, kok anda ngotot sih. mana bisa peredam main di sunat2 aja. emang enak apa naik mobil yang berisik
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Risol1 wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:hmm....regarding jenis suspensi yang dipakai...accord terbaru ini agak keluar pakem..dimana generasi2 sebelum nya terkenal dengan suspensi double wishbone nya (sudah identik) sejak generasi accord prestige up...cmiiw
emang, penonton kuciwa deh, akhirnya honda downgrade juga double wishbonenya accord :off_no:
yo wes lah...ambil positip nya..less links yang perlu diwaspadai terkait jalanan di Indonesia..hehehe

pertama kali liat ad nya di tv sebelum mobil nya di luncurkan di us ane sudah sangat menyukai disain interior nya... :frm_tumbleft:
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Honda gape kalo urusan layout interior, mrk jg jago desain interiornya agar terlihat luas kabinnya...

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MonSTER_GTR wrote:lah sori nih, itu benar dong kalo waktu itu ente ngomong kurangin bobot lewat copotin peredam, ya honda indonesia tentu salah, kok anda ngotot sih. mana bisa peredam main di sunat2 aja. emang enak apa naik mobil yang berisik
Mana buktinya peredam atapnya disunat? Accord (dan Honda in general) dari dulu terkenal lebih brisik dr saingan2nya - dimana pun di dunia ini, bukan hanya Indonesia.
http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2013/road-test.html Hasil review USDM Accord
Another notable standard feature is the Active Noise Control system, which uses the audio system speakers to cancel road noise. We tested it and found that it worked, although it only made our tester as quiet as a Camry. But with interior noise traditionally high in Honda products, this is progress. So is the standard (on EX models and above) keyless start and entry.
Emang jonpis nyunat Accord amerika juga? Cari tau dulu...baru nuduh.
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@dubz: bro, ente itu dr awal ngejar kesalahan orang mulu. Namanya sama2 sharing pasti ada kesalahan, pasti ada koreksi. Bukannya trus disudutin.

Ente boleh jadi fanboy Honda, tp ane rasa ga perlu sampe seberlebihan itu.

Nobody's perfect, let alone car n tech. Makanya ada forum. Buat belajar bareng, bukan menghajar...

*ane aja yg ga ngerti Honda nanya2 disini. Dan kalo salah, sering di kembalikan ke jalan yg benar*
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maksud ane honda indonesia, kan udah ane tulis. ah capek sumpah udah apa kata lu deh, kenapa sih amau nya ajak ribut mulu, kita share diskusi aja biasa napa.

HONDA INDONESIA, bukan US :big_smoking:

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Sudah ya, ini review mbl bukan fight club..

Kalo mau fight jgn disini...

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iya @ricz ane udah mau stop dah, orang udah ajak damai beberapa kali tetep aja , kan ane kesel juga jadi gak than buat bales :ungg: :ungg: :ungg: :ungg: maap ya, dari satu hal yang lalu, ane juga udah ajak damai biar ini tret gak rusak

@kompresor maap ya om tret nya jadi rusak
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@bro monster: wes, biarin aja bro. Don't feed the troll...

Ente uda kasi gesture baik tp kl yg satu bebal mw gimana lg.

Balikin ke topik aja, kesian om kompresorz ampe tritnya kebakar gini.

Kl kena OOT mah gapapa... :mrgreen:
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Ah saya bukan fanboy Honda - cuman lucu ngeliat org mendewakan mereknya dan menyepelekan merek lain tanpa pengetahuan yg benar. Dikasitau pun ngeyel...
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ricz wrote:Honda gape kalo urusan layout interior, mrk jg jago desain interiornya agar terlihat luas kabinnya...
menurut ane lho,... bisa saja orang lain akan beranggapan berbeda...wajar :ungg:
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MonSTER_GTR wrote:maksud ane honda indonesia, kan udah ane tulis. ah capek sumpah udah apa kata lu deh, kenapa sih amau nya ajak ribut mulu, kita share diskusi aja biasa napa.

HONDA INDONESIA, bukan US :big_smoking:

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Honda USA juga brisik, bukan cuman Indonesia. Poinnya kemana...pengertian kemana.