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ricz wrote:Iya deh...

4D56 yang paling sepuh om...
hehehe.... mesin djadoel, transmisi djadoel juga... tapi karena sesuatu dan lain hal jadi terasa masih baru aja teknologinya... :mrgreen:
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Common rail & VGT meremajakan 4D56 om..

Yg beli PJS pikir yg mrk pake py mesin baru, padahal mesin elsape.... :mrgreen:

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ricz wrote:Common rail & VGT meremajakan 4D56 om..

Yg beli PJS pikir yg mrk pake py mesin baru, padahal mesin elsape.... :mrgreen:
jiah... jangankan yang beli... wong yang jualnya juga bilang mesin baruuuu.... :upss:
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maskopat wrote:
ricz wrote:Common rail & VGT meremajakan 4D56 om..

Yg beli PJS pikir yg mrk pake py mesin baru, padahal mesin elsape.... :mrgreen:
jiah... jangankan yang beli... wong yang jualnya juga bilang mesin baruuuu.... :upss:
Yg jualnya blg gini "mesin baru ini, udh common rail & VGT..." jiahhh, org blok mesinnya sama ama elsape... :wkkk:

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harga wajar kok karena city aja udh segituan jadi buat ane wajar2 aja harga segitu, kalo bandingin sma CUV/SUV yang beda harga nya dikit2, kayaknya agak nyasar deh wkwkww, sapa tau nyarinya sedan bukan suv kwwkwk.

ane bandingin sma city + kan gak mungkin harganya deket2 yaris, apalagi yaris baru udh mau keluar pasti naik harga juga

CMIIW and IMHO

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MonSTER_GTR wrote:harga wajar kok karena city aja udh segituan jadi buat ane wajar2 aja harga segitu, kalo bandingin sma CUV/SUV yang beda harga nya dikit2, kayaknya agak nyasar deh wkwkww, sapa tau nyarinya sedan bukan suv kwwkwk.

ane bandingin sma city + kan gak mungkin harganya deket2 yaris, apalagi yaris baru udh mau keluar pasti naik harga juga

CMIIW and IMHO

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berarti juki kemahalan dong ya... seharga sedan 1.5L.... :upss:
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juki tuh aneh kelasnya , kayaknya tanpa pesaing di range harga segitu wkwkwkwkkw imho ya mod :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

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ZombiEE wrote:Seloooowwwww dat
Loh, kapan ane gak selownya jemb? hihihihihi........

maskopat wrote:hehehe.... mesin djadoel, transmisi djadoel juga... tapi karena sesuatu dan lain hal jadi terasa masih baru aja teknologinya... :mrgreen:
Si 1NZ-FE toyota ini udah 10 tahun masuk indonesia TANPA pengembangan apapun. Gearbox manual ada 2 versi aja, tapi jeroan sama persis
Si M15 suzuki pun sama. Jeroan sama dari sejak 2002.
Si L15 masih mending lah. Modul vtec direplace sama i-vtec.

Kenapa ane bandingin 3 ini? 3 sejak diluncurkan jadi mesin 1500cc paling mendominasi di pasar dan lucunya, HAMPIR GAK ADA yang komplain tentang mesin2 ini..... ane sendiri pernah punya semua dan masih punya 1. Jadi cukup tau kenapa Toyota masih pake mesin ini.
ini pisau bermata 2. Mesin2 ini semua kuat, badak, dan cukup untuk indonesia. Tapi untuk car enthusiast pasti punya komen kalau tu pabrikan gak ada RnD nya.

Ane sendiri masuk diantaranya. Kalo ane jadi toyota *ini angan2 aja, kalau ada kesamaan gaya sama RV mohon maaf* ane tetep pake NZ-FE series, kasih dual VVT-i, rancang gearbox baru. Selesai. Pasti rasanya beda kya si mesin 3 generasi. walaupun bloknya sama, jeroannya udah banyak dimodify, jadi ya 'kerasa' baru pat... wkwkwkwkwk
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datsu wrote:
Ane sendiri masuk diantaranya. Kalo ane jadi toyota *ini angan2 aja, kalau ada kesamaan gaya sama RV mohon maaf* ane tetep pake NZ-FE series, kasih dual VVT-i, rancang gearbox baru. Selesai. Pasti rasanya beda kya si mesin 3 generasi. walaupun bloknya sama, jeroannya udah banyak dimodify, jadi ya 'kerasa' baru pat... wkwkwkwkwk
iya, mestinya bisa seperti mesin generasi jadul 4AGE, ada 16v, ada 20v.

balik ke vios,
1NZ-FE minimal girboks matic nya diganti.
Toyota, please deh...
masak sudah tahun 2013 masih 4-speed aja. .... :ngacir:

*bukan pembenci toyota, masih pakai tokinov*
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datsu wrote:
maskopat wrote:hehehe.... mesin djadoel, transmisi djadoel juga... tapi karena sesuatu dan lain hal jadi terasa masih baru aja teknologinya... :mrgreen:
Si 1NZ-FE toyota ini udah 10 tahun masuk indonesia TANPA pengembangan apapun. Gearbox manual ada 2 versi aja, tapi jeroan sama persis
Si M15 suzuki pun sama. Jeroan sama dari sejak 2002.
Si L15 masih mending lah. Modul vtec direplace sama i-vtec.

Kenapa ane bandingin 3 ini? 3 sejak diluncurkan jadi mesin 1500cc paling mendominasi di pasar dan lucunya, HAMPIR GAK ADA yang komplain tentang mesin2 ini..... ane sendiri pernah punya semua dan masih punya 1. Jadi cukup tau kenapa Toyota masih pake mesin ini.
ini pisau bermata 2. Mesin2 ini semua kuat, badak, dan cukup untuk indonesia. Tapi untuk car enthusiast pasti punya komen kalau tu pabrikan gak ada RnD nya.

Ane sendiri masuk diantaranya. Kalo ane jadi toyota *ini angan2 aja, kalau ada kesamaan gaya sama RV mohon maaf* ane tetep pake NZ-FE series, kasih dual VVT-i, rancang gearbox baru. Selesai. Pasti rasanya beda kya si mesin 3 generasi. walaupun bloknya sama, jeroannya udah banyak dimodify, jadi ya 'kerasa' baru pat... wkwkwkwkwk
jadi bagi yang bilang mesin dan transmisi vios ini djadoel, apa yang harus diupgrade atau diupdate oleh TAM?
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mintblue wrote:
datsu wrote:
Ane sendiri masuk diantaranya. Kalo ane jadi toyota *ini angan2 aja, kalau ada kesamaan gaya sama RV mohon maaf* ane tetep pake NZ-FE series, kasih dual VVT-i, rancang gearbox baru. Selesai. Pasti rasanya beda kya si mesin 3 generasi. walaupun bloknya sama, jeroannya udah banyak dimodify, jadi ya 'kerasa' baru pat... wkwkwkwkwk
iya, mestinya bisa seperti mesin generasi jadul 4AGE, ada 16v, ada 20v.

balik ke vios,
1NZ-FE minimal girboks matic nya diganti.
Toyota, please deh...
masak sudah tahun 2013 masih 4-speed aja. .... :ngacir:

*bukan pembenci toyota, masih pakai tokinov*
emang ada transmisi di atas 4 speed untuk toyota? paling CVT kan? kalo yang konvensionalnya ada gak ya?
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iya ya CVT , altis CVT 7 speed ....CVT tp...
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campoeran wrote:iya ya CVT , altis CVT 7 speed ....CVT tp...
CVT tp apa nih om? kalo ane lihat sih untuk vios, yaris, noprob pake CVT. malah harusnya asik...
apalagi ane baca kalo CVT new altis om campoeran oke.... so no prob harusnya... imaly
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gimmicknya sih di altis gini bang
Super CVT-i with 7 speed sequential sport shift matic & Paddle Shift
smooth banget sih , wa overall demen tp kl masuk manual gak enak malah mesinnya gampang meraung tp jadi lbh responsiv mmg tp gak cucok aja menurutku hehe. Enakan alus2an aja toh ditarik juga udah enak kl masih dalkot .

Iya sayang mmg kok mesin jadul , coba dioprek kasih dual vvti gitu dan cvt sip keknya jadi sedan family beneran deh .....
Tp liat aja pasarnya bisa nerima gak , masalahnya kl dr model aja udah upgrade kok ....
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@kopat: gak harus transmisi yang udah ada toh? bisa kan create baru, ya base on yang udah ada di luar aja. TLC aja 6 speed A/T bisa. :D

nope. Vios punya slogan fuelsaver dan speedmaker. gak akan dapet kalo pake CVT.
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datsu wrote:@kopat: gak harus transmisi yang udah ada toh? bisa kan create baru, ya base on yang udah ada di luar aja. TLC aja 6 speed A/T bisa. :D

nope. Vios punya slogan fuelsaver dan speedmaker. gak akan dapet kalo pake CVT.
Gemes sama slogannya,jarang sih vios di tol,adannya warna biru2 itu,mau tarikkan juga ogah
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Slogan Vios skrg : Beyond (price) expectations... :big_slap:
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Minimal transmisinya dikasih 1 speed lagi kaya rivalnya Honda. Jd total 5 speed walaupun masih matic conventional. Kan lebih fuelsaver tuh jdnya. Sukur2 kasih transmisi CVT, tp rasanya ga mungkin secara Toyota sukanya kasih kejutan :mky_02:
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datsu wrote:@kopat: gak harus transmisi yang udah ada toh? bisa kan create baru, ya base on yang udah ada di luar aja. TLC aja 6 speed A/T bisa. :D

nope. Vios punya slogan fuelsaver dan speedmaker. gak akan dapet kalo pake CVT.
aaa transmisi 6AT itu ada di mobil sedan yoyota?? :e-think:
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nugroho bagor wrote:
datsu wrote:@kopat: gak harus transmisi yang udah ada toh? bisa kan create baru, ya base on yang udah ada di luar aja. TLC aja 6 speed A/T bisa. :D

nope. Vios punya slogan fuelsaver dan speedmaker. gak akan dapet kalo pake CVT.
Gemes sama slogannya,jarang sih vios di tol,adannya warna biru2 itu,mau tarikkan juga ogah
kalo viosnya MT, ane jamin jess eres standar juga susah ninggalin vios... :upss:
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DigitALL wrote:Minimal transmisinya dikasih 1 speed lagi kaya rivalnya Honda. Jd total 5 speed walaupun masih matic conventional. Kan lebih fuelsaver tuh jdnya. Sukur2 kasih transmisi CVT, tp rasanya ga mungkin secara Toyota sukanya kasih kejutan :mky_02:
city udah 5 AT? trus OD off nya 3 atau 4? :e-think:
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Yoi bro, City udh 5AT makanya ini rival terdekatnya koq masih 4AT... :e-doh:
OD off 4 kali ya.
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baca di koran kemarin katanya HU new Vios ini ada internet browser dan ada WiFi Receiver, jadi sinkronisasi ke HP via WiFi tp khusus HP yg sudah support DLNA.

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ricz wrote:Slogan Vios skrg : Beyond (price) expectations... :big_slap:
:ngacir:
duuh... baca dong tulisan dibelakang gambarnya waktu launching.. slogan dasarnya masih fuelsaver and speedmaker
DigitALL wrote:Minimal transmisinya dikasih 1 speed lagi kaya rivalnya Honda. Jd total 5 speed walaupun masih matic conventional. Kan lebih fuelsaver tuh jdnya. Sukur2 kasih transmisi CVT, tp rasanya ga mungkin secara Toyota sukanya kasih kejutan :mky_02:
waah oom DigitALL, bener sih, tapi siapa yang jamin lebih irit? blm tentu kan? makanya gearboxnya harus di RnD dulu. Saya gak yakin toyota udah/pernah RnD gearbox baru buat 1NZ-FE. Opini pribadi, IMALY, toyota udah nyiapin mesin dan gearbox baru untuk facelift selanjutnya. Khasnya toyota gitu lhoooo.. yang ngikutin perkembangan kijang dan corolla dulu pasti tau lah gayanya mereka.
maskopat wrote:aaa transmisi 6AT itu ada di mobil sedan yoyota?? :e-think:
Di indo? gak ada. Diluar? ada camry USA, ada Avalon USA. Bisa plek lsng ke 1NZ-FE? Not sure. Ane bukan mekanik. Silahkan coba sendiri kalo berani. hehehehehe
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