2012 Honda CR-V - PART 03

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DOHC wrote:saya yakin itu kaleng dan vibrator jadul resale value nya tinggi... :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
Soal getaran sama bajaj kira2 selevel ga om?

Btw kalau panther pake EPS rasanya kayak gimana ya? :ungg:
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tenang... bentar lagi bakal ada DIY bkin eps utk panther oleh unta item..
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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c_adhi_k wrote:
DOHC wrote:saya yakin itu kaleng dan vibrator jadul resale value nya tinggi... :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
Soal getaran sama bajaj kira2 selevel ga om?

Btw kalau panther pake EPS rasanya kayak gimana ya? :ungg:
Jangan lah ntar jadi mahal :ungg:
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Abu2 wrote: argumen teknis itu kekmana? ntaaah
Gampang sebenernya..

Kalau masalah safety lihat aja di berita kecelakaan, forum luar, laporan NHTSA, dll...

Kalau masalah feeling ini yang rada tricky.. Mau gak mau liat di media luar seperti Autocar, MotorTrend, Top Gear, Fifth Gear, atau yang lain lah yang established...

Yang jelas jangan pakai media Indonesia.. Review kacau main duit semua isinya...

Tapi enak juga kalau semua warga negara Indonesia seperti oom Salimans... Mengakhiri dengan terpaksa.. Tapi nerimo-nerimo saja :
Salimans wrote:Ok deh crv gen 4 ini paling dull dan argument teori2 ini diclosed...lanjutin perbincangan crv gen 4 seperti biasanya ya :big_peace:
Teringat masa Orde Baru... :frm_salut:

Ok, since 4 halaman tret kebelakang terbuang percuma entah ngebahas apa, ayo kita move on saja..
DOHC wrote:saya yakin itu kaleng dan vibrator jadul resale value nya tinggi... :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
Nah.... Pertanyaannya... Vibrator handling nya gimana? Bisa membuat driver mencapai klimaks apa tidak? :e-think:
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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Betul. Jadi kehilangan gelar mobil dhuafa dong kalo jadi mahal... Kesian om unta nanti di cap borjuiz...

.........:ngacir:
Obey the mahakitteh. :big_cat:
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sebelah mana Doch? gak ngeh ane
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htannis wrote:
c_adhi_k wrote:
DOHC wrote:saya yakin itu kaleng dan vibrator jadul resale value nya tinggi... :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
Soal getaran sama bajaj kira2 selevel ga om?

Btw kalau panther pake EPS rasanya kayak gimana ya? :ungg:
Jangan lah ntar jadi mahal :ungg:
Yoi.....trus ga bisa dipake jalan antar kota di Kalimantan / Papua, begitu nyebrang sungai ntar lgs lampu tanda setir nyala......kalo air masuk kabin trus kena CU EPS.....weekkkkkk.............ilang dah 1 BB Dakocan
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bro adjaya, mumpung bahas soal eps dan hidraulic. mau tanya pendapat aja.
apakah semua hidraulic feelnya lebih real atau tetap saja ada tingkatan2nya berdasarkan mobil?
pengalaman sendiri, hidraulic di avanza 2004, kerasanya beda jauh dengan dakar 2012, padahal sama2 hidraulic.
bahkan utk ukuran hidraulic, dakar punya sudah seperti EPS, ringan deh..
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Tingkat kedewasaan seseorang bukan di nilai dari usia loh tapi tingkat kedewasaan itu di nilai oleh orang lain bukan diri sendiri . .
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maap OOT,
bro claude : OS tuh pake EPS atau hydrolik? :ungg:
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hmm, mencoba sedikit pelurusan soal kelebihan EPS (Electric Power Steering) dibanding Hydraulic power steering :

Power
Hydraulic power steering systems utilize some of the engine's power to take the load off the driver. This means that while the driver doesn't have to work as hard to steer, the engine also loses power -- up to 10 horsepower in some cases. By using a dedicated electric motor that is powered by the battery, the engine can devote itself wholly to the business of moving the car forward. In terms of direct benefits to the driver, though, electric power steering improves fuel economy -- and with it, the driver's finances.

Simplicity
An electric power steering system is less mechanically complex than a hydraulic system. It has fewer moving parts and does not have any fluid. This means that it is less likely to break and is guaranteed not to leak. In general, the simpler a product is, the more reliable it is, and electric power steering is no exception.

Customization
An electric system is more dynamic than a hydraulic system. Not only does it change its behavior automatically to suit the driving conditions, it can also be adjusted by mechanics to suit your exact specifications. Some people prefer to barely move the steering wheel, while others prefer to "feel the road" by having a steering wheel they have to put more effort into. Electric power steering systems can accommodate both groups with ease.

source : http://www.ehow.com/list_7447826_advant ... ering.html

Dalam rincian kelebihan eps diatas, kayaknya gak disebut soal kata2 "lighter"/"comfort", jadi gak ada hubungan penggunaan eps supaya stir lebih ringan dan enteng dibanding hidraulik. Cuma eps kelebihannya bisa di custom/ adjust/ fine tune sesuai dengan karakter (behaviour) pengemudinya.
Mungkin karena karakter jalanan disini sering macet, jadi behaviour pengemudinya suka zig zag atau pindah jalur makanya di set eps di honda crv lebih ringan, supaya mudah melakukan manuver di kemacetan, cmiiw.
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denny3ck wrote:bro claude : OS tuh pake EPS atau hydrolik? :ungg:
EPS, lebih ringan dari jazz.. :big_smoking:
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iya ringan :frm_tumbright:,
aplg kmrn abis pake crv gen3 2008 terus pindah OS. terasa perbedaannya. hehe...
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diveblues wrote:hmm, mencoba sedikit pelurusan soal kelebihan EPS (Electric Power Steering) dibanding Hydraulic power steering :

Power
Hydraulic power steering systems utilize some of the engine's power to take the load off the driver. This means that while the driver doesn't have to work as hard to steer, the engine also loses power -- up to 10 horsepower in some cases. By using a dedicated electric motor that is powered by the battery, the engine can devote itself wholly to the business of moving the car forward. In terms of direct benefits to the driver, though, electric power steering improves fuel economy -- and with it, the driver's finances.

Simplicity
An electric power steering system is less mechanically complex than a hydraulic system. It has fewer moving parts and does not have any fluid. This means that it is less likely to break and is guaranteed not to leak. In general, the simpler a product is, the more reliable it is, and electric power steering is no exception.

Customization
An electric system is more dynamic than a hydraulic system. Not only does it change its behavior automatically to suit the driving conditions, it can also be adjusted by mechanics to suit your exact specifications. Some people prefer to barely move the steering wheel, while others prefer to "feel the road" by having a steering wheel they have to put more effort into. Electric power steering systems can accommodate both groups with ease.

source : http://www.ehow.com/list_7447826_advant ... ering.html

Dalam rincian kelebihan eps diatas, kayaknya gak disebut soal kata2 "lighter"/"comfort", jadi gak ada hubungan penggunaan eps supaya stir lebih ringan dan enteng dibanding hidraulik. Cuma eps kelebihannya bisa di custom/ adjust/ fine tune sesuai dengan karakter (behaviour) pengemudinya.
Mungkin karena karakter jalanan disini sering macet, jadi behaviour pengemudinya suka zig zag atau pindah jalur makanya di set eps di honda crv lebih ringan, supaya mudah melakukan manuver di kemacetan, cmiiw.
Berarti menurut bro, EPS ini merupakan hal yg positif kan :)
Saya sih kurang mahir dalam menyimpulkan EPS secara teknis karena memang saya hanya sebagai penguna mobil biasa saja, tapi yg saya rasakan memang lebih nyaman dan otomatis lebih leluasa mengontrol mobil ini :mky_08:
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Sistem setir gak bisa digeneralisasi, tergantung disain si setirnya itu sendiri juga

Simple-nya : Coba test drive EPS mobil2 Jepun kelas sitikar / SUV / MPV kelas sampe 400 an jt dan bandingin ama EPS nya BMW seri 3 baru

Yuh bandingin dulu dah :mrgreen:

IMO :
Kalo yg ane lihat pribadi sih ke depannya EPS akan menjadi solusi low cost production bagi pabrikan karena proses instalasinya lebih mudah, cuman install Steering rack komplit + CU EPS + kabel2, no selang2 / pompa minyak / puli / belt / reservoir / isi minyak.

Udah itu berat setir juga lebih mudah diprogram, mau berat di atas 40 / 50 / 60 / etc tinggal diprogram aja CU EPS nya

Dr sisi sales = menjadi strong point utk pemasaran dgn klaim Fuel efficiency

Dari sisi konsumen :
ga perlu ganti / isi minyak power steering benar, tapi kalo CU EPS kena air yah siap2 buang 1 BB Dakocan dah.....

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Salimans wrote: Berarti menurut bro, EPS ini merupakan hal yg positif kan :)
Saya sih kurang mahir dalam menyimpulkan EPS secara teknis karena memang saya hanya sebagai penguna mobil biasa saja, tapi yg saya rasakan memang lebih nyaman dan otomatis lebih leluasa mengontrol mobil ini :mky_08:
pastinya positif, tapi kekurangannya seperti yg om turbo bilang :
Turboman wrote: Dari sisi konsumen :
ga perlu ganti / isi minyak power steering benar, tapi kalo CU EPS kena air yah siap2 buang 1 BB Dakocan dah.....
contohnya : bencana yg kemarin2 ini bikin mobil pada kelelep.
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Siang bro, nubie mau nanya nih..barusan ada ambil crp yg 2.4 dan saya pasangin footstep, nah apa pemasangan footstep ini harus ngelepas pelindung bawah yg dari plastik?

Takutnya tukangnya males masang lagi, jadi dibilang ga bisa dipasang, mungkin yg masang footstep bisa share pengalamannya.

Thank you :)
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Footstep apa ya, Utk pedal gas, rem dan kopling kah ?
Atau Mungkin yg dimaksud Door sill plate?
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denny3ck wrote:Footstep apa ya, Utk pedal gas, rem dan kopling kah ?
Atau Mungkin yg dimaksud Door sill plate?
Footstep itu injekan kaki yg di samping kiri sama kanan mobil..
Setw gw gk dilepas gan, liat aja fotonya di gugel..
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Jman wrote:
denny3ck wrote:Footstep apa ya, Utk pedal gas, rem dan kopling kah ?
Atau Mungkin yg dimaksud Door sill plate?
Footstep itu injekan kaki yg di samping kiri sama kanan mobil..
Setw gw gk dilepas gan, liat aja fotonya di gugel..
Betul, yg untuk injekan kaki..di gambarnya ga kliatan sih bro..cuman saya barusan tanya 2 orang semuanya jawab ga dilepas sih..ok deh case closed..thanks buat tanggapannya ya
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kalau liat d youtube sih, harus melubangi pelindung bawah dr plastik nya.
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Bro L111p, alasan mau pakai footstep kiri kanan buat apa ya? Kalu buat injakan kaki karena mobil tinggi saya rasa crv gen 4 rendah banget lain kalu kayak fortuner tinggi banget
Dulu crv gen 1 ortu juga pasang footstep dengan alasan melindungin mobil dari benturan samping...tapi setelah kena benturan makin parah rusak nya karena ikatan footstep ke body bawah malah ke tekan masuk
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kalau buat penampilan aja kan keren tuh bos, yg running board modulo model nya
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diveblues wrote:By using a dedicated electric motor that is powered by the battery
Bro diveblues...EPS di power dengan electric...apabila mobil lagi berjalan dan pasokan listrik putus atau motor EPSnya rusak...putaran setir masih bisa di control nga ya :big_slap:
Kalu di hidrolic sewaktu mobil berjalan dan tiba tiba kunci mobil ketekan dan mesin mati...setir masih bisa di control tapi berat aja :big_peace:
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Salimans wrote:Bro L111p, alasan mau pakai footstep kiri kanan buat apa ya? Kalu buat injakan kaki karena mobil tinggi saya rasa crv gen 4 rendah banget lain kalu kayak fortuner tinggi banget
Dulu crv gen 1 ortu juga pasang footstep dengan alasan melindungin mobil dari benturan samping...tapi setelah kena benturan makin parah rusak nya karena ikatan footstep ke body bawah malah ke tekan masuk
Biar kelihatan gagah aja bro..hehe
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L111P wrote:
Salimans wrote:Bro L111p, alasan mau pakai footstep kiri kanan buat apa ya? Kalu buat injakan kaki karena mobil tinggi saya rasa crv gen 4 rendah banget lain kalu kayak fortuner tinggi banget
Dulu crv gen 1 ortu juga pasang footstep dengan alasan melindungin mobil dari benturan samping...tapi setelah kena benturan makin parah rusak nya karena ikatan footstep ke body bawah malah ke tekan masuk
Biar kelihatan gagah aja bro..hehe
Ok bro :big_peace: