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Duo Ginseng dituduh dumping harga di Eropa ?

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Entah bener dumping ataukah bukti ketakutan produsen Eropa thd Duo Ginseng ?

(Zaman dulu juga Dai Nippon dituduh dumping ama produsen Barat.....halah halahhh)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087 ... 61750.html

The French government accused South Korean car makers Hyundai Motor Co. 005380.SE -0.44% and Kia Motors Corp. 000270.SE -0.84% of "dumping" their cars on the French market, escalating mounting protectionist rhetoric in reaction to surging Korean car sales in Europe while French companies struggle.

"The two brands, Hyundai and Kia, are competing with our manufacturers in unacceptable conditions of dumping," said French Industry Minister Arnaud Montebourg.

Hyundai Motor and Kia Motors are the two main affiliates of South Korean conglomerate Hyundai Motor Group. Together they form the world's fifth-largest auto maker by sales.

The antidumping measures sought against Hyundai would come under a trade agreement sealed between the European Union and South Korea, Mr. Montebourg said. He didn't elaborate on the remarks, which came during an address to Socialist Party members in the Atlantic port town of La Rochelle, France.

Dumping is an illegal predatory pricing policy, through which a company sells a product in a foreign market at a price below the price it normally charges in its home market with the purpose to evict competitors. Under World Trade Organization rules, countries can take retaliatory measures if dumping is proved. Since France is a member of the European Union, the European Commission would make any decision on retaliation against the South Korean car industry. A spokesman for the commission, the EU's executive arm, couldn't immediately comment.

The economic downturn in France and Western Europe, where French car makers PSA Peugeot Citroën SA UG.FR -4.62% and Renault SA RNO.FR +1.54% record most of their sales, has led to a general contraction of car sales. The slump pushed Peugeot deep into the red, forcing it to implement a cost-cutting plan that included massive layoffs and the closure of assembly lines and infuriated Mr. Montebourg. South Korean car makers, on the contrary, benefited from the slumping market in Europe as buyers shifted to less-costly compact cars. They also gained a competitive advantage from the weakness of the won, the South Korean currency.

Less than a month after he first identified rising South Korean car sales in France as a reason for Peugeot's problems, Mr. Montebourg's latest salvo shows the French position becoming more aggressive by naming the companies and accusing them of specific wrongdoing.

A spokesman for Kia Motors said Sunday that an official response will be available Monday morning.

Allan Rushforth, senior vice president and chief operating officer of Hyundai Motor Europe, said "nearly 90% of the Hyundai cars registered in Europe during the first half of 2012 were built outside of Korea." More than half of those cars were made in Hyundai's assembly plant in the Czech Republic, which is a member of the European Union. A further 19% came from India and 15% from Turkey.

The EU-South Korea free-trade treaty was signed in July 2011 and took effect in May. Mr. Montebourg said earlier this month that South Korean car exports to the EU had jumped 50% in January and February compared with a year earlier. He said the increase was mainly in the segment of small diesel-engine cars, a niche where French makers were traditionally strong.

Mr. Montebourg said the treaty provides for the EU to urgently look into any sudden rise in imports to one or several member states of products belonging to a sensitive sector, such as cars. Mr. Montebourg said he wanted the EU to look into the trade imbalance and to come up with a plan of "new action" if it turns out that there is a deep trade imbalance in France's disfavor.

According to ACEA, the European automobile manufacturers' association, Hyundai and Kia together sold 391,511 cars in the European Union in the first half of this year, up 17% from the first six months of 2011. The two brands together increased their market share to 5.9% in the first half of this year, from 4.7% a year earlier.

Recent data from industry group CCFA showed that sales of personal cars in France fell 14% in the first seven months of the year. Sales from Hyundai Group in France rose 30% from the same period a year earlier, while sales of Peugeot and Renault fell 20% and 17% respectively.

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Padahal dulu konsumen di Perancis itu konon tergolong "nasionalis" & katanya mobil Asia susah "gain popularity" di sana.........CMIIW
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dgn krisis eropa ...nasionalisme bukan issue utama lagi ...yg jadi issue utama di EU ...bagaimana dgn duit yg makin dikit tapi tdk mengorbankan segala kebutuhan n segala hal yg ada ...manusia di sana kuatir bila beli produk lokal (yg fabriek nya sering strike skrg) segala layanan ikutan strike ...bengkel, parts supply n apapun yg terkait dengan brand yg sedang mrk kendarai ...brands korea aman ...krn praktis mrk tdk punya manufacturing plant di EU ...kalaupun ada ...ex assembly plant DAF ...itu Semi Built Up consolidation ....unit datang ...dipasang ban lokal, accu lokal, ganti seat belt lokal serta ganti kaca kaca lokal sehingga tdk terkena bea masuk impor yg mahal (selain memenuhi standar keamanan EU) akibat adanya komponen lokal ...

buruh buruh nya ...kontrakan semua, sebagian besar org org turkish n dari ex uni sovyet ...yg sekedar kerja legal cari makan

itu kenapa brands korea makin laku ...
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Kenapa gak dumping di sini ya
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nugroho bagor wrote:Kenapa gak dumping di sini ya
Enak aja..
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nugroho bagor wrote:Kenapa gak dumping di sini ya
Mungkin karena berpikir belum punya produk yang tepat utk pasar ASEAN.

Once mereka udah bikin mobil spt Pansah / Innopah / 42ner sih ya siap2 aja dah tuh..........

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Krn indo tdk punya dumping rules n kalo pun punya ...tdk akan diterapkan thd mrk yg punya strong investment root di indo

Sampai skrg ada 2 brands yg masuk kriteria dumping di indo ...
Toyota ...khususnya avanza yg di mlay hrg nya skitar 225 jutaan utk highest grade
Subby ...yg di tempat lain hrg nya jauh lbh mahal
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klu ayla - agya masuk dumping ga tuh?
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y_anjasrana wrote:klu ayla - agya masuk dumping ga tuh?
Tuduhan dumping mensyaratkan barang masuk pasaran dulu...serta harga unit utuh itu hrs lebih tinggi dr harga bahan baku + shipment + ongkos produksi ( trmsk labor ) + delivery cost to dealer
...selain itu unit yg dijual dgn subsidi pemerintah / potongan pajak di negeti tujuan tdk bisa dikatakan dumping

Unit yg dijual dinegeri tujuan dgn potongan pajak / subsidi pemerintah negeri asal adalah dumping
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Mungkin sebetulnya dah gak mampu bersaing dan muncullah issue dumping sbg "kambing hitam"......paling gampang tho.......CMIIW

Mungkin produsen Perancis akan terharu jika melirik ke SM, nun jauh di Asia Tenggara sana terdengar suara "produk Eropa berkarakter dan tak mudah terlupakan".......sementara di negaranya sendiri sebagian rakyatnya mulai melupakan produk bangsa sendiri dan ramai2 beli K-Car............xixixixixixixi

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Turboman wrote:Mungkin sebetulnya dah gak mampu bersaing dan muncullah issue dumping sbg "kambing hitam"......paling gampang tho.......CMIIW

Mungkin produsen Perancis akan terharu jika melirik ke SM, nun jauh di Asia Tenggara sana terdengar suara "produk Eropa berkarakter dan tak mudah terlupakan".......sementara di negaranya sendiri sebagian rakyatnya mulai melupakan produk bangsa sendiri dan ramai2 beli K-Car............xixixixixixixi

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Saya jadi ingat thn 92-92 dimana speda kayuh ( push bike ) buatan indo itu merajai bocycle market EEC ( sebelum mrk deklarasikan bersama sbg EU ) ...tuduhan yg dilontarkan asosiasi produsen sepeda kayuh eropa itu lbh sbg strategi "merebut kembali" kejayaan mrk ...ssdh mrk dgn seksama pelajari psikologi massa dari org indo pd umumnya ( pasrah, nurut, percaya aja alias positive thinking )

Produsen yg dipimpin oleh federal dan wim ahirnya menerima "vonis" tdk terbukti dumping 10 tahun kemudian ...disaat asosiasi produsen eropa itu sdh berhasil meng-gol-kan bgt banyak n ketat compliance level u produk sepeda kayuh impor ...ada lbh dari 500,000 units sepeda kayuh asal indo yg tertahan selama tuduhan itu berjalan

Tertahan bukan krn dilarang masuk pasar EEC qq EU tapi karena para produsen indo itu tunduk pada somasi dari mrk ...sehingga pada saat ahir tuduhan itu tdk terbukti ( dari pertama mmg smua org liat ini kasus lemah ) hanya tinggal federal dan wim cycle saja yg masih xsist scr bisnis ...lainnya bangkrut krn salah mrk sendiri ...siapa suruh jadi "good boys...for nothin' good"

Nah ini cuma satu satunya kasus "business euthanasia" yg terjadi di EU ...para produsen mobil korea sy yakin jauh lbh smart dari yg sy sebut diatas ...mrk tetap aja jualan sebanyak quota yg ada ...bahkan menggenjot jualan parts nya sbg "savings" bila kelak tuduhan terbukti ( mrk yakin tdk akan terbukti) maka bayarnya akan pakai profit dari sekian % parts sales

Bukan karena org korea lbh pintar dr org indo ...tapi mrk berjalan dgn keyakinan ...walk in confidence to the fullest ...pakai logika n selalu berpikir ttg strategi n baru merasa kalah jika sales output drop n berpikir terus bgmn cara u menang lagi

Ttg issue nationalism ...saya sgt sgt n sgt yakin dgn xistence EU ...rata rata org eropa ( selain russia, ex sovyets, UK n nordics ) sdh lama apolitis n tdk lagi punya chauvinism macam org indo ...nationalism mrk bangkit bila negerinya secara fisik di serang ...mrk lbh merasa sbg org EU drpd org ... ( prancis atau italia atau apapun ) krn smua biaya publik ( baik pajak maupun benefits macam pendidikan, pension / superannuation, medical ) bisa bayarndi negara mana sj n hasil public fund macam ini akan bermuara pada bank sentral eropa ( ECB ) yg kelak akan membaginya secara tepat wkt n tepat proporsi

Jadi org beli apapun trmsk K-cars itu lbh mrpkan keputusan finance individual n yg ada di benak mrk ...siapa suruh keseringan strike ...sy beli mobil yg bengkel nya ga sering tutup ...yg parts logistic flow nya lancar krn jarang strike
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kenapa penetrasi k-cars lebih dominan di EU, yg notabene nya ketat sekali rules nya, tapi di indo malah kurang penetrasinya ya?
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blacksnake wrote:kenapa penetrasi k-cars lebih dominan di EU, yg notabene nya ketat sekali rules nya, tapi di indo malah kurang penetrasinya ya?
Nah sy lagi buka " EU compliance reference for passenger car application " judul sy singkat sj krn ini refrensi internal salah1 klien ...intinya ada sekitarn 758,000 units koreancars masuk EU market per jan- des 2012 ...blm di hitung yg masuk UK, nordic states, russia ...kecil memang

Koreancars yg masuk EU punya compliance level yg sama persis dgn yg dibuat u pasar korea ...bukan krn pasar korea ketat seketat EU maupun US tapi ...ngirit ...

Hrsnya tiap unit yg mendarat di EU bisa langsung plug n play tanpa harus ganti kaca, seatbelt, ban, battery serta hal kecil lain ...tapi hal itu akan menjadi mahal akibat unit terkena definisi mobil impor pada umumnya n tdk bikin lapangan kerja pada buruh EU ...sehingga lbh murah tiap unit di ganti bbrp hal dgn total pengerjaan tiap unit tdk lebih dari 5 jam termasuk PDI ( pre delivery inspection yg mrk barengi dgn certificate of roadworthyness test di tiap negeri EU )

Selain itu lbh mudah jualan di EU meskipun lbh untung jualan di indo utk hitungan per unit. Karena indo market tdk mengenal safety rating, crash test, flammability level, rollover alert, metal n nonmetal composition application n banyak lagi ...cukup test uji tipe di kemenperin-ri n thats it ...rock n roll...

Tapi ...purchasing power rata rata penduduk indo itu cuma seperdelapan nya EU ...saya tdk bicara income per capita ...tapi brp yg di belanjakan u urusan transportasi ....

Korean domestic market itu LHD sedang indo itu RHD ...samakah dgn UKDM ...utk steering ya tapi kalo unit UKDM dijual di indo harganya akan jauh lbh mahal dr unit yg ada di dalam garasi anda di jkt krn ...faktor pajak atau tax imposition ...contoh ...Kia sportage UKDM yg sama dgn AusDM serta southafricanDM dan british commonwealth DM lainnya itu all whell drive yg masih semi mekanis sehingga dalam kriteria pajak indo masuk dlm golongan gardan ganda ( lain dgn subby di indo yg full electronic shg masuk dlm kriteria ...2wd krn saat di uji gerak statis ...4 roda semua tergantung ...subby hanya bergerak 2 roda saja ) ...jadi perangkat allwheeldrive kia sportage n hyun tucson harus di konversi jadi front wd ...itu xtra cost

Kaca di indo harus bersertifikat SNI ...jadilah hankook bikin assembly line sendiri u urusan kaca iu ( sebetulnya mrk untung besar ...thickness nya di bawah EU compliance ) ....org indo lbh suka cat yg
xtra shine bukan xtra strong ...ya xtra cost juga ...terus tropikalisasi ...wiring harness, battery fluid, paint protection, air filter ( indo market tdk cocok yg multi particle krn intensitas debu yg tinggi ...bisa mampet itu dlm wkt 3 bln ) dan ...fuel injection yg hrs tetap sehat meski tenggak bensin
sulphur tinggi campur uap air ...ohia fuel tank di indo harus berventilasi karena material nya terbuat dari metal ...krn sifat bensin nya yg kurang bagus bila pakai fuel tank asli berbahan komposit ringan

Ganti catalytic converter jadi yg berbahan aluminum juga xtra cost

Shipment ke indo dari korea juga jauh lbh mahal drpd ke EU meski jaraknya lbh dekat karena ...hrs
trans- shipment dulu di spore atau HK atau port klang, malay krn pelabuhan utama indo bkn pelabuhan samudera yg punya depth level standar ...harus di keruk secara periodik krn sedimen lumpur yg tinggi akibat sifat tanah nya ...priok maupun perak itu laut pedalaman sehingga mrk di
trans shipment area harus ganti kapal yg volume lbh kecil utk memudahkan pilot-ing di tujuan ahir indo

Sy tdk punya referensi ttg brapa volume hasil penjualan mobil korea di indo tapi perkiraan skitar 12,000 units utk 2012 ini ...kecil n jualan di indo perlu local partner ( bukan foreign investment manufacturing ya tapi ...jualan, marketing n sales lah ) utk agar hambatan birokrasi lbh money-wise
...kapal datang mau offload ...hrs antri n apakah gratis u ambil nomor antrian serta crane? Anda lbhntau dari saya ...utk masuk ke indo hrs punya angka-pengenal-importir dan itu tdk gratis baik resmi maupun ...trus truk angkut di jalan juga sering "bayar toll selain di gardu toll" meski mrk tdk
berada di jln toll ( smg tau maksud saya )

Satu lagi...prinsip pajak EU itu sama dgn US, Can serta negri negri lan trmsk british commonwealth ... 1 barang itu cuma dikenakan 1 pajak n tdk boleh berlapis alias ... 1 unit is 1 tax maximum

Nah itu sekilas knp jualan di EU jauh lbh mudah drpd di ( katakanlah ) jkt ...
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Turboman wrote::frm_salut: :frm_salut: :frm_salut: om newrubble ini benar2 kamus berjalan yang mengagumkan :frm_salut: :frm_salut: :frm_salut:

saya betul2 appreciate tulisan analisa berdasarkan sejarah nyata dan realita nyata masa kini.
Betul2 n saya baru baca juga kata2 logika,salute
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Market share duo ginseng meningkat terus di Eropa, berarti produknya udah banyak diterima masyarakat sana dan masuk akal utk konsumen otomotif disana ya (masyarakat Eropa termasuk org Skeptis bukan ya?), kenapa di Indonesia merk Korea msh dipandang sebelah mata, apa krn produk yg keluar disini bnyk downgrade..
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grandscenic wrote:Market share duo ginseng meningkat terus di Eropa ..., kenapa di Indonesia merk Korea msh dipandang sebelah mata, apa krn produk yg keluar disini bnyk downgrade..
Ini situasi terbalik antara asia dgn EU ...di EU mobil korea itu spt mobil jepang ...lbh mahal dr mobil domestik EU bila kita samakan satu dgn yg lain dlm line up yg sama

Yg penghasilannya pas pas an ...beli brand domestik ...yg lebih mapan dgn kerjaan sama persis ...beli brand japan atau ,..korea ...krn pajak nya lbh mahal ...tapi brands japan n korea memberi rentang wkt warranty lbh lama dgn mileage lbh drpd EU brands pd umumnya yg sekelas ...itu sebab market brands korea (n japan) cenderung ...bullish ( up trend ) sbg kebalikan maket brands lokal yg bearish ( down trend ) ...ingat sdh masuk thn kedua EU lagi krisis ekonomi ...org org nya lbh miskin dibanding 3 th lalu ...tentunya mrk lbh nyaman pakai mobil yg factory warranty nya lbh lama ...tadinya mrk umumnya ganti mobil tiap 5 tahun n skrg tiap 7 tahun

Sbtulnya semua pemilik mobil dimanapun didunia tdk ada yg loyal ( mgkn dgn kekecualian indo krn org indo punya loyalty level tertinggi di dunia ...bangsa yg ngabdi ...yg sering bikin pusing para ahli psikologi massa di manapun ) ....yg ada di dunia adalah ...para customers yg terpuaskan ...serta para customers yg realistis ...nah para customers yg realistis ini di sebut ...floating mass... Mrk akan pergi membeli brand apapun mobil atau bukan mobil ...barang atau jasa ...sepanjang brand tersebut bisa memberikan tingkat-kepuasan yg lbh tinggi dari brand yg aebelumnya mrk miliki

Dalam masyarakat dikenal bbrp level ekonomi ( dlm hal ini, yg sanggup beli mobil ...tunai maupun cicil ) taruhlah menengahbawah, menengah, menengahatas dan kaya ...nah utk jualan mobil agar tdk dilirik dgn satumata ...segmentai di tiap level ekonomi hrs di isi

Toyota sdh menaruh lexus utk kasta ekonomi tertinggi indo, alphd n crown n prius n camry utk
menengah atas (prius sy taruh di sini krn ...hingga skrg di indo ...driving hybrid is a lifestyle ...lain di EU n US is a matter of huge government subsidy)

Level menengah sdh di letakkan corolla n kijang n noah bentar lagi

Entry level ada avanza n yaris ...atau plus vios

Taruhlah semua saya letakkan dgn benar ( maaf kalo salah, tapi point nya bukan ini) ...faktanya TAM memberikan aftersales quality yg sama baik antara pembeli entry level economic kasta dgn pembeli high end macam lexus ...

Langkah selanjutnya untuk pasti merebut hati para pemilik toyota di indo...produk korea hrs melakukan effort yg lebih dari apa yg dilakukan TAM qq auto 2000 selama ink ...buyback warranty bknlah metode effective lagi di indo. Adakah brands korea memberi homeservice spthal nya auto 2000 qq TAM sgt dikenal masyarakat dgn THS nya?

Adakah brands korea melakukan massive commercial promo spt yg di lakukan japan yg satu itu?

Ada pulakah pembeli brand korea ex armada taxi yg terpuaskan ...spt pembeli brand japan ex taxi BB yg melangkah ke bengkel resmi n mendapatkan fakta bahwa service n repair history
selama operasional sbg taxi BB ternyata ada tercatat data lengkapnya di SAP software bengkel auto 2000?

Misal saya spt dubes korsel di jkt yg menunggang CD 75-01 hyundai dynasty dan backup car nya CD 75-02 hyundai centennial ...n pergi ke bengkel resmi hyundai u service, part replacement ...brp lama di butuhkan bengkel resmi hyundai u order ...misalnya lampu belakang ke hyundai global part center di kwangju? Sebagai fakta ...Auto2000 tebet pernah order automatic dimmer front headlight toyota new century thn 2010 punya RG sang petinggi panasonic indonesia ke japan ...n barang datang 3 minggu kemudian dari nagoya ...

Hal hal kecil diatas bisa dilakukan oleh brands korea di indo agar tdk lagi dipandang satu mata oleh indo public ...
1. Tiap segment ekonomi hrs ada line up productnya n jelas messagenya
2. Excellent aftersales treatment utk buyer dari semua lineup levels
3. Parts logistic yg hrs mampu meladeni para penggunanya di indo...meski mobilnya cuma 1 di indo
4. Ini yg blm saya komentari ...mau kalahkan toyota di indo...ya juga hrs fokus manufacturing

Ingat dibelakang TAM ada jardine cycle n carriage ...cycle n carriage dirikan di malay th 1899 oleh keluarga chua ...merakit benz di malay sdh lama ...jualan retail benz, citroen, mitsi, kia di malay n spore ...jardine matheson (partner merger cycle n carriage) punya basis industri dari kacang kemasan hingga gold insulator space shuttle serta 350 jenis usaha lain di seluruh dunia trmsk property

Ingat di belakang kia indo ada grup A...G...yg bisnisnya mencakup .... Didirikan thn .... Kapitalisasi modalnya ...... saya ngga bisa isi ini. Anda lbh tau
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Nubie tambahken & CMIIW first :
ATPM mobil Ginseng kembali lagi gak ada support kuat dr Principal

berbeda dgn TAM dimana TMC pegang mayoritas saham, demikian pula HoMoCo di HPM, NisMoCo di NMI

ATPM mobil2 ginseng di Indo baik si H maupun si K dari dulu mindsetnya ahli jualan ke persh Taxi / travel dan instansi, walau skg utk H miring mrk berupaya memperkuat di retail, lalu membajak para veteran spt Mr Bbn Dj dari Suziku dan Mr. Mu Sk dari GMI.

kelemahan Duo Ginseng di ASEAN = mereka belum punya pabrik yg benar2 solid (skala besar) utk bisa mendapat fasilitas pajak khusus

Terus terang ane sendiri heran knp Duo Ginseng mobil masih spt melihat lihat dulu pasar ASEAN, beda dgn di US / UE / China mereka bergerak scr Full Force.

Tapi masuknya Hankook & Posco (JV with KS) apakah akan menjadi fondasi utk masuknya investasi pabrik sekala besar oleh H & K ?

Ane feeling suatu hari jika mereka sudah ketok palu utk Full Force di pasar ASEAN, mestinya mereka akan rilis model2 khusus utk pasar ASEAN, terutama buat compete lawan Duo Kaleng, si Ipeh, juga 42ner & sebangsanya.

Utk pesaing 42ner mestinya mereka bisa bangun dari blueprint chassis Terracan.

Jika mereka membuat MPV CRDi dgn chassis steel ladder maka mereka juga bisa pasarkan di India selain Indo, Pilipino & Malay

IMO & CMIIW
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Turboman wrote:Nubie tambahken & CMIIW first :...
Terus terang ane sendiri heran knp Duo Ginseng mobil masih spt melihat lihat dulu pasar ASEAN, beda dgn di US / UE / China mereka bergerak scr Full Force.

Tapi masuknya Hankook & Posco (JV with KS) apakah akan menjadi fondasi utk masuknya investasi pabrik sekala besar oleh H & K ? ...
Ane feeling suatu hari jika mereka sudah ketok palu utk Full Force di pasar ASEAN, mestinya mereka akan rilis model2 khusus utk pasar ASEAN....

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Pasar asean ...penuh penyamun di negri terbesarnya ...mrk gemar ambil uang rakyatnya dgn alasan pajak ini itu, bea ini itu, sumbangan wajib ini itu untuk tiap 1 benda yg wujudnya tdk berubah n nilainya tdk bisa lepas dari depresiasi ( baca: mobil )...anda suka maupun tak suka ...para investor asing melihat itu ...spt mrk lihat kebijakan yg tiba tiba keluar pdhl tdk ada pembicaraan sebelumnya ...persis spt apa yg kita lakukan saat perut penuh n toilet ada di dpn mata ...maafkan kalimat saya ini ...tapi satu CEO dari detroit pernah bilang ini ke saya ...tanpa terlebih dulu minum sebotol whiskey...

Posco memang ada ...tapi itu utk kepentingan industri maritim ...krn lbh murah memproses iron ore australia di cilegon drpd hrs dibawa ke pohang ...n hasilnya jauh lbh baik drpd meleburnya di bhushang ...dgn 1 strong point ...cheap labor cost ( selama tdk di komporin jadi mahal )

Utk indo market ...tdk usah pusing pusing ...jualan barang jelek dgn aftersales quality terbaik pasti laku drpd jualan barang bagus dgn aftersales quality buruk ....TAM sdh membuktikannya utk sisi sukses ...bbrp dibwh IM sdh membuktikannya utk sisi kebalikannya
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kuncinya pelayanan ya om... antara pemilik kendaraan paling lux dan paling murah dpt pelayanan yg sama. selama yg lain msh lemah utk pelayanan, posisi tam cukup aman....
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