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Segala mobil tipe SUV (2WD/4WD). (Cherokee, Terios, Rush, dll).
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Good_boy86
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by Good_boy86 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 16:00
claude_wallace wrote: IMHO, fortuner dan CRV beda customer deh..
Peminatnya ada sendiri2.. 2 row and 3 row.
Yg pasti terganggu penjualannya ya PS dan Captiva. hahaha..
Captiva laen segmen dong.. Saingan captiva ya crv xtrail itu. Hehe
Kalo fortuner ya ps dan trailblazer dan ford everest. Cmiiw
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by claude_wallace » Tue Aug 21, 2012 16:45
kok tetap tidak adil ya bandingin captiva dengan crv xtrail, mungkin dari harga saja selevel.
tapi diesel dan 3 row nya juga harus diperhitungin saat bandingin mobil.
soalnya captiva laku karena dieselnya saja. yg bensin mau jungkir balik gimana juga tdk bakal laku.
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by FortunerMan » Tue Aug 21, 2012 16:59
Ada banyak cara meng-segmentasi mobil, tergantung masing2. Bisa dr harga, bisa dr jumlah tempat duduk, bisa dr jenis platform (unibody atau ladder frame), dst.
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by Turboman » Tue Aug 21, 2012 17:03
Yuk kita analisa
42ner Matic 4 Sp 2KD-FTV :
Gigi 1 = 2.804
Gigi 2 = 1.531
Gigi 3 = 1.000
Gigi 4 = 0.753
FG = 4.555
42ner Matic 5 Sp 2 KD-FTV VN T (Thai) :
Gigi 1 = 3.520
Gigi 2 = 2.042
Gigi 3 = 1.400
Gigi 4 = 1.000
Gigi 5 = 0.716
FG = 3.909
Dengan ukuran ban yg sama sama 265 / 65 R 17 maka kombinasi gigi 5 Speed ini rentangnya lebih luas dimana gigi 1 nya lebih "pendek" dan gigi 5 nya lebih "panjang" daripada gigi 1 dan gigi 4 si matic 4 speed.
Dengan demikian saat lari 100 km/jam RPM bisa lebih rendah dan suara mesin terdengar lebih halus drpd D4 D dgn Matic 4 speed.
Saat overtake juga lebih enak, penyaluran Power lebih optimal krn jumlah gigi lebih banyak, apalagi mesin dah 144 Hp
tapi kalao utk keperluan extreme spt Dragrace, jangan2 yg 4 sp metik lebih enak kali ya ? scr ganti gigi lebih dikit, kehilangan waktu saat shfiting lebih sedikit. CMIIW
Sumber data : web TAM dan Toyota.co.th
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by Good_boy86 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 18:02
claude_wallace wrote: kok tetap tidak adil ya bandingin captiva dengan crv xtrail, mungkin dari harga saja selevel.
tapi diesel dan 3 row nya juga harus diperhitungin saat bandingin mobil.
soalnya captiva laku karena dieselnya saja. yg bensin mau jungkir balik gimana juga tdk bakal laku.
3rd row captiva itu menurut saya dipaksakan. Seperti waktu crv generasi ke 2, kan sempet ada yg pakai 3rd row
Om turboman, kalo uda test drive fortuner vnt. Kasi review ya om. Thanks
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by claude_wallace » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:14
berarti fortuner vnt yg beredar di jalanan indonesia skrg ini masih transmisi manual ya ?
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by Bdarmawan » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:34
Semoga Indonesia kebagian 5speed a/t. Lg nunggu inden vnt.
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by vote42ner » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:11
Bdarmawan wrote: Semoga Indonesia kebagian 5speed a/t. Lg nunggu inden vnt.
sabar saja...kalo di thailand sudah 5 speed..indonesia tinggal tunggu waktu saja
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by maskopat » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:04
vote42ner wrote: Bdarmawan wrote: Semoga Indonesia kebagian 5speed a/t. Lg nunggu inden vnt.
sabar saja...kalo di thailand sudah 5 speed..indonesia tinggal tunggu waktu saja
bukan tunggu tahun depan kan?
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by vote42ner » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:58
maskopat wrote: vote42ner wrote: Bdarmawan wrote: Semoga Indonesia kebagian 5speed a/t. Lg nunggu inden vnt.
sabar saja...kalo di thailand sudah 5 speed..indonesia tinggal tunggu waktu saja
bukan tunggu tahun depan kan?
Ngak papa kok..orang sabar kan di sayang Tuhan...hehehe
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by claude_wallace » Wed Aug 22, 2012 13:07
hahahaha..
toyota gitu lho.
yaris baru jg mau dimasukin tahun depan..
ANJ sudah berjaya duluan..
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by Hansen » Wed Aug 22, 2012 16:26
vote42ner wrote:
Ngak papa kok..orang sabar kan di sayang Tuhan...hehehe
ngak sabar aku..ngak sabar..
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by claude_wallace » Wed Aug 22, 2012 17:09
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by Good_boy86 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 17:26
claude_wallace wrote: hahahaha..
toyota gitu lho.
yaris baru jg mau dimasukin tahun depan..
ANJ sudah berjaya duluan..
Yg manual mana laku kalo di jakarta, iya kalo di surabaya masih banyak yg ambil manual.
Tapi ini yg masuk skrg 4AT, nanggung banget toyota kalo datengin. (web toyota.co.id)
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by DOHC » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:26
yahhh yg di 5 speed in plg cuman yg fortuner... ga seru ahh.. mobil tinggi gembrot gt ngapain di 5 speed in...
yg ipah donk... pakein vnt intercooler, gearbox matic 5 speed... itu baru bener2 bkin galau...
numpang lewat aja....
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by vote42ner » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:29
Hansen wrote: vote42ner wrote:
Ngak papa kok..orang sabar kan di sayang Tuhan...hehehe
ngak sabar aku..ngak sabar..
Sabar..sabar..orang sabar pantatnya lebar..
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by Hansen » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:59
vote42ner wrote: Hansen wrote: vote42ner wrote:
Ngak papa kok..orang sabar kan di sayang Tuhan...hehehe
ngak sabar aku..ngak sabar..
Sabar..sabar..orang sabar pantatnya lebar..
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by mekov » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:03
DOHC wrote: yahhh yg di 5 speed in plg cuman yg fortuner... ga seru ahh.. mobil tinggi gembrot gt ngapain di 5 speed in...
yg ipah donk... pakein vnt intercooler, gearbox matic 5 speed... itu baru bener2 bkin galau...
Setuju om... Apalagi kalo ditambah harganya ngga robah dari penawaran sekarang
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by Good_boy86 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 16:00
DOHC wrote: yahhh yg di 5 speed in plg cuman yg fortuner... ga seru ahh.. mobil tinggi gembrot gt ngapain di 5 speed in...
yg ipah donk... pakein vnt intercooler, gearbox matic 5 speed... itu baru bener2 bkin galau...
ipah ga ada saingan om, jadi dikasi mesin jelek pun bakalan laku.
coba aja kalo grandis dikasi mesin 4d56 ps gitu.. dijamin ipah diesel keok.
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by Turboman » Thu Aug 23, 2012 16:11
Good_boy86 wrote:
ipah ga ada saingan om, jadi dikasi mesin jelek pun bakalan laku.
coba aja kalo grandis dikasi mesin 4d56 ps gitu.. dijamin ipah diesel keok.
Gak ada ini versi Di-D di pasar Indonesia
Juga gak ada Panther pake mesin ini
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by VanzMatic » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:23
Turboman wrote: Good_boy86 wrote:
ipah ga ada saingan om, jadi dikasi mesin jelek pun bakalan laku.
coba aja kalo grandis dikasi mesin 4d56 ps gitu.. dijamin ipah diesel keok.
Gak ada ini versi Di-D di pasar Indonesia
Juga gak ada Panther pake mesin ini
Kalo nda salah, duluu sempet heboh ya, Fuzion bakal masuk sini, ditasbihkan sebagai penerus Kuda..
eee..e..e...jebul yang masuk malah PS..abis itu OS....
Hadehh..
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by Good_boy86 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:02
Tapi sekarang mitsu sudah lebih baik, drpd sebelum PS yg banyak cuma kepala kuning sama L300. Hehe.
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by VanzMatic » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:34
Good_boy86 wrote: Tapi sekarang mitsu sudah lebih baik, drpd sebelum PS yg banyak cuma kepala kuning sama L300. Hehe.
Hehehe..tetep lebih seneng mitsu yang dulu...
Lebih baekk beli CB, CK, ST, Kuda, Pajero '92 daripada harus beralih ke PS, grandis, SE-i, atau OS..
Just a subjective opinion...
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