Grand Livina Users..! - PART 04

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Rasanya siih, selama mobilnya bertransmisi matik jenis konvensional, (penggerak gir nya pakai fluida), pasti masih ada jerking nya, sehalus apapun, even itu sebuah Innova V Matic atau Altis sekalipun. Cmiiw ya, soalna ane juga bandingin diantara 2 mobil itu jugag..
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Kalo ngga mau ada jerking, pakai yang udh matic cvt kayak nJazz. Totally smooth lah kalok itu..
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VanzMatic wrote:Rasanya siih, selama mobilnya bertransmisi matik jenis konvensional, (penggerak gir nya pakai fluida), pasti masih ada jerking nya, sehalus apapun, even itu sebuah Innova V Matic atau Altis sekalipun. Cmiiw ya, soalna ane juga bandingin diantara 2 mobil itu jugag..
:big_peace:

Kalo ngga mau ada jerking, pakai yang udh matic cvt kayak nJazz. Totally smooth lah kalok itu..
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ak4ng wrote:
VanzMatic wrote:Rasanya siih, selama mobilnya bertransmisi matik jenis konvensional, (penggerak gir nya pakai fluida), pasti masih ada jerking nya, sehalus apapun, even itu sebuah Innova V Matic atau Altis sekalipun. Cmiiw ya, soalna ane juga bandingin diantara 2 mobil itu jugag..
:big_peace:

Kalo ngga mau ada jerking, pakai yang udh matic cvt kayak nJazz. Totally smooth lah kalok itu..
master metik nongol... :big_weee:
Master irit nan kenchangng udh nongoll..

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metiknya portuner juga kl ga salah tipikalnya mirip2 sama metkinya apanja..... sekalipun yg type V 4wd..
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ː̗(^▽^)ː̖ ‎​ƗƗɑƗƗɑƗƗɑ LoL =D.. Berarti hoax x, klo apanjah nanjak dinding yg ada dinding'a hancur x.. :p
Itu mobil apaan sih smpe turun ke selokan,, ay2 wae teh..
Klo ngeliat apanjah loncat ke trotoar sering udh bbrp x ‾ƪ(‾˛‾) tuh, malah & ga cuman apanjah serena sm vios jg.. Amsiong X_x
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uchychan wrote:ː̗(^▽^)ː̖ ‎​ƗƗɑƗƗɑƗƗɑ LoL =D.. Berarti hoax x, klo apanjah nanjak dinding yg ada dinding'a hancur x.. :p
Itu mobil apaan sih smpe turun ke selokan,, ay2 wae teh..
Klo ngeliat apanjah loncat ke trotoar sering udh bbrp x ‾ƪ(‾˛‾) tuh, malah & ga cuman apanjah serena sm vios jg.. Amsiong X_x
dulu sih ada apanja yg bisa terbang.. tp potonya ane lupa di mana.. mungkin hansen inget kali ya?? kalo sama dinding beton sih jelas ancur (mobilnya)..... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Nubie yg baru2 ini pake GL ikut share sedikit ya :ungg:
Kebetulan kucing garong harus nongkrong karena lagi perpanjangan STNK, jadi gw pake GL selama seminggu.
Kesan gw yg biasanya bejek kucing diesel dengan body beratnya , wah enak bener ini naek GL :mky_01:
Gas nya enteng, buat mendahului jg enak, dipake keluar kota gak secapek naek kucing garong :mky_08:
Selama memelihara GL belum pernah ada trouble sedikitpun seperti yg diceritakan diberbagai macam forum.
IMHO kenyamanan GL masih lebih baek drpd innova D4d sekalipun. So far gw puas dgn GL..
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BADAK wrote:Nubie yg baru2 ini pake GL ikut share sedikit ya :ungg:
Kebetulan kucing garong harus nongkrong karena lagi perpanjangan STNK, jadi gw pake GL selama seminggu.
Kesan gw yg biasanya bejek kucing diesel dengan body beratnya , wah enak bener ini naek GL :mky_01:
Gas nya enteng, buat mendahului jg enak, dipake keluar kota gak secapek naek kucing garong :mky_08:
Selama memelihara GL belum pernah ada trouble sedikitpun seperti yg diceritakan diberbagai macam forum.
IMHO kenyamanan GL masih lebih baek drpd innova D4d sekalipun. So far gw puas dgn GL..
Sekian dan terima kasih........................ :ngacir: :ngacir:
haiii badak.... piye kabare??? GL nya diesel?? :big_smoking:
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Haiiii ak4ng..... Kabare apik2 wae. Luwaknya jantan? :big_smoking:
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BADAK wrote:Haiiii ak4ng..... Kabare apik2 wae. Luwaknya jantan? :big_smoking:
haiiiii..... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:
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ak4ng wrote:metiknya portuner juga kl ga salah tipikalnya mirip2 sama metkinya apanja..... sekalipun yg type V 4wd..
ngaco lagi... :mky_07:
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hehe keluarga ane pada suka manual semua .. katanya kalau mau ngebut enak.. kalo ada orang yg ngeselin dijalan bisa main kickdown aja hohoho
tapi ane suka matic asiiik bawak gl matic.. ane suka banget nyupir gl hoho...
semenjak pertamax sudah tak bersahabat lagi .. sekarang dia minum bensin :big_slap:

andai pertamax 8000 . :ungg:
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rasanya rata2 matic sekarang juga oke buat kickdown... cukup responsif kalo menurut ane sih ya...
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poeticmind wrote:rasanya rata2 matic sekarang juga oke buat kickdown... cukup responsif kalo menurut ane sih ya...
gimana goyangan sih... :mky_04:
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poeticmind wrote:rasanya rata2 matic sekarang juga oke buat kickdown... cukup responsif kalo menurut ane sih ya...

hehe agaj enak om cmii ya.. gak sespontan manual om :mky_01:
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hehehe kan ane bilang cukup responsif... kalo ane sendiri pake xtrail jadul sih, jadi kickdown start nya bisa spin sebentar, gaya... :mky_01:
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poeticmind wrote:
ak4ng wrote:metiknya portuner juga kl ga salah tipikalnya mirip2 sama metkinya apanja..... sekalipun yg type V 4wd..
ngaco lagi... :mky_07:
apanya?? kan sama2 type gate P,R,N,D,3,2,L .... sama2 4speed...... sama2 ECT..
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Avanza kl pas gas or lepas kaki dr injekan gas Bisa ajeb2.. Gw pake gl mulus.. Innova jg mulus.. Ga sejendal jendul avanza..

Bagi new driver mungkin avanza kerasa okay since ga Ada comparison driving experience Nya..
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Bossy wrote:Avanza kl pas gas or lepas kaki dr injekan gas Bisa ajeb2.. Gw pake gl mulus.. Innova jg mulus.. Ga sejendal jendul avanza..

Bagi new driver mungkin avanza kerasa okay since ga Ada comparison driving experience Nya..
Moso sih om...? Ada kok, ane juga punya comparison driving experience..

Ane juga udh nyobain matik nya Rush, Vios, Cielo, Jazz, Ipah.... :mky_03:
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Sy blm tnte2 ya msih kuliah om... ː̗(^▽^)ː̖ ‎
Susah om, mrka gaptek soalnya.
Kmren smpet diskusi lg msih nihil hsilnya, impossible..
Katanya harga jual jatohlah, kata org bwa matic ngeri klo mau keluar parkir gedung etc"..
( ̄□ ̄;) oh my god...!!
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uchychan wrote:Sy blm tnte2 ya msih kuliah om... ː̗(^▽^)ː̖ ‎
Susah om, mrka gaptek soalnya.
Kmren smpet diskusi lg msih nihil hsilnya, impossible..
Katanya harga jual jatohlah, kata org bwa matic ngeri klo mau keluar parkir gedung etc"..
( ̄□ ̄;) oh my god...!!
Wah sama donk kalo gitu sis, saya jg masih kuliah semester akhir :mky_01: ................................. :ngacir: :ngacir:
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ak4ng wrote:
poeticmind wrote:
ak4ng wrote:metiknya portuner juga kl ga salah tipikalnya mirip2 sama metkinya apanja..... sekalipun yg type V 4wd..
ngaco lagi... :mky_07:
apanya?? kan sama2 type gate P,R,N,D,3,2,L .... sama2 4speed...... sama2 ECT..
Tetep aja ak4ng yg ngawur..
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uchychan wrote:Sy blm tnte2 ya msih kuliah om... ː̗(^▽^)ː̖ ‎
Susah om, mrka gaptek soalnya.
Kmren smpet diskusi lg msih nihil hsilnya, impossible..
Katanya harga jual jatohlah, kata org bwa matic ngeri klo mau keluar parkir gedung etc"..
( ̄□ ̄;) oh my god...!!
Wah, kemarin ane baca tret ini dari my Winmo, gatell pengen reply tapi susah login..
Ya udah baru dibls skrg..

Sis, matik menawarkan kemudahan2 dan konsekuensi2 sendiri dibanding Manual..

Pros:
1. Kaki kiri istirahat total, kaki kanan doang main gas rem.
2. Dalam kondisi relatif lancar, konsumsi bensin bisa lebih ekonomis apabila kaki kita engga gatel nyalip nyalip melulu, karena ECU sudah mengatur sendiri putaran rpm saat pindah gigi, berdasar tingkat kedalaman injek pedal gas. Kalo kita injekannya santai, ECU juga memerintahkan girboks untuk pindah persneling saat rpm rendah, seperti 2000-2200rpm. Irit kan? Avanza matik saya dalam kondisi lancar, lewat tol, bisa mencetak 1:14, isi 4 orang, AC dobel nyala semua.
3. Tidak ada resiko salah kopling yang menyebabkan mobil tiba2 mati mesin saat macet. Kebayang kan ribetnya, pas lagi macet parah, bisa maju dikit itu anugerah banget, nah kalo pas orang mengharapkan bisa maju, mendadak mesin sis mati karena sis kaget dalam melepas kopling, bisa2 langsung jadi konser klakson deh.. :mrgreen:
4. Engga diperlukan ganti kampas, dekrup, dll dsb. Cukup ganti oli dan kuras oli matik.
5. Kalau pemakaian dalam arti cara mindahin lever dan kondisi ngegasnya normal2 aja, transmisi matik dirancang lifetime na sama panjangna dengan mobilnya..

Cons (Contras):
1. Trade off dari kenyamanan / kenikmatan kaki kiri makai matik saat kena macet, adalah bensin yang normally lebih boros dibanding manual. Ini lumrah. Misalnya, Avanza manual saat macet, bensinnya jeblok jadi 1:8. Kalau Avanza matik, bakal jadi 1:7. Atau misalnya Soluna manual, kalo kena macet, paling2 konsumsi bensinnya jeblok jadi 1:10,5-11. Kalo Soluna matik, bisa jeblok FC nya jadi 1:9. Begitu kira2.
2. Trade off dari ketiadaan biaya ganti kampas kopling, dekrup dll, adalah biaya KURAS oli matik, yang perlu sampai 7 liter. Kalau ganti oli biasa, hanya 3liter-an. Bisa sampai 7 liter, karena oli baru tersebut dipakai untuk "mendorong" oli lama keluar dari girboks transmisi matik. Istilahnya, menguras yang lama dengan didorong oleh oli yang baru.
3. Trade off dari ketiadaan salah kopling adalah, resiko nyundul/nabrak mobil di depanna akibat kurang dalam saat injak rem. perlu diingat, saat lever matik ada di D, mobil akan tetap menggenlinding. Satu satuna cara adalah dengan injak rem. Nah, kalo udh pakai matik, jangan suka ngelamun saat macet, jangan suka mikir urusan yang ribet2, bikin ngga fokus, nanti secara ngga sadar bakal mengendorkan injekan kaki kanan ke rem.
4. Tidak boleh melewati banjir yang terlalu tinggi, walaupun mobilnya tipe2 tinggi kayak Rushter / Avania / Innova. Matik memiliki sensitifitas lebih tinggi dibanding manual.
5. Terakhir, pemakaian yang kasar, misalnya terlalu grubak grubuk dalam memainkan tuas matik dalam frekuensi yang sering, bisa mengakibatkan solenoid2 girboks matik cepet jebol. Santai saja dalam memindahkan tuas matik. Ngga perlu kudu cepat2.

Monggo master2 yang lain menambahkan, biar ortunya baca ni SM en ngerti advantage pakai matik.
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