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Most reliable cars
Most reliable cars
Best and worst predicted reliability, according to Consumer Reports survey research.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/08/autos/c ... /index.htm
Most Reliable Small Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Honda Fit (pictured)*
- Toyota Yaris*
- Honda Civic Hybrid*
- Toyota Corolla
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Chevrolet Cobalt
- 2006 Nissan Sentra
- Volkswagen Jetta (5 cyl.)
- Chevrolet Aveo
Most Reliable Family Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
-Honda Accord Hybrid (pictured)
-Toyota Prius
-Honda Accord (4-cyl.)
-Ford Fusion*
-Mercury Milan*
Least reliable
-Volkswagen Passat (4 cyl.)*
Most Reliable Upscale/Large Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Lexus ES350 (pictured)
- Lincoln Zephyr*
- Hyundai Azera*
- Acura TSX
- Acura TL
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Jaguar X-type
- Chrysler 300 (V8)
- Saab 9-3
Most Reliable Luxury Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- 2006 Lexus LS (2007 model pictured)
- Infiniti M*
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Cadillac STS (V8)
- 2006 Mercees-Benz S-class
- Mercedes-Benz CLS*
- Mercedes-Benz E-class sedan
- BMW 7-series
- Jaguar S-type
Most Reliable Sport/Sporty car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Lexus SC
- Toyota Camry Solara (4-cyl.)
- Subaru Impreza WRX
- Honda S2000
- Mitsubishi Eclipse*
- 2006 Mini Cooper hatchback
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Pontiac Solstice*
- Mercedes-Benz SL
- Mercedes-Benz CLK
- Mercedes-Benz SLK (V6)
- Chevrolet Corvette
- Porsche 911 Carrera
- Ford Mustang (V6)
Most Reliable Wagon/Minivan
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Pontiac Vibe (pictured)
- Scion xB
- Toyota Matrix
- Toyota Sienna
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Buick Terraza
- Chevrolet Uplander
- Saturn Relay
- Nissan Quest
Most Reliable Small SUV
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota FJ Cruiser* (pictured)
- Honda Element
- 2006 Honda CR-V
- Toyota Rav4*
- 2006 Mitsubishi Outlander*
- Subaru Forester
Least reliable
- Kia Sportage
Midsized SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota Highlander Hybrid* (pictured)
- Toyota 4Runner
- Toyota Highlander
- Honda Pilot
- Lexus RX400h* (hybrid)
- 2006 Acura MDX
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Mercedes-Benz M-class*
- Land Rover LR3 (V8)
- Cadillac SRX (V8)
- Mercedes-Benz R-class*
- Volkswagen Touareg
- Jeep Grand Cherokee
- Hummer H3*
- 2006 BMW X5 (V8)
- Volvo XC90 (I6 and V8)
- Ford Explorer (V8)
- Mercury Mountaineer (V8)
Large SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota Land Cruiser
- Lexus LX
- Toyota Sequoia
- Chevrolet Tahoe*
- GMC Yukon*
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Nissan Armada
- Infiniti QX56
- Lincoln Navigator
- Hummer H2
Pickups
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Subaru Baja
- Toyota Tundra
- Toyota Tacoma
- Nissan Frontier (V6)
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Nissan Titan
- Ford F-250 (diesel)
- Dodge Dakota (4WD)
- 2006 Cadillac Escalade EXT
Best and worst predicted reliability, according to Consumer Reports survey research.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/08/autos/c ... /index.htm
Most Reliable Small Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Honda Fit (pictured)*
- Toyota Yaris*
- Honda Civic Hybrid*
- Toyota Corolla
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Chevrolet Cobalt
- 2006 Nissan Sentra
- Volkswagen Jetta (5 cyl.)
- Chevrolet Aveo
Most Reliable Family Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
-Honda Accord Hybrid (pictured)
-Toyota Prius
-Honda Accord (4-cyl.)
-Ford Fusion*
-Mercury Milan*
Least reliable
-Volkswagen Passat (4 cyl.)*
Most Reliable Upscale/Large Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Lexus ES350 (pictured)
- Lincoln Zephyr*
- Hyundai Azera*
- Acura TSX
- Acura TL
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Jaguar X-type
- Chrysler 300 (V8)
- Saab 9-3
Most Reliable Luxury Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- 2006 Lexus LS (2007 model pictured)
- Infiniti M*
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Cadillac STS (V8)
- 2006 Mercees-Benz S-class
- Mercedes-Benz CLS*
- Mercedes-Benz E-class sedan
- BMW 7-series
- Jaguar S-type
Most Reliable Sport/Sporty car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Lexus SC
- Toyota Camry Solara (4-cyl.)
- Subaru Impreza WRX
- Honda S2000
- Mitsubishi Eclipse*
- 2006 Mini Cooper hatchback
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Pontiac Solstice*
- Mercedes-Benz SL
- Mercedes-Benz CLK
- Mercedes-Benz SLK (V6)
- Chevrolet Corvette
- Porsche 911 Carrera
- Ford Mustang (V6)
Most Reliable Wagon/Minivan
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Pontiac Vibe (pictured)
- Scion xB
- Toyota Matrix
- Toyota Sienna
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Buick Terraza
- Chevrolet Uplander
- Saturn Relay
- Nissan Quest
Most Reliable Small SUV
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota FJ Cruiser* (pictured)
- Honda Element
- 2006 Honda CR-V
- Toyota Rav4*
- 2006 Mitsubishi Outlander*
- Subaru Forester
Least reliable
- Kia Sportage
Midsized SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota Highlander Hybrid* (pictured)
- Toyota 4Runner
- Toyota Highlander
- Honda Pilot
- Lexus RX400h* (hybrid)
- 2006 Acura MDX
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Mercedes-Benz M-class*
- Land Rover LR3 (V8)
- Cadillac SRX (V8)
- Mercedes-Benz R-class*
- Volkswagen Touareg
- Jeep Grand Cherokee
- Hummer H3*
- 2006 BMW X5 (V8)
- Volvo XC90 (I6 and V8)
- Ford Explorer (V8)
- Mercury Mountaineer (V8)
Large SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota Land Cruiser
- Lexus LX
- Toyota Sequoia
- Chevrolet Tahoe*
- GMC Yukon*
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Nissan Armada
- Infiniti QX56
- Lincoln Navigator
- Hummer H2
Pickups
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Subaru Baja
- Toyota Tundra
- Toyota Tacoma
- Nissan Frontier (V6)
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Nissan Titan
- Ford F-250 (diesel)
- Dodge Dakota (4WD)
- 2006 Cadillac Escalade EXT
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bukan kebanyakan Jepang, hanya ada sayu yg most reliable tapi bukan merek Jepang, Pontiac Vibe, which is sebenernya dikembangkan Toyota (di Jepang namanya Toyota Voltz)DigitALL wrote:Most reliable kebanyakan didominasi oleh mobil2 dari pabrikan Jepang nih. Emang mobil buatan Jepang lebih reliable ya.
Jadi, kesimpulannya.... semua mobil yg skornya terbaik (most reliable) dalam list di atas adalah JAPANESE BUILT!

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I agree with the Scion xB being one of the reliable wagon out there. Scion xB has good parts to like the engine, brakes, drive shafts and joints That's why it was considered reliable.biembiru wrote:Most reliable cars
Best and worst predicted reliability, according to Consumer Reports survey research.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/08/autos/c ... /index.htm
Most Reliable Wagon/Minivan
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Pontiac Vibe (pictured)
- Scion xB
- Toyota Matrix
- Toyota Sienna
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Buick Terraza
- Chevrolet Uplander
- Saturn Relay
- Nissan Quest
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Re: Most reliable cars
Reliable ? Menurut lembaga CR gituan, reliable. Yea, seperti lembaga rating dunia finance yang " bonafide " seperti S&P / Moodys dll yang kasih rating TRIPLE A kepada para perusahaan finance Amrik, seperti Lehman Brothers dll, 1 minggu sebelum mereka bangkrut masih dapat rating Triple A !!!)
So much for ratings !
http://www.toyotasteeringrecall.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_Tn-CFwy0
Belum kasus peniup peluit di Vietnam,
http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/Pages ... 24820.aspx
http://www.dztimes.net/post/social/whis ... otion.aspx
Masih banyak kasus lain....
Pokoknya habis lihat gimana ngaconya rating di dunia finance seperti Standard & Poors / Moodys gituan, saya udah ngak percaya lagi ama rating rating gituan.
Yang saya tau, belakangan yang paling banyak kasus di seluruh dunia adalah toyota.
Sebaliknya, raksasa pabrik mobil lain seperti VW, yang dapat rating rendah, selain ngak ada berita ada kasus gede gede seperti toyota, hari ini malah udah jadi pabrik mobil no.2 paling laris di seluruh dunia.
Dan GM yang juga ratingnya ngak tinggi, hari ini malah udah jadi pabrik mobil no.1 di dunia.
Apakah puluhan juta konsumen yang beli begitu banyak VW dan GM sama sekali ngak tau rating mereka begitu jelek ? Siapa lebih tau reliability :
Satu team kecil di kantor Consumer Reports yang tulis semaunya mereka, atau :
Puluhan juta konsumen VW dan GM yang terus beli dari mereka tiap tahun di seluruh dunia, karena mereka tau reliability VW dan GM bagus kok.
So much for ratings !!!
Ingat. Lehman Brothers dapat rating TRIPLE A, 1 minggu sebelum dia bangkrut dan cetuskan krisis global tahun 2008 !
So much for ratings !
http://www.toyotasteeringrecall.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_Tn-CFwy0
Belum kasus peniup peluit di Vietnam,
http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/Pages ... 24820.aspx
http://www.dztimes.net/post/social/whis ... otion.aspx
Masih banyak kasus lain....
Pokoknya habis lihat gimana ngaconya rating di dunia finance seperti Standard & Poors / Moodys gituan, saya udah ngak percaya lagi ama rating rating gituan.
Yang saya tau, belakangan yang paling banyak kasus di seluruh dunia adalah toyota.
Sebaliknya, raksasa pabrik mobil lain seperti VW, yang dapat rating rendah, selain ngak ada berita ada kasus gede gede seperti toyota, hari ini malah udah jadi pabrik mobil no.2 paling laris di seluruh dunia.
Dan GM yang juga ratingnya ngak tinggi, hari ini malah udah jadi pabrik mobil no.1 di dunia.
Apakah puluhan juta konsumen yang beli begitu banyak VW dan GM sama sekali ngak tau rating mereka begitu jelek ? Siapa lebih tau reliability :
Satu team kecil di kantor Consumer Reports yang tulis semaunya mereka, atau :
Puluhan juta konsumen VW dan GM yang terus beli dari mereka tiap tahun di seluruh dunia, karena mereka tau reliability VW dan GM bagus kok.
So much for ratings !!!
Ingat. Lehman Brothers dapat rating TRIPLE A, 1 minggu sebelum dia bangkrut dan cetuskan krisis global tahun 2008 !
LarryPage wrote:I agree with the Scion xB being one of the reliable wagon out there. Scion xB has good parts to like the engine, brakes, drive shafts and joints That's why it was considered reliable.biembiru wrote:Most reliable cars
Best and worst predicted reliability, according to Consumer Reports survey research.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/08/autos/c ... /index.htm
Most Reliable Wagon/Minivan
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Pontiac Vibe (pictured)
- Scion xB
- Toyota Matrix
- Toyota Sienna
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Buick Terraza
- Chevrolet Uplander
- Saturn Relay
- Nissan Quest
TOYOTA : The One You Ought To Avoid
Re: Most reliable cars
Hi hi hi...ada yg sewot
Fortuner dan Camry saya juga super reliable, dependable dah


Fortuner dan Camry saya juga super reliable, dependable dah

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Re: Most reliable cars
Dan sebelum hanggap rating gituan sebagai Biblenya reliability dunia mobil, baca dulu ini :
http://www.allpar.com/cr.html
http://www.allpar.com/cr.html
TOYOTA : The One You Ought To Avoid
Re: Most reliable cars
biembiru wrote:Most reliable cars
Best and worst predicted reliability, according to Consumer Reports survey research.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/08/autos/c ... /index.htm
Most Reliable Small Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Honda Fit (pictured)*
- Toyota Yaris*
- Honda Civic Hybrid*
- Toyota Corolla
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Chevrolet Cobalt
- 2006 Nissan Sentra
- Volkswagen Jetta (5 cyl.)
- Chevrolet Aveo
Most Reliable Family Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
-Honda Accord Hybrid (pictured)
-Toyota Prius
-Honda Accord (4-cyl.)
-Ford Fusion*
-Mercury Milan*
Least reliable
-Volkswagen Passat (4 cyl.)*
Most Reliable Upscale/Large Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Lexus ES350 (pictured)
- Lincoln Zephyr*
- Hyundai Azera*
- Acura TSX
- Acura TL
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Jaguar X-type
- Chrysler 300 (V8)
- Saab 9-3
Most Reliable Luxury Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- 2006 Lexus LS (2007 model pictured)
- Infiniti M*
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Cadillac STS (V8)
- 2006 Mercees-Benz S-class
- Mercedes-Benz CLS*
- Mercedes-Benz E-class sedan
- BMW 7-series
- Jaguar S-type
Most Reliable Sport/Sporty car
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Lexus SC
- Toyota Camry Solara (4-cyl.)
- Subaru Impreza WRX
- Honda S2000
- Mitsubishi Eclipse*
- 2006 Mini Cooper hatchback
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Pontiac Solstice*
- Mercedes-Benz SL
- Mercedes-Benz CLK
- Mercedes-Benz SLK (V6)
- Chevrolet Corvette
- Porsche 911 Carrera
- Ford Mustang (V6)
Most Reliable Wagon/Minivan
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Pontiac Vibe (pictured)
- Scion xB
- Toyota Matrix
- Toyota Sienna
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Buick Terraza
- Chevrolet Uplander
- Saturn Relay
- Nissan Quest
Most Reliable Small SUV
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota FJ Cruiser* (pictured)
- Honda Element
- 2006 Honda CR-V
- Toyota Rav4*
- 2006 Mitsubishi Outlander*
- Subaru Forester
Least reliable
- Kia Sportage
Midsized SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota Highlander Hybrid* (pictured)
- Toyota 4Runner
- Toyota Highlander
- Honda Pilot
- Lexus RX400h* (hybrid)
- 2006 Acura MDX
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Mercedes-Benz M-class*
- Land Rover LR3 (V8)
- Cadillac SRX (V8)
- Mercedes-Benz R-class*
- Volkswagen Touareg
- Jeep Grand Cherokee
- Hummer H3*
- 2006 BMW X5 (V8)
- Volvo XC90 (I6 and V8)
- Ford Explorer (V8)
- Mercury Mountaineer (V8)
Large SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Toyota Land Cruiser
- Lexus LX
- Toyota Sequoia
- Chevrolet Tahoe*
- GMC Yukon*
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Nissan Armada
- Infiniti QX56
- Lincoln Navigator
- Hummer H2
Pickups
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Subaru Baja
- Toyota Tundra
- Toyota Tacoma
- Nissan Frontier (V6)
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Nissan Titan
- Ford F-250 (diesel)
- Dodge Dakota (4WD)
- 2006 Cadillac Escalade EXT
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Re: Most reliable cars
Toyota LC....as expected....
Nissan sentra 2006 -> lots of engine failure in US build first gen qr25de.
Nissan sentra 2006 -> lots of engine failure in US build first gen qr25de.
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wahh saya jg setuju dgn anda bung... saya pribadi jg ga percaya ama lembaga2 bgituan... apalagi yg di indo sini... lebi gampang disuap sana sini...
makanya saya lebi percaya apa yg saya liat dan rasakan sendiri daripada liat hasil lembaga2 gtuan... sama aja sperti saya ga percaya nissan joke dan nissan march uda laku sgitu banyak sperti yg dibilang lembaga survey penjualan sini... lah wong dijalanan aja masi jarang saya liat tuh 2 mobil... paling2 itu teknik marketing NMI nyuap mereka biar seolah2 tuh joke ama march kliatan laku...
makanya saya lebi percaya apa yg saya liat dan rasakan sendiri daripada liat hasil lembaga2 gtuan... sama aja sperti saya ga percaya nissan joke dan nissan march uda laku sgitu banyak sperti yg dibilang lembaga survey penjualan sini... lah wong dijalanan aja masi jarang saya liat tuh 2 mobil... paling2 itu teknik marketing NMI nyuap mereka biar seolah2 tuh joke ama march kliatan laku...



toyotaman wrote:Reliable ? Menurut lembaga CR gituan, reliable. Yea, seperti lembaga rating dunia finance yang " bonafide " seperti S&P / Moodys dll yang kasih rating TRIPLE A kepada para perusahaan finance Amrik, seperti Lehman Brothers dll, 1 minggu sebelum mereka bangkrut masih dapat rating Triple A !!!)
So much for ratings !
http://www.toyotasteeringrecall.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_Tn-CFwy0
Belum kasus peniup peluit di Vietnam,
http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/Pages ... 24820.aspx
http://www.dztimes.net/post/social/whis ... otion.aspx
Masih banyak kasus lain....
Pokoknya habis lihat gimana ngaconya rating di dunia finance seperti Standard & Poors / Moodys gituan, saya udah ngak percaya lagi ama rating rating gituan.
Yang saya tau, belakangan yang paling banyak kasus di seluruh dunia adalah toyota.
Sebaliknya, raksasa pabrik mobil lain seperti VW, yang dapat rating rendah, selain ngak ada berita ada kasus gede gede seperti toyota, hari ini malah udah jadi pabrik mobil no.2 paling laris di seluruh dunia.
Dan GM yang juga ratingnya ngak tinggi, hari ini malah udah jadi pabrik mobil no.1 di dunia.
Apakah puluhan juta konsumen yang beli begitu banyak VW dan GM sama sekali ngak tau rating mereka begitu jelek ? Siapa lebih tau reliability :
Satu team kecil di kantor Consumer Reports yang tulis semaunya mereka, atau :
Puluhan juta konsumen VW dan GM yang terus beli dari mereka tiap tahun di seluruh dunia, karena mereka tau reliability VW dan GM bagus kok.
So much for ratings !!!
Ingat. Lehman Brothers dapat rating TRIPLE A, 1 minggu sebelum dia bangkrut dan cetuskan krisis global tahun 2008 !
LarryPage wrote:I agree with the Scion xB being one of the reliable wagon out there. Scion xB has good parts to like the engine, brakes, drive shafts and joints That's why it was considered reliable.biembiru wrote:Most reliable cars
Best and worst predicted reliability, according to Consumer Reports survey research.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/08/autos/c ... /index.htm
Most Reliable Wagon/Minivan
Most reliable (Best score first)
- Pontiac Vibe (pictured)
- Scion xB
- Toyota Matrix
- Toyota Sienna
Least reliable (Worst score first)
- Buick Terraza
- Chevrolet Uplander
- Saturn Relay
- Nissan Quest
numpang lewat aja....


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Most reliable car tanyalah sama yg punya mobil banyak seperti Sultan hassanal bolkiah atau Jay leno , kalau lembaga lembaga survey kaya gitu mana bisa dipercaya emang mereka ngerti mobil dan juga punya mobil banyak dipake lama sekali.
lagian kalau masalah reliable dilihat dari mana dulu :
di Indonesia jalanan banyak yg rusak , oli standard jaman jamannya orde baru dan juga bahan bakar kurang bersih tapi mobil jepang bisa bertahan artinya ..............
lagian kalau masalah reliable dilihat dari mana dulu :
di Indonesia jalanan banyak yg rusak , oli standard jaman jamannya orde baru dan juga bahan bakar kurang bersih tapi mobil jepang bisa bertahan artinya ..............

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Hehehehe.... Kalo soal SUV mah gak usah survei2an.... Tanya aja kepala pool bengkel perusahaan pertambangan ato perkebunan. Jawabnya pasti muncul: TLC 70 series, titik. Gak ada perdebatan.
Das Beste oder nichts.
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Yeah...chevy cobalt is one crappy car.....
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sama. malah ada lembaga yang katanya reliable bikin seolah2 suatu merk dari eropa seperti mobil yang ke bengkel melulu. tapi kok ya tetap laku sampe sekarang.DOHC wrote:wahh saya jg setuju dgn anda bung... saya pribadi jg ga percaya ama lembaga2 bgituan... apalagi yg di indo sini... lebi gampang disuap sana sini...
makanya saya lebi percaya apa yg saya liat dan rasakan sendiri daripada liat hasil lembaga2 gtuan... sama aja sperti saya ga percaya nissan joke dan nissan march uda laku sgitu banyak sperti yg dibilang lembaga survey penjualan sini... lah wong dijalanan aja masi jarang saya liat tuh 2 mobil... paling2 itu teknik marketing NMI nyuap mereka biar seolah2 tuh joke ama march kliatan laku...![]()
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kalo nissan, di medan saya malah sering liat march. juke belakangan juga sering liat, plat putih semua. mantap2 euy. warna putihnya keren. semua warna keknya keren. ups, sorri om mods, OOT.

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itu lahh lembaga2 gtuan.. susah dipercaya... gampang disuap sana sini... gayus yg tajir mampus aja bisa nyuap... apalagi NMI yg jauh lebi tajir mampus... majalah2 atau lembaga2 gtuann soal kecilll.....
kalo di jakarta mahh kalo liat di jalanan march ama joke mahh masi jarang... march mungkin masi lebi kliatan lebi sering dikit ketimbang si joke...
kalo di jakarta mahh kalo liat di jalanan march ama joke mahh masi jarang... march mungkin masi lebi kliatan lebi sering dikit ketimbang si joke...
numpang lewat aja....


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Makanya harus di cross-check dr berbagai publikasi plus keadaan lapangan dan pengalaman sendiri - kenyataannya emang Toyota/Honda maknyosss reliabilitynya, kurang lebih cocok lah sama hasil surveynya.
Kalo yg gak mau terima kenyataan...ya macem2 alesannya. Kok tetep laku? kok tetep laku? Karena gak semua orang memprioritaskan reliability
Mobil itu banyak pertimbangan, dr keindahan, reliability, keunikan, dll. Mau mewah + handling maknyoss ambil BMW, jelas unggul. Mau mewah + reliable ambil Lexus, jelas unggul.
Kalo yg gak mau terima kenyataan...ya macem2 alesannya. Kok tetep laku? kok tetep laku? Karena gak semua orang memprioritaskan reliability

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Mau mewah..nyaman..tangguh..besar..ambil fortuner..hehehe
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Antek spotted...uwkwkwkwvote42ner wrote:Mau mewah..nyaman..tangguh..besar..ambil fortuner..hehehe
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ZombiEE wrote:Yeah...chevy cobalt is one crappy car.....
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KKT plisss...awas disemprit trantib ganas...ƙα̇̇̇̊α̇̇̇̊ßúúяяя•*˚*• achAbu2 wrote:ZombiEE wrote:Yeah...chevy cobalt is one crappy car.....
crap can swim
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Hayo BTT yaaa..
Poin yang mau saya tambahkan adalah, meskipun reliabel secara garis besar sama di semua negara untuk produk yang sama, tetapi adanya perbedaan jumlah dan persentasi dari tingkatan mobil tersebut bisa berbeda-beda karena lembaga seperti auto bild mungkin hanya mengadakan survey di wilayah eropa dimana disana merk mobil tertentu kurang banyak peminatnya, begitu juga dengan di amerika, dan di asia.
Reliabel ini kalau dibaca dari panduan seperti Top Gear dan Auto Bild, semua adalah hasil survey dari pengguna mobil itu langsung, which is consumer like us. Ada konsumer yang tau cara rawat mobil, ada yang enggak, yang pasti mereka tinggal dan menggunakan mobil itu dalam jangka waktu tertentu. Disinilah kenapa hasil survey itu bisa variatif.
Sebuah merk mobil yang universal bisa dianggap terpercaya hasil survey nya untuk masalah reliabel, kalau hasil survey antar benua ini ada merek tersebut di dalam semua surveynya.
Disinilah Toyota sudah pasti reliabel, karena menguasai hampir seluruh survey reliabel sebuah merk mobil.
Saya rasa gak perlu dibahas lagi kalau Toyota itu reliabel atau enggak..
CMIIW
Poin yang mau saya tambahkan adalah, meskipun reliabel secara garis besar sama di semua negara untuk produk yang sama, tetapi adanya perbedaan jumlah dan persentasi dari tingkatan mobil tersebut bisa berbeda-beda karena lembaga seperti auto bild mungkin hanya mengadakan survey di wilayah eropa dimana disana merk mobil tertentu kurang banyak peminatnya, begitu juga dengan di amerika, dan di asia.
Reliabel ini kalau dibaca dari panduan seperti Top Gear dan Auto Bild, semua adalah hasil survey dari pengguna mobil itu langsung, which is consumer like us. Ada konsumer yang tau cara rawat mobil, ada yang enggak, yang pasti mereka tinggal dan menggunakan mobil itu dalam jangka waktu tertentu. Disinilah kenapa hasil survey itu bisa variatif.
Sebuah merk mobil yang universal bisa dianggap terpercaya hasil survey nya untuk masalah reliabel, kalau hasil survey antar benua ini ada merek tersebut di dalam semua surveynya.
Disinilah Toyota sudah pasti reliabel, karena menguasai hampir seluruh survey reliabel sebuah merk mobil.
Saya rasa gak perlu dibahas lagi kalau Toyota itu reliabel atau enggak..

CMIIW

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trus menurut itb-sbm jawabannya apa?AD74YA wrote:Saya rasa gak perlu dibahas lagi kalau Toyota itu reliabel atau enggak..![]()
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holy cow..!