Panther Users...! Part 2

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@imsus2c: Sejak pertama beli udah ganti apa saja? panther taon brp & odo brp km? Coba dicek kaki2 & baut setelan solar apakah udah diputer dr standard?
Panther 1:10 termasuk kencing. New panther hrs nya lbh irit dr panther kotak.
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BADAK wrote:@imsus2c: Sejak pertama beli udah ganti apa saja? panther taon brp & odo brp km? Coba dicek kaki2 & baut setelan solar apakah udah diputer dr standard?
Panther 1:10 termasuk kencing. New panther hrs nya lbh irit dr panther kotak.
wah...sudah banyak meneer..., beberapa yg masih ingat sih:
- flush + ganti oli mesin
- flush + kuras/ganti oli matic
- ganti filter udara/solar/oli
- spooring, ganti shock, dan servis kaki2
- ganti puli alternator
- cek dan kalibrasi mesin total semuanya (secara di kantor ada divisi mekanik/bengkel yg pengalaman diesel, karena untuk operasional kami ada beberapa mesin diesel, misalnya truk hino, 3 forklift yg mesinnya isuzu dan 2 forklift bermesin diesel toyota, ada juga panther pick up dan generator MAN), jadi kalo oprek diesel sih rasanya bengkel internal sudah lumayan paham

panthernya thn 2001 dan odo-nya dah lumayan banyak, sekitar 250K-an

btw, ini yg matic yah.. :ungg:
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jgn2 kopling maticnya udah mulai habis :ungg:
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kemungkinan itu kayaknya kecil deh meneer...

secara sudah di cek total menyeluruh sama mekanik kantor yg memang kerjaannya otak-atik diesel :ungg:
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Wah, koq aneh jg ya panther nya. 1:10 itu dah masuk kategori boros untuk panther.
Oiya, katanya kucing kantor ada 2 kan? Apakah udah dibandingkan FC keduanya?
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Apa akibatnya kalau oli power steering bocor?
Kalau berhenti setir terasa berat. Tapi kalau sudah jalan setir cukup ringan.
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Kalo smp kehabisan ya bisa rusak om motor power steeringnya. Umumnya kl dipanther rembes di seal2nya. Kalo udah parah bocornya sebaiknya cepat diganti selang/seal nya drpd knapa2 di jalan.
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BADAK wrote:Wah, koq aneh jg ya panther nya. 1:10 itu dah masuk kategori boros untuk panther.
Oiya, katanya kucing kantor ada 2 kan? Apakah udah dibandingkan FC keduanya?
menurut yg pakai, yg manual dapat 1:11-12an...
tapi yg manual sudah dimodif bodynya, dikasih full peredam model aspal tempel, dari kap mesin, atap, pintu, body samping semuanya..., perkiraan ada penambahan bobot lebih dari 100kgan
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Dengan kondisi standard, walopun ditambah full peredam harusnya bisa diatas 1:12. Tapi krn udah dicek semuanya, ya tinggal coba dipurging aja. Saya sendiri belum pernah coba purging sendiri, krn odo panther msh rendah.
Dulu pengalaman pake panther, tipe LS kapsul yg plg irit dibandingkan yg touring atau hi-grade. Sekarang pake touring rasanya jg cmn dapet 1:11 - 1:12 aja.
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BADAK wrote:Dengan kondisi standard, walopun ditambah full peredam harusnya bisa diatas 1:12. Tapi krn udah dicek semuanya, ya tinggal coba dipurging aja. Saya sendiri belum pernah coba purging sendiri, krn odo panther msh rendah.
Dulu pengalaman pake panther, tipe LS kapsul yg plg irit dibandingkan yg touring atau hi-grade. Sekarang pake touring rasanya jg cmn dapet 1:11 - 1:12 aja.
memang sih, ada rencana purging, tapi belum kesampaian :ungg:
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ilhami wrote:Apa akibatnya kalau oli power steering bocor?
Kalau berhenti setir terasa berat. Tapi kalau sudah jalan setir cukup ringan.
Akibatnya?

kayak Cudo saya, om. Bocor dikit saya biarin, maen nambah fluidanya aja. Keterusan, dan terus, dan terus, lha kok makin bocor? Beli cairan penambal kebocoran, lupa merk apa, gak menolong.

Bawa ke bengkel, uda terlambat mereka bilang, apalagi untuk rack kanan Cudo kapsul memang gak bisa diperbaikin kalo uda bocor. Saya ngotot diakalin, mereka bilang: 'Pak, masak saya nolak duit? Tapi gak ada gunanya mo diakalin bagaimanapun. Saya bener2 gak bisa untuk kasus anda ini'.

Ujung dari masalah: Ganti total unit 'Steering Rack Assy', kena 6 juta, di dealer, 'coz si bengkel power steering di atas bilang:' Mending ke dealer aja pak, toh kami juga ngambil unitnya dari mereka juga'. :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:

So, ada kebocoran fluida power steering, swer om, solusi dari saya 1: BESOK PAGI, segera bawa ke bengkel spesialis. ASAP, om.
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imsus2c wrote:
BADAK wrote:Wah, koq aneh jg ya panther nya. 1:10 itu dah masuk kategori boros untuk panther.
Oiya, katanya kucing kantor ada 2 kan? Apakah udah dibandingkan FC keduanya?
menurut yg pakai, yg manual dapat 1:11-12an...
tapi yg manual sudah dimodif bodynya, dikasih full peredam model aspal tempel, dari kap mesin, atap, pintu, body samping semuanya..., perkiraan ada penambahan bobot lebih dari 100kgan
panther matic (LS 2001) milik paman saya FC rata2 1:12....kondisi standar.
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Ikut review
Dulu pemakai Panther Ls turbo thn 2005 kondisi standart.
Pada waktu baru sepertinya dapet 1 L= 11 KM, setelah pakai 3 thn dapetnya 1 L = 10.x KM
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kalo panther ane gk tau nih perbandingannya berapa tapi sebagai gambaran aja.

sabtu subuh berangkat ke bandung isi full tank, sampe bandung n hotel cuman berkurang seperempat. malamnya naik ke lembang dan ciater dengan jalanan menanjak, minggu malam jalan ke hyper square, senen siang muter2 kota bandung sebelom isi full lagi jarum bensin di setengah.

berangkat balik ke jkt, sampe jkt ke ancol n balik ke rumah berkurang seperempat aja.

kondisi pengemudian santai RPM 2000 speed kurang lebih sekitar 80an km.

hmm.. kyknya masih cukup irit panther ane.
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m4rio ke hotel ama calon bini ya?
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Profith83 wrote:Ikut review
Dulu pemakai Panther Ls turbo thn 2005 kondisi standart.
Pada waktu baru sepertinya dapet 1 L= 11 KM, setelah pakai 3 thn dapetnya 1 L = 10.x KM
wah, kalo dibanding ini, brarti piaraan kantor normal dong?
LS matic thn 2001, odo sudah diatas 250k, dapetnya ya sekitar 1:10an
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update..
kayaknya kopling kucing ane udah minta ganti nih.
Tadi kumat lagi, pas tanjakan model S pula, udah lepas pedal kopling kok masih ketahan aja tenaganya, padahal udah gigi 1. Alhasil dengan sabar ane tungguin sampe koplingnya lepas sendiri sambil panteng gas dikit.
Karena msh mau buat nanjak sekali lagi. Apa bisa diakali dengan men-stud pedal kopling jadi lebih "cekak" (angkat duikit langsung jalan)?
Mengingat pedal udah di-stud 3x, n saat ini bengkel langganan msh tutup..
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salah obat wrote:update..
kayaknya kopling kucing ane udah minta ganti nih.
Tadi kumat lagi, pas tanjakan model S pula, udah lepas pedal kopling kok masih ketahan aja tenaganya, padahal udah gigi 1. Alhasil dengan sabar ane tungguin sampe koplingnya lepas sendiri sambil panteng gas dikit.
Karena msh mau buat nanjak sekali lagi. Apa bisa diakali dengan men-stud pedal kopling jadi lebih "cekak" (angkat duikit langsung jalan)?
Mengingat pedal udah di-stud 3x, n saat ini bengkel langganan msh tutup..
Thnx

kok kyknya kalo dari ceritanya bukan dari kondisi kampas kopling ya... soalnya ada kalimat " dengan sabar ane tungguin sampe koplingnya lepas sendiri kok kykmasalah di mekanisme pelepasan koplingnya ya biasa di sistem hydrolicnya. hmmm :e-think: :e-think:
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bisa jg di "matahari" nya mar yg uda lemah pegas nya.... dulu di kucing ane jg gt koq... kampas masi ada dikit tapi pegas "matahari" nya uda "mati"... jadi kalo abis ganti gigi kaya ketahan dulu... malah di kasus ane, pas abis ganti gigi, ane betot dulu pedal gas baru ilang rasa "tahanan" nya...

@ salah obat : kalo mau stel pedal kopling, nt tinggal kendorin aja mur di pedal koplng nya lalu ada batang kopling nya tinggal nt putar...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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iya ni habis ganti gigi di gas malah ngeden, jadi sehabis ganti/nambah gigi gak bisa langsung tancep, diurut dulu puelan2, jadi capek dee klo mo nyelip..
pegas matahari apa harus dgnti sekalian mataharinya om?
Oiya kompresor ac merk Sanden buat panther bagus gak dibanding pkek denso? Td liat kompresor ac si kucing kok bentuknya gak kayak panther paman ane. Setelah tanya ke tukang ac katanya merk Sanden.
Udah lama gak nyala ni ac, mau tak coba gunain lagi..
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salah obat wrote:iya ni habis ganti gigi di gas malah ngeden, jadi sehabis ganti/nambah gigi gak bisa langsung tancep, diurut dulu puelan2, jadi capek dee klo mo nyelip..
pegas matahari apa harus dgnti sekalian mataharinya om?
Oiya kompresor ac merk Sanden buat panther bagus gak dibanding pkek denso? Td liat kompresor ac si kucing kok bentuknya gak kayak panther paman ane. Setelah tanya ke tukang ac katanya merk Sanden.
Udah lama gak nyala ni ac, mau tak coba gunain lagi..

pegas matahari ama per matahari ya jadi 1 donk bro gk bisa diketeng itu, kalo ane sebutnya clutch cover. biasa yang diganti di panther itu kalo kopling :
1. kampas kopling
2. clutch cover
3. release bearing
4. pilot bearing

kalo kompressor ac sih menurut ane mau merek apa gk masalah, yang penting dinginnya maknyosss..
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m4rio wrote:
salah obat wrote:iya ni habis ganti gigi di gas malah ngeden, jadi sehabis ganti/nambah gigi gak bisa langsung tancep, diurut dulu puelan2, jadi capek dee klo mo nyelip..
pegas matahari apa harus dgnti sekalian mataharinya om?
Oiya kompresor ac merk Sanden buat panther bagus gak dibanding pkek denso? Td liat kompresor ac si kucing kok bentuknya gak kayak panther paman ane. Setelah tanya ke tukang ac katanya merk Sanden.
Udah lama gak nyala ni ac, mau tak coba gunain lagi..

pegas matahari ama per matahari ya jadi 1 donk bro gk bisa diketeng itu, kalo ane sebutnya clutch cover. biasa yang diganti di panther itu kalo kopling :
1. kampas kopling
2. clutch cover
3. release bearing
4. pilot bearing

kalo kompressor ac sih menurut ane mau merek apa gk masalah, yang penting dinginnya maknyosss..
kebetulan salah satu kucing musti ganti 4 barang diatas dalam waktu dekat
kira2 anggarannya sampe berapaan yah?
untuk kucing kapsul thn 2001 (tentunya yg manual)
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Untung penggantian kopling set siapkan aja dana 1,5-2jt om. Panther murah2 spare parts nya. Yg penting pastikan semua ori japan om.
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saya kemarin ganti kampas kopling, matahari, sama bearing yg nempel di matahari totalnya 1jt udah sama ongkos bongkar dan pasang lagi.
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BADAK wrote:Untung penggantian kopling set siapkan aja dana 1,5-2jt om. Panther murah2 spare parts nya. Yg penting pastikan semua ori japan om.
ho..sip deh...tar tinggal bilang pengadaan...minta barang ori

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