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BADAK wrote:Nah, saya setuju banget dgn komen om FM. Kalo alasannya krn mitsu udah trll dominan, kyk nya kurang tepat. Misalkan aja saya pemegang ATPM sekuat Astr*, mungkin saya justru akan menyerang segmen yg trll didominasi merk tertentu. Karena sebenernya mlh lbh enak berbagi kue di segment mbl niaga (diesel khususnya) drpd segmen passenger car, yg mana walopun kue nya besar tp yg makan rame2. Mending gw ikut makan disegment mbl niaga, walopun kue nya gak trll besar tp yg mkn cmm dikit. hehehehe.
Kalo hilux diesel 4x2 masuk indo dgn harga selisih dikit drpd L300, mungkin bisa jd pesaing berat. Hanya tinggal dilihat spec mesinnya, bkl sekuat L300 apa gak meminum solar busuk. Kalo semua persyaratan itu dipenuhi hilux diesel + kenyamanan di atas kompetitor, bukan tidak mungkin posisi mitsu disinggasana bkl terancam :D
Udah masuk, harga kmarin diposting om FM.
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Mesin 2KD-FTV, CRD turbo. Hadeeeeeeehhhh.... TERLALU CANGGIH buat kerjaaaaa, om Johny....
Plus, karena SWB, daya angkut masih di bawah Elsape. Suseeeeeeeh, juragan Johny.... :big_peace:

Walaupun memang output power dan torsi beda banget antara Hilux diesel dan Elsape, CC sama:
102 PS/3,600 RPM vs 74 PS/4,200 RPM
20,4 KgM/1,400-3,400 RPM vs 15 KgM/2,500 RPM
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Mungkin mikirnya - someday kan harus move on - masa mau pake diesel kuno SELAMANYA. Namanya juga nyari pangsa pasar baru, mungkin mau nyerang dr angle yg berbeda. Time will tell...
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Nightster Guy wrote:
maskopat wrote:@NG: harusnya sih service injeksi dan lain2 akan lebih terjangkau nantinya... :big_peace:
Masalahnya, ente sama ane sama2 taulah, gimana tipikal user/owner pikap. Bengkel seadanya, ganti oli mepet2, parts KWan, dan sejenisnya. Kalo mesin trobel di jalan, sopir udah tau trobelsyutingnya via pengalaman dia. Nha kalo injexi kayak Hilux or GM skarang? Melongolah dia bro hehehehe....

Ini masa transisi buat user pikap kerja, sebagaimana awal 90an kita transisi dari sedan karbu ke injexi secara umum.

setuju sama bro NG , wong sekarang di kalimantan saja masih banyak bengkel pinggiran yg DONGO kalau lihat mobil injeksi , coba loe bayangin kalau elektrikalnya yg rusak dan dia jumper jumper tuh kabel apa gak JEBOL tuh ECU mesin yg harganya bisa 15 jutaan apalagi si Nissan yg sangat terkenal mahal partnya
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FortunerMan wrote:Mungkin mikirnya - someday kan harus move on - masa mau pake diesel kuno SELAMANYA. Namanya juga nyari pangsa pasar baru, mungkin mau nyerang dr angle yg berbeda. Time will tell...
Om FM..

Hilux SC disel baru masuk skarang y?
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Nightster Guy wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Mungkin mikirnya - someday kan harus move on - masa mau pake diesel kuno SELAMANYA. Namanya juga nyari pangsa pasar baru, mungkin mau nyerang dr angle yg berbeda. Time will tell...
Om FM..

Hilux SC disel baru masuk skarang y?
*nubie sotoy ikut2 ngejawab* :wkkk:

Yup, baru aja hadir sejak hilux berganti muka baru2 ini
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Hansen wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Mungkin mikirnya - someday kan harus move on - masa mau pake diesel kuno SELAMANYA. Namanya juga nyari pangsa pasar baru, mungkin mau nyerang dr angle yg berbeda. Time will tell...
Om FM..

Hilux SC disel baru masuk skarang y?
*nubie sotoy ikut2 ngejawab* :wkkk:

Yup, baru aja hadir sejak hilux berganti muka baru2 ini
Well....

Kita tunggu aja gimana kiprah dua 'pengganggu' Elsape di segmen pikap disel ini, Hilux dan Bison. Apakah mereka bia menggeser (amat sangat sulit superduper berat sekali), ato menggoyang (pastilah bisa dikit2), ato cuman sebagai pemeran cameo aja.

Kalo Ranger SC 2WD gimana kabar y?
On the road 147,5 jeti, SOHC TDi non CRD. Lebih murah dari Hilux, gantengnya gak kalah (kalo masih mo mikir ganteng di segmen 'mobil kuli' ini wkwkwkwkwkw....)

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Hansen wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Mungkin mikirnya - someday kan harus move on - masa mau pake diesel kuno SELAMANYA. Namanya juga nyari pangsa pasar baru, mungkin mau nyerang dr angle yg berbeda. Time will tell...
Om FM..

Hilux SC disel baru masuk skarang y?
*nubie sotoy ikut2 ngejawab* :wkkk:

Yup, baru aja hadir sejak hilux berganti muka baru2 ini
Sotoy itu apaan ya Sen?
apa ada hubungannya dgn soto babat? :e-think:
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BADAK wrote:
Hansen wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:
Om FM..

Hilux SC disel baru masuk skarang y?
*nubie sotoy ikut2 ngejawab* :wkkk:

Yup, baru aja hadir sejak hilux berganti muka baru2 ini
Sotoy itu apaan ya Sen?
apa ada hubungannya dgn soto babat? :e-think:
sales officer toyota :big_smoking:
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@anak malam: wah, ranger turun juga TDi doang tanpa CRD?? mantap nih...
sepertinya fmi dan ktb tahu keadaan lapangan ya??

@fm: emang harus move on... tapi kalo bbm yang masuk belum berkualitas baik, takutnya malah nama toyota yang jadi buruk di mata pengguna... :e-think:
kalo dari pengamatan kakak pembina tenda, di irian CRD pada rontok...
hal ini harus diantisipasi oleh tam...
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Nightster Guy wrote:- CUT -

Kalo Ranger SC 2WD gimana kabar y?
On the road 147,5 jeti, SOHC TDi non CRD. Lebih murah dari Hilux, gantengnya gak kalah (kalo masih mo mikir ganteng di segmen 'mobil kuli' ini wkwkwkwkwkw....)

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Mesin yg dipake itu apakah sama dengan Everest generasi pertama om?
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Hansen wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:- CUT -

Kalo Ranger SC 2WD gimana kabar y?
On the road 147,5 jeti, SOHC TDi non CRD. Lebih murah dari Hilux, gantengnya gak kalah (kalo masih mo mikir ganteng di segmen 'mobil kuli' ini wkwkwkwkwkw....)

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Mesin yg dipake itu apakah sama dengan Everest generasi pertama om?
Sen, sekarang di SM ada fitur " - CUT - " ya?
Diklik dimana tuh sen buat nge-cut postingan sebelumnya? :ungg: :ungg:
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maskopat wrote:@anak malam: wah, ranger turun juga TDi doang tanpa CRD?? mantap nih...
sepertinya fmi dan ktb tahu keadaan lapangan ya??

- CUT -
Um....

Seingat saya, Ranger single cab 4x2 memang gak pernah dapet CRD, juga yang 4x4 single cab yang biasa jadi fleet. Malah baru di generasi ini yang dikasi turbo, gnerasi seblomnya blom dapet. Ini bicara yang single cab.
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Hansen wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:- CUT -

Kalo Ranger SC 2WD gimana kabar y?
On the road 147,5 jeti, SOHC TDi non CRD. Lebih murah dari Hilux, gantengnya gak kalah (kalo masih mo mikir ganteng di segmen 'mobil kuli' ini wkwkwkwkwkw....)

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Mesin yg dipake itu apakah sama dengan Everest generasi pertama om?
Ngeliat bore nya yang sama aja, keknya sih iya. SOHC TDI 2.5 non CRD.
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Nightster Guy wrote:OOT dikit.... Untuk generasi seblomnya, Espass 1.3 vs T120SS 1.3 vs Futura 1.3, jelas paling bandel si Futura, diikutin T120SS, buncit Espass.

Tapi, soal tarikan dan max speed, jangan brani ngelawan Espass.
Yakin tuh om..? :big_smoking: Futura di gunung brisi 10 orang, tisos ane isi 10 orang, masih bisa nyalip futura di tanjakan "puncak pass" nya Magelang..Espas, tuas persnelingnya ngga senyaman duet futura tisos yg lebih "quickshift"..Jadi malah kalh cepet operan gigi.Paling kencang pakai espas sih hanya 125 om..Kalau tol gombel semarang, tisos isi 9 orang, enak aja tuh libas tanjakan curamnya..! :big_peace:
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kalo gak salah espass yang kenceng itu yang 1.6 twincam... cmiiw...
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VanzMatic wrote:- CUT -

Yakin tuh om..? :big_smoking: Futura di gunung brisi 10 orang, tisos ane isi 10 orang, masih bisa nyalip futura di tanjakan "puncak pass" nya Magelang..Espas, tuas persnelingnya ngga senyaman duet futura tisos yg lebih "quickshift"..Jadi malah kalh cepet operan gigi.Paling kencang pakai espas sih hanya 125 om..Kalau tol gombel semarang, tisos isi 9 orang, enak aja tuh libas tanjakan curamnya..! :big_peace:
Yup yakin brooooo hehehehe....

Pengalaman langsung di ajang balap liar/resmi di Manado, om. Espass '95 1.3 minibus saya yang cuman modal Crane Cams PS91 plus CDI custom, suxes ngasepin pikap2 includ T120SS.

Liat drag Sentul jadul, om? Gak da yang pake Futura/T120SS. Ada 1 Espass minibus kenceng, nickname 'Roti Balap', hasil racikan om Syawir KE System kalo gak salah, sempat merajai Sentul di kelasnya. 'Roti Balap' dibeli temen, dibawa ke Manado.

Espass uda menang basic mesin: 16 valve, dengan mesin oversquare (bore lebih gede dari stroke) = jagoan putaran tinggi.

maskopat wrote:kalo gak salah espass yang kenceng itu yang 1.6 twincam... cmiiw...
Nope, bro....

Iya, yang kenceng 1.6, pastinya, dibanding 1.3 hehehe.. Tapi dia tetep SOHC kok, kode mesin HD-C persis Feroza dan Taruna gen I.
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Nightster Guy wrote:
VanzMatic wrote:- CUT -

Yakin tuh om..? :big_smoking: Futura di gunung brisi 10 orang, tisos ane isi 10 orang, masih bisa nyalip futura di tanjakan "puncak pass" nya Magelang..Espas, tuas persnelingnya ngga senyaman duet futura tisos yg lebih "quickshift"..Jadi malah kalh cepet operan gigi.Paling kencang pakai espas sih hanya 125 om..Kalau tol gombel semarang, tisos isi 9 orang, enak aja tuh libas tanjakan curamnya..! :big_peace:
Yup yakin brooooo hehehehe....

Pengalaman langsung di ajang balap liar/resmi di Manado, om. Espass '95 1.3 minibus saya yang cuman modal Crane Cams PS91 plus CDI custom, suxes ngasepin pikap2 includ T120SS.

Liat drag Sentul jadul, om? Gak da yang pake Futura/T120SS. Ada 1 Espass minibus kenceng, nickname 'Roti Balap', hasil racikan om Syawir KE System kalo gak salah, sempat merajai Sentul di kelasnya. 'Roti Balap' dibeli temen, dibawa ke Manado.

Espass uda menang basic mesin: 16 valve, dengan mesin oversquare (bore lebih gede dari stroke) = jagoan putaran tinggi.

maskopat wrote:kalo gak salah espass yang kenceng itu yang 1.6 twincam... cmiiw...
Nope, bro....

Iya, yang kenceng 1.6, pastinya, dibanding 1.3 hehehe.. Tapi dia tetep SOHC kok, kode mesin HD-C persis Feroza dan Taruna gen I.
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Yg jelas semua dilibas habis ama apanja :big_smoking:
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BADAK wrote:Yg jelas semua dilibas habis ama apanja :big_smoking:
Perlu ente ragukan lagi???
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BADAK wrote:Yg jelas semua dilibas habis ama apanja :big_smoking:
Ngemeng2 kemana tuh si Habanja master?
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setuju ama badak bercula satu bertelur dua hahaha


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bentar lagi pasti ada lambang mitsu pakek cctv dan mod mata 1 we are watching










:ngacir: sebelum di seruduk ps mod dan bahenol om doq
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Ada apa manggil2 sekuriti cctv? :big_smoking: :big_smoking: :big_smoking:
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ehemm... :big_smoking: :big_smoking: :big_smoking: tolong btt yahhh....

ngomong2 ntuh si luwak apanja dah dilibas ama SL si om kopat kahh ampe dah ga absen disini lagi ???.... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
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Karena Lite Ace blom kluar, kita bisa berandai2 aja, mengira2. Kembali ke topik awal2, kira2 apa y fitur lebih yang mo dikasih TAM ke Lite Ace agar bedain dia dari GM? Secara ini pikap kerja banget. Paling2 tape, tapi apa itu cukup?

Pikap kerja gak perlu velg alloy, fog lamp, wood panel, dll dsb..

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