Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Ingin membahas hal-hal umum mengenai mobil dan otomotif, silakan bahas disini...

Moderators: Ryan Steele, sh00t, r12qiSonH4ji, avantgardebronze, akbarfit

User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by maskopat »

BADAK wrote:Mau tny om, apakah dgn menjiplak kontur body seperti itu tdk bisa dianggap suatu pembajakan, walaupun dr segi interior & mesin beda ?
jiplak kontur body? maksudnya gimana om? :e-think:
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
User avatar
jalu
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 8009
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:17

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by jalu »

kalo seandainya great corolla diproduksi lagi...kira2 harga jualnya sekelas sedan toyota apa ya dijaman sekarang ?
tebakan saya sih, harganya akan diatas vios tapi masih dibawah altis.
"It took Japan 40 years to become a great automotive nation. It took South Korea 20 years. I think it will take China as little as
10 to 15 years." ~ Giorgetto Giugiaro


"HP sells cars, Torque wins races." ~ Carroll Shelby
User avatar
BADAK
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 6020
Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:45

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by BADAK »

maskopat wrote:
BADAK wrote:Mau tny om, apakah dgn menjiplak kontur body seperti itu tdk bisa dianggap suatu pembajakan, walaupun dr segi interior & mesin beda ?
jiplak kontur body? maksudnya gimana om? :e-think:
Maksudnya kyk di cina ada mbl mirip avanza tp gnt emblem atau mesin, apakah ini bukan menjiplak? Atau mmg ATPM disana yg melakukan kerja sama? :e-think:
Dream as if you'll live forever
Live as if you'll die today
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

Andaikan pun jika dijual greco saya rasa harganya mgkn di bawah vios loh kakak pembina....‎​‎​Ђεђεђε :D Ђεђεђε™
User avatar
maskopat
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 14444
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28
Location: in your heart

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by maskopat »

BADAK wrote:
maskopat wrote:
BADAK wrote:Mau tny om, apakah dgn menjiplak kontur body seperti itu tdk bisa dianggap suatu pembajakan, walaupun dr segi interior & mesin beda ?
jiplak kontur body? maksudnya gimana om? :e-think:
Maksudnya kyk di cina ada mbl mirip avanza tp gnt emblem atau mesin, apakah ini bukan menjiplak? Atau mmg ATPM disana yg melakukan kerja sama? :e-think:
wah, ane kurang tahu kalo di sana om. tapi bisa jadi pengusaha sana emang minta izin ke produsen mobil ternama kalo mereka mau menggunakan body atau part dari mobil yang sudah "kadaluarsa".
ini rasanya pernah diterapkan oleh proton dengan "menggunakan" baju lancer... cmiiw.
tapi kalo bajak membajak, hm.. ragu sih kalo dilakukan dengan skala besar. tapi entah lah. :shrug:
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
Lime Green
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

Kalo gak salah pernah di sue sama bmw ag akibat menjiplak x5 lawas....kelanjutan kasus gimana ane lupa deh....tp yg jelas pemerintah rrt melindungi manufaktur lokal mrk sih andai kasus hukum nya diproses di rrt:)cmiiw
User avatar
AD74YA
SM Specialist
SM Specialist
Posts: 9769
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2008 19:51
Location: Pasar Minggu, Jakarta
Daily Vehicle: Toyota Alphard

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by AD74YA »

Mau nambahin juga..

Kalau ane melihat dari kacamata produsen, melihat indonesia memiliki budaya konsumtif, dan memiliki daya beli tinggi dan kecenderungan bosan dengan barang lama... Kenapa nggak meng ekspansi pasar saja dengan produk2 baru... Selain sebagai statement merk inovatif, juga ladang laba...

Parts mobil lama, semakin disimpan, semakin menghabiskan tempat dan biaya.. So.. Kenapa harus disimpan.. Untuk produksi lagi biaya nya juga sudah menjulang tinggi..Toh kalau dipikirkan lebih banyak yg mampu beli mobil baru, dan yang lama banyak berputar di bursa mobil bekas dan kebutuhan mobil lama dan murah sudah bisa ditutupi oleh mobkas...

Cmiiw. Ane cuma newbie.. :big_peace:
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

Btw, kalo utk proton emg lain. Mrk ada kerjasama dgn mitsubishi dulu nya, saya kurang tau sekarang masih ada apa ngak:)...
Proton saga misalkan, cuman mengalami bbrp penggantian aksesori dan printilan kecuali yang sekarang saga II memang model nya dah ganti.
"Keenganan" proton utk ganti model saya kira lebih dikarenakan ketidak mampuan drpd filosofi "don't change the winning team".cmiiw
User avatar
BADAK
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 6020
Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:45

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by BADAK »

Kalo keengganan L300 & panther gak mau gnt model apa om jemb? :ungg:
Dream as if you'll live forever
Live as if you'll die today
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

Nah itu dah diluar nalar ane...emg nya kenapa ya oom badak?
Karena masih banyak permintaan kah?atau gimana?thanks:)
ilhami
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 2521
Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:48

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ilhami »

mahal di bahan baku dong.
Plat avanza terkenal tipis, supaya irit bahan. Kalau kijang kapsul dibuat ulang, tentu harga nya mahal karena lebih tebal.
Mesin kijang yang dari besi juga lebih mahal daripada mesin baru aluminium?

:e-think:
User avatar
doq
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 9498
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 12:09
Location: jkt-bdg-jkt-bdg definitely

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by doq »

seandai nya nih ya, atpm bersedia ngeluarin model2 lama tsb atas pertimbangan2 tertentu, rasa2 nya hampir pasti bakal ditambahin berbagai macam peranti2 tambahan layak nya kendaraan jaman sekarang................lets say ABS, EBD, Airbag, Injection System etc etc
harga nya bakal segimana ntar? :e-think:
Lets behave ourself
NO tolerance on SARA, Personal issue, Spam
WE are watching
Image

Click here to call Moderator
FortunerMan

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by FortunerMan »

@doq
Kayanya si TS maksudnya itu....gak usah ditambahin yg macem2 itu - jadi harganya murah buat konsumen Indonesia.
User avatar
doq
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 9498
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 12:09
Location: jkt-bdg-jkt-bdg definitely

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by doq »

FortunerMan wrote:@doq
Kayanya si TS maksudnya itu....gak usah ditambahin yg macem2 itu - jadi harganya murah buat konsumen Indonesia.
hehehehe..........ntar ada lagi yg bikin thread, "kenapa ga di pakein ABS/Airbag etc etc?........" :big_slap:
anyway, klo menurut pendapat ane sih, walaupun itu produk2 lama di launching lagi, harganya tetep ga bakal bisa "semurah" dulu (yg mana merupakan point utama TS) :ungg:
Lets behave ourself
NO tolerance on SARA, Personal issue, Spam
WE are watching
Image

Click here to call Moderator
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

Mnrt saya malah lebih murah mobil skg drpd mobil dulu...‎​​メίίメίίメίί‎​​メίίメίίメίί
User avatar
doq
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 9498
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 12:09
Location: jkt-bdg-jkt-bdg definitely

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by doq »

ZombiEE wrote:Mnrt saya malah lebih murah mobil skg drpd mobil dulu...‎​​メίίメίίメίί‎​​メίίメίίメίί
kamsud nya gmana oom?
mohon sang master memberika pencerahan............. :ungg:
Lets behave ourself
NO tolerance on SARA, Personal issue, Spam
WE are watching
Image

Click here to call Moderator
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

Oo..kamsud nya gini master doq...contoh ya...dl beli panther di taon 94 seharga 2kg emas, skg di taon 2011 6-7 ons dah dapet...cmiiw
User avatar
doq
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 9498
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 12:09
Location: jkt-bdg-jkt-bdg definitely

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by doq »

beuuuhh..............ngeri sekali, dicontohin dg perbandingan emas :e-clap: :e-clap:
ternyata oom bud ini salah satu penimbun emas :e-clap: :e-clap: sampai kiloan pula mainan nya :upss:
Lets behave ourself
NO tolerance on SARA, Personal issue, Spam
WE are watching
Image

Click here to call Moderator
User avatar
AD74YA
SM Specialist
SM Specialist
Posts: 9769
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2008 19:51
Location: Pasar Minggu, Jakarta
Daily Vehicle: Toyota Alphard

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by AD74YA »

Master2 berkumpul ne.. Nubie ngupi aja di genteng...
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

Bruaaakakakaka...ane kan cuman mempoint saja napa bisa punya pemikiran mbl skg lebih murah....that's all:D
User avatar
BADAK
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 6020
Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:45

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by BADAK »

Siapa itu om bud? :e-think:
Dream as if you'll live forever
Live as if you'll die today
User avatar
doq
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 9498
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 12:09
Location: jkt-bdg-jkt-bdg definitely

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by doq »

ZombiEE wrote:Bruaaakakakaka...ane kan cuman mempoint saja napa bisa punya pemikiran mbl skg lebih murah....that's all:D
dg pemikiran seperti ini, ga heran klo bang jembie garasi nya tak berdinding............. :e-clap: :e-clap:
:ngacir:
Lets behave ourself
NO tolerance on SARA, Personal issue, Spam
WE are watching
Image

Click here to call Moderator
User avatar
BADAK
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Full Member of Mechanic Engineer
Posts: 6020
Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:45

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by BADAK »

AD74YA wrote:Master2 berkumpul ne.. Nubie ngupi aja di genteng...
Ati2 kl ngupi jgn di atas genteng, ntar kesamber geledek :big_weee:
Dream as if you'll live forever
Live as if you'll die today
User avatar
ZombiEE
New Member of Mechanic Master
New Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 11521
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:20

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by ZombiEE »

doq wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Bruaaakakakaka...ane kan cuman mempoint saja napa bisa punya pemikiran mbl skg lebih murah....that's all:D
dg pemikiran seperti ini, ga heran klo bang jembie garasi nya tak berdinding............. :e-clap: :e-clap:
:ngacir:
Iye dog....kaga mgkn bangun dinding di antara mobil yang parkir d jalan....bisa kena gebuk ane sama pemilik mobil nya......‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™ ƙα̇̇̇̊α̇̇̇̊ßúúяяя•*˚*• ach...
User avatar
Hansen
Member of Mechanic Master
Member of Mechanic Master
Posts: 16497
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 14:24

Re: Knapa atpm gak jual old model produksi baru

Post by Hansen »

BADAK wrote:
AD74YA wrote:Master2 berkumpul ne.. Nubie ngupi aja di genteng...
Ati2 kl ngupi jgn di atas genteng, ntar kesamber geledek :big_weee:
ati2 cangkir kopinya jgn jatoh, ntar kena badak yg lagi ngerumput di bawah :big_weee: :big_weee:
Image