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ngomong2 soal glitik... kayanya mobil2 yg ada emblem 3 elips lebi kuat yahh didesain buat telen premium busuk... tuh dari ipah, altis ampe apanja yg bahkan buatan daihatsu aja tetep gelitikless dicekokin premium... kedua stelah si 3 elips yahh si honda.. tapi ini cuman utk yg kelas2 sperti jess atau all new city nya, kalo di civic ane denger uda agak krg ramah ama premium... kalo merek jepang laen nya, ane masi blom denger ada yg gelitikless kaya tuh 2 merek... cuman kalo yg plg ga ramah ama premium kaya nya buatan nissan... di lipina series smuanya glitik parah kalo di hajar premium... xtrail jg parah bgt pas di jaman t30... cuman kayanya di t31 uda ada improvement...
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eresiie wrote:
gmx wrote:Pajero generasi 2 thn 95-98 comporession ratio 1:8.9 minumnya Ron 88, kalo ga salah jazz i-dsi minumnya Ron 88, rasio berapa ya?
Wah kalo jazz i-dsi mah hrsnya nenggak pretamax om, kalo dipaksa dicekokin premium ya bs sempoyongan jlnnya,
Jazz i-dsi CR nya 10.4 :1 kalo nggak salah....


Terrano bisa nenggak premium busuk juga kayaknya......
iya oom, kalau terrano sepengalaman saya enggak ada masalah dalam penggunaan premium, saya sempat paai selama 5 tahun and saya selalu pakai premium. hmm.. kalau jazz i-dsi.. dulu saya 2 tahun pake premium, msh so far so good.. kurang tahu kalau kedepannya.. hehe.. :mrgreen:
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DOHC wrote:ngomong2 soal glitik... kayanya mobil2 yg ada emblem 3 elips lebi kuat yahh didesain buat telen premium busuk... tuh dari ipah, altis ampe apanja yg bahkan buatan daihatsu aja tetep gelitikless dicekokin premium... kedua stelah si 3 elips yahh si honda.. tapi ini cuman utk yg kelas2 sperti jess atau all new city nya, kalo di civic ane denger uda agak krg ramah ama premium... kalo merek jepang laen nya, ane masi blom denger ada yg gelitikless kaya tuh 2 merek... cuman kalo yg plg ga ramah ama premium kaya nya buatan nissan... di lipina series smuanya glitik parah kalo di hajar premium... xtrail jg parah bgt pas di jaman t30... cuman kayanya di t31 uda ada improvement...
daihatsu juga nampaknya tahan sama premium oom, suzuki juga.. hehehe.. :D :D
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gmx wrote:Apa catalyc converter ngaruh juga om? Pernah baca2 juga getz 1.3 bisa premium karena belum ada catalyc converter, sedangkan getz 1.4 mesti pertamax karena ada cataly converter, entah benar apa ngga, mungkin suhu2 di sini bisa kasih pencerahan..


bro,
dulu waktu ambil Jazz i-DSI di taon 2004, diberitahu salesnya kalo bisa pake premium karena unit CKD sudah dicopot catalyc converternya, sementara untuk unit awal dan City yang masih CBU Thailand harus pake pertamax karena masih ada catalyc converternya
ane juga masih bingung apa hubungannya :shrug:
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perasaan jazz ampe thun 2007 ttp da cataliticny de.soalny punya ane dl tahun 07 vtec da catalitic oom,idsi puntya tmn jg ada.ttp z ane cekokin itu mbl pk bensin,emank kadang2 bgt di kickdown da suara ngelitik bgt oom.
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Kayaknya sdh ada yg nulis di atas deh...kalo catalytic converter lbh dikrnkan kandungan timbal dlm premium
bukan penyebab mesin nggak boleh nenggak premium....CMIIW
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premium sekarang sudah bebas timbal.
kalau pake premium, pembakaran kurang sempurna, jadi catalytic converter harus nya bekerja keras.
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Nah...yang bikin nubie makin bingung kalo ditambahkan variabel knock sensor, jadi shrsnya tidak knocking toh, kan bisa deteksi jd pengapian di retard....kalo sampe knocking apa karena knock sensor nya uda agak kurang sensitip atau bensin nya over busuk ya?
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ilhami wrote:premium sekarang sudah bebas timbal.
kalau pake premium, pembakaran kurang sempurna, jadi catalytic converter harus nya bekerja keras.
Kadar sulphur pada BBM juga membuat CC harus kerja keras.

Ciri khas gasoline yg kadar sulphur agak tinggi pada mobil ber CC = gas buangnya bau spt obat keriting rambut.
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ZombiEE wrote:Nah...yang bikin nubie makin bingung kalo ditambahkan variabel knock sensor, jadi shrsnya tidak knocking toh, kan bisa deteksi jd pengapian di retard....kalo sampe knocking apa karena knock sensor nya uda agak kurang sensitip atau bensin nya over busuk ya?
nubie coba sumbang ilmu nya yahh... knocking sensor itu bukan utk menghilangkan glitik, tapi hanya meminimalisir saja... dan kerja nya yahhh maju mundurin timing pengapian... nahh maju mundur nya ini sesuai dgn kondisi mesin nya tsb... dmana biasanya kalo pas baru mau start jalan atau di kick down, biasanya timing pengapian di mundurin... tapi kalo uda cruising yahh bisa back to default atau malah di majuin dikit... sesuai kondisi mesin nya aja... nahh maju mundur nya pengapian ini kan smua diatur oleh komputer ECU.. cuman, walaupun bisa maju mundur, tapi kan stelan nya uda di set dari pabrikan... sdgkan kualitas bensin premium sini kan ababil... jadi kalo kebetulan dpt premium super busuk, yahh biar kata ud dimundurin maksimum jg tetep aja glitik...

pas di kick down jg biasanya ada glitik karena jeda waktu antara input dari knock sensor, processing data di ECU ampe terjadi nya perintah2 dari ECU tsb utk mengikuti printah kick down... makanya biasanya ada glitik pas di kick down... cmiiw
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Nah.....bier tambah binun....nubie pernah cari artikel, saat cruising kecepatan sedang, pinging underload tuh normal,kalo di bejek secara tiba2 jg normal, tp ngelitik halus .... (Mesin qr25de)
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automaestro wrote:Sy penggemar otomotif yg lagi milih2 mobil baru/2nd seharga 100-200jt. Ada keragu2 an u/ beli yg agak baru krn pertaminanya kita quality HEBAT parahnya. Sy lulusan Tehnik Mesin 87'an n menyadari sebetulnya mobil2 baru dr pabrik manapun ngga layak pake bensin kecintaan kita, premium dr Pertamina. Saran2 dr pakar2 disini kira2 mesin2 DESIGN th brapa yg masih layak minum premium kita? Honda kalo i-VTEC sih forget it, mintanya minim 91-92. VVTI jg sami mawon. Padahal itu mesin Design 2003-04 dr Honda n Toyota. Sy bingung liat kawan2 kita yg beli mobil 300-400jt an tp beli bensin sama dgn yg naik motor 10jt an. Mohon pencerahannya.

Oh ya, sekarang pake Accord Maestro 93 n istri naik Livina XR 08 (mobil NO tenaga krn premium kali ya?) Semua manual, ngga doyan matic krn hobinya main game Colin McRay DIRT2. Posisi di sby. :e-think:
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VanzMatic wrote:
Koreksi ya oom, mongtor saya walaupun Revo100cc, tapi minimal minumnya pasti BioPertamax.... :ungg:
Montor Honda Abs Revo sy kok 110cc yo? apa memang beda montor ya? dan mimiknya premium so far nggak ceguken :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Biarpun mongtor saya mungkin dianggap "kecil" nilainya bagi agan2 yang lain, yang venting ngga pernah minum premium, dongng.. Pake premium malah borosss... hanya nyampe 45km untuk seliternya. Kalo pake bioperta, bisa 50-55km seliternya... :mrgreen:
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Dan yang pasti nilai nya gak "kecil".....
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ZombiEE wrote:Dan yang pasti nilai nya gak "kecil".....
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yang pasti kenaikan tarif ojek tidak kecil kalau bbm nya pertamax.
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mongtor ane jg ga pernah minum premium dr keluar dealer sampe sekarang
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ilhami wrote:yang pasti kenaikan tarif ojek tidak kecil kalau bbm nya pertamax.
Kalo ane ojekernya, tarifnya sih ngga naik om... kecepatannya aja yang ngga lebih dari 40kpj... :upss: :upss:
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mobil lama sih yg pake premium kaya Suzuki carry ma saudaranya T120 yg paling baru jelas Habanja :wkkk:
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sekedar mengetuk hati

http://mobil.otomotifnet.com/read/2010/ ... n-88-VS-92
ternyata, bahan bakar beroktan 92 memberikan banyak efek positif, yaitu menurunkan kadar gas beracun yang terkandung di dalam gas buang.

Pada Avanza Euro II, kadarnya tidak terlalu jauh berbeda karena sudah tersaring catalytic converter. Efek lebih signifikan malah didapat pada mesin yang belum pakai sensor oksigen dan catalytic converter. Artinya, pakai bensin oktan 92 memang jauh lebih baik.
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solar_kerosen wrote:mobil lama sih yg pake premium kaya Suzuki carry ma saudaranya T120 yg paling baru jelas Habanja :wkkk:
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Sudah beres ngga bingung2 lagi. Sudah beli Civic VI 02 CBU Jepun, ngga brani beli mobil dgn mesin2 baru. CR <10. Lipina bakalan dijual secepatnya, no power cuman gaya doank!
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kalo kompresi rendah = tenaga lelet donk. Itu kompensasi di turbo atau bbm boros ya?