Grand Livina Users..! - PART 04

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aldy wrote:
poeticmind wrote:freon teorinya ga boleh habis... kalo habis artinya bocor. jadi kalo hanya nambah freon, tetep pasti ada yg ga benar... ntah itu sambungan ada yg bocor atau ada bocor halus di evap atau kondensor.
kebocoran juga bisa terjadi karena tekanan freon, disebabkan oleh bbrapa komponen yg fault (gagal produksi), dan ini wajar... dari sejuta produksi, kadang ada saja yg fault.
Bukan freon bisa berkurang ya om seiring pemakaian mobil..Kalo habis total sih enggak (kecuali ada yg bocor) berkurang sih bisa..Kayak GL ane tuh ditambah freon udang setengah tahun ini masih dingin sampe skrg..
teorinya freon itu tidak akan berkurang, bro... karena freon itu selama seal dan pemasangan bagus (pabrikan maupun bengkel AC) akan tetap disana. yg justru harus diperhatikan adalah penggantian oli nya.
tapi ya umumnya wajar nambah freon... katanya sih nguap, but... nguap kemana? kan harusnya freon itu stays there. artinya ada bocor halus kan? rite?...
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setuju sama oom poetic, waktu dulu sering bolak-balik benerin ac juga para montir ac bilang begitu, system ac yg sehat itu freon nya ga bakal berkurang sampai kapanpun............klo sampai berkurang, berarti ada kebocoran pada jalur.
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hehehehe! elo trauma sama AC ya, fer? :upss:
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hihihi iya oom, not play2 dah soal AC, ongkos benerin nya bsa buat nambah2 naek cuit2 tuh :mrgreen:
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heeeeeeee.... kopling dulu! :frm_bang_head:
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Salam Kenal semua, Perkenalkan saya member baru di sini. kebetulan baru beli Livina XV1.5 AT
saya ingin menanyakan untuk rekan - rekan, kebetulan saya ingin melakukan pengecekan mesin dan originallitas Livina saya di Bengkel Resmi (apakah masih bagus atau tidak..kalau tidak ntar mau tak komplaint ke penjualnya :)..kira - kira kena biaya brp yah kalo cek di BERES?
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Salam kenal Suhu2 sekalianan nubie pengguna GL 1.8 xv nih. ijin ninjau yah
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Salam kenal juga suhu, silahken di tinjo saja.
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Ane jg da keluhan nih. Boil GL thn 09 18xv manual
Sekarang kalo belok2 stirnya suka bunyi gluduk2, tiap belok pasti bunyi, aapalagi belokan tuRunan pasti ada bunyinya, kira2 napa yahh??
Satu lg, kl dulu bawa sampe 140 kendali msh mantap. Tp kl sekarang bawa 120 naik dikit, larinya kayak ziigzag, tp gak terlalu parah sih, cuma dikit aja. Ada yah tau gak Suhu2 disini penyebabnya??
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coba dibawa ketempat spooring dulu aja oom, utk mengatasi zig-zag saat lari gtu, nanti sekalian suruh mereka cek kondisi kaki2 dan kasi tau bunyi gluduk2 saat belok itu..........

klo ternyata komponen kaki2 sehat, yg jd suspect dr power steering system ato steering column utk bunyi tsb cmiiw
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jey19 wrote:Ane jg da keluhan nih. Boil GL thn 09 18xv manual
Sekarang kalo belok2 stirnya suka bunyi gluduk2, tiap belok pasti bunyi, aapalagi belokan tuRunan pasti ada bunyinya, kira2 napa yahh??
Satu lg, kl dulu bawa sampe 140 kendali msh mantap. Tp kl sekarang bawa 120 naik dikit, larinya kayak ziigzag, tp gak terlalu parah sih, cuma dikit aja. Ada yah tau gak Suhu2 disini penyebabnya??
Kalau stir bunyi gluduk2 itu sudah pasti steer-joint nya yg gak beres, kalau masih masa garansi klaim aja bro, GL ane udah 2x klaim ganti steer-joint yg sekarang udah ok. Lari zigzag ada kemungkinan shock-nya yg gak beres.
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waktu itu blom lama udah ke tukang spooring, keluhin masalah zigzag. ternyata masih aja kayak gitu.
nanti deh bentar lagi mau servis ke 2. 18.000km,
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coba ganti tempat spooring nya deh om... bisa jg dicoba spooring 3D... kalo bisa cari tempat spooring yg bonafid, karena secanggih2nya alat kalo operator nya oon, yah sama aja boong... lari zig zag atau maksud nya lari/ narik ke satu arah neh ??? soalnya kalo zig zag emang bisa yahh ??
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jey19 wrote:waktu itu blom lama udah ke tukang spooring, keluhin masalah zigzag. ternyata masih aja kayak gitu.
nanti deh bentar lagi mau servis ke 2. 18.000km,
kalo sudah dicek kaki2 oke dan dispooring dng baik tapi masih ada gejala zig zag......mungkin dr bushing armnya.
Gejala bushing arm yg letoy (gak oblak tp letoy) adalah arah kendaraan suka ngebuang sendiri kadang zig zag meski stir tetap kt tahan di posisi lurus, biasanya terjadi di kec diatas 100 kpj, atau saat akselerasi kuat.

apakah gejalanya sama ?
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jalu wrote:
jey19 wrote:waktu itu blom lama udah ke tukang spooring, keluhin masalah zigzag. ternyata masih aja kayak gitu.
nanti deh bentar lagi mau servis ke 2. 18.000km,
kalo sudah dicek kaki2 oke dan dispooring dng baik tapi masih ada gejala zig zag......mungkin dr bushing armnya.
Gejala bushing arm yg letoy (gak oblak tp letoy) adalah arah kendaraan suka ngebuang sendiri kadang zig zag meski stir tetap kt tahan di posisi lurus, biasanya terjadi di kec diatas 100 kpj, atau saat akselerasi kuat.

apakah gejalanya sama ?

betul Suhu jalu, gejalanya memang begitu, posisi stir tetap lurus tapi arah kendaraan ngebuang sendiri, terutama di kec diatas 100kpj. tapi apa masalah itu masih garansi ATPM yah??
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semestinya dicover oleh garansi ATPM, tapi sepengalaman saya agak susah untuk membuktikannya disaat claim, krn secara fisik keliatan bushing baik2 saja....didongkrak sambil digoyang2 pake tangan jg gak terasa oblak...kalo mau paling test jalan di rute tol untuk membuktikannya, kesulitannya kalo di jakarta pada waktu jam kerja ruas tol jg macet, jangankan lari 100 kpj...mau bergerak aja susah....hehehe....

terlanjur saya sudah kesal, dan bermodal pengalaman dr sebelumnya, akhirnya saya putuskan untuk modalin sendiri ganti bushing di bengkel per langganan. Krn sudah timbul keraguan dng kualitas bushing OEM, jadinya saya ganti pake bushing custom bahan polyurethane...lbh murah, lbh kokoh dan lbh awet :frm_tumbright:
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jalu wrote:semestinya dicover oleh garansi ATPM, tapi sepengalaman saya agak susah untuk membuktikannya disaat claim, krn secara fisik keliatan bushing baik2 saja....didongkrak sambil digoyang2 pake tangan jg gak terasa oblak...kalo mau paling test jalan di rute tol untuk membuktikannya, kesulitannya kalo di jakarta pada waktu jam kerja ruas tol jg macet, jangankan lari 100 kpj...mau bergerak aja susah....hehehe....

terlanjur saya sudah kesal, dan bermodal pengalaman dr sebelumnya, akhirnya saya putuskan untuk modalin sendiri ganti bushing di bengkel per langganan. Krn sudah timbul keraguan dng kualitas bushing OEM, jadinya saya ganti pake bushing custom bahan polyurethane...lbh murah, lbh kokoh dan lbh awet :frm_tumbright:
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Suhu2 sekalian ane tadi siang langsung bwa ke Beres komplen smua keluhan. untuk masalah stir bunyi gluduk2 sudah teratasi, tapi kok stir ane jadi rada berat dikit yah :ungg: :ungg:
trus masalah zigzag ane blum tau nih. harus nunggu di toll baru tau tuh.
menurut Beres sih ada komponen yang di ganti tapi ane gak ngarti beresnya omongin apa aja yang di ganti.
dan komponen yg di ganti masih termasuk garansi :e-dance: :e-dance:
nanti kalo dah test di Toll ane kabarin lg deh.
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Suhu2 sekalian ada yg tau gak pasaran second GL 1.8 XV manual tahun 2009??
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jey19 wrote:Suhu2 sekalian ane tadi siang langsung bwa ke Beres komplen smua keluhan. untuk masalah stir bunyi gluduk2 sudah teratasi, tapi kok stir ane jadi rada berat dikit yah :ungg: :ungg:
trus masalah zigzag ane blum tau nih. harus nunggu di toll baru tau tuh.
menurut Beres sih ada komponen yang di ganti tapi ane gak ngarti beresnya omongin apa aja yang di ganti.
dan komponen yg di ganti masih termasuk garansi :e-dance: :e-dance:
nanti kalo dah test di Toll ane kabarin lg deh.
kalo misalkan penyebab bunyi gluduk2 di stir krn ada pcv/plastic bush yg aus...biasanya sewaktu awal2 setelah diganti memang agak berat, krn masih ketat..coba aja beberapa hari kedepan...mudah2an aja bobot stir kembali normal. tapi kalo misalkan stir jd berat krn freeplay adjusternya diset lbh kencang...itu mesti diset ulang lg

mudah2an bs cepet solved problemnya :D
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Problem sudah solved semua. thanks buat SUhu2 sekalian , kemarin liburan ane sudah test di tol jagorawi, boil lari 150 kph tanpa zigzag sedikitpun, stabil seperti boil baru. untung masih garansi ATPM :big_peace: :big_peace:
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kalo bole tau... parts2 apa aja nehh yg diganti ama pihak beres bro ??
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saya ada 3 unit livina series.... kok semuanya kalo ada asap knalpot atau asap orang bakar gabah kering di jalanan.. asap nya masuk ke kabin yah...? karena yang pake ga sendiri jadi suka lupa kalo servis di beres nissan... padahal knop ac udah di set yang panah melingkar (alias udara luar seharusnya ga masuk). ada yang punya problem sama? soalnya ke 3 livina series ane semuanya sama..
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@Dhanz....punya gw enggak bro...