Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 04

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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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Motul 300V bang imsus....mahal sekale itu......
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ZombiEE wrote:Motul 300V bang imsus....mahal sekale itu......
nah iya, itu dia :D

ya mod hansen bilang kalo shell ultra/castrol edge ga worth it harga segitu base oil cuman dapet itu....siapa tau pake Motul 300V dirasa worth it :D
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imsus2c wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Motul 300V bang imsus....mahal sekale itu......
nah iya, itu dia :D

ya mod hansen bilang kalo shell ultra/castrol edge ga worth it harga segitu base oil cuman dapet itu....siapa tau pake Motul 300V dirasa worth it :D
saya expectnya sih ga sampe yg Ester based sih meneer... at least grup IV PAO based aja deh :D

oiya btw msds castrol edge yg meneer post itu masih yg 10W40 ya...dan keliatannya dari namanya ini bukan Castrol Edge yg seperti umumnya ditulis fully synthetic, tetapi syntec power technology :e-think:
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Redline aja sen...;):Dhέhέhέ;);)hέhέhέ:D;)™
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ZombiEE wrote:Redline aja sen...;):Dhέhέhέ;);)hέhέhέ:D;)™
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Hansen wrote:
imsus2c wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Motul 300V bang imsus....mahal sekale itu......
nah iya, itu dia :D

ya mod hansen bilang kalo shell ultra/castrol edge ga worth it harga segitu base oil cuman dapet itu....siapa tau pake Motul 300V dirasa worth it :D
saya expectnya sih ga sampe yg Ester based sih meneer... at least grup IV PAO based aja deh :D

oiya btw msds castrol edge yg meneer post itu masih yg 10W40 ya...dan keliatannya dari namanya ini bukan Castrol Edge yg seperti umumnya ditulis fully synthetic, tetapi syntec power technology :e-think:

oya...salah paste :e-doh:

Ini catrol edge yg sudah ga pakai "syntec power technology", cuman sae yg di msds ini yg 5w30, masih dari USA juga sih :e-whistle:
http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_in ... 0_MSDS.pdf
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Andai disini ada castrol botol hitam....harga ekonomis pula....asik:)
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ZombiEE wrote:Andai disini ada castrol botol hitam....harga ekonomis pula....asik:)
apaan tuh botol hitam? :e-think:
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German castrol bang....castrol made in germany....kata forum luar sih bagus...value for money pula...:)....
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imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote:
imsus2c wrote: nah iya, itu dia :D

ya mod hansen bilang kalo shell ultra/castrol edge ga worth it harga segitu base oil cuman dapet itu....siapa tau pake Motul 300V dirasa worth it :D
saya expectnya sih ga sampe yg Ester based sih meneer... at least grup IV PAO based aja deh :D

oiya btw msds castrol edge yg meneer post itu masih yg 10W40 ya...dan keliatannya dari namanya ini bukan Castrol Edge yg seperti umumnya ditulis fully synthetic, tetapi syntec power technology :e-think:

oya...salah paste :e-doh:

Ini catrol edge yg sudah ga pakai "syntec power technology", cuman sae yg di msds ini yg 5w30, masih dari USA juga sih :e-whistle:
http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_in ... 0_MSDS.pdf
nampaknya line up atas Castrol masih bermain di hydrocracking base oil ya meneer... :upss:
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ZombiEE wrote:German castrol bang....castrol made in germany....kata forum luar sih bagus...value for money pula...:)....
baru tau kalo nick-nya botol hitam :upss:
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Hansen wrote:
nampaknya line up atas Castrol masih bermain di hydrocracking base oil ya meneer... :upss:
yaa...mungkin sih karena pertimbangan bisnis aja kali ya? :e-think:

main di base oil mineral tapi yg didagangkan "sintetis" atau "full sintetis", margin nya mungkin besar, jadi konsens nya kesitu :e-think:
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imsus2c wrote:
Hansen wrote:
nampaknya line up atas Castrol masih bermain di hydrocracking base oil ya meneer... :upss:
yaa...mungkin sih karena pertimbangan bisnis aja kali ya? :e-think:

main di base oil mineral tapi yg didagangkan "sintetis" atau "full sintetis", margin nya mungkin besar, jadi konsens nya kesitu :e-think:
Nah....makanya ada lawsuit castrol vs. Mobil karena kata synthetic tsb.....cmiiw:)
Itu "botol hitam" ane sebut sendiri bang.....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™
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Motul, Shell atau Castrol?

Gw pake Amsoil :mrgreen:
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Btw, apakah skg amsoil sudah API certified di semua line up nya bang vett?
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ZombiEE wrote:Btw, apakah skg amsoil sudah API certified di semua line up nya bang vett?
Harusnya sudah. Kalo gak ada API sertifikasinya entar susah dijualnya.

Check sendiri ya ? :) http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-motor-oil-engine-oil
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Signature line kayanya blm API certified yah bang....biasa lah boutique oil, perhaps malah lbh jauh dr API requirement paling canggih....cmiiw
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POS VETT wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Btw, apakah skg amsoil sudah API certified di semua line up nya bang vett?
Harusnya sudah. Kalo gak ada API sertifikasinya entar susah dijualnya.

Check sendiri ya ? :) http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-motor-oil-engine-oil
ngiler liat harganya om :e-clap: , di sini berapa kali lipat ya... :big_slap:
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Lu sio pun mien sio aaa momod hangsen....‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™
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ZombiEE wrote:Signature line kayanya blm API certified yah bang....biasa lah boutique oil, perhaps malah lbh jauh dr API requirement paling canggih....cmiiw
Ada tuh, API SN - SM.

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Hansen wrote:
POS VETT wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Btw, apakah skg amsoil sudah API certified di semua line up nya bang vett?
Harusnya sudah. Kalo gak ada API sertifikasinya entar susah dijualnya.

Check sendiri ya ? :) http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-motor-oil-engine-oil
ngiler liat harganya om :e-clap: , di sini berapa kali lipat ya... :big_slap:
Emang harga segitu murah ? Mahal kalo buat gw; makanya gw ambil "preferred customer" ($10/6bln) supaya dapet 20-30% diskon. Setelah diskon pun masih terasa mahal :mrgreen:
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Re: oli mesin Motul, Shell atau Castrol??

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Murah bang pos kalo dibandingkan dgn harga oli tanah air...
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Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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Dear Para Suhu.

Mohon dibantu. Ane lagi mencari oli dengan TBN , Detergent dan antiwear tinggi.
Mengingat mobil ane udah jadul dan membutuhkan oli dengan kadar Antiwear tinggi ( ZDDP , Dll ) yang tidak ditemui pada oli2 dengan kualitas SM keatas yang notabene lebih mengutamanan ramah lingkungan tapi mengesampingkan sisi proteksi untuk mobil jadul.

Hal ini sebenarnya sangat crusial , tetapi dilupakan. Tidak pernah di tuliskan pada kemasan oli , sehingga para pengguna hanya bisa meraba2 tanpa mengetahui kandungan yang ada pada oli tersebut.

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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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cari yang :

- API SL or older
- Oli Diesel API CI-4 or older
- Oli yang comply LongLife std dr Automaker spt MB 229.x / BMW LL-98 sampai 01 (utk kategori non Low SAPS)

Utk mobil bensin gak perlu TBN tinggi2, antiwear yg cukup saja / memenuhi standard utk rocker ram bukan roller rocker yaitu minimal ZDDP adalah 1100 ppm utk ZDDP alone atau ZDDP 950 ppm tetapi dikombinasikan dengan zat senyawa Boron atau Molybdenum dalam jumlah mencukupi spt pada M1 0W-40

ZDDP / Boron / Molybdenum = zat zat antiwear

Tetapi Mo dan Boron digunakan sedikit saja utk mendukung kinerja ZDDP, tetap ZDDP adalah yg utama.

ZDDP utk mesin2 normal maksimum di 1350 ppm, ZDDP yg ketinggian juga bisa bikin kerak di busi dan ruang bakar.
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Re: Oli TBN, Detergent , dan Antiwear Tinggi

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Ooo begitu ya om.
Ane pernah membaca artikel om turbo di website : ada test lab beberapa oli untuk mengetahui kandungan di dalamnya. Kalau nggak salah di lab caterpillar. Cuma ane nggak bisa ngelihat hasilnya , soalnya gambarnya kekecilan om.