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Selow all....we are all frens......no personal attack.....of course dead cat is not personal attack:)
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usul aja

Gimana kita di SM bikin gathering rame2 en toyotaman ikut gathering

Ajang supaya saling kenal aja kok......bukan mau adu argumentasi

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Turboman wrote:usul aja

Gimana kita di SM bikin gathering rame2 en toyotaman ikut gathering

Ajang supaya saling kenal aja kok......bukan mau adu argumentasi

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ZombiEE wrote:Selow all....we are all frens......no personal attack.....of course dead cat is not personal attack:)
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VanzMatic wrote:
ZombiEE wrote:Selow all....we are all frens......no personal attack.....of course dead cat is not personal attack:)
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Di Blok M ada Pyongyang restaurant...ada yg pernah nyoba gak? Penasaran ane pengen nyobain...hihihi...tapi yg dateng kesitu mobilnya heboh2 semua, males juga kan nyoba2 taunya bangkrit :P
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Repiu nya dulu oom fortie.....hehehehe
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Nih ada http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/food/nor ... enu/373481
That got the attention of the waitresses who were flocked beside the stairway. At this point we noticed another one of the many aspects that make Pyongyang unique. The waitresses were all gorgeous women in their early 20s, their skin marble white and their lips curled into a smile most of the time. They all sported similar hairdos red and white uniforms. It didn’t take us long to register that these women were definitely not locals.

“You speak English?” I asked. “No,” they quickly replied, their hands up in front of them in a gesture of surrender.

The waitresses, along with the cooks, came down here all the way from Pyongyang a year ago, around the time this restaurant was first opened. They had been students in a hospitality academy in their country, one of them told us.
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FortunerMan wrote:Nih ada http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/food/nor ... enu/373481
That got the attention of the waitresses who were flocked beside the stairway. At this point we noticed another one of the many aspects that make Pyongyang unique. The waitresses were all gorgeous women in their early 20s, their skin marble white and their lips curled into a smile most of the time. They all sported similar hairdos red and white uniforms. It didn’t take us long to register that these women were definitely not locals.

“You speak English?” I asked. “No,” they quickly replied, their hands up in front of them in a gesture of surrender.

The waitresses, along with the cooks, came down here all the way from Pyongyang a year ago, around the time this restaurant was first opened. They had been students in a hospitality academy in their country, one of them told us.
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Pyongyang is a chain of restaurants in Asia operated by the North Korean government, for whose capital (Pyongyang) the restaurants are named. Pyongyang restaurants are found mainly in China near the North Korean border, but in the 2000s the chain has been expanding into South East Asian cities including Jakarta, Vientiane (Laos), Siem Reap and Phnom Penh (Cambodia) as well as Bangkok and Pattaya (Thailand).[1]
Service

The restaurants serve North Korean food, including kimchi dishes, Pyongyang "cold noodle", barbecued cuttlefish and dog meat soup.[1] Patrons may also buy North Korean products such as ginseng wine and an unlabeled aphrodisiac claimed to be made from bears.[1] The prices are relatively high and in US dollars.[1]

The staff are attractive, young North Korean women in traditional Chosŏn-ot dress, who also perform karaoke as well as song and dance routines in the style of the North Korean Mass Games for the customers.[1][2] Government propaganda, pervasive in North Korea itself, is not overtly present in the restaurants, though photography is forbidden.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_ ... t_chain%29

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Wah otentik banget tuh...yg punya North Korean government!
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Turboman wrote:Pyongyang is a chain of restaurants in Asia operated by the North Korean government, for whose capital (Pyongyang) the restaurants are named. Pyongyang restaurants are found mainly in China near the North Korean border, but in the 2000s the chain has been expanding into South East Asian cities including Jakarta, Vientiane (Laos), Siem Reap and Phnom Penh (Cambodia) as well as Bangkok and Pattaya (Thailand).[1]
Service

The restaurants serve North Korean food, including kimchi dishes, Pyongyang "cold noodle", barbecued cuttlefish and dog meat soup.[1] Patrons may also buy North Korean products such as ginseng wine and an unlabeled aphrodisiac claimed to be made from bears.[1] The prices are relatively high and in US dollars.[1]

The staff are attractive, young North Korean women in traditional Chosŏn-ot dress, who also perform karaoke as well as song and dance routines in the style of the North Korean Mass Games for the customers.[1][2] Government propaganda, pervasive in North Korea itself, is not overtly present in the restaurants, though photography is forbidden.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_ ... t_chain%29

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Bukannya udah di bilangin, tenang aja, para pekerja dan buruh toyota kalau di recruit ama ATPM lain bisa jadi justru nasipnya lebih enak.


Ingat, toyota itu super pelit dan kejam ! Ingat ngak kasus di Jepang di mana executive toyota yang di paksa kerja mati matian tanpa overtime pay. Itu masih ngak apa, tapi cilakanya, saat dia mati, istrinya yang di tinggalin, saat dia minta toyota untuk tolong bantu biaya kecil seperti biaya transportasi, toyota aja BERTEMPUR untuk menolaknya !


ATPM lain mana ada yang seperti itu ?


Jadi justru enak kalau buruh toyota pindah ke pabrik lain semua ! Ngak bakal di gituin deh. Lu lupa, toyota itu salah satu employer paling kejam di dunia otomotif. Supaya lo refresh memory lo, silahkan lihat berapa video dan berita ini :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzLdDS9HYLE


http://www.nlcnet.org/reports?id=0503


http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/379 ... ota_prius/






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toyotaman wrote:Ini kata yang paling BODOH yang saya pernah dengarkan ! Pusing amat ama berapa orang yang di kerjakan tam atau berapa pajak yang mereka stor ke negara. Kenapa ?


Tinggal pikir aja, andai kata suatu hari toyota tidak lagi ada di Indonesia. Apakah tu puluhan ribu orang pekerjanya akan jadi nganggur ? Apakah storan pajak besar akan hilang semua ? Tentu tidak ! Apa yang akan terjadi ?


1. Penjualan toyota akan pindah ke Nissan, Honda, GM, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki etc.. Emang cuman toyota doang yang jualan mobil murah ?


2. Storan pajak akan tetap tinggi ! Cuman bedanya sekarang yang bayar adalah ATPM lain !


3. Kalau toyota tidak ada, ATPM lain akan expansi pabrik untuk hadapi permintaan yang naik, dan saat itu mereka pasti lebih suka recruit mantan pekerja tam dari pada harus training orang baru. Jadi para pekerja toyota bisa join ATPM lain !


4. Supplier yang dulu dapat banyak order dari toyota, akan dapat pula banyak order baru dari ATPM lain !



Jadi kalau toyota ngak ada lagi di Indonesia, tidak ada pihak di Indonesia yang di rugikan kok ! Pusing amat ! Cuman petinggi tam aja yang jadi nganggur. Tapi toh untuk mereka bukan masalah, karena mereka sudah menikmati gaji tinggi puluhan tahun. Tinggal tidur aja di rumah terus. Udah kaya ini ?


Jadi sebenernya kalau toyota ngak ada di Indonesia, sama sekali tidak masalah. Para pabrik mobil lain tinggal takeover !


Malah saat itu, rakyat Indonesia mau ngak mau tinggalkan mobil macam avanza yang hasil uji tabrakannya tidak bagus, dan mau ngak mau beli lebih banyak mobil murah lain yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus, JDM standard gitu, seperti Nissan March / Grand Livina, Honda Brio (kalau nanti masuk), Honda Jazz, Ford Fiesta, Hyundai i-20, H1, Mazda 2, Suzuki Swift.


Jadi effectnya akan seperti kalau rokok satu hari di BAN. Masyarakat mau ngak mau terpaksa harus beli barang lain yang lebih " aman " untuk kesehatan !


BAGUS untuk Indonesia ! Bayangkan saat hari itu, mudah mudahan nanti nyaris semua rakyat Indonesia beli dan pakai mobil terjangkau yang hasil uji tabrakannya bagus !

Ini adalah ucapan PALING TOLOL dari pasien Rumah Sakit Jiwa yang lolos bisa akses internet bernama TOYOTAMAN yang udah kepepet ngga bisa ngomong apa2 lagi!

Puluhan ribu karyawannya mau dikasi makan apa, TOLOL???? Dikasi makan besi rongsok mobil eloe yang jeblok, TOYOTAMAN?????? DIKASI MAKAN WEB SAMPAH ELOE???? Mobil eloe ngga laku di Indonesia, ELOE malah nyampah2!!! Orang kayak Eloe ini yang paling cocok dipanggil INDON, TAU!!!

Ente emang ngga pusing2 amat, karena ENTE emang ENGGA KERJA!!!!! Itu kesimpulan gue!!! Ente ngga ngrasain pecah kepala nyari kerjaan walopun hanya untuk sesuap nasi sebulan dengan jadi buruh pabrik!!! ENte hanya pengangguran!!! Yes, TOTALLY JOBLESS yang dibayarin buat blow Toyota Fault buat ngorek2 web SAMPAH!

ITU karena ENTE PENGECUTTTT, TOYOTAMAN!!! DAN dengan enteng bilang PUSING AMAT ama yang akan MENGANGGURR???????

TOYOTAMAN, ENTE EMANG SAMPAHHHH...!!! SAMPAH MASYARAKAT!!!! SAMA BUSUKNYA DENGAN WEB-WEB SAMPAHH ANDA !!!!

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ZombiEE wrote:
Turboman wrote:Pyongyang is a chain of restaurants in Asia operated by the North Korean government, for whose capital (Pyongyang) the restaurants are named. Pyongyang restaurants are found mainly in China near the North Korean border, but in the 2000s the chain has been expanding into South East Asian cities including Jakarta, Vientiane (Laos), Siem Reap and Phnom Penh (Cambodia) as well as Bangkok and Pattaya (Thailand).[1]
Service

The restaurants serve North Korean food, including kimchi dishes, Pyongyang "cold noodle", barbecued cuttlefish and dog meat soup.[1] Patrons may also buy North Korean products such as ginseng wine and an unlabeled aphrodisiac claimed to be made from bears.[1] The prices are relatively high and in US dollars.[1]

The staff are attractive, young North Korean women in traditional Chosŏn-ot dress, who also perform karaoke as well as song and dance routines in the style of the North Korean Mass Games for the customers.[1][2] Government propaganda, pervasive in North Korea itself, is not overtly present in the restaurants, though photography is forbidden.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_ ... t_chain%29

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VanzMatic wrote:TOYOTAMAN, ENTE EMANG SAMPAHHHH...!!! SAMPAH MASYARAKAT!!!!
kasian amat toyotaman :mrgreen:
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Kelihatannya banyak fanatik toyota di SM juga suka ama hal hal yang bau Korea Utara yah ? Ngak heran sih, dua duanya kejam ! toyota kejam ama karyawan dan nasabahnya sendiri. Kalau pemerintah Korea Utara kejam ama Rakyatnya sendiri. Saya jadi bingung siapa yang lebih kejam. toyota atau Korea Utara. Silahkan baca berita tentang penderitaan rakyat Korea Utara :

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 80,00.html

http://www.atimes.com/koreas/CE23Dg02.html

Dan sebelum lanjutkan panggil Kim Jong Il " Dear Leader " atau Great Leader, silahkan nonton video ini dulu :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O40dtpUtfXA





Turboman wrote:Pyongyang is a chain of restaurants in Asia operated by the North Korean government, for whose capital (Pyongyang) the restaurants are named. Pyongyang restaurants are found mainly in China near the North Korean border, but in the 2000s the chain has been expanding into South East Asian cities including Jakarta, Vientiane (Laos), Siem Reap and Phnom Penh (Cambodia) as well as Bangkok and Pattaya (Thailand).[1]
Service

The restaurants serve North Korean food, including kimchi dishes, Pyongyang "cold noodle", barbecued cuttlefish and dog meat soup.[1] Patrons may also buy North Korean products such as ginseng wine and an unlabeled aphrodisiac claimed to be made from bears.[1] The prices are relatively high and in US dollars.[1]

The staff are attractive, young North Korean women in traditional Chosŏn-ot dress, who also perform karaoke as well as song and dance routines in the style of the North Korean Mass Games for the customers.[1][2] Government propaganda, pervasive in North Korea itself, is not overtly present in the restaurants, though photography is forbidden.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_ ... t_chain%29

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Biasalah, para petinggi Korea Utara hidup mewah dan terus expansi bisnis, saat rakyatnya menderita :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O40dtpUtfXA


Turboman wrote:Pyongyang is a chain of restaurants in Asia operated by the North Korean government, for whose capital (Pyongyang) the restaurants are named. Pyongyang restaurants are found mainly in China near the North Korean border, but in the 2000s the chain has been expanding into South East Asian cities including Jakarta, Vientiane (Laos), Siem Reap and Phnom Penh (Cambodia) as well as Bangkok and Pattaya (Thailand).[1]
Service

The restaurants serve North Korean food, including kimchi dishes, Pyongyang "cold noodle", barbecued cuttlefish and dog meat soup.[1] Patrons may also buy North Korean products such as ginseng wine and an unlabeled aphrodisiac claimed to be made from bears.[1] The prices are relatively high and in US dollars.[1]

The staff are attractive, young North Korean women in traditional Chosŏn-ot dress, who also perform karaoke as well as song and dance routines in the style of the North Korean Mass Games for the customers.[1][2] Government propaganda, pervasive in North Korea itself, is not overtly present in the restaurants, though photography is forbidden.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_ ... t_chain%29

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toyotaman wrote:Bukannya udah di bilangin, tenang aja, para pekerja dan buruh toyota kalau di recruit ama ATPM lain bisa jadi justru nasipnya lebih enak.

Ingat, toyota itu super pelit dan kejam ! Ingat ngak kasus di Jepang di mana executive toyota yang di paksa kerja mati matian tanpa overtime pay. Itu masih ngak apa, tapi cilakanya, saat dia mati, istrinya yang di tinggalin, saat dia minta toyota untuk tolong bantu biaya kecil seperti biaya transportasi, toyota aja BERTEMPUR untuk menolaknya !

ATPM lain mana ada yang seperti itu ?

Jadi justru enak kalau buruh toyota pindah ke pabrik lain semua ! Ngak bakal di gituin deh. Lu lupa, toyota itu salah satu employer paling kejam di dunia otomotif. Supaya lo refresh memory lo, silahkan lihat berapa video dan berita ini :
Si om emang udah pernah lihat ke pabrik Toyota belom ?

Saya pernah ke TMMIN (Toyota Motor Manufacturing Indonesia) di Kerawang, waktu saat lunch sempat ngrobrol2 ama orang dari TMMIN, ternyata ada yg kerja di Toyota Astra selama lebih dari 10 tahun lho (sejak pabrik Kerawang belum berdiri)

Dan kadang2 TMMIN itu juga beroperasi dari Senin sampai Jumat saja (bila penjualan mobil Nasional lagi kurang bagus)

Rasanya di TAM itu juga yang menduduki posisi2 penting adalah orang2 yg udah lama kerja di TAM.

Bahkan Astra International termasuk salah 1 persh dengan sistem pengelolaan SDM terbaik di Indonesia bukan ?

Oweh bisa komen krn pernah lihat ADM Stamping Plant, bicara ama orang Astra yg bagian melayani magang (waktu kuliah dulu), pernah ke TMMIN, dan 1 uncle oweh ada yg kerja lama sekali di United Tractors (sampai beliau pensiun)

IMO:
Kalo company yg manajemen SDM-nya busuk....pasti gak ada yg tahan kerja lama-lama om.......

Kalo si om maen saham pasti tahu kan kinerja ASII ?

Lalu lihat eksekutif2 "lulusan" ASII waktu zaman om Williem / TP Rachmat dulu, yg skg jadi eksekutif2 di Adaro Corp.

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@gandi: ente mau gletong ya?‎​​メίίメίίメίί‎​​メίίメίίメίί
@TM: selow oom...nah...gpp klo gitu....ga personal attack.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfbIOev9rS4


ZombiEE wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Nih ada http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/food/nor ... enu/373481
That got the attention of the waitresses who were flocked beside the stairway. At this point we noticed another one of the many aspects that make Pyongyang unique. The waitresses were all gorgeous women in their early 20s, their skin marble white and their lips curled into a smile most of the time. They all sported similar hairdos red and white uniforms. It didn’t take us long to register that these women were definitely not locals.

“You speak English?” I asked. “No,” they quickly replied, their hands up in front of them in a gesture of surrender.

The waitresses, along with the cooks, came down here all the way from Pyongyang a year ago, around the time this restaurant was first opened. They had been students in a hospitality academy in their country, one of them told us.
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Turboman wrote:Si om emang udah pernah lihat ke pabrik Toyota belom ?

Saya pernah ke TMMIN (Toyota Motor Manufacturing Indonesia) di Kerawang, waktu saat lunch sempat ngrobrol2 ama orang dari TMMIN, ternyata ada yg kerja di Toyota Astra selama lebih dari 10 tahun lho (sejak pabrik Kerawang belum berdiri)

Dan kadang2 TMMIN itu juga beroperasi dari Senin sampai Jumat saja (bila penjualan mobil Nasional lagi kurang bagus)

Rasanya di TAM itu juga yang menduduki posisi2 penting adalah orang2 yg udah lama kerja di TAM.

Bahkan Astra International termasuk salah 1 persh dengan sistem pengelolaan SDM terbaik di Indonesia bukan ?

Oweh bisa komen krn pernah lihat ADM Stamping Plant, bicara ama orang Astra yg bagian melayani magang (waktu kuliah dulu), pernah ke TMMIN, dan 1 uncle oweh ada yg kerja lama sekali di United Tractors (sampai beliau pensiun)

IMO:
Kalo company yg manajemen SDM-nya busuk....pasti gak ada yg tahan kerja lama-lama om.......

Kalo si om maen saham pasti tahu kan kinerja ASII ?

Lalu lihat eksekutif2 "lulusan" ASII waktu zaman om Williem / TP Rachmat dulu, yg skg jadi eksekutif2 di Adaro Corp.

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http://thearticlewriter.com/autowriter/ ... bor-abuse/


The Toyota You Don’t Know

Toyota may now be the largest automotive manufacturer in the world, but that position is bringing with it a certain kind of attention it probably would rather not have. The National Labor Committee (NLC) whose mission is to “…help defend the human rights of workers in the global economy” recently released a 65-page report, “The Toyota You Don’t Know” which documents egregious human rights violations by the Toyota Motor Company.


According to Charles Kernaghan, director of the NLC, “celebrities like Julia Roberts, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pit, Bill Maher and others have led the way in turning Toyota’s Prius into a symbol of concern for our environment. We hope that these same celebrities will now also challenge Toyota to improve its respect for human and worker rights. As a start, Toyota should cut its ties to the Burmese dictators and end the exploitation of foreign guest workers trafficked to Japan.”


Among the findings of the NLC study were:


Toyota linked to human trafficking and sweatshop abuse: Toyota’s much admired “Just in Time” auto parts supply chain is riddled with sweatshop abuse, including the trafficking of foreign guest workers, mostly from China and Vietnam to Japan, who are stripped of their passports and often forced to work–including at subcontract plants supplying Toyota–16 hours a day, seven days a week, while being paid less than half the legal minimum wage. Guest workers who complain about abusive conditions are deported.


Kayak TKI aja tuh nasip buruh toyota ini !!! Passport sampai di tahan ?! Gila ngak ?!


The hybrid Prius is made by low-wage temporary workers. The NLC says that one-third (10,000) of all Toyota assembly line workers in Japan are low-wage temps who have few rights and earn less than 60% of what full time workers do.


The company has a business relationship with Burmese (Myanmar) dictators through the Toyota Tsusho Corporation. As part of the Toyota Group of Companies, the NLC says that Toyota is involved in several joint business ventures with the ruthless military regime in Myanmar (Burma). The dictators use these revenues to repress and torture the people of that nation.


Toyota and the race to the bottom: Toyota is imposing its two-tier,low wage model at its non-union plants in the south of the United States, which will result in wages and benefits being slashed across the entire auto industry.


I haven’t read the entire report yet, but it does sound like an interesting if not provocative read. I know some Toyota enthusiasts will probably be offended by this article, but if these allegations are true, then that’s something to weigh if you are considering buying a Toyota.
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makin lama koq makin menjadi2 neh si tardman, enaknya di "e-santet" aja neh org