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VanzMatic wrote:Singkat aja dari gw:

Bosen gwe baca postingan Loe, om TM, postingan pesan sponsor dari lawyer2 GM yang kalah akibat statement Nasa!

Pasti loe udah disuap ama lawyer GM buat ngeblow kasus Toyota! Toyota menang di Amrik, GM ambruk.

Loe mau bilang gw nuduh eloe disuap lawyer Amrik untuk blow kasus Toyota di trit ini? SILAKAN! SIAPA TAKUT?! Makan lagi tuh tuduhan Eloe ke semua pihak yang elo tuduh makan suap! Noh, MAKAN LAGI TUH tuduhan balik gwe!

Sekian!

kayaknya TM ini "markus" yang "gatot" deh...
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apalagi ditambah habis makan bakso bang jem. yg puuedeeessss banget. keringat tambah mengucur......
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Andrian wrote:apalagi ditambah habis makan bakso bang jem. yg puuedeeessss banget. keringat tambah mengucur......
Wiissss .... Sedaaapppp.....
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Abu2 wrote:kayaknya TM ini "markus" yang "gatot" deh...
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Manusia gatot :mrgreen:
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VanzMatic wrote:Singkat aja dari gw:

Bosen gwe baca postingan Loe, om TM, postingan pesan sponsor dari lawyer2 GM yang kalah akibat statement Nasa!

Pasti loe udah disuap ama lawyer GM buat ngeblow kasus Toyota! Toyota menang di Amrik, GM ambruk.

Loe mau bilang gw nuduh eloe disuap lawyer Amrik untuk blow kasus Toyota di trit ini? SILAKAN! SIAPA TAKUT?! Makan lagi tuh tuduhan Eloe ke semua pihak yang elo tuduh makan suap! Noh, MAKAN LAGI TUH tuduhan balik gwe!

Sekian!

Tenang2... tenang Oom :) Buat lucu2an ajah yah :)
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Aku kan penyimak tret tom & jerry... :big_weee: aku ma oom jemb lagi lesehan nih sruput teh wastel (oom jemb), aku wasgitel, bareng balok (singkong) goreng. Mau tambah tahu susur atw bakwan? Monggo dipesen mas... :mrgreen:
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Hi hi hi...om Vanz tumben marah2...tenang aja om :mrgreen:
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VanzMatic wrote:Aku kan penyimak tret tom & jerry... :big_weee: aku ma oom jemb lagi lesehan nih sruput teh wastel (oom jemb), aku wasgitel, bareng balok (singkong) goreng. Mau tambah tahu susur atw bakwan? Monggo dipesen mas... :mrgreen:
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FortunerMan wrote:Hi hi hi...om Vanz tumben marah2...tenang aja om :mrgreen:
Xixixi...makanya aku nyruput teh wasgitel aja, om.... Wangi, sepet, legi, kentel... sama jajanan singkong goreng, bakwan ma tahu isi... Nyammie... :big_peace:
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Kalo kayak giniii,.... mudah2an bukan karena pedal gas yaaa.... gambar Xenia ini saya ambil langsung hari Jumat siang, lagi diderek ama derek Polda, pas di bawah tol cawang, utara lampu merah simpangan jalan inspeksi kalimalang, waktu saya mengarah ke selatan..

Kalo udah gini, yg rugi siapa, hayoo...? Ati2 di jalan ya gan...! Duid bisa dicari buat benerin ini mobil, tapii, kalo nyawa..? Amit-amiit, dah! Naudzubillah!
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Bisa saja karena pedal gas juga. Berita RECALL BARU toyota : 2.17 JUTA di RECALL karena katanya masalah pedal gas, tanggal berita 24 Feb 2011 :


http://www.freep.com/article/20110224/B ... /110224021

VanzMatic wrote:Kalo kayak giniii,.... mudah2an bukan karena pedal gas yaaa.... gambar Xenia ini saya ambil langsung hari Jumat siang, lagi diderek ama derek Polda, pas di bawah tol cawang, utara lampu merah simpangan jalan inspeksi kalimalang, waktu saya mengarah ke selatan..

Kalo udah gini, yg rugi siapa, hayoo...? Ati2 di jalan ya gan...! Duid bisa dicari buat benerin ini mobil, tapii, kalo nyawa..? Amit-amiit, dah! Naudzubillah!
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DEmi Tuhan, untung saya engga main taruhan ama SMers yg laen. Dalam hati saya, Demi Tuhan, saya mbatin: Pasti Toyotaman sedang mengincar postingan yang akan saya posting dengan foto Xenia tadi.

Dan Ternyata BENAAAARRRR... BHWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... :big_weee: kalo saya bertaruh 50juta tadi, saya udah langsung dp mobil Karlo deh.... Toyotaman langsung menyergap postingan saya... Langsung poster guede2....

Padahal itu kan asli Daihatsu Xenia... Xenia Xi.. :ungg: Apa hubungannya yaa sama recall TOYOTA... :e-think: Hadeh.... Toyotaman jadi buta huruf ya.... Atauuu....dia gag tau ya kalo Avanza tuh adlh produk Daihatsu..? Apalagi ini jelas2 ane post mobil yg cilaka adlh XENIA.... Hmmmmpppfffff.... :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:

Bung Toyotaman, ga usah nonjok2 gituu...mending ente nanya aja ndiri ama mobil derek Polda nya,"Pak Polisi, ini pasti karena pedal gas kan?? Pedal gas kan?? Iya kan??? Ini pasti unit yang harusnya direcall kan???" :weekk:

Coba aja gih tanya kayak gitu, kalo ngga langsung di...:snipersmile:
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Jujur, saya juga mendengar berita recall Toyota via radio lokal Jakarta, wktu melintas di depan pasar Jatinegara. Tgl 25 Februari kemaren.. Dan mayoritas adalah LEXUS, dan produk2 yang namanya ga asing, tapi engga masuk resmi disini... Maaph ye bang Toyotaman, Xenia Avanza engga termasuk yang direcall, lagipula, itu recall menyergap produk Amrik. Setir kiri pulak...
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Mudah mudahan lo benar, karena di Jepang aja, toyota terbukti juga kadang suka menutup nutupi kasus, apalagi di Indonesia, coba baca berita di Jepang ini :


http://www.theledger.com/article/201003 ... ?p=1&tc=pg


Millions of Toyotas Recalled, None in Japan

HIROKO TABUCHI

Published: Saturday, March 6, 2010 at 5:12 a.m.

TOKYO — Feeling her Toyota Mark X station wagon lurch forward at a busy intersection, Masako Sakai slammed on the brakes. But the pedal “had gone limp,” she said. Downshifting didn’t seem to work either.


Masako Sakai, 64, in Tokyo, where she said her Toyota suddenly accelerated before hitting two other vehicles and injuring three people. She said Toyota was not interested in her complaint.
“I tried everything I could think of,” Mrs. Sakai, 64, said, as she recently recalled the accident that happened six months ago.


Her car surged forward nearly 3,000 feet before slamming into a Mercedes Benz and a taxi, injuring drivers in both those vehicles and breaking Mrs. Sakai’s collarbone.


As shaken as she was by the accident, Mrs. Sakai says she was even more surprised by what happened after. She says that Toyota — from her dealer to headquarters — has not responded to her inquiries, and Japanese authorities have been indifferent to her concerns as a consumer.


Mrs. Sakai says the Tokyo Metropolitan Police urged her to sign a statement saying that she pressed the accelerator by mistake — something she strongly denies. She says the police told her she could have her damaged car back to get it repaired if she made that admission. She declined.


The police say it was a misunderstanding and that they kept her car to carry out their investigation.


But veterans of Japan’s moribund consumer rights movement say that Mrs. Sakai, like many Japanese, is the victim of a Japanese establishment that values Japanese business over Japanese consumers, and the lack of consumer protections here.


“In Japan, there is a phrase: if something smells, put a lid on it,” said Shunkichi Takayama, a Tokyo-based lawyer who has handled complaints related to Toyota vehicles


Toyota has recalled eight million cars outside Japan because of unexpected acceleration and other problems, but has insisted that there are no systemic problems with its cars sold in Japan. The company recalled the Prius for a brake problem earlier this year.


Critics say many companies benefit from Japan’s weak consumer protections. (The country has only one full-time automobile recall investigator, supported by 15 others on limited contracts.)


In a case in the food industry, a meat processor called Meat Hope collapsed in 2008 after revelations that it had mixed pork, mutton and chicken bits into products falsely labeled as pure ground beef, all under the noses of food inspectors.


A 2006 police inquiry into gas water heaters made by the manufacturer Paloma found that a defect had resulted in the deaths of 21 people over 10 years from carbon monoxide poisoning.


Paloma initially insisted that users had tampered with the heaters’ safety device; the company ultimately admitted that the heaters were at fault — and that executives had been aware of a potential problem for more than a decade. Executives are now being charged with professional negligence, and a court verdict is due in May.


When it comes to cars, the rapid growth of the auto industry here and of car ownership in the 1960s and ’70s was accompanied by a spate of fatal accidents. A consumer movement soon emerged among owners of these defective vehicles.


The most active was the Japan Automobile Consumers Union, led by Fumio Matsuda, a former Nissan engineer often referred to as the Ralph Nader of Japan. But the automakers fought back with a campaign discrediting the activists as dangerous agitators. Mr. Matsuda and his lawyer were soon arrested and charged with blackmail. They fought the charges to Japan’s highest court, but lost.


Now, few people are willing to take on the country’s manufacturers at the risk of arrest, Mr. Matsuda said in a recent interview. “The state sided with the automakers, not the consumers,” he said.


It has become difficult for drivers to access even the most elementary data or details on incidents of auto defects, says Hiroko Isomura, an executive at the National Association of Consumer Specialists and a former adviser to the government on auto recalls. “Unfortunately, the Automobile Consumers Union was shut down,” she said. “No groups like that exist any more.”


For the government to order a recall, it must prove that automobiles do not meet national safety standards, which is difficult to do without the automakers’ cooperation. Most recalls are done on a voluntary basis without government supervision.


An examination of transport ministry records by The New York Times found that at least 99 incidents of unintended acceleration or surge in engine rotation had been reported in Toyotas since 2001, of which 31 resulted in some form of collision.


Critics like Mr. Takayama charge that the number of reports of sudden acceleration in Japan would be bigger if not for the way many automakers in Japan, helped by reticent regulators, have kept such cases out of official statistics, and out of the public eye.


In 2008, about 6,600 accidents and 30 deaths were blamed on drivers of all kinds of vehicles mistakenly pushing the accelerator instead of the brakes, according to the Tokyo-based Institute for Traffic Accident Research and Data Analysis.


But Mr. Takayama has long argued that number includes cases of sudden acceleration. “It has become the norm here to blame the driver in almost any circumstance,” he said.


“Regulators have long accepted the automakers’ assertions at face value,” said Yukiko Seko, a retired lawmaker of the Japan Communist Party who pursued the issue in Parliament in 2002.


The police strongly deny pressuring drivers to accept the blame in any automobile accident. “All investigations into auto accidents are conducted in a fair and transparent way,” the Tokyo Metropolitan Police said in response to an inquiry by The Times.


Figuring out who is really to blame can be hard because of Japan’s lack of investigators.


Japan’s leniency has also meant that automakers here have routinely ignored even some of the safety standards for cars sold in the United States. Until the early 1990s, Japanese cars sold domestically lacked the reinforcing bars in car walls required of all vehicles sold in the United States. Critics say skimping on safety was one way automakers generated profits in Japan to finance their export drive abroad.


A handful of industry critics like Mr. Takayama and Ms. Seko have, over the years, voiced concern over cases of sudden acceleration in Toyota and other cars in Japan. Under scrutiny especially after the introduction of automatic transmission cars in the late 1980s, Toyota recalled five models because a broken solder was found in its electronics system, which could cause unintended acceleration.


In 1988 the government ordered a nationwide study and tests, and urged automakers to introduce a fail-safe system to make sure the brakes always overrode the accelerator. This month, more than 20 years later, Toyota promised to install a brake override system in all its new models.


Meanwhile, Toyota maintains a large share on the Japanese market, with about 30 percent. The Prius gas-electric hybrid remained the top-selling car in Japan in February despite the automaker’s global recalls, figures released Thursday showed.


But Japan’s pro-industry postwar order may be changing.


In 2009, in one of the last administrative moves by the outgoing government, a new consumer affairs agency was set up to better police defective products, unsafe foods and mislabeling.


The new government’s transport minister, Seiji Maehara, has been outspoken against Toyota.


He said last week that he would push to revamp the country’s oversight of the auto industry, including adding more safety investigators. The government has also said it was examining 38 complaints of sudden acceleration in Toyotas reported from 2007 through 2009, as well as 96 cases in cars produced by other automakers.


Toyota continues to deny there are problems with unintended acceleration in Japan.


“Yes, there have been incidents of unintended acceleration in Japan,” Shinichi Sasaki, Toyota’s quality chief, said at a news conference last week. “But we believe we have checked each incident and determined that there was no problem with the car,” he said.


Mrs. Sakai said she has called and visited her Toyota dealer, as well as Toyota Motor itself, but has not received a response.


A Toyota spokeswoman, Mieko Iwasaki, confirmed that the automaker had been contacted about complaints of a crash caused by sudden acceleration in September. She said, however, that she could not divulge details of how the company handled each case.


“We are investigating the accident alongside the police, and are cooperating fully with investigations,” she said. “Anything we find, we will tell the police.”

VanzMatic wrote:Jujur, saya juga mendengar berita recall Toyota via radio lokal Jakarta, wktu melintas di depan pasar Jatinegara. Tgl 25 Februari kemaren.. Dan mayoritas adalah LEXUS, dan produk2 yang namanya ga asing, tapi engga masuk resmi disini... Maaph ye bang Toyotaman, Xenia Avanza engga termasuk yang direcall, lagipula, itu recall menyergap produk Amrik. Setir kiri pulak...
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Oom Turboman, jujur aja, ane post gambar Xenia ringsek diderek itu hanya dengan 1 tujuan: Mengingetkan juragan2 SM disini supaya lebih berhati2 di jalan, jangan sampai (amit amit) kayak Xenia itu... That's it!

Tapi waktu saya ngetik itu tadi, saya sempet khawatir, jangan2 oom Toyotaman akan menyergap saya, karena dia juga lama absen. Ternyata feeling saya terbukti. Toyotaman langsung bombardir... Owalaaah..... Toyotamaaan, Toyotaman.... Dia datang hanya untuk bikin panas suasana ajah..! Apa gunanya manusia, kalau datang hanya bikin panas suasana..?

To oom Toyotaman, sadarlah, sebagai manusia, Anda sebaiknya meninggalkan jejak sejarah yang baik... Jangan sampai Anda meninggalkan jejak sejarah Anda sendiri sebagai pribadi yang ngga baik, karena selalu bikin panas suasana disini...

Maaf oom Turboman, kalo sampai jadi panas gini... Saya sama sekali engga maksud bikin panas. Saya hanya pengin ngingetin, jangan sampai mobil kesayangan kita hancur gitu.. Itu aja...

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Lah, yang ngak baik, licik, siapa ? Kan toyota ! Saya mah cuman LAPOR doang ! Seperti media masa yang terus lapor kebobrokan system hukum kita, lapor koruptor, lapor informasi dari PPATK yang ketemu transaksi tidak wajar yang di lakukan oknum pejabat kita.


Apa salahnya ? Kalau gitu Kompas, Metro TV, TV One, semua juga tidak baik dong ? Karena melapor kebobrokan negara sendiri. Saya masih mending, cuman lapor kebobrokan toyota - perusahaan JEPANG doang.


Apalagi kalau saya juga ikut lapor kasus korupsi baru di Indonesia, saat itu saya makin di bilang ini itu lagi dong ?


VanzMatic wrote:Oom Turboman, jujur aja, ane post gambar Xenia ringsek diderek itu hanya dengan 1 tujuan: Mengingetkan juragan2 SM disini supaya lebih berhati2 di jalan, jangan sampai (amit amit) kayak Xenia itu... That's it!

Tapi waktu saya ngetik itu tadi, saya sempet khawatir, jangan2 oom Toyotaman akan menyergap saya, karena dia juga lama absen. Ternyata feeling saya terbukti. Toyotaman langsung bombardir... Owalaaah..... Toyotamaaan, Toyotaman.... Dia datang hanya untuk bikin panas suasana ajah..! Apa gunanya manusia, kalau datang hanya bikin panas suasana..?

To oom Toyotaman, sadarlah, sebagai manusia, Anda sebaiknya meninggalkan jejak sejarah yang baik... Jangan sampai Anda meninggalkan jejak sejarah Anda sendiri sebagai pribadi yang ngga baik, karena selalu bikin panas suasana disini...

Maaf oom Turboman, kalo sampai jadi panas gini... Saya sama sekali engga maksud bikin panas. Saya hanya pengin ngingetin, jangan sampai mobil kesayangan kita hancur gitu.. Itu aja...

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Petuah yg bagus sekali om Vanz... :e-clap:
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toyotaman wrote:Lah, yang ngak baik, licik, siapa ? Kan toyota ! Saya mah cuman LAPOR doang ! Seperti media masa yang terus lapor kebobrokan system hukum kita, lapor koruptor, lapor informasi dari PPATK yang ketemu transaksi tidak wajar yang di lakukan oknum pejabat kita.


Apa salahnya ? Kalau gitu Kompas, Metro TV, TV One, semua juga tidak baik dong ? Karena melapor kebobrokan negara sendiri. Saya masih mending, cuman lapor kebobrokan toyota - perusahaan JEPANG doang.


Apalagi kalau saya juga ikut lapor kasus korupsi baru di Indonesia, saat itu saya makin di bilang ini itu lagi dong ?


VanzMatic wrote:Oom Turboman, jujur aja, ane post gambar Xenia ringsek diderek itu hanya dengan 1 tujuan: Mengingetkan juragan2 SM disini supaya lebih berhati2 di jalan, jangan sampai (amit amit) kayak Xenia itu... That's it!

Tapi waktu saya ngetik itu tadi, saya sempet khawatir, jangan2 oom Toyotaman akan menyergap saya, karena dia juga lama absen. Ternyata feeling saya terbukti. Toyotaman langsung bombardir... Owalaaah..... Toyotamaaan, Toyotaman.... Dia datang hanya untuk bikin panas suasana ajah..! Apa gunanya manusia, kalau datang hanya bikin panas suasana..?

To oom Toyotaman, sadarlah, sebagai manusia, Anda sebaiknya meninggalkan jejak sejarah yang baik... Jangan sampai Anda meninggalkan jejak sejarah Anda sendiri sebagai pribadi yang ngga baik, karena selalu bikin panas suasana disini...

Maaf oom Turboman, kalo sampai jadi panas gini... Saya sama sekali engga maksud bikin panas. Saya hanya pengin ngingetin, jangan sampai mobil kesayangan kita hancur gitu.. Itu aja...

Salam damai
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Saya sedang bicara ttg DAIHATSU XENIA yang ringsek. JELAS?
Anda memang tendensius untuk membelokkan ke TOYOTA kembali, demi tercapainya maksud dan tujuan anda tadi tersebut diatas, kan?

Semula Anda menuduh Toyota begini:
toyotaman wrote:Lah, yang ngak baik, licik, siapa ? Kan toyota !
Trus Anda belokkan lagi menjadi :
toyotaman wrote:Saya mah cuman LAPOR doang !
Kasian deh lu, dek Toyotaman....! :upss: :upss: :upss:

Sesungguhnya jika dalam hati manusia ada sedikit penyakit, maka Tuhan akan semakin menambah penyakit dalam hatinya.... Kalau niatan Anda baik, sampaikanlah dengan cara yang baik. Kalau niatan Anda sudah tidak baik, sudah pasti Anda menyampaikannya dengan cara yang tidak baik pula...

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FortunerMan wrote:Petuah yg bagus sekali om Vanz... :e-clap:
Saya hanya manusia biasa, oom FM, yang masih jauh dari sempurna, dan masiih banyak insan2 di dunia ini yang jauh lebih baik dari saya... Saya hanya menjalankan apa yang saya yakini.."nasihat menasihatilah dalam kebaikan.."

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Re: NASA - Toyota Tidak Ada Masalah Elektronik

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