VIDEO Berita kasus HEBOH TOYOTA !

[ZombiEE]

Malam bang kelep...gimana sikon?aman terkendali?:D

[DOHC]

terkendali bang jemb.... pengacau2 dah di halau...

[ZombiEE]

Ok Deh..mantep sekali....lanjutkan bang kelep....

[toyotaman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAIn1RVLw5Q

[FortunerMan]

Cuman entah berapa kaskuser ngerti bahasa Inggris

Wtf? Do you think your english is that good 'tard? Your posts clearly show that you're not a native english speaker in fact your singlish is not that good either. By making the statement above i can conclude that you are not only an arrogant idiot but also a bigot no wonder you don't fit anywhere and a mere laughing stock for everybody(inluding your family perhaps?)

I guess when you were in school you are the type that got a daily ass kicking because you couldn't keep your mouth shut

What a fcuktard

Bwahahahahahahaha....Singlishnya aja kaga bener BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Knalpot]

kalau resale value nurut ane liatnya harus per produk ya. Gak liat merknya. Tapi kalau overall, toyota unggul, No contest.
Kedepan, karena bbm dibatasi,siapa yang tetap bisa bikin mobil irit,muat banyak,dan kuat dan yang paling penting murah,akan unggul.

BS. Justru toyota mayoritas nilai jual kembalinya kalah saing ama Nissan dan Honda jika ada saingannya.


Lu bilang No contest ? Silahkan sebut model toyota mana yang nilai jual kembalinya lebih unggul banding saingannya, bisa merek Nissan atau Honda atau merek lain juga boleh.


Coba. Yang mana ?

Om ToyotaMan, kalau ane pakai kata ´Overall´ ya harus diartikan keseluruhan dunk Om, jadi tidak hanya resalevalue.
Okay, per produk mungkin ada yang merk lain selain Toyota yang unggul resale valuenya. Tapi kalau sudah ´´overall´´, Toyota lebih unggul, No Contest.
Harus diakui suka apa tidak suka.

contoh :
Bengkel resmi diseluruh Indonesia :
Toyota vs Nisan ? ----> No Contest

Penjualan perbulan SEMUA TYPE :
Toyota vs Nissan ? ----> No Contest

Dan ini yang lebih penting kalau buat ane : Ketersediaan part, baik orisinal maupun KW-1 dst.
coba mana yang nyediain part KW yang murah meriah ?
Baca aja tuh di tread sebelah, fordnya Om FM cari shock breaker aja susah dan mahal sampai harus diakalin di las.
Coba search juga harga spion grandis. gw ernah nulis sebiji aja harganya 3.5 jt .. xi..xi..

Untuk ketersediaan part KW ini ane berani bilang :
Toyota vs All----> No Contest

[ak4ng]

satuju sama knalpot

[ZombiEE]

Setubuuuhhh

[BADAK]

kalau resale value nurut ane liatnya harus per produk ya. Gak liat merknya. Tapi kalau overall, toyota unggul, No contest.
Kedepan, karena bbm dibatasi,siapa yang tetap bisa bikin mobil irit,muat banyak,dan kuat dan yang paling penting murah,akan unggul.

BS. Justru toyota mayoritas nilai jual kembalinya kalah saing ama Nissan dan Honda jika ada saingannya.


Lu bilang No contest ? Silahkan sebut model toyota mana yang nilai jual kembalinya lebih unggul banding saingannya, bisa merek Nissan atau Honda atau merek lain juga boleh.


Coba. Yang mana ?

Om ToyotaMan, kalau ane pakai kata ´Overall´ ya harus diartikan keseluruhan dunk Om, jadi tidak hanya resalevalue.
Okay, per produk mungkin ada yang merk lain selain Toyota yang unggul resale valuenya. Tapi kalau sudah ´´overall´´, Toyota lebih unggul, No Contest.
Harus diakui suka apa tidak suka.

contoh :
Bengkel resmi diseluruh Indonesia :
Toyota vs Nisan ? ----> No Contest

Penjualan perbulan SEMUA TYPE :
Toyota vs Nissan ? ----> No Contest

Dan ini yang lebih penting kalau buat ane : Ketersediaan part, baik orisinal maupun KW-1 dst.
coba mana yang nyediain part KW yang murah meriah ?
Baca aja tuh di tread sebelah, fordnya Om FM cari shock breaker aja susah dan mahal sampai harus diakalin di las.
Coba search juga harga spion grandis. gw ernah nulis sebiji aja harganya 3.5 jt .. xi..xi..

Untuk ketersediaan part KW ini ane berani bilang :
Toyota vs All----> No Contest

Saya kurang setuju kalo ketersediaan parts KW Toyota vs All ------> No Contest.
Setau saya dominasi parts KW terbanyak adalah mitsubishi. Dimana mitsu adlh pemegang pangsa pasar mbl niaga terbesar di indo. Sedangkan toyota lebih mendominasi pangsa mbl penumpang. Logika nya mbl niaga bekerja lebih berat & lebih sering drpd mbl penumpang, sehingga frekuensi penggantian parts lebih cepat. Jadi jangan heran kl parts mbl niaga ada KW1 - KW5

[ak4ng]

kan bicarain mbil penumpang,, bukan truk atw bus

[ak4ng]

kan bicarain mbil penumpang,, bukan truk atw bus dak,,

[BADAK]

kan bicarain mbil penumpang,, bukan truk atw bus dak,,

Perbandingan awalnya kan universal.

contoh :
Bengkel resmi diseluruh Indonesia :
Toyota vs Nisan ? ----> No Contest

Penjualan perbulan SEMUA TYPE :
Toyota vs Nissan ? ----> No Contest

Apa disebutin bengkel resmi khusus mobil penumpang, atau penjualan per bulan mobil penumpang?
Walopun di khususkan parts KW mobil penumpang, saya gak yakin Toyota jg memiliki dominasi parts KW terbanyak.
Mitsu, Daihatsu, Suzuki & Isuzu bisa jadi lebih banyak drpd Toyota. Apalagi Toyota adalah ATPM paling gencar melakukan sweeping thd parts KW. Sedangkan Mitsu & Isuzu cenderung tutup mata thd parts KW yg ada dipasaran.

[Knalpot]

kan bicarain mbil penumpang,, bukan truk atw bus dak,,

Perbandingan awalnya kan universal.

contoh :
Bengkel resmi diseluruh Indonesia :
Toyota vs Nisan ? ----> No Contest

Penjualan perbulan SEMUA TYPE :
Toyota vs Nissan ? ----> No Contest

Apa disebutin bengkel resmi khusus mobil penumpang, atau penjualan per bulan mobil penumpang?
Walopun di khususkan parts KW mobil penumpang, saya gak yakin Toyota jg memiliki dominasi parts KW terbanyak.
Mitsu, Daihatsu, Suzuki & Isuzu bisa jadi lebih banyak drpd Toyota. Apalagi Toyota adalah ATPM paling gencar melakukan sweeping thd parts KW. Sedangkan Mitsu & Isuzu cenderung tutup mata thd parts KW yg ada dipasaran.

Yang ane Bold, beneran itu om ?? Sorry gw baru tau.. Waaaah sayang kalau bener. Padahal itu salah satu keunggulan Toyota.
Okay, thanks koreksinya.. ya udah ane rubah :

Untuk ketersediaan part KW ini ane berani bilang :
Toyota vs Nissan (Except Mitsu, Zuzu, Izu)----> No Contest

[toyotaman]

SEKALI LAGI, toyota melakukan SETTLEMENT, memang pintar sih urusan ginian kalau petingginya belajar HUKUM ! Seperti contoh, Haposan Hutagalung SH, pandai sekali main trik trik macam macam.


Yang ngak ngerti Inggris, pakai aja Google translate, langsung dapat versi Indonesianya. Translatornya ini :

http://translate.google.co.id/#


Ini berita permainan toyota lagi :

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/2011 ... 5/-1/RSS04


" Toyota settles class-action suit over Prius hybrids
Move avoids recall over headlight failures


Toyota has not conceded that the 2006 to 2009 Prius hybrids have a defect in the lighting system, despite complaints to federal regulators.

Tuh kan ? Jelas udah ngak benar MASIH NGAK MAU NGAKU LAGI !!! Biasa, seperti pengacara ngak benar...


LOS ANGELES -- Toyota Motor Corp. has agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit over headlights in its 2006 to 2009 Prius hybrids that shut off without warning, triggering at least 2,500 complaints from motorists.


Under the terms of the settlement, eligible Prius owners will be reimbursed for their costs to fix failing headlight systems. They also will get their warranties for headlight problems extended to five years or 50,000 miles, rather than the standard three years or 36,000 miles.


Although there was no dollar figure connected to the settlement, attorneys for plaintiffs estimated that the toll could run into the tens of millions of dollars, based on the number of vehicles potentially affected by the headlight problem. Those attorneys said 320,000 owners of Priuses with optional high-intensity discharge headlights may be covered by the agreement.


"Conservatively, there are tens of thousands of lights that were replaced or repaired," said Eric Gibbs, a San Francisco attorney representing the class.


In settling, the beleaguered Japanese automaker removes another challenge from its hefty legal docket, but also adds to the mounting costs of addressing its recent quality and safety issues.


Toyota faces hundreds of lawsuits for other issues, including sudden acceleration and rollover problems.


(Baru tau yah kenapa para petinggi toyota dari dulu ngak mau belajar ilmu Engineering, teknologi gitu, eh malah belajarnya HUKUM !!!)


Judge Manuel Real of U.S. District Court in Los Angeles certified the class and gave preliminary approval of the settlement last week. Under its terms, eligible Prius owners will be notified by mail starting next month and have 90 days thereafter to register with the class.


By settling, Toyota avoids the risk of having a jury determine that the headlight problem is in fact a defect, which could spur a recall to replace all such headlights. Under the settlement, the automaker did not admit wrongdoing or liability.


GILA NGAK ???


The automaker has not conceded that the 2006 to 2009 Prius hybrids have a defect in the lighting system, despite the numerous complaints to regulators that the HID headlamps tend to suddenly turn off, with both headlights going out simultaneously in some cases, a potentially hazardous condition.


A review of the NHTSA database shows that 49 percent of all complaints about 2006 to 2009 Priuses were related to lighting, headlamps, or visibility. That far outnumbers complaints of sudden acceleration or braking issues in the vehicles, both of which have led to recalls.


Beyond the safety risks of the headlight problem, many consumers also complained that dealers refused to cover the costs of repair. Instead, they were forced to pay for new headlights, or in many cases a new onboard computer that controls the lighting system.


GILA NGAK ???


The costs of repairs varied, but typically ran between $250 and $1,000, attorneys said.


One NHTSA complaint, for example, cites a service manager charging $578 to replace both headlamps in a 2006 Prius, but notes the manager "wouldn't guarantee that would solve the problem."


The settlement will allow consumers who have receipts for their repairs, either at a Toyota dealership or elsewhere, to file for reimbursement.


"Anyone who had any bulb or computer failure will now be able to get their money back," attorney Gibbs said. "I think we reached a pretty good settlement."


Mr. Gibbs said that during discovery in the case Toyota showed evidence suggesting that the problem lay in the headlamps themselves, rather than in the computer, or ECU, that controlled them. Toyota has since moved to a new bulb, which it says does not fail as readily as the previous model.


Pokoknya toyota BANYAK SEKALI MASALAH. Liat aja di luar negeri konsumen sering di sogok supaya ngak tuntut di pengadilan, untuk hindari image kena. APALAGI di INDONESIA ????

[bushkntl]

......By settling, Toyota avoids the risk of having a jury determine that the headlight problem is in fact a defect, which could spur a recall to replace all such headlights. Under the settlement, the automaker did not admit wrongdoing or liability.[/size][/b]


GILA NGAK ???

......

Beyond the safety risks of the headlight problem, many consumers also complained that dealers refused to cover the costs of repair. Instead, they were forced to pay for new headlights, or in many cases a new onboard computer that controls the lighting system[/size][/b].


GILA NGAK ???

ada yg lebih gila 'tard tuh gw kasih copasannya dibawah baca deh ada looooser idiot pake nyawa keluarga buat bela merek

One more thing guys. Mengenai data BBM itu, kali ini conan benar benar harus nelan kata sendiri......Saya berani bersumpah atas jiwa anak saya dengan informasi ini. Kalau saya berbohong tentang info ini, anak saya di kutuk mati atau tidak akan lewat umur 3 tahun ! ...

OK. Jangan pakai nyawa anak saya. Pakai saja nyawa SELURUH keluarga saya. Jika saya berbohong tentang info dari NMI internal itu, SEMUA anggota keluarga saya termasuk saya tewas. Lebih ngilu ? Sorry. Tapi saya di hadapi oposisi yang tidak wajar, mau ngak mau saya harus nunjukan ke-seriusan saya. X-Trail / Serena bisa 1:7-8 dalam kota dan Livina 1.8 1:7 dan 1.5 1:8.5 ? Pikir sendiri deh wajar atau ngak. Apakah worse case scenario atau tidak. .....

[toyotaman]

Orang GILA yang membela perusahaan GILA !!!

[bushkntl]

Orang GILA yang membela perusahaan GILA !!!

SETUJU banget 'tard coba baca neh dibawah gw juga tulisan orang GILA

One more thing guys. Mengenai data BBM itu, kali ini conan benar benar harus nelan kata sendiri......Saya berani bersumpah atas jiwa anak saya dengan informasi ini. Kalau saya berbohong tentang info ini, anak saya di kutuk mati atau tidak akan lewat umur 3 tahun ! ...

OK. Jangan pakai nyawa anak saya. Pakai saja nyawa SELURUH keluarga saya. Jika saya berbohong tentang info dari NMI internal itu, SEMUA anggota keluarga saya termasuk saya tewas. Lebih ngilu ? Sorry. Tapi saya di hadapi oposisi yang tidak wajar, mau ngak mau saya harus nunjukan ke-seriusan saya. X-Trail / Serena bisa 1:7-8 dalam kota dan Livina 1.8 1:7 dan 1.5 1:8.5 ? Pikir sendiri deh wajar atau ngak. Apakah worse case scenario atau tidak. .....

[pcx]

Sodara ane ada yang punya Innova 2.7V, kalo ga salah produksi taon 2005
tapi katanya gile FC nya 1:5/6 km
jadinya mobilnya nongkrong doank jarang banget dipake

ga jelek jelekin merk

Tangan pertama ?

KM ?

Kondisi ?

Bisa lihat fotonya ?

Gilee tret perang baru beberapa hari udah berpage-page
Yup bro turboman ,tangan pertama dari baru
kliatannya on the road taon 2005 : Rp 280 jt an
Kalo odometer KM sekarang ane ga tau
Kondisi pastinya sih bagus ya
Fotonya blom bisa bro, kita beda kota
ditampung dulu ya

[ZombiEE]

Untung ane waras....

[Turboman]

Untung ane waras....

Kalo Toyotamen lawan babeh ente *unjuk2 avatar om Zom* kira2 memang mana tuu om Zombie

[ZombiEE]

Kira2 bos toyota lawan bos nuklir menang sapa ya?‎​​メίίメίίメίί‎​​メίίメίίメίί ƙα̇̇̇̊α̇̇̇̊ßúúяяя•*˚*•

[FortunerMan]

Orang GILA yang membela perusahaan GILA !!!

SETUJU banget 'tard coba baca neh dibawah gw juga tulisan orang GILA

One more thing guys. Mengenai data BBM itu, kali ini conan benar benar harus nelan kata sendiri......Saya berani bersumpah atas jiwa anak saya dengan informasi ini. Kalau saya berbohong tentang info ini, anak saya di kutuk mati atau tidak akan lewat umur 3 tahun ! ...

OK. Jangan pakai nyawa anak saya. Pakai saja nyawa SELURUH keluarga saya. Jika saya berbohong tentang info dari NMI internal itu, SEMUA anggota keluarga saya termasuk saya tewas. Lebih ngilu ? Sorry. Tapi saya di hadapi oposisi yang tidak wajar, mau ngak mau saya harus nunjukan ke-seriusan saya. X-Trail / Serena bisa 1:7-8 dalam kota dan Livina 1.8 1:7 dan 1.5 1:8.5 ? Pikir sendiri deh wajar atau ngak. Apakah worse case scenario atau tidak. .....

SUMPAH SITHLORD BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[DOHC]

numpang lewat ahhh..... ehhh.. susterr.. itu pasien bangsal psikiatri dah diminum blom obat nya... kalo dia menolak, campurin aja obat nya di kue atau teh nya.... kasian saya liatnya uring2 an ga jlas kaya orang ga waras gt.... mending biar dia tidur dehh...

[ZombiEE]

Hamsiong dah chiong u buat...‎​ªkªkªkªkª =)) ªkªkªkªkª™

[toyotaman]

http://www.manufacturing.net/News-AP-In ... 41210.aspx


AP: In Toyota Lawsuits, Evasion Becomes Tactic

By Curt Anderson and Danny Robbins, Associated Press Writers
Manufacturing.Net - April 12, 2010


MIAMI (AP) -- Toyota has routinely engaged in questionable, evasive and deceptive legal tactics when sued, frequently claiming it does not have information it is required to turn over and sometimes even ignoring court orders to produce key documents, an Associated Press investigation shows.


In a review of lawsuits filed around the country involving a wide range of complaints -- not just the sudden acceleration problems that have led to millions of Toyotas being recalled -- the automaker has hidden the existence of tests that would be harmful to its legal position and claimed key material was difficult to get at its headquarters in Japan. It has withheld potentially damaging documents and refused to release data stored electronically in its vehicles.


For example, in a Colorado product liability lawsuit filed by a man whose young daughter was killed in a 4Runner rollover crash, Toyota withheld documents about internal roof strength tests despite a federal judge's order that such information be produced, according to court records. The attorneys for Jon Kurylowicz now say such documents might have changed the outcome of the case, which ended in a 2005 jury verdict for Toyota.


"Mr. Kurylowicz went to trial without having been given all the relevant evidence and all the evidence the court ordered Toyota to produce," attorney Stuart Ollanik wrote in a new federal lawsuit accusing Toyota of fraud in the earlier case. "The Kurylowicz trial was not a fair trial."


In another case involving a Texas woman killed when her Toyota Land Cruiser lurched backward and pinned her against a garage wall, the Japanese automaker told lawyers for the woman's family it was unaware of any similar cases. Yet less than a year earlier, Toyota had settled a nearly identical lawsuit in the same state involving a Baptist minister who was severely injured after he said his Land Cruiser abruptly rolled backward over him. Under court discovery rules, Toyota had an obligation to inform the woman's attorneys about the case when formally asked.


"Automobile manufacturers, in my practice, have been the toughest to deal with when it comes to sharing information, but Toyota has no peer," said attorney Ernest Cannon, who represented the family of 35-year-old Lisa Evans, who died in 2002 in the Houston suburb of Sugar Land.


The AP reviewed numerous cases around the country in which Toyota's actions were evasive, and sometimes even deceptive, in providing answers to questions posed by plaintiffs. Court rules generally allow a person or company who is sued to object to turning over requested information; it's permitted and even expected that defense attorneys play hardball, but it's a violation to claim evidence does not exist when it does.


Similar claims have been lodged by Dimitrios Biller, a former Toyota attorney who sued the company in August, contending it withheld evidence in considerably older rollover cases.


Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which has subpoenaed some of Biller's still-undisclosed records, says they show possible violations of discovery orders.


Toyota disputes Towns' statement and the accusations of deception. In a statement to the AP, Toyota said it plays by the rules when it comes to defending itself.


"Toyota takes its legal obligations seriously and strives to maintain the highest professional and ethical standards, in connection with litigation and otherwise," the company said. "We are confident we have acted appropriately with respect to product liability litigation."


How Toyota handled past lawsuits could indicate how it will deal with more than 130 potential class-action lawsuits filed by owners who claim the recent recalls have triggered a sharp loss in their vehicles' value. Separately, Toyota faces nearly 100 federal wrongful death and injury lawsuits by victims who blame their crashes on sudden acceleration.


A panel of federal judges decided last week to consolidate the sudden acceleration-related cases before U.S. District Judge James V. Selna in Orange County, Calif., near Los Angeles. Selna will handle key pretrial matters in all the cases, including decisions on what material and documents Toyota will be required to produce as evidence.


The dozens of lawsuits reviewed by the AP, spanning the past decade, dealt with allegations of vehicle rollovers, faulty air bag deployments, defective transmissions, bad brakes and crashes blamed on sudden acceleration -- the issue at the heart of the company's current recall of some 8 million vehicles worldwide. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has linked 52 deaths to accelerator-related crashes.


Additional related lawsuits examined in the AP review found:


-- Toyota hid the existence of its roof strength tests in numerous cases. A new potential class-action lawsuit filed in California on behalf of two women left paralyzed by separate Toyota rollover crashes contends that recently uncovered company documents contradict sworn testimony by Toyota officials that the company had no written standard for how far vehicle roofs could be crushed. The long-hidden documents indicate Toyota did have such a standard: roofs could come no closer than a half-millimeter from test dummies' heads in a rollover crash.


"This type of conduct by the Toyota defendants is illegal, immoral and unprofessional," said attorney E. Todd Tracy in a similar recent lawsuit accusing Toyota of fraud in older cases. "The Toyota defendants' cloak and dagger games must be terminated."


-- Toyota claimed in court documents that a 2000 Camry had "no component" to record its speed at the time of a crash. A Texas woman suing the automaker asserted she was injured when the air bag failed to deploy. The case went to trial last September and ended with a jury ruling in Toyota's favor.


The attorney, Stephen Van Gaasbeck of San Antonio, later found documents showing the Camry did record such information and that Toyota had the ability to download it from vehicles as early as 1997, circumstances that now cause him to question the company's honesty.


"If we had the data, and the data said the speed was above what their air bag would have deployed at, then yes, it would have been a different case," said Van Gaasbeck. He added that an appeal based on the new information is unlikely because Texas appellate courts would likely favor Toyota based on previous rulings.


-- The attorney for 76-year-old retiree Robert Elmes -- hospitalized for five weeks after a 2006 crash in Pennsylvania in which he says his 2002 Camry surged forward unexpectedly -- has sought repeatedly and unsuccessfully in federal court to obtain Toyota documents concerning the car's electronic throttle control.


Questions surrounding that device are at the center of the government's investigation into sudden acceleration. Toyota has denied the electronic throttle control is to blame for the crashes. Elmes, of Canonsburg, Pa., said it's clear Toyota is "dragging it out as long as possible" to avoid making any disclosures in court involving the electronic throttle control. Elmes filed his lawsuit in 2008, well before Toyota's recalls began.


"Before the accident, I thought that was the nicest car I ever owned. Now I think Toyota's interest is only in the bottom line, period, and they don't care about safety," Elmes said in a telephone interview. "I wouldn't take another Toyota if they gave it to me."


Toyota has filed court papers asking that most of these new lawsuits accusing the company of fraud years ago be included in the broader consolidation of sudden acceleration cases.


Attorneys who regularly defend corporate clients say it's common for plaintiffs' lawyers to complain they are not receiving the information they need and that Toyota's tactics do not necessarily indicate nefarious intent.


"It's always a battle in these big cases between plaintiffs and corporations as to what documents they have and whether or not they produce everything they should have," said Matthew Cairns, president-elect of the 22,500-member DRI-Voice of the Defense Bar group of civil defense attorneys. "Plaintiffs always try to get more, hoping to find something. It's for the court to ultimately resolve who is right."


Still, some attorneys who have fought Toyota in the past say the company's evasiveness exceeds the normal legal back-and-forth and that Toyota may have benefited from being based in another country.


"They've used the Pacific Ocean as a great defense to producing documents," said Graham Esdale, a lawyer in Montgomery, Ala., who has sued Toyota. "If Ford or General Motors tells you something and you don't believe that it's right, you can get a court order to go get access to the documents instead of relying on them. We can just go there and start poring through documents. We don't have that with the Japanese manufacturers."