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asudarsono wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:terserah situ mau percaya atau nggak.
PEUGEOT 207 (1 STAR)

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Yuk main tebak2an, sebutkan tiga perbedaan antara mobil 207 versi Fortunerman dan 207 yang asli.
gw gak ngerti emang 207 beda kualitas di setiap negara? mestinya standardnya sama dong bro?
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Wah, apakah standard kualitas 207 sama di setiap negara saya kurang kopi, bro. Mohon waktu untuk menelitinya. Nanti pasti saya jawab.

Kalau foto di atas, bukan standard yang saya lihat tapi kok rasanya 207 yang ditabrakin si FM lain bener deh sama 207 yang dijual di mana2. Saya lihat dari bentuk pintu belakang, pegangan pintu, kaca spion luar dll kok kayaknya beda bener. Apakah ini krn downspec?

Kalau 207 yang dijual di Eropa dan Indonesia adalah yang menghadap ke kanan. TIDAK ADA SATUPUN 207 VERSI FM YANG DIJUAL DI INDONESIA !
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bushkntl wrote:gw gak ngerti emang 207 beda kualitas di setiap negara? mestinya standardnya sama dong bro?
Nah itu dia, TIDAK SAMA...si asudarsono nyembah org Prancis dan koar2 kalo safetynya Peugeot tiada tara...Toyota gak keluar airbagnya, dll. Taunya keluar Latin NCAP...

SUMBER: LATIN NCAP http://www.latinncap.com/_en/?pg=results

Peugeot 207 1 Star, Geely 0 besar...gak beda jauh lah :mrgreen: Mungkin buat Amerika Latin Peugeot pake besi kerupuk...jangan2 Indonesia juga gitu...sama2 daerah berkembang.
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Lho gambarnya mana tuh? Ketahuan pamer 207 jadi2an ya.....

Jangan2 sumbernya juga sumber jadi2an.
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asudarsono wrote:Jangan2 sumbernya juga sumber jadi2an.
Pembaca SM yg lain tidak sebodoh anda - mereka bisa click sendiri kok. Dan mereka akan nyadar, sumber FM jelas (terlepas mereka setuju atau tidak)...sedangkan asudarsono omong kosong :mrgreen:

SUMBER: http://www.latinncap.com/_en/?pg=results
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Udah coba telpon mereka? Menanyakan mengapa pasang foto 207 salah?
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asudarsono wrote:Udah coba telpon mereka? Menanyakan mengapa pasang foto 207 salah?
Standar banget...kalah argumen belaga gila dia. Tenang aja asudarsono, pembaca SM tau cara click sumber kok...

Nah mereka akan mikir...kok 207 hasil di Eropa dan Amerika Latin berbeda ya...apa karena manusia di Amerika Latin gak dianggep sehingga besinya asal2an aja? Itu harus diteliti lagi. Yg jelas hasil crash testnya udah jelas, Peugeot 207 1 star :mrgreen: Apa ini hasil downspec? Ya jelas iya...airbag tidak ada...reaksi body shell hancur lebur.

SUMBER: LATIN NCAP http://www.latinncap.com/_en/?pg=results
Adult occupant: The rating for the vehicle was limited to 1 star due to the unacceptably high risk of life threatening injury to the driver's head presented by the steering wheel. The protection offered to the driver's lower legs was weak due to high rearward clutch and break pedal displacement. There were hazardous structures in the area of the fascia that could be impacted by an occupants knees. The body shell was not capable of withstanding further loading. The ruptures to the footwell threatened the driver's feet. The car has an airbag control tell-tale (light) in the instrument panel which will be illuminated after turning the ignition key and making contact. Unfortunately there were NO AIRBAGS in this car. The tell-tale may mislead consumers.
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peugeot 206 ama 207 sehh bentuk nya mirip2...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Pointnya...Peugeot yg disembah2 asudarsono ternyata jualan barang yg safetynya hancur lebur... lucu aja.
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btw om fm coba gugel dehh gambar peugeot yg 206, trus bandingin handle pintu nya, sama persis dgn yg di foto latin ncap itu loh... sdgkan kalo yg 207 uda beda handle pintu nya ama yg di foto latin ncap itu....

apa jangan2 yg 207 uda ada perbaikan di safety nya... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Bukan bro, Peugeot 207 di Amerika Latin itu Peugeot 206 di facelift tapi di jual dengan nama 207. Si asudarsono lama banget gak nyadar2 (sebenernya dia gak tau apa2 ttg Peugeot kayanya :mrgreen: )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_206
The car is sold under the "207 Compact" nameplate in Argentina, Mexico and Uruguay, in order to differentiate it from the European 207 CC and RC, which are also sold in those countries. Peugeot planned to name it "207 Brasil" in Brazil, but soon dropped the "Brasil" from the name, as this decision gained generally negative reactions from the media. The Brazilian 207 has also been criticized because it was perceived essentially as a facelifted 206, despite Peugeot's efforts to market it as an entirely new car and even selling it at a higher base price.
Sama dengan Malaysia...dan sebentar lagi Indonesia, Peugeot 207 sedan...basically 206 yg difacelift dikasi bokong dijual sebagai model baru

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http://paultan.org/2010/10/29/peugeot-2 ... f-the-t33/
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2010/10 ... .Tanah.Air

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emang sehh kalo diliat yg 206 ama 207 itu ada facelift dari tampilan nya... apalagi bagian depan nya uda berbeda jauh banget... yg 206 culun gt... tapi dgn facelift tsb apa safety nya jg diupgrade ga tuh.... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Jawabannya ya tidak bro, cuman facelift aja. Basically ini cara Peugeot bersaing harga dengan mobil Jepang/Korea/dll di negara2 berkembang. Model lama di facelift jual sbg model baru.
Ini Peugeot 207 Compact yg dapet crash test bintang satu itu http://www.latinncap.com/_en/?pg=results_list

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Yg akan masuk ke Indonesia sebentar lagi versi sedan dari 207 Compact - crash testnya yah...kira2 aja sendiri :mrgreen:
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2010/10 ... .Tanah.Air

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Nah gini dong bahasannya menarik... :frm_tumbright:
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Ooo, gitu tho, ternyata FM ini penggemar Peugeot. Kalau saya malah gak tahu dan gak care begituan
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Hansen wrote:Nah gini dong bahasannya menarik... :frm_tumbright:
Ahhh...bagusan tret Tom&Jerry :e-snooty:
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Kayaknya 207 sedan ini mau mencoba bermain di segment-nya VW Vento / H. City / T. Vios yach ?

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asudarsono wrote:Ooo, gitu tho, ternyata FM ini penggemar Peugeot. Kalau saya malah gak tahu dan gak care begituan
Saya penggemar dunia otomotif. Situ emang gak tau apa2.
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Turboman wrote:Kayaknya 207 sedan ini mau mencoba bermain di segment-nya VW Vento / H. City / T. Vios yach ?
Iya nantinya bersaing dengan City/Vios.
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BADAK wrote:
Hansen wrote:Nah gini dong bahasannya menarik... :frm_tumbright:
Ahhh...bagusan tret Tom&Jerry :e-snooty:
Bagusan mana ama Tweety vs Sylvester kucing ?

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Intermezzo buat om FM :

Toyota Kirloskar Motor Limited (TKML), the Indian subsidiary of Japan’s Toyota Motor Corporation, which has increased its production capacity in the first plant to 80,000 units, up 10 per cent from 73,000 units, is planning to more than double its vehicle sales in India next year. This includes both passenger cars and utility vehicles in its stable.

TKIML, which is likely to close calendar year 2010 with total sales of 73,000 units, up from 51,400 units sold in 2009, a growth of 42 per cent, is looking to selling 150,000 units in 2011, mainly driven by sales of the Etios, a top company official said. Toyota aims to sell 70,000 units of Etios, both sedan and hatchback put together.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... 11/416807/

padahal India konsumen-nya terkenal kritis2 yah......ada sesuatu yg nggak sreg dikit lgs komplen.

*Berita selingan ajah, nggak bermaksud bikin tret panas lagi*

Buat rekan2 anti Toyota :
Oweh gak pro merek manapun, krn biasanya di suatu brand pasti ada bikin barang2 yg bagus dan ada juga yg kurang bagus. :mrgreen:
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om Turboman : :frm_tumbright: :frm_tumbleft:
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Di Eropa kan udah di test, dan hasil testnya 207 sedikit lebih bagus banding yaris.


Jadi kalau bilang 207 jelek banget hasil uji tabrakannya, ya yaris sedikit lebih parah lagi.



FortunerMan wrote:Jawabannya ya tidak bro, cuman facelift aja. Basically ini cara Peugeot bersaing harga dengan mobil Jepang/Korea/dll di negara2 berkembang. Model lama di facelift jual sbg model baru.
Ini Peugeot 207 Compact yg dapet crash test bintang satu itu http://www.latinncap.com/_en/?pg=results_list

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Yg akan masuk ke Indonesia sebentar lagi versi sedan dari 207 Compact - crash testnya yah...kira2 aja sendiri :mrgreen:
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2010/10 ... .Tanah.Air

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Huahahahahaha...masih nggak ngerti juga toyotaman? :mrgreen: Dipikir dulu... :mrgreen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_206
The car is sold under the "207 Compact" nameplate in Argentina, Mexico and Uruguay, in order to differentiate it from the European 207 CC and RC, which are also sold in those countries. Peugeot planned to name it "207 Brasil" in Brazil, but soon dropped the "Brasil" from the name, as this decision gained generally negative reactions from the media. The Brazilian 207 has also been criticized because it was perceived essentially as a facelifted 206, despite Peugeot's efforts to market it as an entirely new car and even selling it at a higher base price.
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Apa bedannya ama toyota ? Sama. Di luar negeri jual model yang hasil uji tabrakannya lebih layak, eh di Indonesia jual model kayak avanza yang hasil uji tabrakannya selevel mocin. Pantesan avanza di China sama sekali ngak laku, sampai daihatsu hengkang dari China !


Juga jual mobil kayak innova fortuner yang ngak berani jual di pasar yang ada lembaga uji tabrakan dan cuman berani nonggol di pasar seperti Indonesia yang kagak ada lembaga testing. Jangan jangan lebih parah kali banding Peugeot 207 / yaris !


Eh juga di Eropa di tendang juga, di Vietnam juga di tendang, di Amrik udah di depak sejak lama. Entah di mana lagi di tendang.


Mobil Korea aja di China, Eropa bisa berjaya, kok daihatsu kagak laku sama sekali ? Apakah karena keamanannya bobrok, tapi kan mobil China juga ada yang kurang bagus hasil testnya ?


Jangan jangan selain tidak aman, mutunya juga ambu radul banget. Selain ini, ngak ada alasan lain lagi kenapa daihatsu sangking sepinya sampai penjualan aja ngak nutup biaya operasi dan terpaksa hengkang dari Eropa, China, Vietnam, US dan entah di mana lagi.


Masa kalah ama mobil KOREA seperti Hyundai dan Kia ?!! Oh iya, ama mobcin aja KALAH tuh daihatsu / avanza.


Dulu sebelum di ambil alih toyota aja mendingan, eh sejak di beli toyota bukan makin bagus malah makin di tendang di mana mana.


Tapi pertanyaan paling penting adalah, jika di Indonesia daihatsu xenia di rebadge jadi toyota avanza, KOK di luar negeri tidak berani di rebadge jadi toyota avanza ? Udah mau mati aja di China tetap ngak berani di rebadge jadi toyota avanza.


Padahal pasar mobil China puluhan juta setahun, Indonesia cuman 500-600,000 setahun doang.


Ada yang tau kenapa ?


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asudarsono wrote:Udah coba telpon mereka? Menanyakan mengapa pasang foto 207 salah?
Standar banget...kalah argumen belaga gila dia. Tenang aja asudarsono, pembaca SM tau cara click sumber kok...

Nah mereka akan mikir...kok 207 hasil di Eropa dan Amerika Latin berbeda ya...apa karena manusia di Amerika Latin gak dianggep sehingga besinya asal2an aja? Itu harus diteliti lagi. Yg jelas hasil crash testnya udah jelas, Peugeot 207 1 star :mrgreen: Apa ini hasil downspec? Ya jelas iya...airbag tidak ada...reaksi body shell hancur lebur.

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Adult occupant: The rating for the vehicle was limited to 1 star due to the unacceptably high risk of life threatening injury to the driver's head presented by the steering wheel. The protection offered to the driver's lower legs was weak due to high rearward clutch and break pedal displacement. There were hazardous structures in the area of the fascia that could be impacted by an occupants knees. The body shell was not capable of withstanding further loading. The ruptures to the footwell threatened the driver's feet. The car has an airbag control tell-tale (light) in the instrument panel which will be illuminated after turning the ignition key and making contact. Unfortunately there were NO AIRBAGS in this car. The tell-tale may mislead consumers.
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