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baca nih,,, cuma avanza yg bisa begini dan toyota mendominasi dgn 4 mobilnya terlaris 2010
http://oto.detik.com/read/2011/01/12/15 ... laris-2010
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DigitALL wrote:
Ah sapa bilang, panther jg muat banyak, mesin irit, performa mesin bagus, minim perawatan, jaminan nama isuzu, bengkel pinggiran bisa semua, spare part murah & banyak KW nya, harga jual tinggi & gampang, pajak murah :big_smoking: :big_smoking: :big_smoking:[/quote]

Panther jg bagus, hampir memenuhi kriteria masyarakat Indonesia tapi sebagian besar orang kurang suka dgn getaran dan suara dieselnya.[/quote]

Dulu waktu jaman keluarnya Panther awal, kalo ga salah yg ver 2300cc, emang dibikin buat menghadang Kijang Super yang laris manis kayak kacang goreng, oom.. Satu2nya penghadang Panther yg bermesin diesel en berpenumpang, kalo ga salah cuma El-Sapek ya? CMIIW. Tapi El-Sapek ini kan non bonnet. Nah, kayaknya sasaran panther adlh orang2 yang udah bonnet car minded, tapi pengin yang uiriiiit ala diesel... Makanya cring-cring cring gitu iklannya.. Masalah berisik, saat itu pembandingnya cuman El-Sapek sama Truk :off_no:

Nah dieselnya Truk kan bener2 berrrgetttaaaaaarrrrr gitu...
Jadinya, pada milih panther. Lagipula, saat itu lagi jaya-jayanya karoseri di Indonesia, jadi konsumen bisa milih varian karoseri yang macem2 pula...

Kijang Super yang berkaroseri resmi Astra seperti Nusa Cendana Harum, Nasmoco dan Superior Coach jadi gonjang ganjing, karena udah dihantam karoseri nonAstra di Kijang Super, skrg dihadang pula dari Karoseri Panther. Karena desain karoseri Astra kan standar banget. Bedanya di emblem karoserinya.

Maka diluncurkanlah Kijang versi TOB yang mengharamkan dikaroseri (walaupun masih ada juga yang dikaroseri, seprti TOB model Jantan, Rover)

Konsumen lagi2 teralihkan dengan nondempul nya Kijang TOB yang dikaroseri NCH (Grand Extra), Nasmoco (Super) dan Superior Coach (Standard), sehg Panther lama2 agak terpinggirkan, sehg bunyi dieselnya yang heboh itu lama2 jadi berasa berisik, karena udah pada terbiasa dengan mesin Kijang TOB. Padahal sama aja. Walaupun diganti jadi 2500cc yg lebih halus, Kijang udah punya 1800cc tetep aja berasa lebih berisik.

Kok jadi OOT ke Panther?

Jadi, berisik itu juga jadi relatif, karena konsumen udah kebiasa lagi ama mesin bensinnya Kijang...

Sayang banggeeet, harga panther baru sekarang selangiiiittt... Jujur aja, aku naksir panther baru, tapi begitu tau harga Panther termurah aja hampir 200jeti :off_no: ......mundur teratur....drap drap drap...

Sekali lagi, CMIIW yaa... :big_peace:
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ak4ng wrote:baca nih,,, cuma avanza yg bisa begini dan toyota mendominasi dgn 4 mobilnya terlaris 2010
http://oto.detik.com/read/2011/01/12/15 ... laris-2010
Wah Dai Teroris kok bontot juga ea...? Pdhl akomodasi kursinya kan bs 7-8 penumpang...? Mobil mantan bosku , TS...
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Berikut top 10 produsen mobil dan truk nasional:


1. Toyota 280.680 unit
2. Daihatsu 118.591 unit
3. Mitsubishi 106.483 unit
4. Suzuki 71.210 unit
5. Honda 61.336 unit
6. Nissan 37.542 unit
7. Isuzu 24.012 unit
8. Hino 21.297 unit
9. Ford 8.871 unit
10. KIA 6.550 unit


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@VanzMatic: Untuk saat ini mmg banyak yg mengatakan hrg new panther kurang worthed, krn dgn teknologi jadul tp hrg jual nya mendekati diesel modern macam D4D. Tapi sebenernya kesederhanaan panther itu lah yg saat ini susah dicari. Panther hingga saat ini hrg seken nya msh ckp kuat walopun umur nya udah belasan taon. Hal ini bisa jd krn mmg mesin nya yg tergolong badak, mudah servis nya, dan bisa diservis di bengkel2 pinggiran. Hal yg berbeda bila dibandingkan innova D4D yg lbh canggih & tidak sembarang bengkel mampu menservis. Aku rasa kl innova sudah berumur setua panther blm tentu hrg nya bisa ttp kuat. Karena untuk biaya restorasi nya tentu jg butuh dana yg lbh besar drpd panther.
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om badak kenapa pilih phanter??????
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ak4ng wrote:om badak kenapa pilih phanter??????
Karena saya gak mampu beli Pajero, om :upss:
Saya pun beli panther jg yg seken om, krn dgn harga baru setinggi itu lebih baek saya ambil mbl lain yg lebih modern.
Rasanya banyak orang yg berpikiran sama seperti ini, makanya waktu cari panther seken dgn tahun muda saya sempat kesulitan jg krn pilihannya gak sebanyak innova / avanza.
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kayanya bole diganti judul "mengapa panther sulit digeser oleh kompetitor nya"..... atau " mengapa panther skrg jadi lebi gampang digeser oleh kompetitor nya ".... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
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BADAK wrote:
ak4ng wrote:om badak kenapa pilih phanter??????
Karena saya gak mampu beli Pajero, om :upss:
Saya pun beli panther jg yg seken om, krn dgn harga baru setinggi itu lebih baek saya ambil mbl lain yg lebih modern.
Rasanya banyak orang yg berpikiran sama seperti ini, makanya waktu cari panther seken dgn tahun muda saya sempat kesulitan jg krn pilihannya gak sebanyak innova / avanza.
kenapa ga avanza aja????????
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avanza mahal, ga mampu deh... avanza G M/T aja sekarang harga barunya Rp 151.550.000,00
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apansa dgn harga segitu bisa dapet janda ipah, gran lipina, atau panther taon muda.... jauhh lebi enak, nyaman, bertenaga, dan ber gengsi... :upss: :upss: :upss: :upss:
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dibanding ''kompetitornya" yg fwd,ac manual single pula, harganya 200 jt lebih, mending avanza lah
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Hargailah pilihan orang lain :big_peace:
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"mengapa pajero sport sulit digeser oleh kompetitornya"..... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
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DOHC wrote:"mengapa pajero sport sulit digeser oleh kompetitornya"..... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
Mungkin karena bobot 2 ton terlalu berat utk digeser chiong... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
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ngemeng2...untuk rute sama2 lukot dan dng kondisi panther pake biosolar vs avanza G pake premium....itu lbh iritan yg mana konsumsinya ??
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@ hamsiong : ane kirain si PS lupa turunin rem tangan nya....

@ bang rijal : ane masi pegang panther bang kalo utk dalkot... panther pasti lebi menang irit....
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ak4ng wrote:
BADAK wrote:
ak4ng wrote:om badak kenapa pilih phanter??????
Karena saya gak mampu beli Pajero, om :upss:
Saya pun beli panther jg yg seken om, krn dgn harga baru setinggi itu lebih baek saya ambil mbl lain yg lebih modern.
Rasanya banyak orang yg berpikiran sama seperti ini, makanya waktu cari panther seken dgn tahun muda saya sempat kesulitan jg krn pilihannya gak sebanyak innova / avanza.
kenapa ga avanza aja????????
Soalnya saya suka diesel. Lagian dr segi tampang lbh gagah panther drpd avanza.
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jalu wrote:ngemeng2...untuk rute sama2 lukot dan dng kondisi panther pake biosolar vs avanza G pake premium....itu lbh iritan yg mana konsumsinya ??
mirip2 sepertinya!! tapi kalo lukot di tol kayanya menang avanza deh akselerasinya!! dan ingat avanza gak ngebul
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@badak: gagah ko ngebul????
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ak4ng wrote:
jalu wrote:ngemeng2...untuk rute sama2 lukot dan dng kondisi panther pake biosolar vs avanza G pake premium....itu lbh iritan yg mana konsumsinya ??
mirip2 sepertinya!! tapi kalo lukot di tol kayanya menang avanza deh akselerasinya!! dan ingat avanza gak ngebul
mirip2 di rentang 1 berbanding berapa pak ??
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antara avanza vs phanter: kurang tau juga kayanya mirip2 1:13 -15an
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ak4ng wrote:@badak: gagah ko ngebul????
Panther saya gak ngebul pak. Ngebul itu kl saluran bahan bakarnya udah kotor.
Kalo akselerasi lukot bisa diadu deh panther yg turbo dgn avanza. Untuk akselerasi jarak pendek mungkin avanza lebih enak drpd panther, tp untuk akselerasi panjang kyk di jalan tol panther gak malu2in. Apalagi kalo turbo nya udah dimodifikasi biar selalu nge-boost trz :mrgreen:
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phanter max speed brp???
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