Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat - PART 02

[toyotaman]

http://www.insideline.com/daihatsu/daih ... china.html

avanza kalo ada di usa laku banget deh!!!!
avanza usdm

[bushkntl]

...Been around the world and found
That only stupid people are breeding
The cretins cloning and feeding....

[toyotaman]

http://www.mylexusisdefective.com/

[FortunerMan]

...Been around the world and found
That only stupid people are breeding
The cretins cloning and feeding....

Dari sithlord...cloning ke hawa2...ke toyotaman... betul sekali. Tapi Toyota tetap laku..bwahahahahaha. Livina aja gak bisa ngalahin Avanza...gimana tuh sithlord?

http://us.oto.detik.com/read/2010/12/14 ... ember-2010
Best Seller Indonesia November 2010
1. Toyota Avanza 11.269 unit
2. Daihatsu Xenia 7.207 unit
3. Toyota Kijang Innova 4.584 unit
4. Honda Jazz 2.096 unit
5. Suzuki APV 1.845 unit
6. Daihatsu Terios 1.750 unit
7. Nissan Grand Livina 1.673 unit
8. Honda CR-V 1.630 unit
9. Toyota Yaris 1.546 unit
10.Toyota Rush 1.485 unit

[toyotaman]

http://www.uc2.blogspot.com/

[FortunerMan]

ooo...gak ada jawabannya...jelasin dong toyotaman...kok sales Avanza hebat banget, Livina gak berkutik

[asudarsono]

Ooo, menurut Xenia wanabe ini, makin laris mobil makin bagus. Lalu kenapa lagi beli Camry ama Fortuner yg penjualannya jeblok. Berarti Fortunerman untuk beli Xenia aja udah top banget gak kejangkau ama dia.

[FortunerMan]

Xenia emang bagus...lebih bagus dr Peugeot lah...crash test cuman dapet 1 star ha ha ha...


PEUGEOT 207 (1 STAR)

Adult occupant: The rating for the vehicle was limited to 1 star due to the unacceptably high risk of life threatening injury to the driver's head presented by the steering wheel. The protection offered to the driver's lower legs was weak due to high rearward clutch and break pedal displacement. There were hazardous structures in the area of the fascia that could be impacted by an occupants knees. The body shell was not capable of withstanding further loading. The ruptures to the footwell threatened the driver's feet. The car has an airbag control tell-tale (light) in the instrument panel which will be illuminated after turning the ignition key and making contact. Unfortunately there were NO AIRBAGS in this car. The tell-tale may mislead consumers.

Cuman beda satu bintang sama

GEELY CK (NOL BESAR)

Adult occupant: The protection offered to the driver was poor for most body regions, the chest protection was weak. High loads were placed on all areas of the driver dummy. A significant amount of body shell collapse results in high displacement of the A-pillar, steering column and pedals. The body shell was not capable of withstanding any further loading. Installing an airbag in this car would not improve occupant protection as the body shell integrity is not good. Probably an airbags in this car would not improve the week body shell integrity. This car has a passenger airbag switch but it DOES NOT have an airbag. This device may mislead consumers to think that they have an airbag equipped car while it is not the case.

Sumber: http://www.latinncap.com/_en/?pg=results_list

[FortunerMan]

http://www.theautoindustrieblog.com/201 ... -cars.html

Toyota and Mazda are the most reliable cars - TUV Report 2011
TÃœVs (Technischer Ãœberwachungs-Verein), short for Technical Inspection Association in English, is a German quality and safety approval body. For ease of typing on a standard UK keyboard, I am ignoring the umlaut German vowels. In Germany, all registered vehicles must go through regular vehicle inspection to assess their road worthiness. Else the vehicle cannot be insured. It is not exactly similar to UK's MOT, or Singapore's LTA inspection, and certainly not like our Puspakom, in a sense that it is a lot more strict. It shares more similarity to Japan's Shaken inspection, which is probably among the most strict AND costly compulsory vehicle inspection. Depending on the vehicle age, German vehicle inspection intervals vary between 2 to 3 years. TUV, along with DEKRA are among the main bodies authorised by the German goverment to carry out vehicle inspections. It is so strict that minor rust spots are sufficient grounds to fail an inspection.

Each year, in partnership with Autobild, Germany's most influential automotive publication, TUV releases an annual TUV Report which shows results of average number of problems detected in any particular vehicle model of cars inspected by the body. It is by far one of the most reliable vehicle dependability data and is used as a main reference for German used car buyers.

MOST RELIABLE CARS



MOST UNRELIABLE CARS

[asudarsono]

Wih mobil toyota itu NCAP ama reliabilitynya kok bisa payah gitu ya?

[toyotaman]

http://www.theautoindustrieblog.com/201 ... -tops.html

[toyotaman]

http://www.petitiononline.com/TMC2003/petition.html

To: Toyota Motor Corporation

We, the undersigned petitioners, including former and current Toyota owners, do hereby give notice to Toyota Motor Corporation, that we are dissatisfied with the current customer service initiatives for owner complaints of engine oil sludge and associated secondary problems.


This includes the former "SPA" or "Special Policy Adjustment" (Feb. 2002) as well as the current "CSP" or "Customer Support Program" (April 2002) for "engine oil gelation." These initiatives do not restore the original warranty rights of the affected consumers who continue to be blamed for the problem by this company. In addition, these initiatives do nothing to help those who had to trade in their vehicles due to an inability to pay for exorbitant repairs within the warranty period. While model year vehicles prior to 1997 have had the same sludge problem, these owners are not helped by the current program.


Pointing the finger at the owners is unconscionable given that untold numbers of owners properly maintained their vehicles according to your recommended maintenance schedule. We, the "Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution" consumer group are not willing to accept blame for this very serious engine problem any longer! We would like a formal retraction of blame immediately.


A public statement by Toyota Motor Corporation is appropriate. We would also like a recall of the affected engines. If these engines cannot be fixed permanently, we would like this company to repurchase the affected vehicles once the problem is formally acknowledged. The owners must be compensated for the loss of resale value of their vehicles due to this condition. In addition, all incidental and collateral expenses must be covered. Nothing less would be fair to the affected owners!


Engine oil sludge development is unacceptable, especially in these late model vehicles. These engines are not the same after repair. Some owners with engine replacement have experienced a recurrent sludge condition. Lack of owner maintenance is not the cause of either the slow or sudden demise of these engines. Toyota owner engine analyses reveal adverse changes in the engine's oil condition even with less than 3,000 miles on the engine's oil. We, the owners, believe there is a mechanical problem which is contributing to premature wear of these engines.


Owners are very concerned about the safety of these vehicles. Some engines are seizing at highway speeds. There are owner reports of engine compartment fires after the engine throws a rod through the engine block. Engine failure is unpredictable. Some owners have lost all traces of engine oil suddenly. Some owners have noted excessive fuel in the engine's oil and/or glycol-contaminated engine oil. Owners have lost faith in their vehicles based on these occurrences.


Owners are also very concerned about the emissions control in these vehicles. Some owners' vehicles are not passing state emissions testing. Other owners note large volumes of smoke production on cold startup, while idling, and with acceleration. Oil analyses of some owners' engine oil reveal low viscosity and high nitration and oxidation within the manufacturer's recommended oil change interval. There are also high levels of silicon noted on engine oil analysis. Owners report oxygen sensor replacements. Others note replacement of catalytic converters, PCV valves, EGR valves, and other emissions control components. Some owners have had fuel injection problems prior to engine oil sludge development.


Here is what the networking owners have discovered to date:


1. Toyota has NOT notified all the affected owners about the "Customer Support Program" based on a random sample survey of "Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution" members and associates.


2. Toyota is not honoring the current "Customer Support Program" for all owners who present with engine oil sludge at Toyota dealerships. Some dealerships are not providing any information about the program until asked directly. Even then, owners report vague information.


3. Toyota is charging some owners for sludge inspections or labor when repairs are made for engine oil sludge. It is denying "Customer Support Program" coverage for repairs for other owners despite legitimate qualification for the program.


4. Some owners who purchased "Certified Used Toyotas" from dealerships have discovered engine oil sludge within one month of ownership. Some of these owners have been told that they do not qualify for repair coverage under the
"Customer Support Program" because the owners cannot produce the oil change receipts.


5. Before the introduction of the SPA or CSP, Toyota asked untold numbers of owners to pay over $5,000 for new engines. Since the introduction of the programs, engine replacements are not routinely done when Toyota pays for the repairs. Repeat sludge problems have been reported by owners.


6. The NHTSA and the EPA are not formally investigating the affected vehicles based in part on Toyota's promises to remedy the "engine oil gelation" situation via the CSP.


7. Toyota technicians/employees have refuted many of the complaint claims made by Toyota owners on the Internet over a two year+ period.


8. A computer virus originated from a Milwaukee Toyota dealership and spread throughout an owner list comprised of several hundred dissatisfied Toyota owners. The most vocal Toyota owners have experienced a myriad of computer problems since speaking out about this problem.


9. Toyota executives and/or spokespersons have continued to publicly claim that there are only a "few vocal owners" in this matter. These executives state that they are "not aware of engine sludge in cases where owners have properly maintained their vehicles." These same representatives say that there are very few cases of engine oil sludge in the affected engines. They base their claim on another claim that only 3,200 owners have formally written to the company to notify it about their problem.


We, the undersigned are shocked and appalled by the actions of Toyota Motor Corporation. We expected more from our Toyota vehicles given the daily advertisements describing these vehicles as the "platinum standard" in quality and reliability. We want what we paid for...a safe, reliable vehicle that holds its value over time. We don't think this is asking too much! We want Toyota to do the right thing!


Sincerely,

[BADAK]

Hiiiii...tak jual aja ah innova ku .......

[toyotaman]

http://www.jato.com/PressReleases/Regis ... 5.2007.pdf


PEUGEOT 207 TAKES THE LEAD AS EUROPE’S BEST SELLING CAR


JATO Dynamics analysis of registration data for EU and EFTA markets
reveals:

Peugeot 207 takes the lead as Europe’s best selling car
Volkswagen still in pole position as Europe’s best selling car brand
Germany records highest new car sales across Europe

[toyotaman]

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/peugeot_207_2006/251.aspx

Peugeot 207 Rating Score

ADULT OCCUPANT 35

Front: 14.8
Side: 15
Seatbelt reminder: 3
Pole: 2

CHILD OCCUPANT 37
PEDESTRIAN 19

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/toyota_ya ... 5/246.aspx

Toyota Yaris Rating Score

ADULT OCCUPANT 35

Front: 15.2
Side: 16
Seatbelt reminder: 2
Pole: 2

CHILD OCCUPANT 34
PEDESTRIAN 18

[toyotaman]

http://www.justgoodcars.com/181/article ... world.html

There are thousands of models of cars from various companies throughout the world. There are major car companies from the United States, Germany, South Korea and Japan among many other countries around the world. But what are the best selling cars of all time from around the world? You will find out the answer here!


Number 10. The tenth best selling car of all time from around the world is the Peugeot 205 which sold 5,278,050 units between the years 1983 to 1998.


Number 9. The ninth best selling car of all time from around the world is the Mini which sold 5,387,862 units from 1959 until 2000.


Number 8. The eighth best selling car of all time from around the world is the Renault 5 Mk1 which sold 5,471,701 units from 1973 until 1985.


Number 7. The seventh best selling car of all time from around the world is the Volkswagen Golf Mk2 which sold 6,300, 987 units from 1983 until 1992.


Number 6. The sixth best selling car of all time from around the world is the Volkswagen Mk1 which sold 6,842,000 units from 1974 to the present.


Number 5. The fifth best selling car of all time from around the world is the Renault 4 which sold 8,135,422 units from 1961 until 1992.


Number 4. The forth best selling car of all time from around the world is the Fiat Uno which sold 8,500,000 units from 1983 to the present.


Number 3. The third best selling car of all time from around the world is the Ford Model T which sold 15,007,033 units from 1908 until 1927.


Number 2. The second best selling car of all time from around the world is the Fiat 124 / Lada which sold 15,255,000 units from 1966 to the present.


Number 1. And the best selling car of all time from around the world is the Volkswagen Beetle which sold 21,529,464 units from 1939 until 2003.


France's automobile companies Peugeot Citroen and Renault come in three times on the list of the best selling cars in the world while Italy's Fiats come in highly on the world's best selling cars list at number four and at number two. Volkswagen is the obvious favorite in the world since it was cited multiple times on this world's best selling coming in at number six and number seven with the sister Volkswagen golf cars and in at number one with the Volkswagen beetle.


The Volkswagen Beetle is a car that has fascinated people from generation to generation. There are not many cars around the world that were started to be produced in the thirties and have lasted all the way until the year 2003. It is very amazing.

[Risol1]

kbeneran sy lg browsing nya dr hape, jd rada susah buka2 yutub
tp kok bsa hanya gara2 jalur oli yg kurang rapi (misalkan), trus bsa merubah oli menjadi sludge???
ga mudeng nih beneran.............

kalo kata riset2 individual (engga diendorsed sama toyota), gampang sludge karena 2 hal:
1. maintenance yg jelek (ganti oli/filter telat, pemakaian oli yg engga sesuai spek, oli sering kurang/seal2 rembes didiemin aja, dll)
2. memang disain jeroan mesin 1MZFE (3000cc) dan 5SFE (2200cc) yg lebih gampang sludge (mungkin kalo dibandingin sama mobil2 lain) kalo kondisi2 #1 diatas exist. Mungkin desain mesin2 merek lain lebih tahan sludge kali walaupun pemakainya "jorok".

Dan ini memang udah terkenal dari dulu, bukan berita baru......

Tapi asalkan kita maintenancenya bener, kemungkinan besar sih engga bakal sludge. Ane dulu pake camry '99 yg 2.2l sampe hampir 170ribu miles, jangankan turun mesin karena sludge, ganti satu part slow moving pun belum pernah sampe tu mobil dijual. Tapi jg katanya yg 1MZ lebih cepet sludge nya daripada yg 2.2l.

[maskopat]

emangnya disain seperti apa yang gampang nge-sludge?
ane seumur2 miara mobil lebih dari 15 tahun, sudah lebih dari 200rb km, pas overhaul, bukan karena sludge.. lebih karena silinder baret dan saluran water cooler berkarat.. maklum ane kebiasaan pake air selokan untuk ngisi radiator...

[doq]

@risol: hoooo ic ic
yah, jd mau design nya sejelek gimana, selama maintenance benar tentunya sludge ga bakal ada donk yah cmiiw...........
makanya sy lbh ngeliat nya sbg mis-maintenance aja

[asudarsono]

Jadi maintenancenya harus gimana biar tidak terjadi sludge di mesin2 itu? Harusnya dari pabrikan Toyota memberitahu langkah apa yg hrs dilaksanakan. Apakah harus ganti oli tiap 1000 km, pakai additif atau apa?

Akhirnya saya berkesimpulan, kalau ada masalah di kendaraan Toyota, gak pernah ada solusinya. Coba deh, boleh disearch ditret2 lama maupun baru..... Padahal ini mobil menurut saya tidak rumit2 sekali.

[BADAK]

emangnya disain seperti apa yang gampang nge-sludge?
ane seumur2 miara mobil lebih dari 15 tahun, sudah lebih dari 200rb km, pas overhaul, bukan karena sludge.. lebih karena silinder baret dan saluran water cooler berkarat.. maklum ane kebiasaan pake air selokan untuk ngisi radiator...

Justru kl air radiator diisi pake air selokan itu malah awet om, soalnya karatnya dimakan ikan2 cebong......................

[doq]

trus kecebongnya????
jd swike micro dunk

[BADAK]

trus kecebongnya????
jd swike micro dunk

BTT plzz.... Ini tret toyotaman, bukan tret makanan

[FortunerMan]

Kok info si toyotaman tua2 banget sih...ini terbaru lho... 2011

http://www.theautoindustrieblog.com/201 ... -cars.html

Toyota and Mazda are the most reliable cars - TUV Report 2011
TÃœVs (Technischer Ãœberwachungs-Verein), short for Technical Inspection Association in English, is a German quality and safety approval body. For ease of typing on a standard UK keyboard, I am ignoring the umlaut German vowels. In Germany, all registered vehicles must go through regular vehicle inspection to assess their road worthiness. Else the vehicle cannot be insured. It is not exactly similar to UK's MOT, or Singapore's LTA inspection, and certainly not like our Puspakom, in a sense that it is a lot more strict. It shares more similarity to Japan's Shaken inspection, which is probably among the most strict AND costly compulsory vehicle inspection. Depending on the vehicle age, German vehicle inspection intervals vary between 2 to 3 years. TUV, along with DEKRA are among the main bodies authorised by the German goverment to carry out vehicle inspections. It is so strict that minor rust spots are sufficient grounds to fail an inspection.

Each year, in partnership with Autobild, Germany's most influential automotive publication, TUV releases an annual TUV Report which shows results of average number of problems detected in any particular vehicle model of cars inspected by the body. It is by far one of the most reliable vehicle dependability data and is used as a main reference for German used car buyers.

MOST RELIABLE CARS



MOST UNRELIABLE CARS

[FortunerMan]

kalo kata riset2 individual (engga diendorsed sama toyota), gampang sludge karena 2 hal:
1. maintenance yg jelek (ganti oli/filter telat, pemakaian oli yg engga sesuai spek, oli sering kurang/seal2 rembes didiemin aja, dll)
2. memang disain jeroan mesin 1MZFE (3000cc) dan 5SFE (2200cc) yg lebih gampang sludge (mungkin kalo dibandingin sama mobil2 lain) kalo kondisi2 #1 diatas exist. Mungkin desain mesin2 merek lain lebih tahan sludge kali walaupun pemakainya "jorok".

Dan ini memang udah terkenal dari dulu, bukan berita baru......

Tapi asalkan kita maintenancenya bener, kemungkinan besar sih engga bakal sludge. Ane dulu pake camry '99 yg 2.2l sampe hampir 170ribu miles, jangankan turun mesin karena sludge, ganti satu part slow moving pun belum pernah sampe tu mobil dijual. Tapi jg katanya yg 1MZ lebih cepet sludge nya daripada yg 2.2l.

Emang si sithlord/toyotaman ulang2 berita lama melulu - buat nutup2in Livina gak bisa ngalahin penjualan Innova...apalagi Avanza panes bgt tuh dia, udah koar2 sampe kapalan jarinya...masih aja Avanza laku hihihihihihi...