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Pak FM pernah ga kepikiran
daripada sensornya sering ngebaca yg aneh2
bisa ga dengan cara gini:
1. tu sensor sekalian dimatikan/dipindahkan saja
2. ecu nya di akalin biar ga usah ngebaca beberapa sensor yg terlalu ribet

?
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Gak selalu sih sensornya aneh2 - di forum kan tempat orang berkeluh kesah, jadi kesannya ini mobil ribet banget. Nggak kok, ini mobil cukup reliable - not great, tapi gak selalu merongrong. Kalo rewel mau rontok mana mungkin bini ane mau bawa sehari hari kerja, main2, dll :mrgreen: Ini mobil memang kurang disesuaikan dengan kondisi Indonesia (Jakarta khususnya), air intakenya di bawah bo (malah gak keliatan dari atas)...jadi jangan coba2 lewatin banjir/genangan, tapi so far di km lumayan tinggi (108 ribu) belum pernah overheat - udah 2 thn coolant level anteng aja gak perlu diisi isi, busi masih asli dari baru (dibukunya bilang 120 ribu km baru ganti busi).

Serem mainin kinerja sensor begitu - karena mungkin memang ada something wrong trus kita jadi gak tau - malah rusak total. Tidak cukup banyak pengalaman montir yg tau side effect mematikan sensor ini itu - lain kalo populasi banyak seperti Innova misalnya - montir banyak tau, ooo...ini bisa diakalin begini begini, manfaatnya ini ini...resikonya ini ini. Sayangnya ane gak tinggal di UK haha...
In November 2007, the BBC reported Sheffield University survey data as showing that 40% of UK families owned two cars, and one was 'likely to be a Focus'. In 2008, the Focus matched the Cortina's 27-year-old record as Britain's best selling new car for 10 successive years, but its dominance was ended in 2009 when it was edged into second place by the smaller Fiesta
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betul jg ya pak, takutnya montirnya sini yg setengah ahli, modif ini itu malah jadi fatal

maklum lagi kepikiran ambil focus tdci
kangen sama dasyatnya torsi diesel, tapi punya handling semantap german car, apalagi kalo bukan focus?

tapi dipikir lagi modifikasi yg berguna untuk perawatan diesel malah takutnya berakibat fatal pada ecu ford
cth ganti downpipe, turbo timer
pengen denger pengalaman orang yg udah pake, tapi kok kayaknya ga ada :mrgreen:

pak FM ada modif lampu HID, audio? ada kesulitan ga?
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Standar abis bro punya ane...pikir2 mobil gw kok standar semua ya :mrgreen:

He he...iya sensornya dimana mana, agak serem kalo mau macem2in mesin. Mau rubah ke Pertamax aja gak bisa kata si montir2 GardenSpeed.

Memang satu2nya pilihan skrg ya Focus Tdci. Tapi kan BMW tuh pada ngeluarin diesel di Indonesia - kayanya kalo di Jakarta udah bisa punya modern diesel. Peugeot Hdi juga udah ada - btw, ini mesin kerjasama dengan PSA, jadi yang dipake di Peugeot 308 ya mesin ini juga - coba tanya ke bengkel Peugeot, bermasalah gak tuh mesin HDi nya di Indonesia.

Biar tambah ngiler :mrgreen:

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engine bay nya rapiiii :)
itu interior tdci punya? ada usb, aux in ga?

BMW? males ah, harganya 2x lipat :(

pak FM, Pug 307 diesel jadul maksudnya mungkin ya pak?
coba ah googling reliability enginenya

trims ya pak
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Sepertinya sama/mirip mesin 307/308 HDi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_EW/DW_engine#DW10
DW10
The 2.0 L DW10 was the first PSA Diesel engine to feature common rail direct injection, and was given the commercial designation HDi. It has a bore of 85 mm (3.3 in) and a stroke of 88 mm (3.5 in) for a total displacement of 1997 cc, replacing the XUD9 in 1999. It was initially available in 90 PS (66 kW) form, with two valves per cylinder and a non-intercooled turbo. An intercooler was added later in the year, boosting power to 107 PS (79 kW).

Initially available in the midsized models, such as the Citroën Xsara and Xantia and Peugeot 306 and 406, it was soon spread across the PSA range, such as the LCVs, while a 16-valve version, with 109 PS (80 kW), was used in the large MPVs built in association with Fiat. Suzuki was a customer of these powerplants, using them in the European Vitara and Grand Vitara.

The DW10 was used as the basis for the new family of Diesel engines co-developed with Ford, and it is used in the Focus, C-Max and Volvo C30/S40/V50, besides various Citroën and Peugeot passenger models. The DOHC 16-valve powerplants were mated to a second generation common rail injection system and a variable geometry turbocharger, pushing power to 136 PS (134 hp/100 kW). It is fitted with a six-speed manual transmission or six-speed automatic transmission (from summer 2006 onwards).
Diesel PSA reputasinya cukup baik di Eropa, kalo di Indonesia gak tau.

Nih puas2in deh bacanya http://paultan.org/2010/02/02/ford-focu ... est-drive/
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wah kalo liat sejarahnya
ini sih mesin hebat yg sudah malang melintang dimana2 ya

hmmm :D
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Mau ikutan mejeng focus kesayangan....udah ganti mounting engine, shock breaker depan, air filter juga pake JFC. Ada rencana mau jokul juga sih soalnya dapet jatah mobil baru dr kantor. Siapa tau ada yg tertarik.... :big_peace:
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googling dapet hasil ini :
focus diesel modif KD air filter & Unichip Dastek Q
ONLY

hasilnya
197 Bhp & 377 Nm
edun, serem banget ni mesin




http://www.modifikasi.com/showthread.php?t=185215
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Ya udah lah bro - hajar :mrgreen: Biar makin rame pemakai Focus di SM
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hehe
keputusan final ntar akhir januari, ada beberapa pertimbangan lagi soalnya :)

lagipula focus ini ane masih mau survey beberapa parts lagi, maklum mobil langka,
mesti agak hati2 :D
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hi Semua,

Leboh baik beli yang mana nih, Fiesta Sport 1.6 atau Focus 1.8 hatchback. Fiesta positifnya sudah DSG tapi rear seat minim. Focus punya kabin lebih besar, tapi tanpa DSG dan dari isi thread ini juga sepertinya suspensinya terlalu lemah untuk jalanan Indonesia.

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Ford Focus diesel juga udah dual clutch...yg bensin memang masih 4-speed + manual mode.

Soal mendingan mana - ya tergantung bos sendiri dong :D
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Abis sirvey ke dealer
Filter solar 287rb, mahal jg ya
Purging di beres ford tidak ada
Yg paling aneh, kok kata montirnya focus diesel tdk ada catalyticnya
Tp diganti dengan alat ..... (lupa namanya) yg fungsinya bisa buat gas buang bersih, tapi tidak ada resiko mampet. Ini alat apaan ada yg tau? Kok saya agak ragu...
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wew, filternya mahal juga tuh kalo harus ganti tiap 5000km :D tapi-kan dikompensasi dengan fun to drive-nya gakpapa lah boss. torsi melimpah...palagi ditambah piggyback tuh. sadisss

purging dibengkel laen aja, toh lebih murah pastinya :p

jangan lupa, wiper-nya gak mahal kok. dulu kan kudu beli OEM punya yg hampir 1jtan. sekarang sih amannnn :big_weee:
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iya pak, ini memang lagi mempelajari perawatan focus diesel
kira2 ada tips dan masukan apa lagi ya?

ada pengalaman sama focus tdci ini ga?
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wah saya sih ngga tau soal TDCi :shrug:, baru liat doang. ehehehe :big_peace:
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ane survey ke beberapa dealer
ternyata ini bener2 mobil langka
so far cuman nemu 2 dealer aja yg ready stock
dan semua warna item

dan... kalo mau warna laen harus inden 2bulan (impor dulu) + dp 50%
buset....

apakah focus diesel ini bener2 mobil yg langka?
ane jadi cemas, jangan2 ntar susah cari spare partnya.....

ada yg punya pengalaman punya mobil langka?....

takut utk long termnya ane dapet trouble

btw, FMI ini bagus ga service, pelayanan dllnya?
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Yah yg bensin juga langka bro...yg diesel lebih langka lagi :mrgreen: Gak enaknya punya barang langka gak ada yg bisa diajak konsultasi/ngerumpi selain be-res. Baca forum luar negeri juga bisa - cuman kondisi di daratnya suka berbeda. Misalnya baca forum di Inggris (dimana Focus mobil sejuta umatnya)...enak aja mereka ngasi solusi...beli parts murah di ini or itu.com, kitanya manyun aja.
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hehe, selama ini cuman bro FM & Brekedelan yg bisa saling curhat
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Yah begitulah. Ntar kalo situ beli yg diesel selamat bercuap2 sendiri brekedelan ama I dengerin aja :mrgreen:
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hihihihi..... :mrgreen:
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setelah cari info sana sini
katanya tu focus diesel turbo pressurenya mencapai 1700psi lebih
ini berarti lebih tinggi daripada captiva (kalo ga salah 1600psi)

dan spek di brosurnya tertulis bisa minum solar B5 (ini berarti bio solar / solar subsidi ?? )

any comment ... ???
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B5 = 5% biosolar dan sisanya solar biasa...hmm

mosok sih bisa pake biosolar? itu mesin kan diesel commonrail alias canggih. pasti mintanya Dex atau sekelasnya.
mungkin ini cuma akal2an FMI aja, seperti Fiesta...di brosurnya ditulis RON 88. bisa sih bisa, tapi ya gitu...powerloss dan ngelitik.

mungkin sama bro, ditulis bisa B5 biar menarik konsumen. hehe, kalo mau pake B5 ya berarti powerloss dan rajin2 ganti filter. hihi
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iya sepertinya seperti itu
pemakaian solar B5 itu kayaknya spek "seminim minimnya"

tadi jg udah tanya2 lagi
ada sales (dari dealer yg focus diesel ready stok) bilang garansi tetep berlaku asal solarnya P.Jawa yg relatif cukup baik

dari dealer berbeda (ga ready stok) ada sales yg bilang harus dex atau garansi hilang

kalo memang harus dex terus2an mana bisa.., pom yg sedia aja sungguh langka