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bagi yang bisa ngebantu,,,hondamatic (civic) untuk generasi pertama transmisi otomatisnya katanya ga pake planetary gear tapi countershaft,,ad yg bisa ngebantu jelasin prinsip kerjanya dan transmisi otomatis hondamatic civic 1976,,buat laporan tugas akhir gw,,,ngeblank ne,,thanks :ungg:
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De_Timbul13 wrote:bagi yang bisa ngebantu,,,hondamatic (civic) untuk generasi pertama transmisi otomatisnya katanya ga pake planetary gear tapi countershaft,,ad yg bisa ngebantu jelasin prinsip kerjanya dan transmisi otomatis hondamatic civic 1976,,buat laporan tugas akhir gw,,,ngeblank ne,,thanks :ungg:
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hondacivic matic gen 1 tetntang transmisi otomatisnya,,,di link Honda penjelasanya saya belum paham,,thanks :big_peace: :big_peace:
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waduh ane juga gak faham tuh. coba cari di wikipedia atau download service manualnya..... yang lain mana neh komennya...
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Apa ya? Countershaft bukannya buat menghilangkan getaran di crankshaft?

Sebentar aku pelajarin dulu.

Dulu di perpustakaan LIPI Gatot Subroto ada buku bagus macam ensiklopedi tentang transmisi otomatis .... tapi masih ada nggak ya? Aku bacanya udah 10 tahun yang lalu.
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[quote="Dino_lowrider"]waduh ane juga gak faham tuh. coba cari di wikipedia atau download service manualnya..... yang lain mana neh komennya...[/quote]

di wikipedia penjelasanya umum,,trus ne nyari service manualnya menurut gw susah,dan belum dapet soale tahun lama kali,,tlong yg bisa ngebantu,,ne tugas akhir gw,,thanks bro uda d bantu Qoute :thanks:
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asudarsono wrote:Apa ya? Countershaft bukannya buat menghilangkan getaran di crankshaft?

Sebentar aku pelajarin dulu.

Dulu di perpustakaan LIPI Gatot Subroto ada buku bagus macam ensiklopedi tentang transmisi otomatis .... tapi masih ada nggak ya? Aku bacanya udah 10 tahun yang lalu.

soalnya klo transmisi hondamatic civic dia ga pake planetary gear melainkan mainshaft ama countershaft tapi prinsip kerjanya ane belum tau,,thanks uda dbantu Quote,,yg lain tolong bantuanya :off_good_job:
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Hondamatic aslinya bukan transmisi otomatis sebenernya, pertama; karena nggak ada auto shift untuk perpindahan gigi pada transmisi jenis ini, harus manual perpindahan giginya, meskipun giginya cuma dua (jangan nyanyi burung kakaktua ya.. :upss: )
kedua; sistemnya sederhana , inovasinya dibanding mesin manualnya adalah adanya torque converter yang di attached ke 2-speed gear box. countershaft kemudian diletakkan di bagian depan torque convertor sebagai poros dan penyeimbang getaran transmisi mesin,

nah yang dibingungkan TS adalah kenapa pakai countershaft ya?.... :e-think:
Countershaft (cs) pertama kali di aplikasikan di automatic transmission adalah karena dengan cs ukuran ruang mesin bisa lebih kecil, dan kompak. Honda pada masa itu merupakan produsen yang paling concern dan inovatif di kekompakan mesin, hingga pada akhirnya hondamatic ini juga digunakan di motorbike. :off_good_job:

Cs di mount di torque converter, disertai penggunaan multiplate clutch yang menggantikan clutch conventional. Aliran oli adalah dari shaft->mc.
Skemanya kalau nggak salah, countershaft->torque converter->1st gear. Lalu pada 2nd gear ada 1 shaft lagi yang bagian ujungnya menyambung dengan countershaft.

Kekurangannya adalah: nggak bisa dilakukan perpindahan gigi saat torsi tinggi, karena transmisi menjadi tidak stabil. Pada kecepatan tinggi transmisi mengalami banyak getaran.

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Empat jempol buat AD74YA, emang SM benar2 tempat kumpulnya pakar otomotif
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matur nuhun bang

klo ad yg punya file2 tentang prinsip kerja transmisi otomatis hondamatic atau link bisa di Quote jg.
soalnya gini ane lg garap tugas akhir ane yaitu media pembelajaran cutaway transmisi otomatis honda civic matic tahun nya klo ga salah 1976 ( generasi pertama ) krn ane cuman dapet tuh transmisi bekas mana ga ad no serimesinnya,,cc nya jg ga tau,,bingung jadinya,,ane muter2 ke dealer honda buat nyari manualnya ga ad coz uda tahun lama katanya jadi ga nyimpen,,nambah berabe kan mana ntu teori buat nyusun laporanya,, :off_good_job:


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ane pendatang baru masih amatir gabung di forum2 bgini,,thanks semua atas bantuanya :big_peace:
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De_Timbul13 wrote:matur nuhun bang

klo ad yg punya file2 tentang prinsip kerja transmisi otomatis hondamatic atau link bisa di Quote jg.
soalnya gini ane lg garap tugas akhir ane yaitu media pembelajaran cutaway transmisi otomatis honda civic matic tahun nya klo ga salah 1976 ( generasi pertama ) krn ane cuman dapet tuh transmisi bekas mana ga ad no serimesinnya,,cc nya jg ga tau,,bingung jadinya,,ane muter2 ke dealer honda buat nyari manualnya ga ad coz uda tahun lama katanya jadi ga nyimpen,,nambah berabe kan mana ntu teori buat nyusun laporanya,, :off_good_job:


buat nambah file image nya bgaimana ne di comment nya coz ane mo nambahin gambar proyek akhir ane kaya comment nya bang AD74YA
ane pendatang baru masih amatir gabung di forum2 bgini,,thanks semua atas bantuanya :big_peace:
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asudarsono wrote:Empat jempol buat AD74YA, emang SM benar2 tempat kumpulnya pakar otomotif
yang pakar ya kayak pakde sudar itu.. saya cuman numpang liwat wakaka :big_weee:
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De_Timbul13 wrote:matur nuhun bang

klo ad yg punya file2 tentang prinsip kerja transmisi otomatis hondamatic atau link bisa di Quote jg.
soalnya gini ane lg garap tugas akhir ane yaitu media pembelajaran cutaway transmisi otomatis honda civic matic tahun nya klo ga salah 1976 ( generasi pertama ) krn ane cuman dapet tuh transmisi bekas mana ga ad no serimesinnya,,cc nya jg ga tau,,bingung jadinya,,ane muter2 ke dealer honda buat nyari manualnya ga ad coz uda tahun lama katanya jadi ga nyimpen,,nambah berabe kan mana ntu teori buat nyusun laporanya,, :off_good_job:


buat nambah file image nya bgaimana ne di comment nya coz ane mo nambahin gambar proyek akhir ane kaya comment nya bang AD74YA
ane pendatang baru masih amatir gabung di forum2 bgini,,thanks semua atas bantuanya :big_peace:
Maksudnya nambain file image gimana? cara ngetach gambar di tret ini?..

ini ada tambahan lain countershaft nempel ke torque converter:
hmt-cg-illustration.jpg
Kalau referensi coba cari buku Automotive Transmissions: Fundamentals karangan Harald Naunheimer, sudah ada terjemahannya, cukup lengkap bukunya.. punya saya entah dipinjam siapa terus gak balik2.. :e-wall:

Tapi yang bahas Hondamatic kayaknya cuma sekilas deh, di bagian sejarahnya.. tapi lumayan lah..

Oya,selain honda, porsche juga buat transmisi gini.. namanya Countershaft Automatic Transmission dengan dual clutch, atau bahasa aliennya: Das Porsche-Doppelkupplungs-(PDK)-Getriebe

Teorinya sama, mungkin bisa anda coba search..

Kalo boleh tau dari perguruan tinggi mana mas?
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ternyata mas adjay pakar girbok matic.......... :e-clap: :e-clap:

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yaelah pak... pernah baca doang dikit2... belon pakar pak... :big_slap:
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AD74YA wrote:yaelah pak... pernah baca doang dikit2... belon pakar pak... :big_slap:
untuk mas adjay ya gak usah baca banyak2..........lha wong udah pakar.... :frm_tumbright:
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ini kelapa muda mau di sate kali ya?... dibilangin belon pakar :snipersmile:
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eeh....ente mau coba2 helmnya diadu sama batok kelapa ya....?? :big_weee: :big_weee:
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AD74YA wrote:yaelah pak... pernah baca doang dikit2... belon pakar pak... :big_slap:

trima kasih,,
untuk bukunya bisa di download atau mesti beli buku nya,,?
saya saat ini kuliah di Teknik Otomotif UNY
sudah 2 tahun saya mengerjakan proyek ini,,hmm,,*tertunduk lesu dan malu* :ungg:
ya cara atachment foto,,soalnya saya pengin aj liatin tuuh proyek akhir nya biar ad gambaran sedikit tentang tugas akhir saya
,,masih ditunggu masukan dari abang2 mechanic yg laen
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saya uda selesai barangnya bang,,uda test drive,,uda bongkar pasang juga,,tapi ntu tanpa panduan manual book nya,,jadi asal bongkar kemudian ane cutting covernya,,tanpa ane ga tahu nama komponen dalemnya,,yang ane kira planetary gear ternyata bukan planetary,,karena katanya di hondamatic ga pake planetary gear,,bener ga seh??
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De_Timbul13 wrote:
AD74YA wrote:yaelah pak... pernah baca doang dikit2... belon pakar pak... :big_slap:

trima kasih,,
untuk bukunya bisa di download atau mesti beli buku nya,,?
saya saat ini kuliah di Teknik Otomotif UNY
sudah 2 tahun saya mengerjakan proyek ini,,hmm,,*tertunduk lesu dan malu* :ungg:
ya cara atachment foto,,soalnya saya pengin aj liatin tuuh proyek akhir nya biar ad gambaran sedikit tentang tugas akhir saya
,,masih ditunggu masukan dari abang2 mechanic yg laen
Kayaknya beli deh.. kalau di bandung ada di palasari... saya beli disitu.. itupun gak sengaja nemu.. hehehe.. buat tugas juga sih beli buku itu..

Caranya di bawah box "post a reply" setelah memencet button "post reply" ada ko9tak "Upload attachment"

pencet choose file, lalu pilih deh gambarnya.. :mrgreen:
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klo ada yang penah liat model tuh transmisi matic boleh dah kasih tau no serinya,,mesinnya,,tahun nya,,cc nya jg,,everything lah,,thank you banget klo ad yg bisa ngebantu :off_sleep:
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up up up...

mantap kerjaannya bang... saya sendiri malah belum pernah lihat yang sebersih dan seutuh itu hehehhe
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