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Toyota nggak lulus NCAP?

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Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.

Beberapa sampling mobil yg dijual di Indonesia. NCAP method 2005-2009. Adult passenger - Child passenger - Pedestrian.
Mercy C .....36-32-11
Pug 308 ......35-39-19
Accord .......35-39-19
BMW 3xx .....35-39-4
Pug 207 ......35-37-19
Yaris ..........35-34-18
Volvo S-40 ..34-40-18
Corolla ........34-39-23
Volvo C-30 ..34-38-9
Mercy M .....34-34-6
CRV ...........33-39-24
Lexus IS .....33-39-15
Civic ..........32-39-24
Swift .........30-27-20
BMW 5xx ....29-42-2
Sirrion .......29-35-15
SX-4 ........29-30-22
KIA RIO .....29-34-13
Terrios ......28-31-19
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ini judul thread toyota tidak lulus NCAP?
tapi yg dibahas fortuner.
apa ga hiperbola nih om?
:big_peace:
lalu nilai NCAP fortuner sendiri brp ya?
bs tau ga brp limit terendahnya utk msg2 kategori?
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asudarsono wrote:Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.
Siapa om yg bilang Toyota punya NCAP rendah sekali, dan gak ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah? Coba di paste omongannya :mrgreen:

Kok gak ada NCAP nya Pajero Sport, Everest, Fortuner? Nggak lengkap nih...cari lagi ya yg lengkap.
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Mohon maaf lho, saya belum nemu yg E-NCAPnya di bawah Terrios. Nanti kalau nemu saya beritahu deh.

Banyak mobil yang saya tidak masukkan karena tesnya masih model lama (belum menghitung child protection). Mobil yg saya abaikan adalah Camry, E-class, Lancer, Pajero, Serena, Volvo S-60 dan XC-90.

Subaru tidak saya masukkan karena semua menggunakan metode tes E-NCAP baru yg bukan pakai skor tapi pakai prosesntase.

NB : Pajero Sport, Everest, Fortuner belum dites jadi emang nggak lengkap.
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silverlining wrote:ini judul thread toyota tidak lulus NCAP?
tapi yg dibahas fortuner.
apa ga hiperbola nih om?
:big_peace:

Hi hi hi...namanya aja org obsesi, semua udah hiperbola di kepalanya. Kasian forum SM jadi hancur gara2 org sirik.
asudarsono wrote:Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.
Siapa om yg bilang Toyota punya NCAP rendah sekali, dan gak ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah? Coba di paste omongannya :mrgreen:
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Lhaaa, katanya minta didaftar. Kita daftarlah apa adanya.

Kapan nih Fortuner ama Innopah dites. Pasti hasilnya memuaskan
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Nih ada juara baru :

VW Golf .... 36-41-22
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asudarsono wrote:Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.
Siapa om yg bilang Toyota punya NCAP rendah sekali, dan gak ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah? Coba di paste omongannya :mrgreen:
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Terus siapa donk yang ngomong kalau Avanza punya nilai NCAP serendah KIA Rio. Ternyata ada khan yang lebih rendah dari KIA Rio yaitu Daihatsu Terrios.

Heran, punya mobil dengan NCAP rendah kok bangga. Ini NCAP dik, bukan handicap golf.

Justru saya yang nggak sependapat dgn kalian2 yg bilang Toyota paling butut. Nyatanya masih lebih baik dari Daihatsu tuh.
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asudarsono wrote:Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.
Siapa om yg bilang Toyota punya NCAP rendah sekali, dan gak ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah? Coba di paste omongannya :mrgreen:
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Yaaa, biar aja nanti dia paste sendiri omongnnya. Dia udah gede ini.
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silverlining wrote:ini judul thread toyota tidak lulus NCAP?
tapi yg dibahas fortuner.
apa ga hiperbola nih om?
:big_peace:
Kepergok nih yeeeeeeeeeeee
asudarsono wrote:Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.
Siapa om yg bilang Toyota punya NCAP rendah sekali, dan gak ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah? Coba di paste omongannya :mrgreen:

Kasian ya tukang bohong satu ini, cepet banget ketahuan belangnya hihihihi...ayo om bikin thread baru lagi, basi lo disini hihihihi
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silverlining wrote: lalu nilai NCAP fortuner sendiri brp ya?
bs tau ga brp limit terendahnya utk msg2 kategori?
makasi.
Fortuner belum pernah dites. Mungkin Toyota ngambek.
Toyota disputes NCAP testing


Toyota is disputing the test methods of safety organisation Euro NCAP after the Urban Cruiser was given a disappointing three-star rating.

The Toyota Urban Cruiser was particularly criticised by Euro NCAP for its Adult Occupant Protection capabilities, for which it scored just 58 per cent.

See Toyota Urban Cruiser crash test pictures

Dr Michiel van Ratingen, Euro NCAP's secretary general said, "The result from Toyota is disappointing. Consumers should always check when looking to buy new car and not make presumptions about a vehicle's safety performance due to the brand it carries."
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArtic ... er/245310/

Nilai NCAP untuk Hilux adalah 19. Tapi ini pakai metode tahun 2001 di mana belum dimasukkan tes untuk Child Protection.
Cara NCAP mengetes? Dasarnya mobil ditabrakin, kemudian dihitung berapa kemungkinan orang mati. Teoritis sih, angka nol bisa saja diperoleh, kalau kemungkinan mati sangat besar.
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asudarsono wrote:Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.
Siapa om yg bilang Toyota punya NCAP rendah sekali, dan gak ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah? Coba di paste omongannya :mrgreen:
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Dr Michiel van Ratingen juga ngomong tuh. Kalau yg pemilik Fortuner sih, gak penting. Cuma bisa lempar batu sembunyi tangan
Dr Michiel van Ratingen, Euro NCAP's secretary general said, "The result from Toyota is disappointing. Consumers should always check when looking to buy new car and not make presumptions about a vehicle's safety performance due to the brand it carries."
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asudarsono wrote:Kemarin ada seorang pemilik Fortuner di SM yakin sekali bahwa Toyota punya nilai NCAP rendah sekali. Katanya gak akan ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah, kecuali KIA Rio. Saking yakinnya, kita disuruh bikin daftar. Berhubung kita orang baik maka ini, dik, daftarnya.
Siapa om yg bilang Toyota punya NCAP rendah sekali, dan gak ada mobil lain yg lebih rendah? Coba di paste omongannya :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:Dr Michiel van Ratingen juga ngomong tuh. Kalau yg pemilik Fortuner sih, gak penting. Cuma bisa lempar batu sembunyi tangan
Euro NCAP's top five achievers of 2009

For the first time, Euro NCAP can now release its top five safest cars of 2009, based on their maximum five star award and their overall score. Top of this list is the Volkswagen Golf VI that was first tested in 2008 under the former rating scheme and was re-released in 2009.

The Honda Insight Hybrid and Toyota Prius, two fuel-efficient vehicles tested in 2009, were second and third respectively in Euro NCAP’s list of safest, crash-tested cars. In fourth place is the Hyundai i20. There are three joint winners for fifth place – the Toyota Avensis, Volvo XC60 and the Opel/Vauxhall Astra. Euro NCAP’s poorest results of the year were achieved by the Suzuki Alto and the Toyota Urban Cruiser, which both received three stars.

1. VW Golf VI
2. Honda Insight
3. Toyota Prius
4. Hyundai i20
5. Toyota Avensis
5. Volvo XC60 5. Opel/Vauxhall Astra

In 2009, Euro NCAP crash tested thirty three car models, using up to a total of three cars, three front seats, four child seats and an array of spare parts per model. To achieve the overall rating, the car model is usually put through four crash tests, a component test and is assessed by an inspector who considers tests results and the safety equipment and features of the car. In 2009, upon the request of the manufacturer Euro NCAP also considered results from vehicles crash-tested in 2007/2008 and carried out the necessary tests and assessment to upgrade them to a result applicable under the new rating scheme.

Dr Michiel van Ratingen, Secretary General of Euro NCAP says “This is the first time we can calculate results that demonstrate an overall safety performance. Even though these cars excel in different areas of safety, their presence in the top-five list indicates that they are among the top safety achievers of the year”.
Dr. siapa? :mrgreen:
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Australian NCAP. Dalam kurung adalah jumlah airbagnya. Sampling sebagai berikut :

Lima bintang
Peugeot 308 (6)
Peugeot 407 (6)
Peugeot 207 (6)
BMW 3 series (6)
Subaru Liberty (2)
Subaru Forester (4)
Subaru Impreza (4)
Subaru Outback (4)

Empat bintang
BMW 5 series (6)
Corolla (2)
Camry (2)
Yaris (2)
RAV4 (2)
Hilux (2)

Tiga bintang
KIA Rio (2)
Toyota Echo (1)
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Wah...berarti Avanza juga 3 bintang dong kalo di test di australi... :mrgreen:
toyotaman wrote:Kia Rio
http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/Alcyc/rio.htm
Total Score : 32.4
DEPAN 9.41
40% 12.44
SAMPING 10.56
toyotaman wrote:Toyota AVANZA / daihatsu XENIA
http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/Alcyc/senya.htm
Total score 34.1
Score tabrakan dari DEPAN 9.88
Score tabrakan dari 40% offset depan 12.81
Score tabrakan dari SAMPING 11.44
DI Indonesia Kia Rio/Pride juga gak ada airbag...namanya juga ngejar harga...
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Hahaha, mana ada orang Australia mau beli Avanza. Di Indonesia aja gak ada expat yang mau naik. Orang Jepang pegawai Toyota aja mending naik busway darpada Avanza. Tuh di China aja memble.

Hahaha, A V A N Z A.
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asudarsono wrote:Australian NCAP. Dalam kurung adalah jumlah airbagnya. Sampling sebagai berikut :
Empat bintang
BMW 5 series (6)
Corolla (2)
Camry (2)
Yaris (2)
RAV4 (2)
Hilux (2)
Wah...bener2 tukang bohong nih
http://www.ancap.com.au/crashTestRecord.aspx?Id=200
Toyota Corolla ==> 5 BINTANG

http://www.ancap.com.au/crashTestRecord.aspx?Id=181
Toyota Yaris ==> 5 BINTANG

Ah...sampah nih data si darsono. Mau nipu ya om? :mrgreen:
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Itu khan versi Australia.... Airbagnya 6. Silahkan aja kalau mau jual Corolla dan Yaris airbag 6. Aku dukung deh.

Di atas ada nyebut Prius dan Avensis lagi. Makhluk apa gue gak tahu.
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asudarsono wrote:Di atas ada nyebut Prius dan Avensis lagi. Makhluk apa gue gak tahu.


Gak tau Prius? Huahahahahahaha....dijual resmi di Indonesia. 5 BINTANG

Makanya om, kalo pengetahuan cetek, jangan banyak omong :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Gak tahu gue. Mobil gak laku. Toyota yang laku cuma Daihatsu Avanza hahahaha.

Corolla laku?
Yaris laku?
Camry maju?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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asudarsono wrote:Gak tahu gue. Mobil gak laku. Toyota yang laku cuma Daihatsu Avanza hahahaha.

Corolla laku?
Yaris laku?
Camry maju?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
http://www.inilah.com/news/read/otomoti ... s-naik-25/
Penjualan Toyota Yaris naik 25,1%, yaitu 1.717 unit sepanjang Juni 2010 dibandingkan bulan sebelumnya. Angka ini menjadikan pangsa pasar Yaris mencapai 32,4% di kelasnya.
Pengetahuan cetek, jangan banyak omong om :mrgreen: