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asudarsono wrote:Itu metode pelepasan baut roda Focus kalau patah. Sayangnya gak ada indikasi bahwa emang pernah ada yang patah.
ooo...gak bisa bahasa inggris juga
Breaking off wheel lug studs seems to be a common problem on the Focus. The fronts seem more prone to breaking, and they're easy to replace.
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Belum pernah denger ada pemilik Focus yang komplain tuh.


Kalau Toyota banyaaaaaak.
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asudarsono wrote:Belum pernah denger ada pemilik Focus yang komplain tuh. Kalau Toyota banyaaaaaak.
Ya situ gak bisa bahasa inggris... :mrgreen:
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Dik FM kalau udah kalah, ngambeknya lucu deh.
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http://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Explo ... tuds.shtml
I have had this 2003 Explorer 4x4 since new. I have had 9 wheel studs break; three times the wheel has come off while driving, fortunately at low speeds. Each time factory parts were used for the replacements and the wheel studs have never exceeded thier torque specs.
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http://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Explo ... tuds.shtml
Bought vehicle in January 2007. The only work done was oil changes & complete brake job. About 1 week ago while on a major interstate, traveling 65-70mph, the right front wheel and tire came off, all 5 studs had snapped off, by the grace of God nobody was hurt. Had the Explorer towed to a ford dealership. They told me they had no clue as to the cause & my extended warranty did not cover this. My main concern is that this doesn't happen to someone else. The dealership appeared to not be too concerned about the whole incident. Towed the vehicle back to where I work and my mechanic found even more damage that the dealership never saw. Since I did not feel safe in the truck anymore I traded for a Chevy Trailblazer and I'm much happier. NO more Fords!!!
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asudarsono wrote:Terjemahannya adalah : baut roda Toyota emang harus hati2 dalam pengencangan. Kelebihan 2 lb.ft pun bisa bikin baut itu patah.

Untung jaman sekarang bengkel2 ban udah gak pakai pneumatic wrench secara berlebih. Bisa berisiko patah semua itu baut Toyota.
Terjemahan ini apa om :mrgreen: biar si maskopat ngerti :mrgreen:
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http://hhrchevyfamily.19.forumer.com/a/ ... t2187.html
I am a bit embarrassed that I even did this, but I thought I would share this. :oops: Well, I am getting the HHR ready for our trip to northern Ontario, we leave on Wednesday, so I changed the oil & filter and rotated the tires. I was just finishing up putting the last wheel back on the passenger side rear and I snapped one of the wheel studs. I haven’t broken a stud off one of my cars in 40 years of rotating/changing tires and I have had some junkers.
Waduh GM gak bisa bikin baut ya om :mrgreen:
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Isuzu itu GM, adik manis. Apa Toyota akan jadi GM juga???

I'm laughing here. Udah ya, om pamit dari tret ini. Bikin tret neraka baru yuk.
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Contohnya Chevy, dia nyambung ke Isuzu :mrgreen:
Kalo Isuzu di halaman belakang om....
asudarsono wrote:Bahwa baut velg bisa patah, itu cuma dlm cerita2 org bikin spacer.
aspsilver wrote:baut patah sih memang tidak baik.
tapi apabila patahnya pada saat mengencangkan roda, sih biasa aja ya.
dahulu kala panther saya pernah mengalami hal serupa, bukan masalah besar.
tinggal diganti saja.
Yg jelas baut patah bukan "cerita2" doang om. Lain kali jangan ngebual lagi ya om... Udah sana, sudah cukup anda dipermalukan hari ini :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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OOT ahh... ehh uda brantakan jg ini tret...


ngebrantakin tret xtrel ama detailing aja ahh kalo gt... :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Wah kalo jual baut roda gocengan trz patah bisa dituntut gak ya? :upss: :upss:
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kalo soal baut patah bisa dituntut seh.. ane jg mau tuh tuntut isuzu... masa baut chasis bisa patah... :ungg: :ungg: :ungg:
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jadi bingung ane.. sebenernya ngecengin baut roda itu seberapa kuat sih? n perlu pake berat badan kah? secara ane lom pernah ganti ban mobil ndiri :upss:

n terakhir kali liat sodara ganti ban mobil kijang kapsul ntu pake berat badan dia buat kencengin. n ga ada tuh kejadian patah.. :shrug:
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scorpio wrote:jadi bingung ane.. sebenernya ngecengin baut roda itu seberapa kuat sih? n perlu pake berat badan kah? secara ane lom pernah ganti ban mobil ndiri :upss:

n terakhir kali liat sodara ganti ban mobil kijang kapsul ntu pake berat badan dia buat kencengin. n ga ada tuh kejadian patah.. :shrug:
sesuai standard yang ane tau itu momen kekencengan baut roda itu hanya 12kg..
itu pengalaman ane pas magang di beres..
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m4rio wrote:
scorpio wrote:jadi bingung ane.. sebenernya ngecengin baut roda itu seberapa kuat sih? n perlu pake berat badan kah? secara ane lom pernah ganti ban mobil ndiri :upss:

n terakhir kali liat sodara ganti ban mobil kijang kapsul ntu pake berat badan dia buat kencengin. n ga ada tuh kejadian patah.. :shrug:
sesuai standard yang ane tau itu momen kekencengan baut roda itu hanya 12kg..
itu pengalaman ane pas magang di beres..
klo 12kg berarti ga usah pake berat badan dunk, rasa2nya 12kg mah diputer pake tangan jg dapet yah.. begitukah??
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m4rio wrote:
scorpio wrote:jadi bingung ane.. sebenernya ngecengin baut roda itu seberapa kuat sih? n perlu pake berat badan kah? secara ane lom pernah ganti ban mobil ndiri :upss:

n terakhir kali liat sodara ganti ban mobil kijang kapsul ntu pake berat badan dia buat kencengin. n ga ada tuh kejadian patah.. :shrug:
sesuai standard yang ane tau itu momen kekencengan baut roda itu hanya 12kg..
itu pengalaman ane pas magang di beres..
Tergantung untuk mobil apa dulu.
Kalo colt diesel 12kg kyk nya masih kurang kuat deh :mrgreen:
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sama... ane ngenceing baut panther ama lipina pake berat badang jg kaga patah tuh...
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BADAK wrote:
m4rio wrote:
scorpio wrote:jadi bingung ane.. sebenernya ngecengin baut roda itu seberapa kuat sih? n perlu pake berat badan kah? secara ane lom pernah ganti ban mobil ndiri :upss:

n terakhir kali liat sodara ganti ban mobil kijang kapsul ntu pake berat badan dia buat kencengin. n ga ada tuh kejadian patah.. :shrug:
sesuai standard yang ane tau itu momen kekencengan baut roda itu hanya 12kg..
itu pengalaman ane pas magang di beres..
Tergantung untuk mobil apa dulu.
Kalo colt diesel 12kg kyk nya masih kurang kuat deh :mrgreen:
iye..liat supir truk ngencengin baut roda pake dinaikin stangnya ampe bunyi krooooooook..krooook..krook..krok.. Apa g takut putus y?
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BADAK wrote:Tergantung untuk mobil apa dulu.
Kalo colt diesel 12kg kyk nya masih kurang kuat deh :mrgreen:
dak...itu colt diesel roda sebelah mana yang ngencangin baut nya puter ke kiri...?? :ungg:
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Guys, gw mau klarifikasi niy...
gw jg jd bingung jd berantakan gini treathnya :D
btw, akhirnya yaris gw selesai diberesin, baru td dianter, dan semua bautnya diganti (4 roda).
katanya siy spy safety... dan akhirnya, gw cancel pembatalan pembelian mobilnya...
Tp for info, yg ngurus semua bukan Astra World, jd buat lo2 pada yg berharap banyak sm AstraWorld, mending lupain, slogan nya [cencored] semua... bahkan smp skrg mobil gw dah beres, komplain gw gak pernah digubris...
Yaris gw murni diurus sm sales nya, namanya Taufan dari Auto200 Ciledug, rekomended deh....
agak aneh siy mobil yg rusak tp sales yg ngurus, tp gitulah perusahaan besar, pada maen safe semua, kalo bisa nyalahin pegawai lapangannya, ngapain jg musti keluar dr ruangan ber-AC :D
Tp keren comment2nya, gw yakin semakin smart customernya, semakin berfikir jg produsen utk sekedar bikin produk2 yg ga berkualitas.
Ada beberapa point yg gw simpulkan:
1. Baut patah, yes, itu bahaya, apapun alasannya, yg pasti baut mobil dibikin 4, 5 atau lebih pasti karena dasar tertentu, bukan cuma karena alasan: "biasanya gpp" hey please, skrg 2010 bukan... kalo cm sekedar gaya2 an atau non standar spesification, gw percaya baut 2 dr 4 pun masih bisa jalan...
Gw jg pernah gawe di engineering airline, buat info aja, pesawat 2 engine, sebenarnya bisa terbang dengan hanya 1 engine, tp kalo di darat diketahui engine brekdown 1, status pesawat AOG, alias gak boleh terbang...
2. Product defect, yes its common things... tp masalahnya, bgmn produsen bisa memberikan after sales services, mungkin kalo bukan krn org Astranya nyolot dan bisa kasih solusi, customer pasti fine2 aja, walaupun Toyota banyak ngeluarin continous improvement spt Lean Manufacture, Kanban System, Just in Time, Total Quality Management, atau bahkan yg teranyar Six Sigma pun masih mengklaim kemungkinan DPMO (Defect Per Million Opprtunity), jd defect itu mungkin terjadi, cuma produsen harus berfikir lebih keraslah memberikan solusi buat customernya, masa mau uangnya aja....
3. Momen pemasangan baut roda, setau gw ini prosedur standarnya : Keraskan mur roda dengan Torsi : 600 kgf-cm (59 N.m; 43 lbf.ft), inget loh kgf, bukan kg...
4. Urusan komplain gw, ini bukan sekedar bikin bos, walaupun sudah diganti, gw tetep minta ada investigasi, sampai ada hasil lab, kalo emang terbukti karena gw yg salah pasang atau kekerasan masangnya, gw bilang gw siap untuk diberikan denda dan minta maaf ke media2, tp kalo bukan karena gw, Toyota harus bertanggung jawab donk.... jadi jangan salah persepsi, ini bukan untuk menjelekkan merk tertentu, karena gw pun pengguna Toyota, ngapain juga gw jelekin mobil sendiri, tp ini murni kekecewaan gw dan hak untuk memperoleh informasi atas produk yg kita beli.
Sekarang kalo ada yg bilang ini kasus biasa, coba lo bayangin, ada sales mobil yg nawarin mobil tp bilang gini : Pak, ini mobil bagus punya, tp mungkin nanti setelah seminggu mungkin baut bannya patah, tp ga usah khawatir Pak, pas sudah patah kami pasti ganti..... YAKIN LO MAU BELI TUH MOBIL ??????
5. Buat org2 yg merasa tersinggung dengan treath ini, gw harap bisa lebih bijaksana, secara memang gak ada yg sempurna bro, nah karena gak ada yg sempurna makanya perusahaan punya cust service dll. Kalo dah sempurna mah, ngapain gaji pegawai, cukup bikin dengan robot, dan jualan on line :D

Thanks ya all...
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oh iya, berhubung udah kelar yarisnya, skrg giliran bikin kaca film, kalo ada yg jualan 3 M, Vkool atau Huper Optic, please PM me ya... tp khusus buat yg punya harga bagus aja, rencana sabtu ini gw mau pasang....
Spec:
3 M
Depan : Crystalyne 70
Belakang+samping : kombinasi BB 20 sama BB 5
Vkool:
Depan : Vkool 70
Belakang+samping : kombinasi BB 20 sama BB 5
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yah, kurang lebih yg spec nya sm dng yg di atas deh...
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BADAK wrote:
m4rio wrote:
scorpio wrote:jadi bingung ane.. sebenernya ngecengin baut roda itu seberapa kuat sih? n perlu pake berat badan kah? secara ane lom pernah ganti ban mobil ndiri :upss:

n terakhir kali liat sodara ganti ban mobil kijang kapsul ntu pake berat badan dia buat kencengin. n ga ada tuh kejadian patah.. :shrug:
sesuai standard yang ane tau itu momen kekencengan baut roda itu hanya 12kg..
itu pengalaman ane pas magang di beres..
Tergantung untuk mobil apa dulu.
Kalo colt diesel 12kg kyk nya masih kurang kuat deh :mrgreen:
imho, masuk om mario adalah 12 kg.m... jadi ente pake kuncing yang panjangnya 1m, terus diujung itu ente kasih beban 12kg.. kira2 gitu dah... :big_peace:
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wah, om anto.. selamat yarisnya udah beres. semoga gak ada masalah lagi di kemudian hari..

tentang KF, bisa dilihat di affiliate. banyak koq SMers yang jualan KF... :big_peace:
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jalu wrote:
BADAK wrote:Tergantung untuk mobil apa dulu.
Kalo colt diesel 12kg kyk nya masih kurang kuat deh :mrgreen:
dak...itu colt diesel roda sebelah mana yang ngencangin baut nya puter ke kiri...?? :ungg:
sebelah kiri om... ngencenginnya berlawanan arah jarum jam... mitsu jeep babeh ane dulu roda bagian kirinya ngencengin baut rodanya begitu. gak tahu apakah di truk masih seperti itu.. :big_peace:
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maskopat wrote:kalo yang ini, gak tahu deh...
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