Forum spare parts part II

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m4rio wrote:udah om. silahkan langsung meluncur.... :frm_salut:
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m4rio wrote:@ sjamsul : om, dulu ane juga mikirnya begitu, tapi setelah ane tanya lagi katanya kalo gedein aki tanpa ngerubah altenator percuma, aki gk bakal bisa full.
kalo ane mikirnya gini tentang rubah aki : ember 1 liter ( aki lama ) dan ember 2 liter ( aki baru ) nah biarpun di isi dengan air yang keluar misalnya 1 liter/ menit. nah aki ember yang kapasitasnya udah 2 liter kgk bakalan penuh, karena selama mobil jalan beban kelistrikan juga pasti digunakan, ya buat ac, lampu2, tape, dll. jadi dengan kapasaitas keran 1 liter/menit gk kekejar buat penuhinnya. jadi kalo mau katanya selain aki di gedein alternator juga harus di rubah ke yang lebih besar juga...

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Perumpamaannya kurang tepat, mar. Lebih tepat diibaratkan kita lg charge HP, kita pake untuk telp, sms, browsing, apakah berarti batt tidak akan terisi penuh? Tetap bisa terisi penuh, cuman waktunya lebih lama. Kalo masalah pemakaian ac ato lampu2, aku rasa itu tidak akan menguras daya smp tekor, asal kondisi mesin menyala. Karena pemakaian daya terbesar adalah pada saat starter, bukan lampu2 atau ac. Kecuali pemakaian audio yg extreme. Sama jg kyk aki, misal kapasitas std 35A, trs digedein jd 70A berarti waktu pengisian akan 2x lebih lama dr std nya. Dlm hal ini berarti altenator yg akan bekerja keras.
Kenapa dgn digedein kapasitas maka aki bisa lebih awet? Bisa dilihat pd mobil niaga untuk pengiriman barang yg sering berhenti & melakukan starter. Pada saat daya aki tersedot banyak untuk starter, maka altenator akan melakukan pengisian daya pd aki. Tapi karena waktu yg relatif pendek (mobil udah berhenti lg), maka daya cadangan pd aki lama2 akan terkuras sebelum sempat terisi penuh. Disinilah peningkatan kapasitas aki akan berperan besar thd umur aki.
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@ badak.. emank bakal terisi penuh walaupun lama, nah masalahnya takutnya gk seimbang antara arus pengisian yg masuk dan beban yang keluar. nah takutnya juga aki yang dah di gedein itu gk terisi arus maksimal, bisa ja hanya setengahnya atau lebih, tapi gk ampe full.

nah mksd ane umpamain yg tadi itu mksdnya aki baru yang dinaikan misalnya jadi 70 ampere itu mungkin gk bisa ampe full 70 ampere...

menurut ane sih gitu...
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m4rio wrote:@ badak.. emank bakal terisi penuh walaupun lama, nah masalahnya takutnya gk seimbang antara arus pengisian yg masuk dan beban yang keluar. nah takutnya juga aki yang dah di gedein itu gk terisi arus maksimal, bisa ja hanya setengahnya atau lebih, tapi gk ampe full.

nah mksd ane umpamain yg tadi itu mksdnya aki baru yang dinaikan misalnya jadi 70 ampere itu mungkin gk bisa ampe full 70 ampere...

menurut ane sih gitu...
Nah justru itu mar fungsi gedein daya pada aki.
Karena kita berjaga-jaga apabila aki belum sempat terisi penuh. Jadi misal aki 32A belum sempat terisi penuh, udah diambil untuk starter. Maka bisa dipastikan aki tidak akan berumur panjang karena daya cadangan tidak mencukupi. Berbeda kalo kita gedein kapasitas aki, maka daya cadangan masih cukup untuk 2x starter walopun tidak terisi penuh.
Perumpamaan gampangnya: Aki 50A, untuk melakukan starter membutuhkan daya 30A. Maka cadangan aki 20A. Pada waktu mobil berjalan dan aki baru terisi 25A, aki udah dipake starter lagi. Berarti aki tidak cukup memenuhi kemampuan starter, karena daya yg dibutuhkan adl 30A pdhl aki baru terisi 25A. Nah kliatan khan misalnya aki digedein jd 70A, dipake starter sekali berarti msh ada cadangan 40A. Mobil berjalan maka walopun belum terisi penuh, setidak2nya aki msh ada cadangan yg cukup untuk melakukan starter. Tolong dikoreksi prof kl ada yg salah :big_peace:
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@BADAK:
ane akan koreksi di thread aki, biar bisa terpake klo ada yg kesulitan mengenai aki.......jadi silahkan tulis lagi di thread tsb, nanti akan ane kasih komennya.... ok.....
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@ badak : nah itu kalo kondisi aki baru di ganti dan masih full 70 ampere. nah kalo udah berkurang atau udah di pake misalnya 1 minggu gmn tuh? kan otomatis balik lagi ke daya sama seperti aki semula ???????

kalo diliat dari perumpamaannya kan diliat bearti semakin lama kapasitas semakin menurun.
kalo umpamanya ane nih ya..
aki full 70 ampere, daya starter 30 ampere ( yang tadi broo tulis )ada sisa 40 ampere, mobil jalan dan keisi jadi misalnya 50 ampere, starter lgi sisa 20 ampere. nah berkurang lgi donk tuh....
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m4rio wrote:@ badak : nah itu kalo kondisi aki baru di ganti dan masih full 70 ampere. nah kalo udah berkurang atau udah di pake misalnya 1 minggu gmn tuh? kan otomatis balik lagi ke daya sama seperti aki semula ???????

kalo diliat dari perumpamaannya kan diliat bearti semakin lama kapasitas semakin menurun.
kalo umpamanya ane nih ya..
aki full 70 ampere, daya starter 30 ampere ( yang tadi broo tulis )ada sisa 40 ampere, mobil jalan dan keisi jadi misalnya 50 ampere, starter lgi sisa 20 ampere. nah berkurang lgi donk tuh....
Memang begitulah cara kerja nya. Jangankan dipake starter, aki didiemin aja pst berkurang sendiri koq. Istilahnya self discharge.
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@ badak : yo i broo...
jadi kalo menurut ane kalo mau naikin kapasitas aki gk bisa lgsg sembarangan. harus liat kapasitas alternator juga..
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aku kasi perumpamaan daya 50A berkurang 30A bukan keadaan sebenernya, mar.
tapi hny buat contoh biar mudah dimengerti. dalam hal ini kapasitas aki tetap 50A, cmn stroomnya yg berkurang.
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sjamsul wrote:
DOHC wrote:jadi aki gede amper jg ga ngaruh yah om buat lampu, radio, ac, dll... kalo gt knapa orang2 kadang gedein amper aki yah padahal kaga pasang aksesoris tambahan.. :e-think: :e-think: :e-think: emang ada benefit apa gt...
ane kasih perumpamaan ya..... aki digedein ampernye, sama juga dg nt merubah tengki bensin (misalnya) dari yg kapasitas 55 liter menjadi 80 liter. Hasilnye adalah jarak tempuh mobil jadi lbh jauh khannn...... Nah, begitu juga aki, klo ampernya digedein, mk tenaga di akinya akan menjadi lbh besar. Jadi seandainya, mesin ga mau hidup saat distarter krn satu n lain sebab, mk jumlah starter yg dapat dilakukan akan lbh banyak dibandingkan dg aki yg lbh kecil ampernye...................

smoga bermanfaat..........
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broo.. engine mounting panther berapaan ya???
apakah ada merek yang dipake ama OEM kyk bearing gitu?
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sjamsul wrote:
nescafe wrote:sundul lagi ahh..

belum lama ini ganti tie rod end 2004 honda accord, kena 375rb per pieces.. saya gantinya di pasar mobil kemayoran..
setelah itu mblnya udah di spooring lagi ato belum nes...... :e-think: ..
lupa ngejawab.. :mrgreen:

udah saya spooring lg pak.. :D
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nescafe wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
nescafe wrote:sundul lagi ahh..

belum lama ini ganti tie rod end 2004 honda accord, kena 375rb per pieces.. saya gantinya di pasar mobil kemayoran..
setelah itu mblnya udah di spooring lagi ato belum nes...... :e-think: ..
lupa ngejawab.. :mrgreen:

udah saya spooring lg pak.. :D
udah di balancing belom.. :e-think:
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Kalo mau spooring apakah wajib balancing juga? :e-think:
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poeticmind wrote:udah di balancing belom.. :e-think:
seinget gw belum di balancing lagi,, nanti deh sekalian servis di balancing + spooring, udah mau servis berkala ini :D
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nescafe wrote:
poeticmind wrote:udah di balancing belom.. :e-think:
seinget gw belum di balancing lagi,, nanti deh sekalian servis di balancing + spooring, udah mau servis berkala ini :D
terus... udah Finish Balance belom...? :e-think:
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poeticmind wrote:
nescafe wrote:
poeticmind wrote:udah di balancing belom.. :e-think:
seinget gw belum di balancing lagi,, nanti deh sekalian servis di balancing + spooring, udah mau servis berkala ini :D
terus... udah Finish Balance belom...? :e-think:
ya sekalian pak :D
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poeticmind wrote:
nescafe wrote:
poeticmind wrote:udah di balancing belom.. :e-think:
seinget gw belum di balancing lagi,, nanti deh sekalian servis di balancing + spooring, udah mau servis berkala ini :D
terus... udah Finish Balance belom...? :e-think:

buset pake finish balance segala??? setau ane jarang ada bengkel yang ada alat finish balance.....
tapi kyknya balance biasa aja cukup deh..
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m4rio wrote:broo.. engine mounting panther berapaan ya???
apakah ada merek yang dipake ama OEM kyk bearing gitu?

halo halo, partz ane gimana nih.. :e-whistle:
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cuekin si mario tissue basah ahh... :e-whistle: :e-whistle: :e-whistle: :e-whistle:
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DOHC wrote:cuekin si mario tissue basah ahh... :e-whistle: :e-whistle: :e-whistle: :e-whistle:
wuahduu.. kacau dah kalo gini nih...
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tanya bang turboman aja lah mar... beliau perna ganti enjin mounting panther nya tuh....
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Engine mounting ada mcm2 merk nya, mar.
Yg ori lokal gak mahal, kalo yg ori import mayan mahal.
Kalo yg aftermarket lokal murah aja koq, plg kisaran puluhan ribu doang.
Emang udah terasa goncang ya? Pny ku udah hmpr 10th aja blm prnh ganti engine mounting
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BADAK wrote:Engine mounting ada mcm2 merk nya, mar.
Yg ori lokal gak mahal, kalo yg ori import mayan mahal.
Kalo yg aftermarket lokal murah aja koq, plg kisaran puluhan ribu doang.
Emang udah terasa goncang ya? Pny ku udah hmpr 10th aja blm prnh ganti engine mounting
kalo yang aftermarket tapi ori broo??? kyk bearing kan bisa tuh beli merek yang sama kyk ori tapi beli di luar..

punya ente jangan2 mesinnya ngambang?? hehehehehehe :big_peace:
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m4rio wrote:buset pake finish balance segala??? setau ane jarang ada bengkel yang ada alat finish balance.....
tapi kyknya balance biasa aja cukup deh..
ya kalau ada alatnya, knapa tidak? :mrgreen:
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