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Rupanya Toyota di India cukup kewalahan dgn "serangan" dari Hyundai / VW, dll

Toyota aiming to cut car prices 30% by 2013

TOKYO: Toyota Motor Corp is aiming to slash its car prices by 30 percent by 2013 through a new cost-cutting strategy to better compete against rivals such as Hyundai, a senior executive said.

Toyota, until recently the world's fastest-growing carmaker, in under intense pressure to become more competitive as Volkswagen, Hyundai Motor and others narrow the sales gap with rapid growth in China, India and other emerging markets.

"Compared with Korean cars, our vehicles are roughly 30 percent more expensive globally," Takeshi Shirane, senior managing director in charge of purchasing, told Reuters in an interview on Friday.

"So what we've said is, let's work towards that goal."

Under the scheme, called RR-CI, Toyota is tasking engineers and purchasing staff to work together to collectively come up with the best way to design and manufacture 165 designated components, setting a unique cost-reduction target for each. Suppliers are also asked to contribute ideas.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 063735.cms

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Suatu langkah yang berani !! :frm_tumbright:

Asal kualitas tetap dipertahankan

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30% itu banyak sekali.
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Buset, toyota masih mau potong biaya gila gilaan lagi ? Apakah masih kurang yang belakangan sampai banyak pihak, terutama di Amrik, Eropa dan Jepang mengeluh justru selama ini toyota potong biayanya udah berlebihan sehingga sampai muncul banyak kasus aneh aneh ?


Kemungkinan besar mobil Korea harganya competitive karena biaya produksi / bahan mereka di Korea lebih kecil banding di Jepang yang terkenal mahal, dan atau Hyundai demi saing lebih rela margin keuntungannya agak kecil. Ngak seperti misalnya honda yang kasih diskon freed 40 juta aja masih untung.


Saya pribadi saat ini yakin bahwa mutu Hyundai JAUH lebih bagus banding toyota, liat aja di manca negara yang medianya ngak terlalu belain, kongkalikong ama toyota, seperti di China, Hyundai malah lebih besar di sono banding toyota. Dan di pasar manapun pertumbuhan Hyundai cepat dan di takuti banyak pabrik mobil lain.


Kalau mutu Hyundai masih sejelek dulu, ngak mungkin mereka bisa mencapai prestasi seperti ini. Cuman di Indonesia aja banyak orang internet tapi facebook / twitter doang urusan pribadi, mana tau Hyundai sudah sangat kuat di negara besar lain ?


Di Indonesia penjualan Hyundai masih kecil karena image masih di hanggap miring ama orang Indonesia. Buktinya kali ini mereka malah berani kasih garansi 5 tahun untuk Hyundai H1 CKD. Dan yang mengembirakan, ternyata nilai jual kembali H1 ini dari segi persentasi malah nyaris sama ama mobil Jepang yang laris di Indonesia. Dan ini udah pasti karena memang produk Hyundai yang baru mutunya sudah BAGUS.


Satu alasan lagi kenapa banyak pabrik lain kwatir ama Hyundai karena, selain Hyundai sudah belajar banyak dan sudah pintar bikin mobil bagus dengan mutu baik saat ini, juga ongkos mereka di Korea lebih murah banding Jepang. Ini yang bikin saingan di Jepang dan juga Amerika pusing kepala.


Liat aja produk Korea lain, seperti merek Samsung, LG, apalagi Samsung, sangat dominan di pasar monitor, etc dan bahkan belum lama ini muncul TV 3D merek Samsung, malah kata sales tokonya merek Jepang seperti Sony etc belum tampil di toko mereka.


Sayang Hyundai H1 terlalu besar kalau ngak udah saya beli.


Turboman wrote:Rupanya Toyota di India cukup kewalahan dgn "serangan" dari Hyundai / VW, dll

Toyota aiming to cut car prices 30% by 2013

TOKYO: Toyota Motor Corp is aiming to slash its car prices by 30 percent by 2013 through a new cost-cutting strategy to better compete against rivals such as Hyundai, a senior executive said.

Toyota, until recently the world's fastest-growing carmaker, in under intense pressure to become more competitive as Volkswagen, Hyundai Motor and others narrow the sales gap with rapid growth in China, India and other emerging markets.

"Compared with Korean cars, our vehicles are roughly 30 percent more expensive globally," Takeshi Shirane, senior managing director in charge of purchasing, told Reuters in an interview on Friday.

"So what we've said is, let's work towards that goal."

Under the scheme, called RR-CI, Toyota is tasking engineers and purchasing staff to work together to collectively come up with the best way to design and manufacture 165 designated components, setting a unique cost-reduction target for each. Suppliers are also asked to contribute ideas.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 063735.cms

IMHO:
Suatu langkah yang berani !! :frm_tumbright:

Asal kualitas tetap dipertahankan

Bagaimana dgn TAM ? Apakah ada rencana serupa ?
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toyotaman wrote:Kalau mutu Hyundai masih sejelek dulu, ngak mungkin mereka bisa mencapai prestasi seperti ini. Cuman di Indonesia aja banyak orang internet tapi facebook / twitter doang urusan pribadi, mana tau Hyundai sudah sangat kuat di negara besar lain ?


Jadi seharusnya internet buat ngapain toyotaman....situ atur dong buat kita semua :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Kalo saya sih buat baca tentang TOYOTA
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HYUNDAI itu perusahaan raksasa... setau saya malah termasuk yg paling besar di dunia... wong dia buat kapal tanker. :)

tapi tetep, hyundai itu tidak bisa mengutamakan hanya kualitas... karena mereka memperhitungkan bukan utk digunakan lifetime. semua bahan yg digunakan murah... sesuai dengan harga jualnya.
so wajar laaaaah... jadi saya ga setuju kalo hyundai itu jelek, saya lebih suka bilang kualitas menengah. kalo mau kualitas atas, tentu saya ga ambil hyundai... :mrgreen:

btt, kalo TAM mau ikut dengan rencana serupa, itu bagus... why not? meski kalo saya liat TAM ga kekurangan apapun, dengan penjualan toyota yg stabil di indo.
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Kamu Putik kok tau2an ya...org Indon kan cuman bisa facebook/twitter urusan pribadi doang :mrgreen:
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wakakakaka :upss:

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Kalo mau tetap no.1 harus waspada thd tantangan baru. Caranya reduce cost mungkin begini http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... japan.html
Toyota May Shift Some Car Production to Thailand From Japan
June 30, 2010, 8:22 PM EDT

July 1 (Bloomberg) -- Toyota Motor Corp., the world’s biggest carmaker, may move production of some cars to Thailand from Japan, the head of its Thai unit said.

“We are starting consulting with Toyota Motor Japan, but things are not finalized yet,” Kyoichi Tanada, president of Toyota Motor Thailand Co., said in an interview in Bangkok. He declined to elaborate on the models being considered and said Toyota may take as long as two years to make a final decision.

Automakers including Nissan Motor Co. and Ford Motor Co. are moving production to Thailand as costs rise in other manufacturing regions. Nissan, Japan’s third-largest automaker, plans to produce 90,000 March compact cars in the Southeast Asian nation this year, the company said yesterday. Ford plans to build a $450 million car factory in the nation by 2012 that will build cars for export as well as for domestic sale.

Toyota, the largest automaker in Thailand, currently assembles its one-ton Hilux Vigo pickup truck and Fortuner sport-utility vehicle in the country for export. Lower costs and a strong supplier base are among Thailand’s advantages, Tanada said.
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Dibuat di Thailand. Soalnya tenaga kerja murah dan terampil. Kalau di Indonesia mahal.
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Yap

Hyundai Motor merp. persh yg paling ditakuti oleh manajemen Toyota.

Progress development si "H miring" dr sisi aplikasi engineering & peningkatan brand awareness serta reliability bergerak sgt cepat dari waktu ke waktu.......

Di banyak negara si "T" harus berjuang habis2 bahkan nyaris keteteran dlm menghadang serbuan si H miring ini.......spt di China / India / US / Europe, etc.

Well....ujung2-nya customer yg akan diuntungkan.

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saya kira wajarlah... toh tetep yg menentukan adalah customer pada akhirnya...
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Ah siapa takut sama siapa itu kan omongan kita saja. Semua management perusahaan yang baik harus selalu mengantisipasi ancaman2 baru.

Jaman dulu Mercedes melihat ancaman dari Lexus, mereka menghadapi tantangan dgn baik dan tetap bisa bersaing. Kenapa harus takut, saingan akan selalu ada - Hyundai pun akan menghadapi tantangan dr Chinese brands. Kalo merek China membaik - kira2 siapa yg akan menang di China? Ancaman juga toh?
VW's greatest fear isn't Toyota, it's Hyundai
July 13, 2010 - 11:00 pm ET

Volkswagen is just as concerned about what's in its rear-view mirror as what is ahead in its quest to become the world's biggest automaker. The German giant, which aims to topple Toyota from its No. 1 spot, sees Korea's Hyundai-Kia group as a bigger rival than the struggling Japanese company.

"I have the most respect for Hyundai," VW CEO Martin Winterkorn told the German news magazine Focus, naming Hyundai's improved quality and the weakness of the Korean currency as reasons why Hyundai is on his mind. "Hyundai has now learned how to build good cars," added Winterkorn.

Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/2010071 ... z0yKqnFYRV
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indahnya kompetisi dan persaingan yang sehat.... :frm_tumbright:
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Tapi kenapa yah di Indonesia, Hyundai masih begitu di rendahkan. Ada yang bilang Hyundai Bobrok ngak yah di SM sini ? Di bilang nanti bekasnya pasti turun banyak, susah jual, mutu seperti Carnival dulu ?


Sayang. Jika Hyundai H1 lebih kecil 15% aja saya langsung ambil. Sebesar Elgrand atau lebih kecil dikit pas banget.


Itu TV raksasanya di tengah, dan bisa 9 orang dan tetap bisa bawa banyak barang, mesin diesel JANTAN benar, dan ground clearance yang tinggi, 185 mm, wah, mobil impian untuk keluar kota.


Bayangkan, mesin common railnya 170 PS, torsi max 392 Nm @ 2000-2500 rpm. Percaya kalau bawa 9 orang plus segudang barang, nanjak ke mana aja PD. Dan irit lagi. Cuman entah benar ngak Hyundai Motor Indonesia bilang udah di test pakai solar biasa hampir 100,000 km tahan.


Kalau benar ya sip banget. Nilai jual kembalinya ni mobil juga saya udah check, Cukup kuat ! Pakai 2 tahun kalau ngak salah ingat masih sisa nilainya sekitar 75%, ngak beda terlalu jauh banding mobil Jepang 2 tahun yang umumnya +- 80% atau lebih dikit.


Cuman sayang, kalau ngak pakai supir, bawa sendiri, saat masuk ke mal, parkirnya ngak gampang ni mobil.
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Hyundai direndahkan? saya rasa tidak... banyak yg punya, mas... kalo soal kekurangan2 itu kan hanya complain, tapi tidak menghalangi mereka utk ambil.

realnya deh... saya tiap hari keluar pasti ada hyundai. tiap jalan gede saya belok ada hyundai... mobil tetangga saya hyundai, bengkel saya spesialis mitsu datengnya kebanyakan hyundai...
teman baik saya aja yg pengen ngambil alphard, ragu2 karena liat H1. akhirnya sementara dia ambil serena sebelum ketok palu mau ambil yg mana nanti...

dan saya sendiri punya KIA 11seater. bagus banget! no complain deh...
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waaah... H-1.... mantep bener.... :e-pray:
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pregioh :e-think: ?
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mungkin karena populasi hyundai tidak sebanyak mobil japs makanya terkesan drendahkan....untuk harga disini, hyundai ndak bs disebut murah kok..harganya hampir2 mirip dng pesaingnya....karena dominan unitnya CBU korea yg pajaknya cukup tinggi jdnya harga jualnya terkerek naik...

tapi IMO disitulah penyebab kenapa hyundai ndak begitu greget disini....sampe dsini harga jadi kurang kompetitif (padahal secara global umumnya 30% lbh murah dr produk toyota sekelasnya), mind set disini kalo harga berselisih ndak jauh ya kembali memilih mobil japs yg udah jelas after salesnya.

Kt tunggu aja sampe dimana gebrakan mereka karena beberapa unitnya sudah dirakit CKD...

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toyotaman wrote:Kalau mutu Hyundai masih sejelek dulu, ngak mungkin mereka bisa mencapai prestasi seperti ini. Cuman di Indonesia aja banyak orang internet tapi facebook / twitter doang urusan pribadi, mana tau Hyundai sudah sangat kuat di negara besar lain ?


Tuh kan toyotaman...org Indonesia bukan cuman bisa pake facebook/twitter aja :mrgreen:
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FortunerMan wrote:
toyotaman wrote:Kalau mutu Hyundai masih sejelek dulu, ngak mungkin mereka bisa mencapai prestasi seperti ini. Cuman di Indonesia aja banyak orang internet tapi facebook / twitter doang urusan pribadi, mana tau Hyundai sudah sangat kuat di negara besar lain ?


Tuh kan toyotaman...org Indonesia bukan cuman bisa pake facebook/twitter aja :mrgreen:
duhh... ane punya internet cuman buat imel, SM, forum sana sini ama nyari2 website otomotif doank... boro2 fesbuk atau twiter... bearti ane bukan orang indo donk yah... :ungg: :ungg: :ungg: :ungg:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Abu2 wrote:pregioh :e-think: ?
KIA 11seater, ya apalagi... :upss:
koreksi, bukan pregio... tp travello. udah dijual, wan... ditabung buat kebo Hyundai 5taun lagi.. hahaha
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Hyundai tucson apa santa fe om PM? keduanya manstaf punya tuh om... :frm_tumbright:
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Kalo ane jadi SBY atau gubernur daerah nih tak kasi tanah di Sumatra dimana gitu, bikinin jalan, bikinin pelabuhan - dengan perjanjian pabriknya nangkring di Indonesia 30 thn - pembagian adil perusahaan mana saja boleh asal bonafid. Lumayan tuh nyerap tenaga kerja berapa, belum industri pendukungnya. Pungli (pejabat maupun preman) dan segala macem, tembak di tempat (hehe..gak seganas itu sih..pokoknya harus ganas deh)

Kenapa Sumatra - karena tidak kalah strategisnya dengan Singapura atau Thailand. Mau kirim ke Eropa, jadi. Mau ke Amerika, jadi. Domestik, apalagi.

Eh...DPR malah NGOTOT mau bikin gedung DPR 1,6 triliun - 1 lantai khusus rekreasi "supaya anggota bisa rileks" - hayah...
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lantai 1 isinya bengkel alexspeed. kali yah.. :e-doh:
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Kayaknya betul nes...itu yg dimaksud dgn "rileks" :big_weee: :big_weee: :big_weee:
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