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asudarsono wrote:Yg gak bisa kasih fakta kamu deh. Makanya kamu gak berani bilang Peugeot bobrok, tapi cuma "tahu khan omongan mereka". Fotonya mana?
Survey gak perlu foto om :mrgreen:

http://www.connexionfrance.com/french-c ... ticle.html
Drivers question French car quality

THE RELIABILITY of French cars has been called into question in an international survey of drivers.

Almost a quarter of a million motorists in France, Germany, Switzerland, Brazil and China were asked to name the makes of vehicle they trusted the most.

Even in France, where the survey was carried out by L'Automobile magazine, only 22% of respondents named French brands Citroën, Renault or Peugeot spontaneously when asked for a reliable make of car.

Japanese brands scored best in France - at 67% - followed by German makes including Audi and BMW at 48%.
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http://www.topgear.com/content/carsurve ... /04/1.html
'Which cars are fighting a losing battle against reliability? You guessed it: they're French'

Which cars are fighting a losing battle against reliability? You guessed it: they're French. Eight out of the ten least reliable cars come from across the Channel, with the Peugeot 807 propping up the table.

The dismal people-ferrier is joined by two further Peugeots (the 307 and 407), a pair of Citroens (C3 and C8) and a trio of Renaults (the Megane, Espace and Scenic), with only the Range Rover and Ford S-MAX preventing a Gallic whitewash of the bottom ten.

In fact, the highest place Peugeot can manage is a miserable 134th for the now-defunct 206, while the highest-placing French car is the Renault Modus in, erm, 88th spot. As unreliable as une voiture Française? Malheureusement, oui.


tUH KAN...bener 407 BOBROK :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:[/quote]

Yg mana yg gak bobrok ya huahahahahahahahaha.
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Tuh khan gak berani ngomong siapa yang bobrok.
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asudarsono wrote:Tuh khan gak berani ngomong siapa yang bobrok.
Media inggris, media Prancis - atas hasil survey mereka. BOBROK. :mrgreen:
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topic yg ok, thread yg busuk
isinya 2 orang berantem doang, kurang mutu ah..

dulu istri saya pake 307 hampir 3 tahun, ga pernah masuk bengkel sekalipun diluar service rutin
panggil mekanik ke rumah cuma sekali, buat ganti aki
nice ride, quiet, irit, kursi depan enak banget, ga pernah problem, apalagi ngerongrong
ganti mobil karena tadinya bawa mobil sendiri, terus begitu disupirin cari yg lebih gede dikit
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Memang bermutu tadinya, cuman biasalah...ada yg pengetahuan minim tapi suka bikin statement2 yg seakan2 tau...dibilangin salah, dia gak terima malah ngelantur kiri kanan, ya begitulah jadinya :mrgreen:
asudarsono wrote:Wheelbase dan panjang Peugeot emang lebih dari mobil Jepang sejenis. Sekarang juga lebih lebar
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FortunerMan wrote: Toyota Camry
Wheelbase 2,776 mm
Length 4,805 mm (189.2 in)
Width 1,820 mm (71.7 in)
Height 1,470 mm (57.9 in)

Peugeot 407
Wheelbase 2,725 mm
Length Saloon: 4,676 mm (184.1 in)
Width Saloon: 1,811 mm (71.3 in)
Height Saloon: 1,445 mm (56.9 in)


Belon dibandingin Accord...lebih gede lagi...
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Ngak heran kok, kalau mobil perancis pada bobrok, kok penjualan mobil perancis masih sangat tinggi di eropa dan berapa negara lain ? Kalau benar bobrok udah bangkrut tutup usaha dulu.


Nah, ginilah, orang macam fortunerman, dia sering bilang mobil perancis bobrok, mobil amrik, eropa juga ngak bagus, tapi kalau giliran di bilang toyota kadang juga ngak benar, eh meledak.


Jadi ceritanya dia boleh nembak tapi orang lain ngak boleh nembak balik, gitu. Enak dong ?


Setidaknya perusahaan mobil perancis ngak sampai seperti toyota, accelerasi sendiri, bagian relay rod patah, mesin mendadak mati, dan hal hal lain yang risiko pemakainya meninggal atau mengalami cacat serius. Merek perancis mau di caci maki ama dia, ngak sampai gitu.


Jadi yang benar benar BOBROK sebenernya SIAPA ?

shochu wrote:topic yg ok, thread yg busuk
isinya 2 orang berantem doang, kurang mutu ah..

dulu istri saya pake 307 hampir 3 tahun, ga pernah masuk bengkel sekalipun diluar service rutin
panggil mekanik ke rumah cuma sekali, buat ganti aki
nice ride, quiet, irit, kursi depan enak banget, ga pernah problem, apalagi ngerongrong
ganti mobil karena tadinya bawa mobil sendiri, terus begitu disupirin cari yg lebih gede dikit
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to be fair memang ada hasil survey yg menyatakan bahwa banyak mobil2 dari Prancis yg dianggap paling unreliable oleh para pengguna2nya sendiri, sampai dibahas di acara otomotif terbesar seluruh dunia: Top Gear. Diantara mobil2 yg paling ngga reliable itu, kebanyakan buatan Peugeot. Tapi entah juga ya I punya teman punya 207, 307 dan 308 (emang fanatik Pug nih) bilang ama I mobil2 dia reliabilitynya baik2 aja cuman ke bengkel buat servis rutin doang malah menurut dia pelayanan after sales service nya sangat baik. Cuman memang dia kurang suka tarikannya aja yg memang agak bolot tapi selain itu Pug2 nya reliable, nyaman dan cantik2. I juga bingung mana yg benar...
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everester wrote:to be fair memang ada hasil survey yg menyatakan bahwa banyak mobil2 dari Prancis yg dianggap paling unreliable oleh para pengguna2nya sendiri, sampai dibahas di acara otomotif terbesar seluruh dunia: Top Gear. Diantara mobil2 yg paling ngga reliable itu, kebanyakan buatan Peugeot. Tapi entah juga ya I punya teman punya 207, 307 dan 308 (emang fanatik Pug nih) bilang ama I mobil2 dia reliabilitynya baik2 aja cuman ke bengkel buat servis rutin doang malah menurut dia pelayanan after sales service nya sangat baik. Cuman memang dia kurang suka tarikannya aja yg memang agak bolot tapi selain itu Pug2 nya reliable, nyaman dan cantik2. I juga bingung mana yg benar...
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maskopat wrote:
everester wrote:to be fair memang ada hasil survey yg menyatakan bahwa banyak mobil2 dari Prancis yg dianggap paling unreliable oleh para pengguna2nya sendiri, sampai dibahas di acara otomotif terbesar seluruh dunia: Top Gear. Diantara mobil2 yg paling ngga reliable itu, kebanyakan buatan Peugeot. Tapi entah juga ya I punya teman punya 207, 307 dan 308 (emang fanatik Pug nih) bilang ama I mobil2 dia reliabilitynya baik2 aja cuman ke bengkel buat servis rutin doang malah menurut dia pelayanan after sales service nya sangat baik. Cuman memang dia kurang suka tarikannya aja yg memang agak bolot tapi selain itu Pug2 nya reliable, nyaman dan cantik2. I juga bingung mana yg benar...
percaya pada hati nurani aja... jangan terlalu dengerin omongan orang lain... you like it, you buy it, you drive it... :frm_tumbright:
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everester wrote:to be fair memang ada hasil survey yg menyatakan bahwa banyak mobil2 dari Prancis yg dianggap paling unreliable oleh para pengguna2nya sendiri, sampai dibahas di acara otomotif terbesar seluruh dunia: Top Gear. Diantara mobil2 yg paling ngga reliable itu, kebanyakan buatan Peugeot. Tapi entah juga ya I punya teman punya 207, 307 dan 308 (emang fanatik Pug nih) bilang ama I mobil2 dia reliabilitynya baik2 aja cuman ke bengkel buat servis rutin doang malah menurut dia pelayanan after sales service nya sangat baik. Cuman memang dia kurang suka tarikannya aja yg memang agak bolot tapi selain itu Pug2 nya reliable, nyaman dan cantik2. I juga bingung mana yg benar...
Ya itulah gunanya statistik bro, kalo cuman pengalaman kita aja yg dipake, ya nggak tau bener apa nggak buat org lain. Dengan menggunakan survey/statistik dari sumber yg terpercaya, kita bisa tau keadaan di lingkup di luar lingkungan pribadi kita.

Tapi yg jelas pernyataan ini ngawur.
asudarsono wrote:Wheelbase dan panjang Peugeot emang lebih dari mobil Jepang sejenis. Sekarang juga lebih lebar
BUKTINYA NGAWUR?
FortunerMan wrote: Toyota Camry
Wheelbase 2,776 mm
Length 4,805 mm (189.2 in)
Width 1,820 mm (71.7 in)
Height 1,470 mm (57.9 in)

Peugeot 407
Wheelbase 2,725 mm
Length Saloon: 4,676 mm (184.1 in)
Width Saloon: 1,811 mm (71.3 in)
Height Saloon: 1,445 mm (56.9 in)


Belon dibandingin Accord...lebih gede lagi...
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everester wrote:to be fair memang ada hasil survey yg menyatakan bahwa banyak mobil2 dari Prancis yg dianggap paling unreliable oleh para pengguna2nya sendiri, sampai dibahas di acara otomotif terbesar seluruh dunia: Top Gear. Diantara mobil2 yg paling ngga reliable itu, kebanyakan buatan Peugeot. Tapi entah juga ya I punya teman punya 207, 307 dan 308 (emang fanatik Pug nih) bilang ama I mobil2 dia reliabilitynya baik2 aja cuman ke bengkel buat servis rutin doang malah menurut dia pelayanan after sales service nya sangat baik. Cuman memang dia kurang suka tarikannya aja yg memang agak bolot tapi selain itu Pug2 nya reliable, nyaman dan cantik2. I juga bingung mana yg benar...
Satu lagi, dari BBC. Sumber terpercaya bukan? Data baru dikorek nih...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anything ... truth.aspx
Megane tops MOT failure chart
13 January 2010 - The Renault Megane tops a chart compiled by the BBC using Department for Transport data that identifies the cars that most frequently and infrequently failed their first MOTs in 2007.

The data, issued by DfT subsidiary the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency, reveals that 28.1 per cent of all ’53-, ’04- and ’54-plated Meganes which underwent their first MOT test in 2007 failed that test.

That compares with 24.7 per cent of Peugeot 307s, which is identified in the data as the joint second most likely vehicle to fail an MOT at that age. The Vauxhall Corsa ranks joint second at a 24.7 per cent failure rate, while the Renault Scenic charted fourth with a 23 per cent failure rate.

The vehicles that proved least given to failing their first MOT in 2007 were the Toyota Corolla (11.2 per cent), the Honda Jazz (13.3 per cent) and the Honda Civic (14.1 per cent).

The data was issued under a Freedom of Information request submitted by the BBC, which has this morning collected it into a list and published it online.
Itu bukan kata saya, bukan kata tukang ngebual Darsono. Begitulah datanya.

Sekarang bro liat omongan tukang ngebual
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Mana buktinya?

Mestinya kan mikir...kalo mau jelek2in itu mbok ya jangan ketahuan merek mobil favoritnya Peugeot. Terlalu gampang ngebalesnya :mrgreen: , nggak perlu pake ngebual...tinggal copy paste aja :mrgreen:
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Ya itulah. Moso 28% gak lulus MOT. Terus gak jalan dong. Apa mungkin mobil baru fail uji emisi gituan. HAHAHAHA.

Copas sih boleh aja cuma yang wajar gitu.

Copas - copas tapi buktinya lain dng di lapangan. Ntar ada yg copas tangki bocor, malah protes, bilang itu di pilipina. Mobil hitam sering tabrakan, bingung pula. Sekalinya dirinya copas yg aneh2, ternyata gak ada buktinya. Tapi org dipaksa percaya.
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Gue sih suka Peugeot gak mikir reliabilitynya sih. Tapi mobilnya enak buat ngebut dan nyaman.
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asudarsono wrote:Ya itulah. Moso 28% gak lulus MOT. Terus gak jalan dong. Apa mungkin mobil baru fail uji emisi gituan. HAHAHAHA.

Copas sih boleh aja cuma yang wajar gitu.

Copas - copas tapi buktinya lain dng di lapangan. Ntar ada yg copas tangki bocor, malah protes, bilang itu di pilipina. Mobil hitam sering tabrakan, bingung pula. Sekalinya dirinya copas yg aneh2, ternyata gak ada buktinya. Tapi org dipaksa percaya.
Gak lulus bukan berarti gak jalan sama sekali - dipake sedikit itu nalar. Itu BBC yg keluarin laporan, jauh lebih pinter dari situ :mrgreen: baca angka aja gak bisa :mrgreen:

Tangki bocor dari forum - kalo di forum ada yg ngebual kaya situ kan susah
asudarsono wrote:Airbag, ABS mobil CKD emang banyak yg gak nyala.
Makanya saya cari dr sumber terpercaya (BBC). Gitu aja kok bingung, darsono darsono :mrgreen:
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Gak lulus MOT gak mungkin bisa jalan. Emang macam uji emisi dishub?
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asudarsono wrote:Gak lulus MOT kok bisa jalan. Emang macam uji emisi dishub? Jelas gue bingung. Jangan2 sekarang kamu yang bingung. Kalau sekarang belum bingung, berarti telmi. Jangan kawatir sebentar lagi kamu akan bingung kok.
Memang saya bingung, kok situ udah tua bangka masih gak bisa baca angka :mrgreen:
asudarsono wrote:Wheelbase dan panjang Peugeot emang lebih dari mobil Jepang sejenis. Sekarang juga lebih lebar
FortunerMan wrote: Toyota Camry
Wheelbase 2,776 mm
Length 4,805 mm (189.2 in)
Width 1,820 mm (71.7 in)
Height 1,470 mm (57.9 in)

Peugeot 407
Wheelbase 2,725 mm
Length Saloon: 4,676 mm (184.1 in)
Width Saloon: 1,811 mm (71.3 in)
Height Saloon: 1,445 mm (56.9 in)


Belon dibandingin Accord...lebih gede lagi...
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asudarsono wrote:Gak lulus MOT gak mungkin bisa jalan. Emang macam uji emisi dishub?
Pikir dulu sebelum ngomong :mrgreen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOT_test
When a vehicle fails the MOT test it can be re-tested at the same station for free, or a reduced price, up to the end of the next day for minor items (see the poster displayed at the test station) provided it is returned within a specific time period. If the vehicle remains at the test station for repair after failure then it can have a free re-test up to 10 working days after the original (the 10 days does not include weekends or bank holidays so the period is effectively about two weeks). If it is removed from the premises for repair and then returned before the end of 10 working days it can have a test at half the original fee paid.
Kalo gak tau jangan sok tau om :mrgreen:
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Kalau ini nggak masuk unreliable.
Models covered by the latest recall include the 2009 and 2010 RAV4; the 2009 and 2010 Corolla; the 2009 and 2010 Matrix; the 2005 to 2010 Avalon; the 2007 to 2010 Camry; the 2010 Highlander; the 2007 to 2010 Tundra; and the 2008 to 2010 Sequoia.

Toyota said its own investigation in recent months had found that some accelerator pedals on those Toyota brand models might stick in a partially depressed position or return slowly to idle. The problems could occur when the pedal mechanism becomes worn, it said.

"Toyota will continue to investigate incidents of unwanted acceleration and take appropriate measures to address any trends that are identified," it said in a statement.

As recently as November, Bob Carter, Toyota's U.S. brand chief, had said there was "no evidence" to support claims that the reported safety problems could be caused by anything other than loose floor mats interfering with the accelerator pedal.

Peugeot gak lulus MOT katanya, tapi tetep aja banyak yang jalan. Tapi Peugeot gak ada yang jalan sendiri.

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FortunerMan wrote:
asudarsono wrote:Gak lulus MOT gak mungkin bisa jalan. Emang macam uji emisi dishub?
Pikir dulu sebelum ngomong :mrgreen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOT_test
When a vehicle fails the MOT test it can be re-tested at the same station for free, or a reduced price, up to the end of the next day for minor items (see the poster displayed at the test station) provided it is returned within a specific time period. If the vehicle remains at the test station for repair after failure then it can have a free re-test up to 10 working days after the original (the 10 days does not include weekends or bank holidays so the period is effectively about two weeks). If it is removed from the premises for repair and then returned before the end of 10 working days it can have a test at half the original fee paid.
Kalo gak tau jangan sok tau om :mrgreen:
Tapi udah ngerti kan...ente NGAWUR lagi...apa perlu diterjemahin? :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:Kalau ini nggak masuk unreliable.
Peugeot gak lulus MOT katanya, tapi tetep aja banyak yang jalan. Tapi Peugeot gak ada yang jalan sendiri.

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Karena ini data Amerika, gak bisa baca ya..NHTSA data...Tau NHTSA dimana? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Nih tak kasi clue...Peugeot udah kabur gak bisa bersaing di negeri ini...

BMW aja ada...Mercedes aja ada...masa si bobrok Peugeot gak ada...sayangnya udah KABUR sih dr Amerika :mrgreen:
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terus aja nggak ada abis2nya, kayak yang punya pabrik aja nih berantemnya.
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bener kata om maskopat:
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ternyata 5008 ini punya nilai coefficient drag = 0.29
meski mpv tapi masih aerodinamis....... :e-clap:
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emang kenapa kalo 5008 aerodinamis? :e-think:
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