Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat - PART 02

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maskopat wrote:
toyotaman wrote:Total berita corporate toyota yang edan dari manca negara banyak sekali. Dari USA, Canada, Eropa, Jepang sangat banyak. Nanti pelan pelan kita baca deh beritanya.


Percaya atau ngak terserah masing masing, tapi Kompas lapornya sangat dikit, itupun cuman mengenai recall doang (ya tentu saja recall ngak haram kok ?), coba Kompas berani ngak lapor gimana toyota ganggu pemeriksaan pengadilan, gimana toyota seperti contoh tadi, bilang EDRnya jelek, ngak bisa di andalkan kalau hasilnya nunjuk mobilnya yang ngak benar, eh giliran EDRnya bilang supirnya yang bodoh, senyum deh bilang " Tu kan ? "


Jangan bilang ini urusan luar negeri, ngapain di lapor Kompas ? Kalau gitu ngapain Kompas ada bagian International, di mana gempa bumi di Afrika aja di bahas, menteri di Perancis memundurkan diri, gitu mah justru berita ngak penting.


Yang penting justru berita tentang perusahaan besar yang produknya banyak di pakai masyarakat. Misalnya kalau Nokia ada bikin kesalahan besar sampai HPnya radiasinya super besar, misalnya, seharusnya Kompas lapor ngak ? Meskipun misalnya model HP yang kasus itu ngak di jual di Indonesia, tapi wajar ngak kalau di laporkan ? Atau di tutup tutupi ?


Biar masyarakatlah yang menilai, tapi setidaknya berita gitu besar tentang perusahaan seperti toyota yang cukup besar di Indonesia, masa ngak di lapor bagian yang penting ? Wong berita sepele luar negeri aja sering di laporkan ?
ooohhh yaaa???? wwwoooowwww......
sbodo euyy toyota di luar negeri mo ancur kaya apa kek, pimpinan pusat nya mo gmana kek, toh jg mobil2 nya ga dijual atau diproduksi dsini... pokok nya slama ane pake toyota ane sendiri itu ok dan ga bermasalah mahh ngapain ane pusingin urusan orang atau negara laen... kcuali tuh ipah ane bermasalah yg ga wajar, baru dahh, bakal ane blow up ke media... gampang kann... :upss: :upss: :upss:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Si FM udah jinak. Gak ngeles2 kayak dulu. Kacian.

Dari produk Toyota di Indonesia, mana yang semua tipenya pakai AIRBAG :
Avanza ..... no
Inopah ...... no
Yaris ........ no
Camry ...... cuma depan, bini si FM gak kebagian.
Alphard .... ya, tapi gak bagus
Fortuner ... no
Rush ........ no
Vios ......... no (cuma sopir taxi ini)
Corolla ..... depan doank
Prius ....... airbag dari depan, asam sulfur dari belakang
Hilux ........ no
Dyna ....... hahahaha

no no no.

Gak apa2. Bendera kuning murah ini.
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FortunerMan wrote:http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010 ... -2010.html
USA Top 10 Best-Selling Cars: July 2010
1 Ford F-Series +38.9% 290,794 +34.7% 50,449
2 Toyota Camry -0.6% 189,297 +2.8% 35,058
3 Chevy Silverado +25.5% 201,446 +13.4% 34,664
4 Toyota Corolla -11.0% 167,846 +11.0% 27,345
5 Honda Accord* -17.9% 186,356 +15.9% 25,386
6 Honda Civic -25.5% 156,832 +5.6% 23,231
7 Chevy Malibu +33.4% 128,775 +41.3% 20,458
8 Dodge Ram +14.0% 105,007 -6.0% 20,138
9 Honda CR-V +0.9% 106,928 +9.0% 20,058
10 Nissan Altima -5.1% 130,390 +12.7%
Banyak masalah, ada toyotaman berkoar koar, pastinya toyota insentif gila2an nih buat jualannya...liat aja nih data...
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gm-kil ... -spending/
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:mrgreen:
Nissan may have broken its own incentive record last month, but it was GM that blew the lid off the competition. According to Edmunds’ True Cost Of Incentives Index, The General loaded up nearly $1,000 more in incentive spending compared to its closest competitors, and killed the industry average by $1,340. Combined, Detroit spent $1.7 billion, or 57.3 percent of the total incentive expenditures last month.
Yg bermasalah Toyota...kok yg lainnya pada pesta insentif..NISSAN juga? :mrgreen: REKOR tertinggi pula...hasilnya lumayan lah ya gak Sithlord...eh toyotaman. Masuk no.10 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Altima bagus kok, kuenceng :mrgreen:
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tanda2 tret bakal berkobar2 panas nehh... mana petugas firefighter nya pada kehalang macet pula... :e-doh: :e-doh:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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asudarsono wrote:Si FM udah jinak. Gak ngeles2 kayak dulu. Kacian.

Dari produk Toyota di Indonesia, mana yang semua tipenya pakai AIRBAG :
Avanza ..... no
Inopah ...... no
Yaris ........ no
Camry ...... cuma depan, bini si FM gak kebagian.
Alphard .... ya, tapi gak bagus
Fortuner ... no
Rush ........ no
Vios ......... no (cuma sopir taxi ini)
Corolla ..... depan doank
Prius ....... airbag dari depan, asam sulfur dari belakang
Hilux ........ no
Dyna ....... hahahaha

no no no.

Gak apa2. Bendera kuning murah ini.
Murah tapi ente sirik huahahahahha...gak mampu beli ya darsono? :mrgreen: Kita bisa lihat disini siriknya...omongannya udah salah semua.
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Baru juga 6 halaman. Rekor masih jauh.

General Motors kasih diskon duit, harga barang murah tapi tetep selamat
Toyota kasih diskon keselamatan, harga barang mahal dan gak selamat
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toyotaman wrote:(Kok jarang sekali dengar kasus serupa di merek lain ? Apakah pemakai merek lain mayoritas jauh lebih hati hati dalam urusan injak gas/ rem ?)
FortunerMan wrote:http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/nhtsa- ... ror-again/

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After NHTSA and the NRC “manually reviewed” the complaints (theoretically winnowing out fraudulent claims), Toyota starts looking even better by comparison. Before October of 2009, Toyota’s UA complaints were on-par with GM and Chrysler, and actually lagged behind Ford. Only post October 2009, when the media-fueled scandal started to take off, did Toyota’s UA complaints start getting out of hand. So, what can we conclude from this?


Jarang denger ya toyotaman? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Kupingnya cuman dengerin toyota aja kali ya :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :drinking:
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FortunerMan wrote:
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So, what can we conclude from this?


We can conclude Peugeot gak pernah UA.
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asudarsono wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:
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So, what can we conclude from this?


We can conclude Peugeot gak pernah UA.
Karena Peugeot tidak laku dan sudah kabur dari Amerika. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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a. Peugeot gak pernah UA, Toyota sampai ribuan
b. Mobil Peugeot pasti lengkap airbagnya, Toyota cuma jadi hiasan
c. Harga Peugeot murah tapi fasilitas lengkap, Toyota mahal dan downspec
d. Peugeot irit, Toyota boros
e. dst dst.
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asudarsono wrote:a. Peugeot gak pernah UA, Toyota sampai ribuan
b. Mobil Peugeot pasti lengkap airbagnya, Toyota cuma jadi hiasan
c. Harga Peugeot murah tapi fasilitas lengkap, Toyota mahal dan downspec
d. Peugeot irit, Toyota boros
e. dst dst.

f. Peugeot gak laku, Toyota laku
:big_weee:

http://www.connexionfrance.com/french-c ... ticle.html
Drivers question French car quality
February 19, 2010

THE RELIABILITY of French cars has been called into question in an international survey of drivers.

Almost a quarter of a million motorists in France, Germany, Switzerland, Brazil and China were asked to name the makes of vehicle they trusted the most.

Even in France, where the survey was carried out by L'Automobile magazine, only 22% of respondents named French brands Citroën, Renault or Peugeot spontaneously when asked for a reliable make of car.

Japanese brands scored best in France - at 67% - followed by German makes including Audi and BMW at 48%.

Respondents in other countries had a similar opinion of French cars: with between 25% and 32% of people considering them reliable.

The survey of 220,000 motorists was carried out by the Motor Presse group, which publishes car magazines around the world.
Ooo...pantes gak laku kalo gitu... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:a. Peugeot gak pernah UA, Toyota sampai ribuan
b. Mobil Peugeot pasti lengkap airbagnya, Toyota cuma jadi hiasan
c. Harga Peugeot murah tapi fasilitas lengkap, Toyota mahal dan downspec
d. Peugeot irit, Toyota boros
e. dst dst.
Mobil selanjutnya FM adalah Chery. Kacian, dia cuma bisa ikut2an aja.

Jumlah mobil diproduksi :
China 13.790 ribu
Japan 7.934 ribu


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... production

Zuuuut, Cina bukan AS, buhuhuhu. Kenapa orang Amrik gak pernah masukin mobil Cina dalam statistiknya, buhuhuhu. Kenapa FM mau - muanya jadi jongos bule2 AS
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asudarsono wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:
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So, what can we conclude from this?


We can conclude Peugeot gak pernah UA.
Gimana mau udah UA, udah kabur dr thn 91. Thn 93 udah pada parkir tuh mobil (alias rusak :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/08/07/busin ... -peug.html
Peugeot To Pull Out Of Market In the U.S.
The spokesman blamed the competition between American and Japanese automakers in the U.S. market for the failure of the 405.
Kasian...gak bisa bersaing
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asudarsono wrote:Kenapa orang Amrik gak pernah masukin mobil Cina dalam statistiknya, buhuhuhu. Kenapa FM mau - muanya jadi jongos bule2 AS
Karena itu hanya statistik mobil yg dijual di Amerika. PEUGEOT gak bisa bersaing di Amerika :big_weee: :big_weee: Iyalah, jalan aja susah, gimana mau bersaing :mrgreen:
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Hihihi, FM gak bisa nunjukin Peugeot kena UA di mana pun.

Kalau Toyota sih ....... banyak
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asudarsono wrote:Hihihi, FM gak bisa nunjukin Peugeot kena UA di mana pun.

Kalau Toyota sih ....... banyak
Nggak peduli sih saya ama mobil jelek. Orang prancis aja ogah :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Cek dulu, mobil masa depanmu si Chery QQ pernah UA nggak..... Atau mau langsung pakai TATA NANO......

Tuh mobil laku deh. Cocok buat FM
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asudarsono wrote:Cek dulu, mobil masa depanmu si Chery QQ pernah UA nggak..... Atau mau langsung pakai TATA NANO......

Tuh mobil laku deh. Cocok buat FM
Yg penting CBU lah...
asudarsono wrote:Airbag, ABS mobil CKD emang banyak yg gak nyala.
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FortunerMan wrote: Yg penting CBU lah...
asudarsono wrote:Airbag, ABS mobil CKD emang banyak yg gak nyala.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Hihihi, ABS gak nyala, airbag gak nyala, UA jalan terus, asal CBU. Hahaha CBU Thailand.
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asudarsono wrote:
FortunerMan wrote: Yg penting CBU lah...
asudarsono wrote:Airbag, ABS mobil CKD emang banyak yg gak nyala.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Hihihi, ABS gak nyala, airbag gak nyala, UA jalan terus, asal CBU. Hahaha CBU Thailand.
Drpada CBU prancis...jelek katanya. Pantesan aja gak laku :mrgreen:
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toyotaman wrote:(Kok jarang sekali dengar kasus serupa di merek lain ? Apakah pemakai merek lain mayoritas jauh lebih hati hati dalam urusan injak gas/ rem ?)
FortunerMan wrote:http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/nhtsa- ... ror-again/

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After NHTSA and the NRC “manually reviewed” the complaints (theoretically winnowing out fraudulent claims), Toyota starts looking even better by comparison. Before October of 2009, Toyota’s UA complaints were on-par with GM and Chrysler, and actually lagged behind Ford. Only post October 2009, when the media-fueled scandal started to take off, did Toyota’s UA complaints start getting out of hand


Jarang denger ya toyotaman? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Kupingnya cuman dengerin toyota aja kali ya :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :drinking: Sama aja kaya si darsono :mrgreen:
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Hihihi cuma katanya...... Buktinya?

Hihihi mana bisa FM lihatin buktinya.
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jah berantem lagi.... :e-doh:
Dark Brownies with Cappuccino
Red and Gold
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asudarsono wrote:Dari produk Toyota di Indonesia, mana yang semua tipenya pakai AIRBAG :
Avanza ..... no
Inopah ...... no
Yaris ........ no
Camry ...... cuma depan, bini si FM gak kebagian.
Alphard .... ya, tapi gak bagus
Fortuner ... no
Rush ........ no
Vios ......... no (cuma sopir taxi ini)
Corolla ..... depan doank
Prius ....... airbag dari depan, asam sulfur dari belakang
Hilux ........ no
Dyna ....... hahahaha
Salah lagi...Fortuner semua ada airbag...Altis semua ada airbag, Camry 3.5 ada side airbag :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Salah melulu ya darsono :mrgreen: Airbag Alphard gak bagus...ngebual lagi :mrgreen:
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coba deh, liatin airbagnya alphard kalau emang bagus.
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