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mungkin ada yg bisa menjelaskan secara teknis, kenapa performa mesin L15 ivtec di an jazz dengan freed kok jauh beda...??? :e-think:
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nambahin
8. MID,ABS+EBD+BA,Dual airbag,Pretensioner belt with load limiter,Green glass (ga tau innova udah ada belum),wave key,immobiliser,PSD,auto lock by speed,head unit lebih advance walau ga keliatan siang hari terus yang ga kalah penting tuas kompor AC wkwkwk.. :big_peace:

@bro jalu..Sebenernya mesin sama persis..Cuma engine ditune (ECU terutama) buat ngeluarin torsi lebih gede jadi 146 nm..Nah permasalahan lemotnya akselerasi bukan diteknis mesin lebih di faktor selain mesin yaitu..Coefficient drag (hambatan udara) freed gede banget dibanding jazz (karena bentuk cenderung mengotak),berat kosong freed juga lumayan tinggi (akibat body bongsor ga kebayang juga kan kalo isi 7 penumpang),transmisi matic pula,makanya kalo ada freed manual kayaknya agresif juga deh.. :frm_tumbleft:
Note: Tapi ane pernah tuh liat freed lagi full speed dalkot kenceng juga kok..Asal dimainin giginya (kickdown)..he2
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kalo asumsi saya yg awam...nampaknya setup ecu di freed ini lbh mengutamakan efisiensi, dr beberapa testimoni pemilik disini umumnya menyatakan bahwa konsumsinya cukup baik, karena efisiensi itu mungkin performanya sedikit dikorbankan.

silahkan koreksi kalo asumsi ini keliru.....
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Di porum tetangga ada tuh freed yg hanya dimodif bagian intake + muffler bisa mentok speedometernya (180 km/h).....:e-snooty: :e-snooty:
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Freed temen diganti air filternya pake K&N punya trus tambah throttle control dijamin ngacir, nggak ngeden lg, jangankan ipah diesel ipah bensin manual jg bisa dilibas, apalagi kalo beli yg satu set K&N nya, iVTEC gitu lho :big_smoking:
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Jovan wrote:Freed temen diganti air filternya pake K&N punya trus tambah throttle control dijamin ngacir, nggak ngeden lg, jangankan ipah diesel ipah bensin manual jg bisa dilibas, apalagi kalo beli yg satu set K&N nya, iVTEC gitu lho :big_smoking:
Kalo cuma ganti K&N nya doang banyak yang bilang malah ngempos.. enakan pake filter standar.. jadi yang paling ngaruh ya throttle controllernya.. dengan sisi lain jadi boros (throttle controller fungsinya kan... yaa gitu.... pijakan 50%=75% contohnya)

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jalu wrote:kalo asumsi saya yg awam...nampaknya setup ecu di freed ini lbh mengutamakan efisiensi, dr beberapa testimoni pemilik disini umumnya menyatakan bahwa konsumsinya cukup baik, karena efisiensi itu mungkin performanya sedikit dikorbankan.

silahkan koreksi kalo asumsi ini keliru.....
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@bro hansen bisa dikasih linknya bro??PM aja juga ga apa2
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http://honda-indonesia.com/newsview.php?id=406
Emang ya honda banyak dimaki tapi banyak dipuji juga.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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AD74YA wrote:
jalu wrote:kalo asumsi saya yg awam...nampaknya setup ecu di freed ini lbh mengutamakan efisiensi, dr beberapa testimoni pemilik disini umumnya menyatakan bahwa konsumsinya cukup baik, karena efisiensi itu mungkin performanya sedikit dikorbankan.

silahkan koreksi kalo asumsi ini keliru.....
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hoo kalo itu betul..IMO lbh baik stright pake Dastek + TM aja kalo gt, mapping diset ulang & throttle response dibikin lbh gesit...meski misalkan efeknya jadi boros dikit gak kenapa2 toh cuma 1500cc..... :e-whistle:
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aldy wrote:nambahin
8. MID,ABS+EBD+BA,Dual airbag,Pretensioner belt with load limiter,Green glass (ga tau innova udah ada belum),wave key,immobiliser,PSD,auto lock by speed,head unit lebih advance walau ga keliatan siang hari terus yang ga kalah penting tuas kompor AC wkwkwk..
Emang bener2 lengkap FITUR2 nya si HONDA Freed ini yaa...hehehehehehe... :e-clap:
Tapi yg gua lihat dan bandingkan secara langsung adalah 8 item yg gua sebut itu. Secara orang awam kayak gua akan langsung "notice" terhadap perbedaan nyata keduanya.

Saat ini gua lagi tunggu "the best offer" dari para penjual HF ini, secara apa yg mereka offer belum bisa membuat gua tersenyum. 8 Kondisi yg gua sebutin itu juga gua share kepada para penjaja HF. Sehingga mereka masih janjiin bisa kasih disc. lebih baik dari 21 jt., dgn cara melobi para bos mereka katanya. FYI. kalo ambil kredit, diskon 24 jt udah pasti dikasih katanya.
Thanks berat buat Kakak Pembina yg udah kasih bocoran disc. yg menginspirasi gua utk push para marketing executive dealer Honda... :frm_salut:
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Tambah info lagi sedikit:
Ipah G bensin luxury A/T setelah disc. 10 jt jadi 233.1 jt
Freed PSD [lengkap dengan FITUR2 nya] setelah disc. 21 jt jadi 237.5 jt.

Jadi Kalo freed disc.nya ditambah 4 jt lagi...hemmm...jadilah harganya sama...xixixixixixixi... :e-pray:
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Debiyarto wrote:Tambah info lagi sedikit:
Ipah G bensin luxury A/T setelah disc. 10 jt jadi 233.1 jt
Freed PSD [lengkap dengan FITUR2 nya] setelah disc. 21 jt jadi 237.5 jt.

Jadi Kalo freed disc.nya ditambah 4 jt lagi...hemmm...jadilah harganya sama...xixixixixixixi... :e-pray:
om Debyr....coba lbh intens lg negosiasi freed nya...
sebab barusan temen sales honda kasi info tutup bulan april ini freed diskon 28 jt... :e-dance:
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aldy wrote:@bro hansen bisa dikasih linknya bro??PM aja juga ga apa2
ini bro saya tampilkan ajah gambarnya..... :big_smoking:

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numpang pinjem potonya yah buat pemilik foto ini..... :big_peace:
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jalu wrote:
Debiyarto wrote:Tambah info lagi sedikit:
Ipah G bensin luxury A/T setelah disc. 10 jt jadi 233.1 jt
Freed PSD [lengkap dengan FITUR2 nya] setelah disc. 21 jt jadi 237.5 jt.

Jadi Kalo freed disc.nya ditambah 4 jt lagi...hemmm...jadilah harganya sama...xixixixixixixi... :e-pray:
om Debyr....coba lbh intens lg negosiasi freed nya...
sebab barusan temen sales honda kasi info tutup bulan april ini freed diskon 28 jt... :e-dance:
Maksudnya diakhir april ini atau setelah tutup bulan april (bulan mei) ??
Mohon konfirmasinya.. :e-snooty:

Aje gile 28 juta tuh ditawarin ke gua utk unit NIK 2009. Boleh tahu sumbernya nggak?? Kakak pembina kan baik hati...hehehehehehehe.... :big_peace:
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oke om semua udah diinfo via PM.
tapi ngemeng2 salut jg nih sm om debyar.....salesnya bisa kasi disc. nyaris 30 jt ke om debyar.....bener2 negosiator kawakan nih..... :e-clap: :e-clap:
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Mantap Om Debi...kedipin dikit salesnya bisa gratis tuh mobil :mrgreen:
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jalu wrote:oke om semua udah diinfo via PM.
tapi ngemeng2 salut jg nih sm om debyar.....salesnya bisa kasi disc. nyaris 30 jt ke om debyar.....bener2 negosiator kawakan nih..... :e-clap: :e-clap:
tentunya semua terjadi atas bimbingan dan arahan kakak pembina.... :thanks:
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FortunerMan wrote:Mantap Om Debi...kedipin dikit salesnya bisa gratis tuh mobil :mrgreen:
kalo salesnya Asmirandah hemmmm........ mungkin juga kali yee...... :big_smoking:
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weits.....apa2an ini....kok nama asmirandah dibawa2 kemari...... :e-snooty: :e-snooty:
kalo asmirandah kerja di honda...bisa2 direbut sm jonfis tuh........... :upss:
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Hi Jalu...

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hallo FortunerMan.....

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Jovan wrote:Freed temen diganti air filternya pake K&N punya trus tambah throttle control dijamin ngacir, nggak ngeden lg, jangankan ipah diesel ipah bensin manual jg bisa dilibas,
Begitu yah om ?

Udah test drive Ipah D4 D versi member Innova Community belom om ? :mrgreen:

Sy aja pake CR-V gen.3 2.0 i-VTEC kalo ketemu Ipah D4 D Full spec mendingan saya minggir......serius.......
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jalu wrote: hoo kalo itu betul..IMO lbh baik stright pake Dastek + TM aja kalo gt, mapping diset ulang & throttle response dibikin lbh gesit...meski misalkan efeknya jadi boros dikit gak kenapa2 toh cuma 1500cc..... :e-whistle:
Bisa consider juga :
- AIC
- Ganti down pipe mesin L15A ini

Permasahan klasik mesin Gasoline NA adalah lemahnya Torsi @ RPM rendah.......AIC aka teknik pendinginan intake dgn Evap akan meningkatkan kepadatan udara yg masuk mesin, sekaligus suhu udara masuk yg lebih sejuk, membuat timing pengapian bisa maju & Torsi @ RPM rendah improve.

Sehabis install AIC barulah install Piggyback / retune Dastek......maka hasil akan lebih maksimal......
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Turboman wrote:
jalu wrote: hoo kalo itu betul..IMO lbh baik stright pake Dastek + TM aja kalo gt, mapping diset ulang & throttle response dibikin lbh gesit...meski misalkan efeknya jadi boros dikit gak kenapa2 toh cuma 1500cc..... :e-whistle:
Bisa consider juga :
- AIC
- Ganti down pipe mesin L15A ini

Permasahan klasik mesin Gasoline NA adalah lemahnya Torsi @ RPM rendah.......AIC aka teknik pendinginan intake dgn Evap akan meningkatkan kepadatan udara yg masuk mesin, sekaligus suhu udara masuk yg lebih sejuk, membuat timing pengapian bisa maju & Torsi @ RPM rendah improve.

Sehabis install AIC barulah install Piggyback / retune Dastek......maka hasil akan lebih maksimal......
AIC tuh di pasaran merek dan tipenya apa?? Emang udah ada buat H. Freed dan kira2 berapa tuh harganya??
Dan lagi seberapa efisien bisa angkat torque akibat udara dingin ini masuk ke ruang bakar?
Katanya bisa break warranty buat mobil anyar....

Thanks yaa bro Turboman....

BTW., gua aja pake d4d walau gak full spec banget udah sering "ngasepin" mobil2 yg pecicilan di tol cikampek...hehehehehehe...
ini duarius loh....