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mumpung lagi ngomongin mobil kenceng, TRD terlibat gak ya dalam design 2 mobil ini?
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GTR wrote:Yamaha develop mesin sports toyota hi-rev terutama akhiran seri G- seperti GE,
Betul sekali

Since 1986 cap Yamaha udah ditemukan di timing belt cover mesin2 DOHC Toyota spt 3S-GE & 4A-GE, dulu lihat mesin2 tsb di Roma Motor - RaDal.

Buat si Triple Ellips ngembangin mesin V10 ini sih bukan hal sulit, secara mereka udah sering produksi mesin2 V8 DOHC ukuran besar (4600 - 5000 cc) juga mesin V12 yg nemplok di Toyota Century.

IMHO:
Biasanya dari yg sudah2, super sport car keluaran negeri Samurai lebih "user friendly" dari produk2 serupa buatan negeri Pizza / Bratwurst.

Biasanya mereka membuat super sport car yg juga enak yg utk dipakai sehari hari, termasuk stop & go di kemacetan.

Kayaknya si Toyota bikin Lexus LF-A ini utk "Anchor product" / Flagship - symbol, dgn adanya si Icon maka diharapkan dapat meningkatkan image & mem-boost penjualan seri2 Lexus sport coupe / sport car Toyota lainnya.

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Yamaha sudah kontribusi ke mobil sport toyota jauh sebelum 86an, sejak taon 60an di Toyota 2000GT. cmiiw.
konon saat itu design mesin yamaha ditolak sama nissan, pindah ke lain hati ke toyota, diterima buat 2000GT.
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FortunerMan wrote:11-12M lah....bungkus :P
Gile hrgnya segitu mending ambil brand Lamborghini / Ferrari.
Ferrari F430 aja 5,7M :e-think:
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keren nih FT86nya.. Walaupun lebih mirip keluarga celica dibanding Corolla Trueno.

Coba modelnya dibikin sportback, jd lebih mirip AE86.. :big_slap:
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AD74YA wrote:Toyota FT-86 masuk di kelas apa?

350Z? atau EVO atau GTR?

Harganya berapa y? ada yang tau?
speknya belum ada ya?
bukan 350z dan gtr, ini cikal bakal new celica.
Di bawah Celica kayaknya, krn outputnya mesinnya juga lebih rendah. Kalau di bawah 2M mah, bisa rame tuh. Paling nggak bisa ngiler kalau harga sekelas Mr 2.
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Beuuuh....bentuknya sadisss....
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mandala1 wrote:Beuuuh....bentuknya sadisss....
beeuuh.. bentuk sadis tapi tetap aja boyota... di circuit top gear aja LF-A masih kalah dengan lambo, ferrari, porsche...
dan si LF-A cuman menang 2 detik daripada evo X FQ400... tampang oke, tapi kemampuan...??

nanti ada yang bilang, "kan LF-A cobanya lagi kondisi jalanan basah"... padalah very wet ke dry paling lebih cepat 3 detik... :ngacir:

FT-86??? body doang yang keren... performa? kita tunggu aja.. :e-whistle:
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FT-86 kemungkinan besar memakai mesin boxer yg 2,0l atau 2,5l. Kalau gitu, paling dapetnya 300 HP. Kalau pun mau langsung spec C juga dapet cuma 500 HP, tapi berapa orang pembeli sih mau yg mode balap gitu? Dus saingannya bukan GTR apalagi supercar yg mahal2 itu. Saingannya kayaknya Golf GTI dkk. Mainnya nanti bukan di performance tapi di cost. FT-86 (dan Golf GTI) ini bisa lho ngasepin beberapa tipe Porsche (terutama yg nggak ada turbonya). Maunya performance Porsche tapi harga jauh di bawah semilyar rupiah. Porsche harganya? M3? Jag? MINI? .... gitulah FT-86 itu bukan untuk balapan tapi untuk ngebut.

Lexus LFA juga cuma 550 HP dibanding GTR yang 480 HP. Yah mirip2lah. Kalau sampai di sirkuit Top Gear kalah ama GTR, ya silahkan tanya kenapa.
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maskopat wrote:beeuuh.. bentuk sadis tapi tetap aja boyota... di circuit top gear aja LF-A masih kalah dengan lambo, ferrari, porsche...
dan si LF-A cuman menang 2 detik daripada evo X FQ400... tampang oke, tapi kemampuan...??
Boyota ... hahahahaha, I like that !

Jaman dulu sih fanatik ama Boyota (sampe pernah sekeluarga punya 7 Boyota). Lama2 cape juga, kagak ada mobil sport-nya yg kenceng. Isinya sedans, econoboxes, SUVs dan crossovers (plus skrg banyak trucks juga). Banting haluan ke Mitsubishi (2.0l turbo), tapi ya begitulah, mesinnya kecil2 amat :D Skrg keluar LF-A, yg bisa beli cuma di top 0.000001% di seluruh dunia. Prediksi gw sih, yg namanya FT-86 bakalan boyot juga.
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waktu saya msh makan bangku sekolah..boyota yg ini cukup disegani...

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maskopat wrote:
mandala1 wrote:Beuuuh....bentuknya sadisss....
beeuuh.. bentuk sadis tapi tetap aja boyota... di circuit top gear aja LF-A masih kalah dengan lambo, ferrari, porsche...
dan si LF-A cuman menang 2 detik daripada evo X FQ400... tampang oke, tapi kemampuan...??

nanti ada yang bilang, "kan LF-A cobanya lagi kondisi jalanan basah"... padalah very wet ke dry paling lebih cepat 3 detik... :ngacir:

FT-86??? body doang yang keren... performa? kita tunggu aja.. :e-whistle:
Beli mobil bukan cuman cari yg paling kenceng doang. Kalo iya pasti org beli Corvette semua - gak ada yg beli Ferrari. Tapi Corvette banyak konotasi negatifnya di Amerika...sedangkan Ferrari se-xy speed. Coba pake Ferrari vs Corvette ZR-1...beda tipis kencengnya, yg jelas gak sebanding perbedaan harganya. Tapi pamornya...jauh, apalagi sama Lancer pake steroid :mrgreen:
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jalu wrote:waktu saya msh makan bangku sekolah..boyota yg ini cukup disegani...
ngerrri kali kakak pembina ini, bangku sekolah pun dimakan......debus yaaa... :big_weee:
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Abu2 wrote:
jalu wrote:waktu saya msh makan bangku sekolah..boyota yg ini cukup disegani...
ngerrri kali kakak pembina ini, bangku sekolah pun dimakan......debus yaaa... :big_weee:

tapi sekarang dah gak makan bangku sekolah.......tapi gedung sekolah, jalan jembatan.....xixixi,,,,,,,(emang rekanan pemda apa......)

:big_peace: bro jalu....
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pamor apa dulu nih? pamor kenceng, gengsi atau untuk collector item?

kalo cuman untuk gengsi, sepertinya sia2 teknologi yang ada di LF-A... kenapa gak bikin blok mesin titanium alloy ya? trus body pake serat kevlar.. kabel2 pake emas. kaca dari intan utuh... ornamen yang mengkilap pake platina atau emas... beeuuh.... mantap tuh... high tech and precious... :frm_tumbright:
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Biasanya semuanya masuk hitungan. Kenceng, technology showcase, gengsi, collector item.
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abrof wrote:
Abu2 wrote:
jalu wrote:waktu saya msh makan bangku sekolah..boyota yg ini cukup disegani...
ngerrri kali kakak pembina ini, bangku sekolah pun dimakan......debus yaaa... :big_weee:

tapi sekarang dah gak makan bangku sekolah.......tapi gedung sekolah, jalan jembatan.....xixixi,,,,,,,(emang rekanan pemda apa......)

:big_peace: bro jalu....
waduh..br ditinggal makan sate ternyata saya udah dihujat makan segala rupa...emangnya rayap....... :big_weee: :big_weee:

tuh celica gt4 difoto waktu saya macih cekolah sembalapnya itu mas carlos sainz....pesaing terdekatnya yaitu mang juha kankunnen pake Lancia :upss: :upss:
maskopat wrote:pamor apa dulu nih? pamor kenceng, gengsi atau untuk collector item?

kalo cuman untuk gengsi, sepertinya sia2 teknologi yang ada di LF-A... kenapa gak bikin blok mesin titanium alloy ya? trus body pake serat kevlar.. kabel2 pake emas. kaca dari intan utuh... ornamen yang mengkilap pake platina atau emas... beeuuh.... mantap tuh... high tech and precious... :frm_tumbright:
mas2....kalo pesen mbl kyk gini ke pengrajin aja, sekalian dasbornya ukir2an dr kayu jati.....sarung jok nya dari batik tulis :mrgreen:
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jalu wrote:mas2....kalo pesen mbl kyk gini ke pengrajin aja, sekalian dasbornya ukir2an dr kayu jati.....sarung jok nya dari batik tulis :mrgreen:
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iya euy... ane pernah ketemu salah satu website. mereka pengrajin custom.. kita kasih spek, dia bikinin.. apapun... :frm_salut:

kalo bisa bikin mobil kayak yang ane sebutin, beeuh... mantep euy... LF-A di-custom... :ngacir:
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jalu wrote: mas2....kalo pesen mbl kyk gini ke pengrajin aja, sekalian dasbornya ukir2an dr kayu jati.....sarung jok nya dari batik tulis :mrgreen:

wakakkkakakaka :mrgreen:

SL nya mas Kopat tuh mau di custom kaleee :big_weee:
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Abu2 wrote:
jalu wrote: mas2....kalo pesen mbl kyk gini ke pengrajin aja, sekalian dasbornya ukir2an dr kayu jati.....sarung jok nya dari batik tulis :mrgreen:

wakakkkakakaka :mrgreen:

SL nya mas Kopat tuh mau di custom kaleee :big_weee:
hush, mana boleh dashboard dari kayu jati.. kita sekarang lagi go green. jadi hindari penggunaan bahan alami.. kecuali makanan...
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maskopat wrote:
mandala1 wrote:Beuuuh....bentuknya sadisss....
beeuuh.. bentuk sadis tapi tetap aja boyota... di circuit top gear aja LF-A masih kalah dengan lambo, ferrari, porsche...
dan si LF-A cuman menang 2 detik daripada evo X FQ400... tampang oke, tapi kemampuan...??

nanti ada yang bilang, "kan LF-A cobanya lagi kondisi jalanan basah"... padalah very wet ke dry paling lebih cepat 3 detik...
Kalo yg gak sentimen, seperti org Top Gear bilang...ini fastest wet lap ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NScF4J1dD9k
Jadi kalo bilang ini mobil "boyo"...yah, :mrgreen:

Mahal? Ya, sangat - karena selain buat kenceng, Toyota juga menggunakan mobil ini buat engineering exercise buat mobil2 masa depannya - an engineer's wet dream kalo kata http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jImg5lv_OmA Sekaligus berusaha mengangkat nama "Lexus" yg terkenal boring.

Boyo? Org Top Gear aja nggak bilang boyo :mrgreen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jImg5lv_OmA

FT-86 dirancang sebagai sports car affordable seperti Nissan Z atau Hyundai Genesis Coupe, bukan supercar. Harganya paling2 se-Camry.
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FortunerMan wrote:Kalo yg gak sentimen, seperti org Top Gear bilang...ini fastest wet lap ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NScF4J1dD9k
Jadi kalo bilang ini mobil "boyo"...yah, :mrgreen:

Mahal? Ya, sangat - karena selain buat kenceng, Toyota juga menggunakan mobil ini buat engineering exercise buat mobil2 masa depannya - an engineer's wet dream kalo kata http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jImg5lv_OmA Sekaligus berusaha mengangkat nama "Lexus" yg terkenal boring.

Boyo? Org Top Gear aja nggak bilang boyo :mrgreen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jImg5lv_OmA

FT-86 dirancang sebagai sports car affordable seperti Nissan Z atau Hyundai Genesis Coupe, bukan supercar. Harganya paling2 se-Camry.
the fastest in the wet... yah kalo dry, kira2 nambah 3 detik lah... atau kita tunggu aja kalo dry... :e-whistle:
siapa tahu kalo dry bisa 5 detik lebih cepat.. kalo iya, teknologi drivetrainnya masih belum mumpuni untuk trek wet...

btw, suara mesinnya koq halus banget yak..?? :e-think:
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Kalo nambah 3 detik berarti jauh lebih kenceng dr Audi R8 V10, Porsche GT3, dll...yg waktu DRY nya hanya berbeda 0 koma sekian detik dr LF-A dalam keadaan WET :P

Boyo?
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