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seneng saya baca penjelasan bro poeticmind. . . kadang2 barang jadi mahal hanya karena nama besarnya aja. padahal mutunya sudah ga sebagus dulu. . . . dan ada juga barang yg kita pandang sebelah mata, setelah dipakai ternyata mempunyai mutu diatas harganya. . .

kalau di handtool yg perbandingan harga dgn kualitas paling baik, apa ya? buat konsumsi rumahan (bukan industrial) tetep dipegang KWT, cap mata (eye brand) dan tekiro kali ya? minimal buat kunci pas dan kunci socket..

dan setelah dipikir2, kita ga bisa pukul rata bahwa suatu merk dapat bagus di semua jenis karena kadang2 mereka tidak membuat sendiri -handtoolnya- tapi di subkontrak ke produsen oem. . . contoh paling gampang krisbow. . setahu saya, krisbow tidak membuat sendiri barang2nya. . .

masalah lifetime waranty, ada yang pernah benar2 klaim dan mencoba lifetime waranty kaga? bener2 terbukti kaga sih??

kalau saya pernah mencoba tapi bukan lifetime, hanya 25thn waranty. . di merk leatherman. . . dan terbukti di ganti baru, dgn model yang lebih baik, karena tipe yang saya klaim sudah tidak diproduksi. . .
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Wah.. handtoolnya bagus2 euy. Sy mah punyanya cuma tekiro ma sellery. Tp ga terlalu brand minded sih. Yg penting gampang didapat dan enak dipakainya. Kalu krisbow cuma bagus packingnya doank.
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y_anjasrana wrote:Wah.. handtoolnya bagus2 euy. Sy mah punyanya cuma tekiro ma sellery. Tp ga terlalu brand minded sih. Yg penting gampang didapat dan enak dipakainya. Kalu krisbow cuma bagus packingnya doank.
n sesuai dg kebutuhan.......klo kerjanya ga terlalu berat, merk tekiro n sellery cukupan bro......
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y_anjasrana wrote:Wah.. handtoolnya bagus2 euy. Sy mah punyanya cuma tekiro ma sellery. Tp ga terlalu brand minded sih. Yg penting gampang didapat dan enak dipakainya. Kalu krisbow cuma bagus packingnya doank.
oh gak begitu, oom... kalo diperhatiin krisbow ada yg value kualitas biasa2 sama yg kualitas bagus, mahal lho... malah utk beberapa artikel, tools nya lumayan kepake di bengkel2 lokal... artinya cukup diminati.
seperti yg oom bilang, krisbow itu termasuk gampang didapat. kalo oom iseng minta katalog krisbow utk tools nya, bisa setebal buku telpon jakarta. :)

beda sama koh sjamsul, ga pernah beli krisbow... soalnya yg punya temen nya.. wakakaka! :ngacir:

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sjamsul wrote:iseng2 ah mejeng koleksi hand tools nyang biasa ane pake waktu di kampung.............
wah-2 om sjamsul mantep bener ya koleksinya. tinggal tambah chainsaw. :upss:
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gioprivatemove wrote:
sjamsul wrote:iseng2 ah mejeng koleksi hand tools nyang biasa ane pake waktu di kampung.............
wah-2 om sjamsul mantep bener ya koleksinya. tinggal tambah chainsaw. :upss:
tengkyu bro.....ga mau ahhh, krn chainsaw ane ga kepake, tp klo jigsaw ane ada, buat iseng2 bikin boks..... hehehe.......
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wah jigsaw yg rekomen apa koh sjam? ... :e-think:
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poeticmind wrote:wah jigsaw yg rekomen apa koh sjam? ... :e-think:
apakah maksud dik romy itu merknya ya........ :e-think: .....

klo bener, ane ga tau dik...... tp ane pakenya merk makita......krn lbh awet (kata yg jual lohhhh).......... :upss: .....
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jigsaw merek Stihl ada gak ya?
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sjamsul wrote:
poeticmind wrote:wah jigsaw yg rekomen apa koh sjam? ... :e-think:
apakah maksud dik romy itu merknya ya........ :e-think: .....

klo bener, ane ga tau dik...... tp ane pakenya merk makita......krn lbh awet (kata yg jual lohhhh).......... :upss: .....
wah... kirain koh sjam pake metabo... :upss:

@wan abu: ada dong, bu... pura2 nanya ini... :e-snooty:
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sjamsul wrote:
poeticmind wrote:wah jigsaw yg rekomen apa koh sjam? ... :e-think:
apakah maksud dik romy itu merknya ya........ :e-think: .....

klo bener, ane ga tau dik...... tp ane pakenya merk makita......krn lbh awet (kata yg jual lohhhh).......... :upss: .....
merk sih banyak meneer...
tapi, saya perhatikan ada 2 perbedaan utama diantara banyak merk itu, cara pasang mata gergajinya.
ada yg pakai sistim "klip" (lebih mudah dan efisien) dan pakai baut (agak ribet), kalo gasalah yang pakai baut tu merk Makita
beberapa merk yg pernah dipake di tempat kerja:

-AEG (tangguh, tapi spare part setengah mati, sekarang pensiun)
-Makita (cepet panas kalau dipakai kontinyu kerja berat)
-Black&Decker (manja, cocok buat hobby tapi ga tangguh)
-Bosch (agak manja kalo dipake buat kerja/professional....)
-Metabo (tangguh tapi spare part juga repot)
-Dewalt --> tangguh, ini rekomendasi saya, IMHO
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saya adanya polisher dewalt,, reccomend ga yah? :roll:
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nescafe wrote:saya adanya polisher dewalt,, reccomend ga yah? :roll:
hmmm..... klo ane ga tau nes........krn belon pernah pake merk tsb........ :shrug:
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nescafe wrote:saya adanya polisher dewalt,, reccomend ga yah? :roll:
ane jg sejenis... :big_peace:
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gioprivatemove wrote:
nescafe wrote:saya adanya polisher dewalt,, reccomend ga yah? :roll:
ane jg sejenis... :big_peace:
khan keracunan ente... :mrgreen: ... :drinking: :drinking:
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Kalu powertool branded mahal bgt yak. Ane mah cukup yg murah meriah tapi ga pegel. Kyk fujiyama buat sander n ryota utk jigsawnya, krisbow utk bor. Cukup membantu koq. Kemaren abis bikin lemari baju. Membantu bgt. Cuma masih kurang mesin planner. Abis belum nemu yg murah. Soalnya susah jg motong rapi pake jigsaw. Apalagi kalu lemarinya setinggi 3 meter. Susah lurusnya...

Hehehe...

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y_anjasrana wrote:Kalu powertool branded mahal bgt yak. Ane mah cukup yg murah meriah tapi ga pegel. Kyk fujiyama buat sander n ryota utk jigsawnya, krisbow utk bor. Cukup membantu koq. Kemaren abis bikin lemari baju. Membantu bgt. Cuma masih kurang mesin planner. Abis belum nemu yg murah. Soalnya susah jg motong rapi pake jigsaw. Apalagi kalu lemarinya setinggi 3 meter. Susah lurusnya...

Hehehe...

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sebetulnya bisa bro, klo mau potong sendiri dg rapih pake jigsaw yaitu dg cara dibikin dulu pembatasnya pake kayu, trus jigsawnya tinggal nempelin aja dg pembatas tsb..... jadi rapih deh saat potong kayunya..... :ungg:
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oo... gitu ya.. seperti pakai rel gitu ya? maklum blom pernah pakai sebelumnya. biasanya pakai gergaji biasa. tp krn buat motong yg panjang2, akhirnya beli jigsaw deh. biar ga pegel. :mrgreen:
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sjamsul wrote:
y_anjasrana wrote:Kalu powertool branded mahal bgt yak. Ane mah cukup yg murah meriah tapi ga pegel. Kyk fujiyama buat sander n ryota utk jigsawnya, krisbow utk bor. Cukup membantu koq. Kemaren abis bikin lemari baju. Membantu bgt. Cuma masih kurang mesin planner. Abis belum nemu yg murah. Soalnya susah jg motong rapi pake jigsaw. Apalagi kalu lemarinya setinggi 3 meter. Susah lurusnya...

Hehehe...

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sebetulnya bisa bro, klo mau potong sendiri dg rapih pake jigsaw yaitu dg cara dibikin dulu pembatasnya pake kayu, trus jigsawnya tinggal nempelin aja dg pembatas tsb..... jadi rapih deh saat potong kayunya..... :ungg:
koh... kalo saya motong yg panjang2 sambil merem... dijamin lurus...
:ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

@y_anjasrana : 3meter sih jangan pake jigsaw, oom.... pake circular saw. atau pake gergaji kayu biasa lebih rapih. kalo jigsaw harus biasa pake nya baru rapih... kalo ga biasa, jangankan 3meter ... 1meter saja bisa belok2. hehe!
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poeticmind wrote:
sjamsul wrote:
y_anjasrana wrote:Kalu powertool branded mahal bgt yak. Ane mah cukup yg murah meriah tapi ga pegel. Kyk fujiyama buat sander n ryota utk jigsawnya, krisbow utk bor. Cukup membantu koq. Kemaren abis bikin lemari baju. Membantu bgt. Cuma masih kurang mesin planner. Abis belum nemu yg murah. Soalnya susah jg motong rapi pake jigsaw. Apalagi kalu lemarinya setinggi 3 meter. Susah lurusnya...

Hehehe...

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sebetulnya bisa bro, klo mau potong sendiri dg rapih pake jigsaw yaitu dg cara dibikin dulu pembatasnya pake kayu, trus jigsawnya tinggal nempelin aja dg pembatas tsb..... jadi rapih deh saat potong kayunya..... :ungg:
koh... kalo saya motong yg panjang2 sambil merem... dijamin lurus...
:ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

@y_anjasrana : 3meter sih jangan pake jigsaw, oom.... pake circular saw. atau pake gergaji kayu biasa lebih rapih. kalo jigsaw harus biasa pake nya baru rapih... kalo ga biasa, jangankan 3meter ... 1meter saja bisa belok2. hehe!
Electric-Powertool branded memang mahal, karena segmennya profesional, alias dipake di industri, buat kerja berat secara kontinyu. Salah satu merek branded yg hebat (dan mahal....): SCHEER, FESTOOL dan PROTOOL (dari eropa), kelasnya diatas MAKITA, METABO, DEWALT dsb... Tapi sepertinya belum ada yg masukkin resmi di indonesia, mungkin karena segmennya.
Kalau Pneumatic-Powertool, bisa lebih mahal lagi dan sangat tidak populer dikalangan hobby

Untuk lingkungan home-industri, dipakai kerja kontinyu, yg recommended menurut saya MAKITA dan DEWALT, cukup reliable, affordable dan spare part juga mudah.

Beberapa pabrikan "branded", untuk menyiasati hal ini, mereka keluarkan downgrade-nya (KW)
Salah satu yg saya rekomendasi dipakai buat hobby (rumahan) merknya MAKTEC, ini downgrade-nya MAKITA. Kalau makita warna biru, kalo maktec warna orange. Kelasnya 1-2 tingkat diatas merk-merk macam krisbow, black&decker, modern, fujiyama dsb.

Kalau hobby woodworking, saya bisa kasih saran beberapa alat yg patut dikoleksi buat hobby...secara saya hariannya adalah professional woodworker :big_peace:
1. Mesin Ketam (Planer) -> MAKITA/MAKTEC
2. Mesin Bor -> DEWALT
3. Mesin Amplas -> MAKITA/MAKTEC
4. Mesin Jigsaw -> DEWALT
5. Mesin Router -> MAKTEC
6. Mesin Trimmer -> MAKTEC
7. Stapler/Nailer -> JAWS
8. Mesin Circle SAw -> MAKTEC
9. Spray Gun -> IWATA
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@menner imsus: yg saya pernah lihat polishernya festool, dan nampaknya memang belum masuk disini,, kalaupun masuk, hragnya sangat mahal sepertinya :(
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nescafe wrote:@menner imsus: yg saya pernah lihat polishernya festool, dan nampaknya memang belum masuk disini,, kalaupun masuk, hragnya sangat mahal sepertinya :(
jangankan disini (Indonesia), di Belanda/Jermana aja banyak orang bilang FESTOOL tuh kemahalan :upss:
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nescafe wrote:@menner imsus: yg saya pernah lihat polishernya festool, dan nampaknya memang belum masuk disini,, kalaupun masuk, hragnya sangat mahal sepertinya :(
jangankan disini (Indonesia), di Belanda/Jermana aja banyak orang bilang FESTOOL tuh kemahalan :upss:
spesial dari festool untuk otomotif: http://www.festool.co.uk/artikel/artike ... cfm?id=416

kalau penasaran dgn harganya (kawasan eropa): http://www.festool.co.uk/images/gb_down ... 010_01.pdf
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imsus2c wrote:
nescafe wrote:@menner imsus: yg saya pernah lihat polishernya festool, dan nampaknya memang belum masuk disini,, kalaupun masuk, hragnya sangat mahal sepertinya :(
jangankan disini (Indonesia), di Belanda/Jermana aja banyak orang bilang FESTOOL tuh kemahalan :upss:
jd penasaran saya,,, rasanya bagaimana... :roll:

kapaann yah bisa nyoba... :big_slap:
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Trimmer itu buat apaan ya? Pernah liat barangnya tp ga ngerti buat apaan
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