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Re: Merawat Kekinclongan Cat Mobil & Motor untuk nubie part 02

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wah terima kasih banyak om kios3r informasi cara nyucinya. mantap nih.

ternyata ada alasannya ya pake spons buat nyuci mobilnya, bukan pake paket hemat ala telapak tangan.
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Re: Merawat Kekinclongan Cat Mobil & Motor untuk nubie part 02

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ikbal wrote:tentang MF ada yang pernah pakai MF detailing 3M nggak?
mf 3m yg warna kuning oom? saya pakai koq,, :D cukup baik untuk nge-buff wax setelah diaplikasikan,, :D
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KIOS3R wrote:
DOHC wrote:bro kres bisa coba pake WD-40.... dijamin 100 % ilang.... tapi biasanya abis itu gw lgs mandiin tuh mobil pake sampoo trus di poles lengkap lagi... dan waktu dipakein tuh WD, ga usa di gosok pake tenaga, tapi pake kuku atau beda pipih tumpul laen nya buat korek...
minggu kmaren gw dibantuin bokap gw jg semprot pake wd-40, diemin 2 menit, gosok2 pake klaber nggak ilang uy,,,
kayanya musti pinjem ivory dari pak putik lagi deh,,,
@ nescafe : ilangin compoundhaze slaen pake ipa pake apalg ya?

di clay kaga ngaruh, tp clay gw tambah kotor
Coba dijemur di bawah matahari atau kalau kurang panas di-hairdryer sedikit. Kemudian selagi panas langsung dibersihkan pakai WD40 atau Bug & Tar remover. Aspal lebih gampang leleh / mencair pada suhu tinggi.

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hmm,, pas panas kalo disemprot pake WD40 apa nggak etching ya bos?
tar gw coba pake rubbing compound dl deh, tinggal nyari IPA :big_peace:
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KIOS3R wrote:hmm,, pas panas kalo disemprot pake WD40 apa nggak etching ya bos?
tar gw coba pake rubbing compound dl deh, tinggal nyari IPA :big_peace:
Logikanya aspal = bonded contaminants. Suhu panas bisa membantu ikatannya menjadi lebih lemah. Setelah ikatannya berkurang, bisa di WD40 atau diclay (kalau nggak sayang sama claynya).

Rubbing coumpound apa malah nggak ngikis clearcoat bos? Belum lagi sesudahnya harus difinish pakai non-abrasive seperti scratchx dkk supaya gloss lagi?

Anyway, it's your car, do what you think is best. :) peace..
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hmm,, udah gw coba di clay tp ngga ilang uy,,,
pake ivory aja, digosok disatu spot, emang lama tp berhasil (dulu perna coba jg), sesudahnya tinggal semprot ipa trus pake obat yg lebih rendah cuttingnya,,,

sip gan, gw coba di hairdryer dulu trus semprot pake tar remover dl,, thx ya infonya ^_^ (cara paling aman ni kayanya, hehehe)
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sharing experience... revolusi sy dalam cara mencuci dgn cepat & bersih:

METODE A :
Alat : 1 ember, 3 chamois, sampo, selang air (tanpan nozzle)
1. siram mobil
2. usap dgn sampo yg udah disiapkan di ember. bagian atas pake chamois A, bagian bawah (door-handle) pake chamois B.
3. siram mobil
4. keringkan dgn chamois C

METODE C :
Alat : 1 ember, 2 chamois, 1 microfiber, sampo, selang air (tanpa nozzle)
1. siram mobil
2. usap dgn sampo yg udah disiapkan di ember. bagian atas pake chamois A, bagian bawah (door-handle) pake chamois B.
3. siram mobil
4. keringkan dgn mf

METODE C :
Alat : 1 ember, 2 chamois, 1 microfibe, sampo, selang air (tanpa nozzle)
1. siram mobil, usap lembut dgn telapak tangan.
2. usap dgn sampo yg udah disiapkan di ember. semua bagian dgn mf.
3. siram mobil
4. keringkan dgn chamois C


Kesimpulan :
- metode A gak rekomended krna chamois berpeluang besar menimbulkan swirl
- metode B gak rekomended krna chamois berpeluang besar menimbulkan swirl, dan microfiber tdk bs mengeringkan lbh baik dibanding chamois
- metode C so far yg terbaik. kotoran dirontokkan dgn lembut oleh telapak tangan. disabun dgn minimum resiko oleh mf. dan dikeringkan dgn baik oleh chamois.

sementara itu dulu....
akan mencoba tuk tambah ember penampung air bersih. mo coba juga washmitt tuk sarungi tangan saat mengusap body. juga mo liat performance water magnet.

silahkan dimaki... :)
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wah mantap percobaannya om.

om strong tower, kalo efek kurang bagusnya usap-nyampoo pake MF ada ga om?

dikeringkan lebih baik chamois maksudnya gimana nih om? lebih cepat gitu keringnya apa gimana?
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hmm,, no offence kepada om Strong_Tower
gw perna baca artikel, kalo bersihin mobil (pas apply sampo) itu sebaiknya menggunakan bahan yang bisa "menyerap" partikel kotoran (seperti rambut hewan, microfiber, atau spons yang berporus besar), jadi supaya si kotoran masuk kedalam aplikator dan bukannya nempel dipermukaan aplikator sehingga menimbulkan swirl saat kita dragging aplikator tersebut.

dan soal metode ke2, saya pernah percobaan pake beberapa chamois dengan harga yang berbeda beda, dibandingan dengan MF yang lumayan murah,, ternyata hasilnya jauh lebih baik menggunakan MF drying towel, (bukan MF yang buat buffing yah).

no offence yah bos, hanya ngomong berdasar artikel yang perna gw baca,, mohon jangan tersinggung :big_peace:
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zweifellos wrote:wah mantap percobaannya om.

om strong tower, kalo efek kurang bagusnya usap-nyampoo pake MF ada ga om?
pegel di tangan :D
mf nyerap air & sampo lebih banyak dibanding chamois. jadi lebih berat bawanya.

dikeringkan lebih baik chamois maksudnya gimana nih om? lebih cepat gitu keringnya apa gimana?
yupi dupi. kalo pake mf, saat bener2 kering ternyata ninggalin bekas air, keliatan banget di kaca. kalo pake metode C, chamois tuk ngeringin, maka body yg udah bersih itu akan sangat mudah dikeringkan dgn chamois. walo tetep ada lapisan tipis air, tapi sangat minimal, dan saat bener2 kering, keliatan bener2 bersih euy.
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oom kios3r

memang mengharapkan masukan kok. silahkan diperbanya :)
btw, saat ini sy dah lakukan apply sampo dgn mf, gak pake chamois. (chek metode C)
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Strong_Tower wrote:oom kios3r

memang mengharapkan masukan kok. silahkan diperbanya :)
btw, saat ini sy dah lakukan apply sampo dgn mf, gak pake chamois. (chek metode C)
waa maap, ga kebaca apply shampoonya :off_good_job:

sbenernya masalah drying sih preference masing masing yah,, ada yg suka pake chamois, ada yg suka pake ini, itu, bebas aja, toh mobil yang dicuci dengan benar kan harusnya nggak ada kotoran lagi, jadi dikeringin pake apapun mustinya sebelas duabelas.
saya aja nekat skr ngeringin mobil pake squeegee, baru finishing pake drying towel, :big_slap:

oh ya om, kalo pas lagi maen ke acehardware, coba cari MF drying towel merk zwipes, atau meguiars watermagnet, yang lebih bagus lagi punya pakshaq tapi gatau beli dimana :frm_bang_head:
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punyanya pak shaquile o'neal? ok, mencoba mencari :D

yg jelas di hypermart gak ada, di superhome gak ada.
memang berencana nyari ke ace, tapi belum sempet.
sekalian bandingin beberapa washmitt.
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washmitt yang udah dapet nama bagus punya megs, eurow, sama mothers, tapi ya itu, di ace ga ada, yg paling gampang didapet megs punya karena megs punya cabang dimana mana...

kl g salah pakshaq di daerah gunung sahari ada, tp entah dimananya,,, nescafeee minta info donksss,,,
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Strong_Tower wrote:oom kios3r

memang mengharapkan masukan kok. silahkan diperbanya :)
btw, saat ini sy dah lakukan apply sampo dgn mf, gak pake chamois. (chek metode C)
Kasi masukkan tambahan ya:

1. Nggak perlu pakai tangan kecuali untuk bagian2 sulit dijangkau. Langsung di washmitt MF saja.
2. Pakai metode 2 ember + gritguard. Atau kalau air kencang + berlimpah, semprot washmitt sebelum masuk ke ember sabun.
3. Supaya tdk muncul waterspot, bilasan terakhir pakai air minum destilasi (beli galonan di supermarket, ex. Amid**.
4. Pengeringan pakai drying MF towel, teknik blotting.

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o iya, ada info yg kececer. yg sy lakuin di atas adalah untuk keperluan quick-washing. waktu yg tersedia hanya 30-45 menit.
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untuk quick washing, coba beli 2 washmitt, 1 mf, 1 squeegee blade.

semprot mobil sampe basah, apply shampoo pake washmitt A buat bagian atas (gak terlalu kotor) dan washmitt B untuk yang lebih kotor (bagian bawah), kalo nyuci gak kena sinar matahari sih hajar aja 1 body, lgs bilas lagi.

keringin pake squeegee blade, baru finishing pake mf.

yakin cepet bgt om :big_peace:
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squeegee blade tuh apa ya? bisa dijemput dmana? thx
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teknik blotting itu maksudnya apa ya om?
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blotting tuh maksudnya cm nempel nempelin aplikator ke tujuan aja, misalnya applikator kita chamois, tujuan kita body mobil, jadi cuma nempel nempelin chamois ke body mobil supaya nyerep sebagian air.
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Absen di sini,baca penjelasan master marmur :D
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jiahh, gw mah masi nubie om, boro boro master,,,, :big_slap:
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KIOS3R wrote:jiahh, gw mah masi nubie om, boro boro master,,,, :big_slap:
Dewa Poles, kemana aja ente? Kongkow2 lagi lah kita... :mrgreen:

OOT dikit, kres, buat nyelametin jok kulit coklat muda yang udah butek langkah2nya gimana? kayaknya dulu di tret apa pernah di kasih sih tapi pengen dengerin saran master.. :mrgreen:
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hayo jay kita kongkow lagi sama pak putik sama steroid sama che, hehehe
hmm,, coba lo beli leather cleaner dulu, bersihin, abis itu apply leather conditioner, ada product all in one juga, silakan disesuaikan dengan kebutuhan :big_peace:
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