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sekeder tips..

1. usahakan selalu merawat aki, kalo perlu dikasi vitamin aki biar lbh awet. kalo udah mulai gejala susah start sebaiknya segera siap2 untuk ganti aki mengingat kalo dah tekor mbl matic gak bs distart dorong. Saya setuju jika kabel jumper jg selalu stby di mobil.
2. untuk tindakan preventif, jangan lupa cek kampas rem nya ya pak....tipikal mobil matic umumnya kampas remnya lbh cepat habis, apalagi jika pemilik sebelumnya lbh sering gas-rem-gas-rem dan jarang melakukan shift down untuk membantu efek engine brake.

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jalu wrote:sekeder tips..
2. untuk tindakan preventif, jangan lupa cek kampas rem nya ya pak....tipikal mobil matic umumnya kampas remnya lbh cepat habis, apalagi jika pemilik sebelumnya lbh sering gas-rem-gas-rem dan jarang melakukan shift down untuk membantu efek engine brake.
semoga membantu...
thank you infonya Pak,
msh sdkt bingung ama poin no.2....kalau matic gimana shift down nya ya?
misalnya lg jalan 60km/jam, posisi di d-3 gitu, apa bisa lsg dioper ke 2 atau L ya?
ada yg bilang bisa rontok

atau dinyalain terus O/D nya ya? apa efeknya ya?
- lebih boros/ irit,
- lebih cepat rusak mesin
penah pake panther matic lain, kondisi O/D off, jalan 90km/jam udah ngga oper lagi giginya, digenjot ampe 100km/jam rpm menggerung diatas 4000rpm. begitu ditekan tombol o/d lsg enak.....aneh ya? mestinya kalo pas O/D off kan malah gigi ngoper2 sendiri lebih cepat ya?
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O/D off itu cuma membatasi topgear s/d gigi-3.
matic di-limit topgearnya dari tuas gapapa, bisa rusak kalo putaran mesin tidak ideal / terlalu tinggi.
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thank you om GTR...kalo gitu di on kan terus O/Dnya juga gpp ya
rencana sih biar di on terus, serasa manual gitu tarikannya hehe....
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on terus gapapa, cuma kalo berat saat mendaki / butuh repson instan seperti saat lewatin kendaraan lain, boleh di-off kan untuk downshift / cegah nyangkut ke gigi-4,
karena sebagian matic sering "doyan & betah" di topgear / gigi-4.
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nah pakarnya dah muncul nih..... :frm_salut:

nambahin aja, untuk penggunaan harian lbh baik on terus, sehingga pengendaraan lbh smooth dan efisiensi bbm lbh baik. CMIIW
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ooo gitu, terima kasih infonya
tadinya saya kira kalo o/d on itu justru yg menahan rpm spy over normal, jadi tarikan lbh spontan dan lama, malah kebalik ya..hehe
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supergiant wrote:Wah responnya banyak bgt en tepat sasaran di hati nih rekan2,
akhirnya diputuskan ambil yang Ispan Matic deh dengan pertimbangan:
- saran dari rekan2 soal mesin, bodi part dll
- tahu dgn jelas pemakai sebelumnya, dan servis track record selalu di astra isuzu sampai skrg
- kuda bekas org, ga tahu perawatannyas ampai dimana, stiker timing belt aja ga ada. kemarin cek timing belt kuda 2 pcs = 1,75jt dan glow plug 175b/pcs (total 700rb)....jadi itungannya abis ambil kuda lsg harus mau ganti supaya aman dipake nyonyah
- kalo panther mah saya sdh pake dari 1993 jadi tahu persis selanya, walau mesti adaptasi ama yg matic
- bengkel kenalan jg advis, kalo ambil kuda mesti yg tahu jelas pemiliknya, kalo ispan mah dia bilang dia bisa beresin apapun masalahnya...(hehe sombong juga nih bengkel, tapi emang bagus sih..hehe murah lagi)

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jalu wrote:sekeder tips..

1. usahakan selalu merawat aki, kalo perlu dikasi vitamin aki biar lbh awet. kalo udah mulai gejala susah start sebaiknya segera siap2 untuk ganti aki mengingat kalo dah tekor mbl matic gak bs distart dorong. Saya setuju jika kabel jumper jg selalu stby di mobil.
2. untuk tindakan preventif, jangan lupa cek kampas rem nya ya pak....tipikal mobil matic umumnya kampas remnya lbh cepat habis, apalagi jika pemilik sebelumnya lbh sering gas-rem-gas-rem dan jarang melakukan shift down untuk membantu efek engine brake.

semoga membantu...
aki mah setau ane di panther lumayan awet tuh, scara kalo mesin uda nyala, aki nya nyaris ga kepake gt buat mesin, plg cuman buat audio atau lampu2 dll nya....
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kalo aki di panther lumayan awet berarti good news buat TS..... :e-dance:
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hehe iya asik nih....emang aki panther awet kok......
ini kan pake LS 01 manual, beberapa fact:
- aki bisa tahan 4 tahun lebih
- solar krn ga sering macet, average 13km/ ltr
- ga rewel sama sekali, tinggal ganti filter2 doang, en setahun sekali stel klep
- biasanya hal remeh yg menjengkelkan itu laher roda kalo pas oblak di jalan tanpa tanda2, padahal kalo ganti harganya ga sampai 100rb kali
- yg mayan jengkelin lagi power window sering macet, dah diserpis ga sampai 2 minggu juga seret lagi, susah naik turun...sampai capek servisnya.

dah itu aja, overall sih banyak enaknya daripada ga enaknya nih panther.......
hehe bakalan jadi punya 2 panther kapsul nih..hehehe....
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hehehe... emang panther itu nyenengin koq.... btw ane lagi cari2 panther kapsul, uda beberapa showroom ane jambangin, poskota ama kompas jg uda di ubek2.. kayanya masi rada susah yah ketemu yg masi bagus.... kondisi sigh sebenernya ga bagus2 amat jg gpp tapi kadang kasi harga nya kaya kaga pake otak lagi... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
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supergiant wrote:hehe iya asik nih....emang aki panther awet kok......
ini kan pake LS 01 manual, beberapa fact:
- aki bisa tahan 4 tahun lebih
- solar krn ga sering macet, average 13km/ ltr
- ga rewel sama sekali, tinggal ganti filter2 doang, en setahun sekali stel klep
- biasanya hal remeh yg menjengkelkan itu laher roda kalo pas oblak di jalan tanpa tanda2, padahal kalo ganti harganya ga sampai 100rb kali
- yg mayan jengkelin lagi power window sering macet, dah diserpis ga sampai 2 minggu juga seret lagi, susah naik turun...sampai capek servisnya.

dah itu aja, overall sih banyak enaknya daripada ga enaknya nih panther.......
hehe bakalan jadi punya 2 panther kapsul nih..hehehe....
udah coba bersihin karet railing jendela? biasanya kalo kotor emang gampang seret. bersihin pake cairan pembersih karet/interior gitu. kalo ternyata karetnya sudah parah, ganti karet railing aja.. cmiiw..
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DOHC wrote:hehehe... emang panther itu nyenengin koq.... btw ane lagi cari2 panther kapsul, uda beberapa showroom ane jambangin, poskota ama kompas jg uda di ubek2.. kayanya masi rada susah yah ketemu yg masi bagus.... kondisi sigh sebenernya ga bagus2 amat jg gpp tapi kadang kasi harga nya kaya kaga pake otak lagi... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
mungkin karena harga panther baru sudah jauh lebih mahal, sehingga peminat unit sekenya meningkat, akhirnya harga pasarannya jadi kagak wajar lagi....
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mungkin jg seh bro... nanti mo coba ke astra isuzu yg di buncit... denger2 kayanya disana kaya mobil 88 nya isuzu gt...
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DOHC wrote:hehehe... emang panther itu nyenengin koq.... btw ane lagi cari2 panther kapsul, uda beberapa showroom ane jambangin, poskota ama kompas jg uda di ubek2.. kayanya masi rada susah yah ketemu yg masi bagus.... kondisi sigh sebenernya ga bagus2 amat jg gpp tapi kadang kasi harga nya kaya kaga pake otak lagi... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
ya iya lah... kasih harga kan pake angka... moso pake otak... :big_weee:
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maskopat wrote:
DOHC wrote:hehehe... emang panther itu nyenengin koq.... btw ane lagi cari2 panther kapsul, uda beberapa showroom ane jambangin, poskota ama kompas jg uda di ubek2.. kayanya masi rada susah yah ketemu yg masi bagus.... kondisi sigh sebenernya ga bagus2 amat jg gpp tapi kadang kasi harga nya kaya kaga pake otak lagi... :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
ya iya lah... kasih harga kan pake angka... moso pake otak... :big_weee:
tapi kan ntuh angka jg kluar stelah melalu proses itung2, pertimbangan, dan rumus2 lain nya... dan smua itu dikerjakan di otak kan om.... :big_weee: :big_weee:




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maskopat wrote:
udah coba bersihin karet railing jendela? biasanya kalo kotor emang gampang seret. bersihin pake cairan pembersih karet/interior gitu. kalo ternyata karetnya sudah parah, ganti karet railing aja.. cmiiw..
ok bos, segera dicoba..
o iya satu lagi yg jengkelin, karet pintu, kan model kapsul udah ga pake talang air.
nah 6 bln lalu karet getas, jadi air masuk dr 2 pintu depan. akhirnya kuganti karet ori set untuk 4 pintu, eh malah 4-4 nya rembes/ bocor. udah pergi ke astra isuzu, bengkel bodi, berkali2 setel pintu juga tetap bocor. sampai skrg jg ga ada solusi sih.
kali ada yg bisa advis tips yg jitu gitu.

thank you ya

PS: untuk harga emang sekrg ngawur semua..info aja ini ada temannya teman jual panther kapsul lv 2001, di sby, kondisi super istimewa cat ori 100%, km 120rb, warna biru tua, mintanya mahal 105jt no nego. barang antik sih, kemarin sempat mau dibeli cuman kok variasi dikit bgt, ga ada ac double, jendela engkol, seat belt molor tanpa per....hehe ga jadi deh...kalo ada yg minat bisa kukenalin....
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Wew, brarti harga panther naek ya kyk nya?
Kalo gitu saatnya jual panther gw neh.. :e-dance:
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pak..karet yg diganti itu apakah yg menempel di pintu (weather strip) atau yang menempel di bingkai pintu ? :ungg:
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supergiant wrote:
maskopat wrote:
udah coba bersihin karet railing jendela? biasanya kalo kotor emang gampang seret. bersihin pake cairan pembersih karet/interior gitu. kalo ternyata karetnya sudah parah, ganti karet railing aja.. cmiiw..
ok bos, segera dicoba..
o iya satu lagi yg jengkelin, karet pintu, kan model kapsul udah ga pake talang air.
nah 6 bln lalu karet getas, jadi air masuk dr 2 pintu depan. akhirnya kuganti karet ori set untuk 4 pintu, eh malah 4-4 nya rembes/ bocor. udah pergi ke astra isuzu, bengkel bodi, berkali2 setel pintu juga tetap bocor. sampai skrg jg ga ada solusi sih.
kali ada yg bisa advis tips yg jitu gitu.

thank you ya
ini karet pintu ya? coba cari tahu rembesnya di mana.. pake air kopi atau air berwarna aja biar kelihatan rembesannya di mana. trus, coba diperhatikan, apakah di bagian rembes itu ada frame yang bengkok atau catnya udah retak..

itu ispannya bukan karoseri kan? tapi rakitan astra?
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jalu wrote:pak..karet yg diganti itu apakah yg menempel di pintu (weather strip) atau yang menempel di bingkai pintu ? :ungg:
itu karetnya yg nempel di pintu pak.....
@maskopat: panther kapsul ls 01 pak....bodi ga pernah ngecat masih ori....
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lalu bagamana dengan bingkai pintunya...apakah ada karetnya juga ?? (umunya karet model balon)
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bingkai pintu maksudnya yg di bodi ya?
ada karet model anyaman
kalo karet balon itu yg di pintu nya.........
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karet yang nempel di pintu itu maksudnya yang kecil itu bukan ya? yang kalo pintu ketutup dari luar keliatan karetnya???? kalo gk salah panjang karetnya cuman di sepanjang pintu bagian atas sampai spion aja ya? yang itu bukan ya??? maap kalo salah.